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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:30 pm

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Post by annieisnotokey on Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:33 pm

This is insane. affraid
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:36 pm



He can do a BY-Pass operation, but he dosent know how to do CPR?
Comeon now.

Are you kidding lol!
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Post by annieisnotokey on Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:47 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
He can do a BY-Pass operation, but he dosent know how to do CPR?

And Dr. Murray is an Interventional Cardiologist, not a Cardiovascular Surgeon, so he couldn't have performed a bypass surgery. He's not qualified to do so.
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:51 pm

So ... Dr. Murray is a Replacement Heart Doctor but Can't Do Any Surgery of Cardiovascular Kind .... K.... that is strange ...
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:05 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:
He can do a BY-Pass operation, but he dosent know how to do CPR?

And Dr. Murray is an Interventional Cardiologist, not a Cardiovascular Surgeon, so he couldn't have performed a bypass surgery. He's not qualified to do so.


I know, thats why I consider this to be a Joke
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Post by annieisnotokey on Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:22 pm

EarthAngel90 wrote:So ... Dr. Murray is a Replacement Heart Doctor but Can't Do Any Surgery of Cardiovascular Kind .... K.... that is strange ...

Dr. Murray is an Interventional Cardiologist.

"After Loma Linda Medical Center, he attended the University of Arizona
for his Cardiology Fellowship training. Dr. Murray later went into his
sub-specialty training at University of San Diego and Sharp Healthcare
in San Diego, California. There, Dr. Murray was under the guidance of
renowned Interventional Cardiologist, Professor Maurice Buchbinder,
M.D., with whom he spent 3 years following his training as the
associate director for the interventional cardiology
fellowship-training program at Sharp Memorial Hospital San Diego."
http://houstoncriminallaw-pressroom.com/biographical-information-%E2%80%93-dr-conrad-murray/

Interventional Cardiologists don't perform bypass surgery.
http://www.brighamandwomens.org/cvcenter/Patient/FAQ/FAQinterventional.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interventional_cardiology
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:39 pm

Very interesting...once again, things that make you go hmmmm!!!! Question
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Post by mjthelegendlives on Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:39 pm

LOL maybe I should ask my doctor to get a list of all his patients' phone numbers, and medical information....for the love of Jesus, Who does this? and why would the lawyers put up so much information about his patients...like the people would be interested...oh wait i forgot! the conspiracy theorists are out there and they are asking if this is a real doctor! yes, lets give them some info on his patients...hmm
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Post by Banessa on Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:46 pm

Okay! Seriously, certainly being lawyers they should be aware of a certain thing call "Patient/client Confidentiality" aka HIPPA! These are the worst lawyers and the worst Doctor I have ever seen or known about!

If I ever need a lawyer or a freaking Doctor I know who not to call! LOL
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Post by Grace on Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:16 pm

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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:22 pm

Grace wrote:Did anybody of us try to call one of the persons on the lawyer's list?
I guess the phone #s (if not the given persons) are fake or have been interrupted already.

If they were real:
publishing personal data does need written agreement of the person.
Hence even with this it may violate private data protection laws.

I wished to have Tenderoni from MJHD here who is apparently working in law business.
Is Texas law (and by the way international internet law) not prohibiting a publication like this? And is there not some medical related private data protection law in place?

In my opinion, these lawyers already reach for the ceiling of what they potentially could do for Murray to undertake shady efforts like this in the beginning when neither arrest nor accusal is formal.
Again: they are specializing in drug abuse matters, not in murder. There's something more important behind this story.

See, i'm not to concerned with the whole patient condientiality thing but WHY on earth would anyone want their name and telephone number/email address associated with the man who might be charged with killing the King of Pop? As if I'd want crazed MJ fans calling and emailing me! Something is so wrong!
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Post by Banessa on Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:40 pm

Give.In.To.Me wrote:
Grace wrote:Did anybody of us try to call one of the persons on the lawyer's list?
I guess the phone #s (if not the given persons) are fake or have been interrupted already.

If they were real:
publishing personal data does need written agreement of the person.
Hence even with this it may violate private data protection laws.

I wished to have Tenderoni from MJHD here who is apparently working in law business.
Is Texas law (and by the way international internet law) not prohibiting a publication like this? And is there not some medical related private data protection law in place?

In my opinion, these lawyers already reach for the ceiling of what they potentially could do for Murray to undertake shady efforts like this in the beginning when neither arrest nor accusal is formal.
Again: they are specializing in drug abuse matters, not in murder. There's something more important behind this story.

See, i'm not to concerned with the whole patient condientiality thing but WHY on earth would anyone want their name and telephone number/email address associated with the man who might be charged with killing the King of Pop? As if I'd want crazed MJ fans calling and emailing me! Something is so wrong!


