New CLUE! "I am Alive' Michael "Buried" AT NIGHT under Pisces full moon

I am doing some research on the reasons why whoever it is that arranged for MJ's burial did so on the night of a full moon.

So far I discovered that Michael was BORN under a Pisces Full Moon and on Sept 3rd it was also a Pisces Full Moon.

As I find more info I will post it here.

The Full Moon is the peak of the waxing phase of the lunar cycle and begins the waning phase of completion, so this is a time of culmination of the dreams and ideals (Pisces) so that we can harvest the seeds that we have sown. The stationary Mercury reminds us that we are entering a time to look back and reassess the details of our life, but the Pisces Full Moon urges us to seek solace in the never-ending flow of the soul that forms the true center of our being.

September 3 was Michaels BIRTHDAY on the Chinese Calander!?

Also, the full moon has not been lost on non-hoax believers, they are talking about it everywhere. IE:

What's funny about you mentioning the Pisces moon is that last night my mother and I were discussing a comment Gothan Chopra made on LKL...about MJ being late to his own funeral becuz even in life he was known to be fashionably late.

My mother and MJ are both Virgos and perfectionist to a "T". Anyway, I made the joke that altho Virgoans are perfectionists, Michael was known to have Piscean tendencies/traits. I always suspected that either the sun or the moon must have been in Pisces when he was born. Someone confirmed that to me before...and you are the 2nd person to mention it...so altho I can't read charts, I've now decided to accept this as truth. haha Thanks!

Isn't the whole purpose of being fashionably late to make a point such as "Look at me". I'm not suggesting that MJ was being arrogant or conceited but part of that fashionably late behavior stems from making certain that when the person does arrive that he/she will command everyone's undivided attention. From that point, I can see why MJ was known to be late...to command attention.

CantStopLovingU wrote:September 3 was Michaels BIRTHDAY on the Chinese Calander!?

Also, the full moon has not been lost on non-hoax believers, they are talking about it everywhere. IE:

What's funny about you mentioning the Pisces moon is that last night my mother and I were discussing a comment Gothan Chopra made on LKL...about MJ being late to his own funeral becuz even in life he was known to be fashionably late.

My mother and MJ are both Virgos and perfectionist to a "T". Anyway, I made the joke that altho Virgoans are perfectionists, Michael was known to have Piscean tendencies/traits. I always suspected that either the sun or the moon must have been in Pisces when he was born. Someone confirmed that to me before...and you are the 2nd person to mention it...so altho I can't read charts, I've now decided to accept this as truth. haha Thanks!

And this: A comment from a user on a MJJ Tribute Forum

I looked up what Michael's moon sign was on the free chart on this page after he died www.alabe.com - I being a Virgo wasn't surprised about the Pisces moon either. How odd that he went out of the world with it being the same sun in Virgo, moon in Pisces...

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I want the 'real' truth, whatever that may be - to come out for your sake Michael & for your children. 'If' he was killed, I hope it does all come out & 'they' get sent down for it. Michael tried to tell people many times people were after him.

I refuse to be a defeatist & believe all that we are told. If we all accepted what we were told they'd never be change in the world.

Also, the "BURIAL" was held at NIGHT. Many of us commented on how odd that was in it of itself - because I have neve heard or or attended a funeral / burial at night for anyone.

Here is something else I found interesting. I think there is a dual meaning/symbolism of holding the burial on the 70th day after + It was at night + It was a full waxing moon in Pisces (just as it was when he was born) I know that Jehovah Witnesses do not study or practice astrology or anything of that nature, so I do not think that Katherine had anything to do with the decision to hold the service on the 70th day during the night and during a full Pisces moon!

The sun is our light by day, the moon by night, and in the large cosmic sense day symbols our life in the celestial worlds or the empyrean when not incarnated.

Night is the definite symbol of our bodily incarnation. (Is this a clue? Could this mean that holding the service at NIGHT was a way to say "I am alive? Still in my body" ? CSLU)

Our day is symbolical (only) of our life as pure spirit; night betokens the subjection of our spirits to the gloom and darkness of incarnation.

If day is symbolic only of life as pure spirit (passed away out of our physical body) I would say that this is a major clue, the fact that they held this burial at NIGHT - CSLU)

If our spirits are subject to the gloom and darkness of incarnation - Incarnation means that a spirit being lives in a physical body, so in essense it is not truly free.

We can only have access to as much of the spiritual glory that OUR BODIES can give passage to.

