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Post by MJLover1990 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:57 pm

Okay I'm having a little weird moment here I'm actually crying because reading stuff like Janet talking about Michael and Dr. Murray going to court and being on the live stream on TMZ and stuff like that makes me always think he's not here anymore BUT HE IS, I know that and I will never give up the hope I know Michael is alive but why do all these people play with us heads! So lost and confused right now! Icon_sad
I know everyone has their ups and downs regarding the hoax and all and I'm having a little down now I can't see or think straight at this moment, it's all so vague and foggy once the fog cleared up I know I will see straight again but I hate feeling like this while I know Michael is alive!
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn on Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:01 pm

Keep the faith! Go back to the thread bout Janet talking bout Murray. A member jus caught miss Janet in a big lie! First she said when mike died she was in her home in New York but earlier articles state she was working on a movie in Atlanta! Big inconsistency!
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Post by KNOWhesALIVE on Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:01 pm

As i wrote on another tropic...
As long Janet didn't say DEAD, MURDER, KILLED, there is hope...
And Michael is no longer!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????? WHAT....

GIRL keep ypur hopes high... Very high... Hes still here So lost and confused right now! Icon_cheers
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Post by MJLover1990 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:07 pm

Thank you guys! *hugs*
I know Michael is alive, I'm just having a little down moment right now that all I'll get over it haha So lost and confused right now! Icon_smile

I just read that about Janet she is definitely lying!
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Post by StripedFeline on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:16 pm

The truth will prevail, it's just a matter of patience. Smile I know most people on this forum have their 'up and down' days (I know I do!) about the whole hoax, but the only thing that is going to get us through this whole big maze Michael has laid out for us is positivity and the ability to think with an open-mind. Remember, anything is possible if you put your mind to it. Smile Life knows no boundaries!
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Post by LiberianGirl on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:20 pm

I felt the same after I read Janet's interview. I totally get you girl. Let's have a GROUP HUG guys BIG BIG HUGS to YOU ALL BELIEVERS flower
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Post by MJLover1990 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:28 pm

LiberianGirl wrote:I felt the same after I read Janet's interview. I totally get you girl. Let's have a GROUP HUG guys BIG BIG HUGS to YOU ALL BELIEVERS So lost and confused right now! Icon_flower

Aw thanks hon, BIG GROUP HUG EVERYONE! So lost and confused right now! Abchug
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Post by billiejean17 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:40 pm

MJLover1990 wrote:Okay I'm having a little weird moment here I'm actually crying because reading stuff like Janet talking about Michael and Dr. Murray going to court and being on the live stream on TMZ and stuff like that makes me always think he's not here anymore BUT HE IS, I know that and I will never give up the hope I know Michael is alive but why do all these people play with us heads! So lost and confused right now! Icon_sad
I know everyone has their ups and downs regarding the hoax and all and I'm having a little down now I can't see or think straight at this moment, it's all so vague and foggy once the fog cleared up I know I will see straight again but I hate feeling like this while I know Michael is alive!
I am having down moments too, you are not alone... ((Hugs ))
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Post by icy55 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:44 pm

MJLover1990 wrote:
LiberianGirl wrote:I felt the same after I read Janet's interview. I totally get you girl. Let's have a GROUP HUG guys BIG BIG HUGS to YOU ALL BELIEVERS So lost and confused right now! Icon_flower

Aw thanks hon, BIG GROUP HUG EVERYONE! So lost and confused right now! Abchug


awwww! I love your group hug!
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Post by ishealive on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:47 pm

We knew Janet would talk it was only a matter of time and she wasn't going to come out and say MJ is alive.
Murray is in court for something very small compared to murder and imo it's just to keep him in the news, I don't believe Murray killed anyone. I think he's all part of this he's part of the plot, we'll find out in due course. It's just a waiting game and I think we'll see alot in the months to come.
Also Murray releasing that video a few months ago was of course strange but he also said the truth would prevail, imo he didn't come across like a killer. Murray imo is nothing more than a character in all of this.
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Post by SearchingForTruths on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:50 pm

L.O.V.E. right guys? So lost and confused right now! Icon_razz
Keep the FAIT
The TROOT will prevail
and all that stuff XD
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Post by MJsAngelEyes1987 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:59 pm

Just continue to KEEP THE FAITH as much as you can everyone!!!!
That's what MJ wants us to do.
The truth will prevail as always! Don't give up. Smile
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Post by mumof3 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:12 pm

we have to keep going things dont add up i have bags under my eyes it is not a good look keep going we have to stick together
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Post by me0101 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:18 pm

It's good that we are a close group with like minds. Because when one has doubts and frustrations (and we all do from time to time. It can all be so overwhelming) and needs an e-hug we are there for comfort and support as we all continue to search for the truth. So lost and confused right now! Icon_smile
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Post by hesouttamylife on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:31 pm

http://blogs.ajc.com/peachbuzz/2009/06/26/tyler-perry-on-jackson-give-the-family-room-to-breath/


