MJ double - anyone knows when was this picture taken?

I found it while searching for fun pictures I'd say it's the Bad era, but what were they filming?
The double seems pretty convincing - or maybe it's a dummy?
Oh, and ignore the macro...

Wow

Now, THIS is a good picture!! Thank you for posting!

It does not look like a dummy.....

Do you know I think the dummy from this angle looks very much like the picture in the ambulance just needs the pipes very interesting! From this angle I think the picture in the ambulance was a dummy! Although it didnt quite look like a dummy if you know what I mean

it looks like the making of Leave me Alone, you can see MJ on the right with the roller coaster tracks on his jacket sleeve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So-kNWU02QY

Yes, the jacket in the Leave me alone is red like Michael on the right is wearing.
The one who is laying down, however, is wearing black.
Do you think it's a dummy?
I'll go watch the video again.

This is interesting! Also, I had read it on one of E'Cas sites and paid no attention, but then I read in the Life Tribute to Michael edition that in the video for "Who Is It" that it was not him doing his parts. He had hired E'Cas to do it because of scheduling conflicts but he had a deadline with the production team to get the video finished at the same time so he had E'Cas take his place for the filming. Michael himself is not in that video at all but I would have never known if I hadn't read it.

i doesnt look like a dummy, it has got me puzzled looks like a stand in to me, i mean some kind of stunt man type of person, did MJ ever have a stunt man????

all i can say about the picture is OMG

kdkennedy74 wrote:This is interesting! Also, I had read it on one of E'Cas sites and paid no attention, but then I read in the Life Tribute to Michael edition that in the video for "Who Is It" that it was not him doing his parts. He had hired E'Cas to do it because of scheduling conflicts but he had a deadline with the production team to get the video finished at the same time so he had E'Cas take his place for the filming. Michael himself is not in that video at all but I would have never known if I hadn't read it.

MJ is NOT in Who is it AT ALL? Whaaaaa?

Sorry but the Michael at the bottom looks photoshoped in(:

mo2kidzs wrote:Sorry but the Michael at the bottom looks photoshoped in(:

I dont think it is photoshopped. Too hard to place hands on camera like they are. And lighting is not off, he is not disportionate to the rest of photo... just my 2 cents.

mo2kidzs wrote:Sorry but the Michael at the bottom looks photoshoped in(:

thats what I was thinking. Why use a dummy or double when he is right there? That doesnt look like a difficult scene...so why a stunt? Unless he wanted to direct the film himself? IDK

Edit* Hmm this is certainly puzzling...the person/dummy/double looks like MJ looks nowadays.

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:

kdkennedy74 wrote:This is interesting! Also, I had read it on one of E'Cas sites and paid no attention, but then I read in the Life Tribute to Michael edition that in the video for "Who Is It" that it was not him doing his parts. He had hired E'Cas to do it because of scheduling conflicts but he had a deadline with the production team to get the video finished at the same time so he had E'Cas take his place for the filming. Michael himself is not in that video at all but I would have never known if I hadn't read it.

MJ is NOT in Who is it AT ALL? Whaaaaa?

I heard it was just E'Cas at the end of the video where he is in the helicopter. I also heard he was in the "Remember The Time" video as well but don't know how true that one is.

Am I the only one who thinks E'Casanova looks nothing like Michael? LoL.

wandulka wrote:Am I the only one who thinks E'Casanova looks nothing like Michael? LoL.

Nope, I agree with you. I don´t see it at all.

Rach wrote:

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:

kdkennedy74 wrote:This is interesting! Also, I had read it on one of E'Cas sites and paid no attention, but then I read in the Life Tribute to Michael edition that in the video for "Who Is It" that it was not him doing his parts. He had hired E'Cas to do it because of scheduling conflicts but he had a deadline with the production team to get the video finished at the same time so he had E'Cas take his place for the filming. Michael himself is not in that video at all but I would have never known if I hadn't read it.

MJ is NOT in Who is it AT ALL? Whaaaaa?

I heard it was just E'Cas at the end of the video where he is in the helicopter. I also heard he was in the "Remember The Time" video as well but don't know how true that one is.