If NIGHT is the symbol of BODILY INCARNATION - THAT TELLS ME THAT MICHAEL'S SPIRIT IS STILL IN HIS BODY - He is STILL ALIVE

THOUGHTS?

Check out his whole chart

Rising Sign is in 20 Degrees Gemini

Extremely active by nature, you like to get around, meet people and
do different things. Very restless, you just can't seem to stay put.
You need to be involved in several projects at once in order to keep
your mind stimulated. You like to read books and to write letters
and to talk -- constantly. Seemingly ageless, you will always appear
to be much younger than you really are. Very adaptable and
inquisitive, you are always open to new ideas and experiences. A
"jack-of-all-trades", you are lively and versatile. Because of the
high nervous tension that you always seem to have, athletic activity
would be a good way for you to burn off energy. But be careful of a
tendency to experience things only superficially -- try to dig in
and absorb things at a deeper level.


Sun is in 05 Degrees Virgo.

Extremely careful and cautious by nature, you value neatness and
order above all else. You rigorously practice very high standards of
living and conduct and you demand the same of everyone with whom you
come into contact. At times, you are so supercritical that you are
merely nit-picky. You are very good at practical skills and quite
handy with tools of all kinds. You are also greatly concerned with
hygiene, cleanliness and personal health problems. Very likely your
health is much better than you think it is -- don't worry so much!
Extremely methodical and analytical, you are a perfectionist -- this
makes you the perfect person to carry out highly detailed, precise
operations. But, at times, you pay so much attention to details that
you lose sight of the larger issues.


Moon is in 05 Degrees Pisces.

You have strong feelings and are extremely sensitive. It would help
if you had a thicker skin -- you tend to react emotionally to every
situation you come across. Kind, gentle and considerate of the
feelings of others, you are good at taking care of the sick, wounded
and helpless. But you tend to absorb the energy of others -- so
avoid those who are always negative. You have a rich, creative and
lively imagination, but you should be careful not to spend all your
time daydreaming. Very intuitive, you have good ESP and may be quite
clairvoyant or psychic. Remember that you too have the right to get
what you want from life. If you are always defensive and kowtowing
to others, people will take advantage of you and exploit you.


Mercury is in 25 Degrees Leo.

You are usually quite convinced that your own ideas are correct and
you enjoy persuading others that they are. At times, you are very
stubborn and proud of your beliefs and principles, and you get very
defensive when they are challenged. You appreciate truth and honesty
-- you practice it yourself and expect it in others. You have good
talent for organizing, directing and planning. You delight in being
asked for your advice and counsel.


Venus is in 16 Degrees Leo.

You have a striking, regal appearance and demeanor that attracts
others to you. Your friendship is highly sought and you tend to take
friendships quite seriously -- you remain loyal and true to those to
whom you are attached. For you, love is mixed with pride and
respect. Relationships are over when you lose respect for your
partner. Be careful of a tendency to relate only to those who make
you look good -- the powerful, important and influential. This can
lead to arrogance and selfishness, and neither of these qualities
becomes you.


Mars is in 21 Degrees Taurus.

Careful, slow and thorough about all that you do, at times you are
also willful and stubborn when others try to alter your course. You
are definitely not a quitter -- you will work long and hard to get
what you want. Your possessions are very important to you. One of
your continuing problems is that you tend to regard the significant
people in your life much the same way as you do your possessions --
you become overly attached and much too jealous. You repress your
anger when you get upset and that is not healthy. Try to learn to
show your anger immediately in order to avoid painful explosions
later.


Jupiter is in 28 Degrees Libra.

You are generally good at balancing opinions and judging issues, but
you tend to be indecisive when it comes to making up your own mind.
You are objective and quite concerned with fair play and justice.
But, when it comes to yourself, you are so aware that whatever you
do might upset the apple cart that you often choose to compromise
rather than do anything that might make you lonely or vulnerable.
Relationships are very important to you -- you learn about yourself
and grow through observing yourself interacting with others. Your
aesthetic tastes are refined, but expansive and expensive.


Saturn is in 19 Degrees Sagittarius.

Basically quite conservative, you respect traditional authority
figures and are very thankful and supportive of the laws and
institutions which govern your life. You learn and accept new ideas
only after having very thoroughly examined them. Ideals and abstract
concepts are important to you only if they can be used in some
practical fashion. You are so practical and so orderly that you have
natural skills in planning, administrating and organizing.


Uranus is in 13 Degrees Leo.