According to this report, Janet was on her way to Atlanta, on the plane, not in her home as stated. At least that's what I get from reading this. However, this is also a contradiction from what was earlier reported. I wish I could find the e-mail.
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Post by hesouttamylife on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:55 pm

There's some speculation behind the places being changed, but I won't go into that. That's another hoax of a different color.
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Post by hesouttamylife on Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:02 pm

I cannot believe that after all these years of Michael fans being called crazy lunatics, there are people who still believe they can tell us anything. Don't they know that when it comes to Michael, we will fight to the bloody end Twisted Evil And if you said it.....We WILL remember it. Don't get it twisted!!!!!
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Post by YouAreMyLifeMJ on Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:25 pm

MJLover1990 wrote:Okay I'm having a little weird moment here I'm actually crying because reading stuff like Janet talking about Michael and Dr. Murray going to court and being on the live stream on TMZ and stuff like that makes me always think he's not here anymore BUT HE IS, I know that and I will never give up the hope I know Michael is alive but why do all these people play with us heads! So lost and confused right now! Icon_sad
I know everyone has their ups and downs regarding the hoax and all and I'm having a little down now I can't see or think straight at this moment, it's all so vague and foggy once the fog cleared up I know I will see straight again but I hate feeling like this while I know Michael is alive!

I know how you feel. Sometimes I just cry...I don't really know why, because I know he is alive! It's just a weird thing. When I feel that way I just think of all the things that point to him being alive. But sometimes...you just gotta cry. It makes me feel better. Keep the faith! The truth WILL prevail. So lost and confused right now! Icon_smile
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Post by MJLover1990 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:26 pm

You are absolutely right guys! So lost and confused right now! Icon_biggrin
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Post by wandulka on Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:32 pm

Just KEEP THE FAITH and don't let anything take you down....
We all have ups and downs, but nobody is more alive than Michael.. So lost and confused right now! Icon_king
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Post by hesouttamylife on Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:39 pm

I feel shaken. I'm starting to feel uneasy and afraid. I think something really terrible might have happened. Please go to the thread, A must read even if we don't believe. I just read it and it is frightening to think about what the thought of losing 1.2 billion dollars must have meant to somebody with a lot of power Sad
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Post by YouAreMyLifeMJ on Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:59 pm


I also want to point a few things out. How, if he was so sickly, like some people
said...did he pass a 4 hour physical? Also, the man who made the 911
call has the same last name as Murray's girlfriend. (Alvarez) And do you guys remember
Ed Winter? He was the one who announced the autopsy report.

This is a picture of him: http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09Y3aWE2wLcsS/610x.jpg

Then there is Kevin Winter. (sound familiar?) He basically owns Getty
Images. Guess who took the pictures at MJ's rehearsal, Memorial, and
Funeral? Getty Images. Now is it just me, or do Kevin and Ed look a tad
bit alike, not to mention have the same last name?

Here's Kevin's picture on myspace: http://www.myspace.com/kwinterphotography
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Post by darkchild on Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:23 pm

Don't give up on MJ! He is still here with us! So lost and confused right now! Icon_biggrin
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Post by hesouttamylife on Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:33 pm

After reading this article again, with a little more calm this could be a positive thing. It's almost like playing the game of Clue. I will be colonel mustard, lol or maybe the candlestick. Yeah. I'm gonna think of it in that way instead of the darker, more sinister version. These are the clues, or the could have beens. Nothing more. Nothing less. I am going to drive myself completely insane it seems.
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Post by mjgirl86 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:43 pm

YouAreMyLifeMJ wrote:
I also want to point a few things out. How, if he was so sickly, like some people
said...did he pass a 4 hour physical? Also, the man who made the 911
call has the same last name as Murray's girlfriend. (Alvarez) And do you guys remember
Ed Winter? He was the one who announced the autopsy report.

This is a picture of him: http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09Y3aWE2wLcsS/610x.jpg

Then there is Kevin Winter. (sound familiar?) He basically owns Getty
Images. Guess who took the pictures at MJ's rehearsal, Memorial, and
Funeral? Getty Images. Now is it just me, or do Kevin and Ed look a tad
bit alike, not to mention have the same last name?

Here's Kevin's picture on myspace: http://www.myspace.com/kwinterphotography

Omg...........

there is so much going on , and so much happening! WTF, we need some answers, man.. people kept saying different things, about Michael's health. Oh, he's not in good condition- no, he's fine!