Lol I see what you are saying now! I understand!
Very Happy A lot of MJ fans will go to the extreme and could potentially start harassing the people whose info. is provided. I sure wouldn't want that! I don't think that I would sign a consent allowing these wacko lawyers to display my info on their page as having been or possibly still be involved With Dr. Propofol Very Happy
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Post by silvy on Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:22 am

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Post by Human_nature on Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:26 am


Created on: 02-Jul-09

okay ... Shocked lol!
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Post by mjthelegendlives on Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:31 am

Please do not publish the web address of this press room to the general public. We do not want to publicly distribute the names and numbers of Dr. Murray’s patients and friends who have so kindly offered to speak for him. Thanks for your consideration.

@ Human_nature...what are your thoughts? lol
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:40 am

mjthelegendlives wrote:Please do not publish the web address of this press room to the general public. We do not want to publicly distribute the names and numbers of Dr. Murray’s patients and friends who have so kindly offered to speak for him. Thanks for your consideration.

@ Human_nature...what are your thoughts? lol

I think..I will die..laughing lol! lol! lol!
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Post by mjthelegendlives on Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:44 am

yeah me too. I was like why in the heck they would ask ppl not to publish the names of Murray's patients, when they have already published them nothing less than in the Internet lol...

you can see the message when you click on the "Latest news" tab.
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:53 am

mjthelegendlives wrote:yeah me too. I was like why in the heck they would ask ppl not to publish the names of Murray's patients, when they have already published them nothing less than in the Internet lol...

you can see the message when you click on the "Latest news" tab.

yes I saw... Really ..I saw stupid things in my life, but now...it's more than stupid.
If they are not fake...gosh ...Murray is really in real deep *bip* clown clown
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Post by Grace on Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:51 am

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Post by kdkennedy74 on Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:04 am

Am I incorrect in my reading? From what I can tell it looks as though this firm is only licensed for TX but if the crimes were committed in CA and the "charges" are coming from CA, wouldn't he need a CA licensed attorney?

http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/CM/Custom/TOCPracticeAreaDescriptions.html
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:22 am

Also check this out.

www.healthgrades.com/.../Dr-Conrad-Murray-MD-2E1459BD.cfm

This is the only place that I can find Dr. Murray's name listed and to get the report you have to pay for it.

Now look at this one.

http://www.insiderpages.com/s/TX/Houston/Cardiologists?order=alpha&page=40&radius=50

I have done a search in alpha order and this will start page 40 but if you go back to page 39 you will see that Dr. Conrad Murray is listed nowhere on this site.

I had no doubt that he was truly a doctor until this point!!!
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Post by silvy on Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:56 am

Its a fake page.If it was real, its illegal to put on personal information of patients with name and phonenumber.If you see a page like this and you dont trust the info on the page or your own common sense.Check the Whois. Don't take anything for the truth
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:03 am

http://www.insiderpages.com/s/NV/LasVegas/Cardiologists?order=alpha&page=25&radius=50

My mistake, I did find him here in the Las Vegas listings. I still find it strange however, that they have searched his Houston, TX office and there is no recording of him in the TX listing. JMO
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Post by annieisnotokey on Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:21 am

mjthelegendlives wrote:Please do not publish the web address of this press room to the general public. We do not want to publicly distribute the names and numbers of Dr. Murray’s patients and friends who have so kindly offered to speak for him. Thanks for your consideration.

@ Human_nature...what are your thoughts? lol

lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

Can these lawyers actually be THAT thick??
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Post by MJJ Love on Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:47 pm

Wow, thats crazy...
Create in July 2009?
BUSTED.

Boy, I tell ya, they do not know how to cover their lies up good.
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Post by Pammy on Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:16 pm

ok i also wanted to look up the site of murray and it says the same as wrote before but what does this mean:

HOUSTONCRIMINALLAW-PRESSROOM.COM - Site Location
Country/FlagMurray patient info on lawyers website?? Us United States
City/Region/Zip CodeScottsdale, AZ 85260
OrganizationGoDaddy.com
Internet Service ProviderGoDaddy.com
HOUSTONCRIMINALLAW-PRESSROOM.COM - Domain Information
DomainHOUSTONCRIMINALLAW-PRESSROOM.COM