You, and your peers as well, demand complete and total freedom of
self- expression. You want to make your mark in the world according
to your own lights and will brook no interference from traditional
authority figures, especially if they attempt to mold or shape you
in any way. You are honest and forthright, but a bit offbeat and
eccentric. The lack of self-discipline may hinder you from reaching
your goals as quickly as you would like.


Neptune is in 02 Degrees Scorpio.

You, and your entire generation, are extremely interested in
anything deep and mysterious. You will explore and idealize the
benefits that can accrue from the study of the occult, healing and
psychology. You are willing to experiment with substances like drugs
in order to push your understanding of your inner being to the
extreme.


Pluto is in 02 Degrees Virgo.

For your entire generation, this will be a time when profound
changes in society's attitude toward work, duty and responsibility
will be initiated. Radical changes in attitudes toward personal
health and general nutrition will be promulgated and gain wide
acceptance and practice.


N. Node is in 23 Degrees Libra.

You find it very difficult to be comfortable being alone -- you
would much prefer to be in an environment where many people are
working together toward common goals. Your charming and sincere
approach to others assures your popularity -- you have the gift of
being able to ease tensions just by your mere presence. You're the
perfect "team player" willing to sacrifice your own importance so
that the group goal can be accomplished. Be careful, however, not to
become overly dependent on your interactions with others -- you have
personal private needs that should not be neglected.

so weird..

oh my god... i'm so confused
this is daily odder...

EarthAngel90 wrote:Moon is in 05 Degrees Pisces.

You have strong feelings and are extremely sensitive. It would help
if you had a thicker skin -- you tend to react emotionally to every
situation you come across. Kind, gentle and considerate of the
feelings of others, you are good at taking care of the sick, wounded
and helpless. But you tend to absorb the energy of others -- so
avoid those who are always negative. You have a rich, creative and
lively imagination, but you should be careful not to spend all your
time daydreaming. Very intuitive, you have good ESP and may be quite
clairvoyant or psychic. Remember that you too have the right to get
what you want from life. If you are always defensive and kowtowing
to others, people will take advantage of you and exploit you.

(I was acting funny when the Funeral happened - I was very emotional & about to faint & wonder why full moon funeral ??? - he must planned this - My Emotions were twisted!)

I was a mess while the burial was taking place. Doesn't help I'm a Pisces Sun, Cancer Moon, Pisces Mercury and Pisces Venus.

OK so if you take this:

The Full Moon is the peak of the waxing phase of the lunar cycle and begins the waning phase of completion, so this is a time of culmination of the dreams and ideals (Pisces) so that we can harvest the seeds that we have sown.

PLUS THIS

If NIGHT is the symbol of BODILY INCARNATION - THAT TELLS ME THAT MICHAEL'S SPIRIT IS STILL IN HIS BODY - He is STILL ALIVE

PLUS A Burial which would symbolize the end of one phase of life and the start of a new phase of life (for those of you who believe in the world that we cannot see)

That EQUALS

Michael is reaping the seeds of the hoax that he has sown, he is alive and is going to begin the next phase of his plans life.

I think this is very significant and gives us a huge amount of hope. Now I have to recall the symbolism of the 7's

EarthAngel90 wrote:Moon is in 05 Degrees Pisces.

You have strong feelings and are extremely sensitive. It would help
if you had a thicker skin -- you tend to react emotionally to every
situation you come across. Kind, gentle and considerate of the
feelings of others, you are good at taking care of the sick, wounded
and helpless. But you tend to absorb the energy of others -- so
avoid those who are always negative. You have a rich, creative and
lively imagination, but you should be careful not to spend all your
time daydreaming. Very intuitive, you have good ESP and may be quite
clairvoyant or psychic. Remember that you too have the right to get
what you want from life. If you are always defensive and kowtowing
to others, people will take advantage of you and exploit you.

(I was acting funny when the Funeral happened - I was very emotional & about to faint & wonder why full moon funeral ??? - he must planned this - My Emotions were twisted!)

i know what you mean, i was a wreck too! i'm a sagittarius and frankly all the astrology stuff confuses me! i do find it interesting tho...

Well! I was just anxious to see how the funeral was all going to be pulled off. The first thing I noticed was the arrangement of the coffin area. I didn't like the pics they chose and the floral arrangement was so bland. Everything was white. MJ loved colors. When people started showing up they all looked so relaxed as though they were showing up for a performance. One of the news reporters said LaToya wore a dress with the back out. They thought it was inappropriate for a funeral. I thought they were filming a movie or something. The lightening and then the family showing up awfully late. I found that to be rude. I felt sorry for Liz (she's old). I saw some people with water bottles. I guess the dancers started handing them out after a while. I didn't like to picture on the program either. Well! that describes me Sagittarius. Keep the Faith!