And the last name coincidence is interesting... Alvarez... I didn't know that.. hmm, makes you wonder.
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Post by michkez2 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:44 pm

janet speaking is having the desired effect on everyone which the jackson family want. they want us to believe mj passed. we must remember all the inconsistencies. too many things dont add up. keep the faith x
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Post by mjgirl86 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:46 pm

But.... isn't it, they want the MEDIA to believe Michael passed?.. that's the main thing, right?

Because there's too many clues, left for us fans, etc. WE are supposed to know. But the public eye, and media needs to remain fooled.
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Post by YouAreMyLifeMJ on Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:49 pm

mjgirl86 wrote:
YouAreMyLifeMJ wrote:
I also want to point a few things out. How, if he was so sickly, like some people
said...did he pass a 4 hour physical? Also, the man who made the 911
call has the same last name as Murray's girlfriend. (Alvarez) And do you guys remember
Ed Winter? He was the one who announced the autopsy report.

This is a picture of him: http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09Y3aWE2wLcsS/610x.jpg

Then there is Kevin Winter. (sound familiar?) He basically owns Getty
Images. Guess who took the pictures at MJ's rehearsal, Memorial, and
Funeral? Getty Images. Now is it just me, or do Kevin and Ed look a tad
bit alike, not to mention have the same last name?

Here's Kevin's picture on myspace: http://www.myspace.com/kwinterphotography

Omg...........

there is so much going on , and so much happening! WTF, we need some answers, man.. people kept saying different things, about Michael's health. Oh, he's not in good condition- no, he's fine!

And the last name coincidence is interesting... Alvarez... I didn't know that.. hmm, makes you wonder.

Yes, His girlfriend's name is Nichole Alvarez. And Idk what the 911 caller's 1st name is but you can look it up. I was gonna make a post about this but I still can't figure out how to... lol
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Post by tinker_bell on Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:05 pm

[quote="YouAreMyLifeMJ"][quote="mjgirl86"]
YouAreMyLifeMJ wrote:
I also want to point a few things out. How, if he was so sickly, like some people
said...did he pass a 4 hour physical? Also, the man who made the 911
call has the same last name as Murray's girlfriend. (Alvarez) And do you guys remember
Ed Winter? He was the one who announced the autopsy report.

This is a picture of him: http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09Y3aWE2wLcsS/610x.jpg

Then there is Kevin Winter. (sound familiar?) He basically owns Getty
Images. Guess who took the pictures at MJ's rehearsal, Memorial, and
Funeral? Getty Images. Now is it just me, or do Kevin and Ed look a tad
bit alike, not to mention have the same last name?

Here's Kevin's picture on myspace: http://www.myspace.com/kwinterphotography

Now that's just crazy... This Kevin guy lives in Jacksonville-Florida. I remember posting here something i found funny about this place in relation to TII:

https://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-things-f8/just-funny-t3652.htm

what a nutcase, i need a shower =))
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Post by JustJamiee on Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:53 pm

YouAreMyLifeMJ wrote:
I also want to point a few things out. How, if he was so sickly, like some people
said...did he pass a 4 hour physical? Also, the man who made the 911
call has the same last name as Murray's girlfriend. (Alvarez) And do you guys remember
Ed Winter? He was the one who announced the autopsy report.

This is a picture of him: http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09Y3aWE2wLcsS/610x.jpg

Then there is Kevin Winter. (sound familiar?) He basically owns Getty
Images. Guess who took the pictures at MJ's rehearsal, Memorial, and
Funeral? Getty Images. Now is it just me, or do Kevin and Ed look a tad
bit alike, not to mention have the same last name?

Here's Kevin's picture on myspace: http://www.myspace.com/kwinterphotography


WOW!!!! Those are some GREAT points!!!!!
This is kinda off topic, but unfortunatley curiosity has
gotten the best of me.
But i've never heard of a 4 HOUR physical..
like wtf do you do for 4 HOURS in the doctors office? lol
Theres only so much you can do with your clothes on when it comes
to physicals and stuff like that..
4 hours???
If a PHYSICAL lasts for 4 hours that would make
me think something was wrong.. Neutral
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Post by MJLover1990 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:14 am

darkchild wrote:Don't give up on MJ! He is still here with us! So lost and confused right now! Icon_biggrin

Oh I will never give up on him, I'm always here for him! So lost and confused right now! Icon_biggrin
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Post by MJmylife90 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:25 am

hey guys, i hope this is helping...
another hoaxer just investigate about alvarez too...

here's it is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8Nu0mTjPqE

i hope it can hep you guys... Idea
sorry for bad language...


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Post by Léa on Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:16 am

mjgirl86 wrote:But.... isn't it, they want the MEDIA to believe Michael passed?.. that's the main thing, right?

Because there's too many clues, left for us fans, etc. WE are supposed to know. But the public eye, and media needs to remain fooled.

I agree with you...
MJ wants us to know? he wants to trick the medias, not us.
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