RegistrarGODADDY.COM, INC.
Registrar URLhttp://registrar.godaddy.com
Whois serverwhois.godaddy.com
Created02-Jul-2009
Updated02-Jul-2009
Expires02-Jul-2010
Time Left311 days 3 hours 55 minutes
StatusclientDeleteProhibited clientRenewProhibited clientTransferProhibited clientUpdateProhibited
DNS serversNS49.DOMAINCONTROL.COM 208.109.14.200
NS50.DOMAINCONTROL.COM 208.109.255.25
HOUSTONCRIMINALLAW-PRESSROOM.COM - DNS Information
IP Address97.74.144.182 ~ Whois - Trace Route - RBL Check
Domain Name Serversns49.domaincontrol.com 216.69.185.25
ns50.domaincontrol.com 208.109.255.25
Mail Exchangemailstore1.secureserver.net 216.69.186.201
smtp.secureserver.net 72.167.238.201


Site Response Header
ResponseHTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
ServerApache
DateMon, 24 Aug 2009 20:01:58 GMT
Content-Typetext/html; charset=UTF-8
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OK ... RBL Check Results (rbl check means = Realtime Blackhole List ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL

is there somebody who knows about that stuff and could explain this to me? Embarassed

http://www.cqcounter.com/rbl_check/?query=97.74.144.182
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Post by xXxAmyxXx on Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:57 pm

all i can say is omg wth lol!
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:03 pm

Dang you guys are good cheers
This is what I love about this forum, we have such smart people on here who do awesome research.

And btw, ROFL at the lawyers publishing the patient details. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to do so and only police officers can get them if they have warrants etc so to have them published openly on the internet.... Is anyone tempted to contact these people? Do they even exist? I'll bet almost anything that these people probably don't exist, or at least have never given their permission to have their details published openly.
Can you imagine how embarassing that would be? You use the same doctor who may have murdered 'Michael Jackson'.
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Post by MiaPaparazzi on Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:25 am

annieisnotokey wrote:
EarthAngel90 wrote:So ... Dr. Murray is a Replacement Heart Doctor but Can't Do Any Surgery of Cardiovascular Kind .... K.... that is strange ...

Dr. Murray is an Interventional Cardiologist.

"After Loma Linda Medical Center, he attended the University of Arizona
for his Cardiology Fellowship training. Dr. Murray later went into his
sub-specialty training at University of San Diego and Sharp Healthcare
in San Diego, California. There, Dr. Murray was under the guidance of
renowned Interventional Cardiologist, Professor Maurice Buchbinder,
M.D., with whom he spent 3 years following his training as the
associate director for the interventional cardiology
fellowship-training program at Sharp Memorial Hospital San Diego."
http://houstoncriminallaw-pressroom.com/biographical-information-%E2%80%93-dr-conrad-murray/

Interventional Cardiologists don't perform bypass surgery.
http://www.brighamandwomens.org/cvcenter/Patient/FAQ/FAQinterventional.aspx
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interventional_cardiology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interventional_cardiology[/quote[/url]]

Attended UofA? Hmm... I know a few people down there... think its time to call in some favors... Murray patient info on lawyers website?? Icon_wink

Hey also, IDK If this has been mentioned yet... but has anyone figured out WHY there are 2 websites for Houston Criminal Law? Obviously, one is fake but WHY the need to mimic a legal attorney's website? And IF they are in fact representing Dr Murray, they would not list his patients/contacts and do a "feature" page on him, I mean come on... confidentiality breaches all over the place here... and I did email the REAL site before we realized there were two sites and asked if they were still representing Dr Murray (told them I had a few questions and was told to contact his attorney for a statement- lol figured if they DID represent him then they would reply with something?) but they haven't replied as of yet and I emailed them on the 8th. So... any thoughts on this? Murray patient info on lawyers website?? Icon_scratch Murray patient info on lawyers website?? Icon_scratch Murray patient info on lawyers website?? Icon_scratch
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Post by jade jackson on Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:36 am

I think both of the websites for the lawyers are fake. Read the bios of the lawyers on both sites. This idea did not originate with me but with mjfan. Could you please check out the other website (not the one with the Murray patients) to see when it was created, etc. And please do read the laywers' bios on the "real" site.
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Post by illusionist on Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:03 pm

I just made my co-worker call the number on that website: 713.515.9727 - some lady named "Miranda" answered. My co-worker asked for some guy named "Doug Webber" with the law office of (I forgot the name he used). On the website the PR person is named Miranda Sevcik.
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Post by illusionist on Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:08 pm



OK ... RBL Check Results (rbl check means = Realtime Blackhole List ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL

is there somebody who knows about that stuff and could explain this to me? Embarassed

http://www.cqcounter.com/rbl_check/?query=97.74.144.182

Their ip address is listed with blacklist.spambag.org - doesn't mean they are spammers. Mostly like an
entire block of ip's is listed. Never heard of this spam list before though. Not a biggy really.
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