~I only really halfway Understood this!~

~I really tried!~~Honestly!~

~Maybe someone can explain it a little bit simpler?~



~Sorry for the Inconvenience!~


~Oh!~~and I'm a Leo~

For me too please

MyBelovedMJ wrote:I threwup several times, before the ceromoni started, and my entire body was shakeing. When I saw Elizabeth Taylor, and Mrs.Jackson, I felt like it was over, and my heart stopped beating, just for a few seconds, (although it felt like forever) and I couldent breath.

Its the worse thing Ive ever experienced in my entire life.

Then suddenly out of nowhere, I had a weird feeling, it was like lightning went through my entire body, and I felt Michael very strongly, and for the first time in almost 3 months, I really felt he was alive, I mean for real. I couldent let him go, I couldent, something told me not to. (Ive kinda felt it, the entire time, but thursday was very special)

Never tried this before. It was kinda scary

Sending you hugs MBMJ.

JB.

MyBelovedMJ wrote:I threwup several times, before the ceromoni started, and my entire body was shakeing. When I saw Elizabeth Taylor, and Mrs.Jackson, I felt like it was over, and my heart stopped beating, just for a few seconds, (although it felt like forever) and I couldent breath.

Its the worse thing Ive ever experienced in my entire life.

Then suddenly out of nowhere, I had a weird feeling, it was like lightning went through my entire body, and I felt Michael very strongly, and for the first time in almost 3 months, I really felt he was alive, I mean for real. I couldent let him go, I couldent, something told me not to. (Ive kinda felt it, the entire time, but thursday was very special)

Never tried this before. It was kinda scary

I too have experienced this weird feeling of sureness and certainty, that Michael is indeed here. It's what keeps me going even on days I lose faith, and especially after watching the burial.
Hugs

He is still alive I am so sure. I will not give up. I am sure he knows how much we all love him.



JB.

~Most Seem so Interested in Taking~


~I would only offer~as I always do~my Hand and my Heart Unconditionally~


~*~LOVE~*~

Sweet1 wrote:Well! I was just anxious to see how the funeral was all going to be pulled off. The first thing I noticed was the arrangement of the coffin area. I didn't like the pics they chose and the floral arrangement was so bland. Everything was white. MJ loved colors. When people started showing up they all looked so relaxed as though they were showing up for a performance. One of the news reporters said LaToya wore a dress with the back out. They thought it was inappropriate for a funeral. I thought they were filming a movie or something. The lightening and then the family showing up awfully late. I found that to be rude. I felt sorry for Liz (she's old). I saw some people with water bottles. I guess the dancers started handing them out after a while. I didn't like to picture on the program either. Well! that describes me Sagittarius. Keep the Faith!

Hmmmm good observation, going to look up the meaning of the flower colors.

ALSO The USHERS were dressed in the SAME ATTIRE that the old fashions MOVIE USHERS used to wear.

I didn't even think his burial was supposed to be televised. I was watching the TVGuide Network's special Hollywood 411: MJ Edition when I heard that tv crews from all over the world would be there and I thought "huh? what's going on? ain't this supposed to be private!" But, I did watch and yeah...it was extremely hard to hold back the tears...

illusionist wrote:

EarthAngel90 wrote:Moon is in 05 Degrees Pisces.

You have strong feelings and are extremely sensitive. It would help
if you had a thicker skin -- you tend to react emotionally to every
situation you come across. Kind, gentle and considerate of the
feelings of others, you are good at taking care of the sick, wounded
and helpless. But you tend to absorb the energy of others -- so
avoid those who are always negative. You have a rich, creative and
lively imagination, but you should be careful not to spend all your
time daydreaming. Very intuitive, you have good ESP and may be quite
clairvoyant or psychic. Remember that you too have the right to get
what you want from life. If you are always defensive and kowtowing
to others, people will take advantage of you and exploit you.

(I was acting funny when the Funeral happened - I was very emotional & about to faint & wonder why full moon funeral ??? - he must planned this - My Emotions were twisted!)

I was a mess while the burial was taking place. Doesn't help I'm a Pisces Sun, Cancer Moon, Pisces Mercury and Pisces Venus.

OMG .. I am Pisces !!!..... Does any other Pisces last night have same reaction ???? as Illusionist & I ?