Well! there you have it. See how brilliant MJ is! No one had a clue that MJ himself wasn't in those videos until they read about it. He knew early on that people don't read to gain knowledge but rather for gossip. We still wouldn't know if this HOAX hadn't happened. MJ spent time in books from childhood. He read everything. That's why he was so clever in making things happen in his life. Case in point, this HOAX. I am not surprised nor am I shocked. In the video Who Is It. It's filmed so dark you can hardly make out the characters anyway so it would be difficult to tell if it were MJ or not in all honesty. I just love MJ. He is such a man of mystery but at the same time having an innocence about him that sets him apart from everyone else. Keep the Faith!

I don't know about the "Who is it" video, but about the "Remember the time" video E'Casanova said he worked as a stand-in.

A stand-in in film and television is a person who substitutes for the actor before filming, for technical purposes such as lighting. Stand-ins are helpful in the initial processes of production. Lighting setup can be a slow and tedious process; during this time the actor will often be somewhere else. Stand-ins allow the director of photography to light the set, the camera department to light and focus scenes. The director will often ask stand-ins to deliver the scene dialogue ("lines") and walk through ("blocking") the scenes to be filmed. In this way, a good stand-in can help speed up the day's production and is a necessary and valuable cast member on a film. Stand-ins are distinguished from body doubles, who replace actors on camera from behind, in makeup, or during dangerous stunts. Stand-ins do not appear on camera. However, on some productions the jobs of stand-in and double may be done by the same person. Stand-ins do not necessarily look like the actor, but they must have the same skin tone, hair color, height and build as the actor so that the lighting in a scene will be set up correctly. For example, if the lighting is set up with a stand-in shorter than an actor, the actor might end up having his or her head in relative darkness.

Just for the sake of sharing a bit of silly trivia I'll tell you that I read in David Cassidy's autobiography that his stand in for the Partridge Family was actually a woman!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5KAJw4y8wE

Here's the video for "Leave Me Alone"

it dont look photoshopped to me but can we find out?? good find if its genuine

Ijustcarntstoplovingu wrote:Do you know I think the dummy from this angle looks very much like the picture in the ambulance just needs the pipes very interesting! From this angle I think the picture in the ambulance was a dummy! Although it didnt quite look like a dummy if you know what I mean

I agree this pic looks very like MJ in the ambulance.

ishealive wrote:

Ijustcarntstoplovingu wrote:Do you know I think the dummy from this angle looks very much like the picture in the ambulance just needs the pipes very interesting! From this angle I think the picture in the ambulance was a dummy! Although it didnt quite look like a dummy if you know what I mean

I agree this pic looks very like MJ in the ambulance.

I know what you mean and I agree with you. Here is the pic without the caption:
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/bad/shortfilms/lma/028.jpg

My first post on this website was on the double in the Who Is It video. I was freaked out about it because I never realized it wasn't Michael at some parts. The helicopter part isn't Michael and when he is sitting in the car is also not the real Michael. Very clever of him. I'm assuming we are overlooking things as we speak..!! I try to look outside the box but some things are so well hidden (or so obvious that we forget to look at it) that I feel we won't see it unless someone from the outside points it out.

4evermichael71 wrote:

ishealive wrote:

Ijustcarntstoplovingu wrote:Do you know I think the dummy from this angle looks very much like the picture in the ambulance just needs the pipes very interesting! From this angle I think the picture in the ambulance was a dummy! Although it didnt quite look like a dummy if you know what I mean

I agree this pic looks very like MJ in the ambulance.

I know what you mean and I agree with you. Here is the pic without the caption:
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Thanks for that
It does look like the ambulance pic especially with this clearer view. This has got me thinking!!

This is exactly what it looks like. But who knows perhaps MJ reflected on that process for the Hoax from the making of the video for Leave Me Alone. Thanks for your observation. Keep the Faith!

beverleyflossy wrote:it looks like the making of Leave me Alone, you can see MJ on the right with the roller coaster tracks on his jacket sleeve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So-kNWU02QY

It surely has me thinking too! We have to keep the faith!

mo2kidzs wrote:Sorry but the Michael at the bottom looks photoshoped in(:

I agree. It's much more vivid then the rest of the photo.

Oh, sorry :-( I thought he looked like he was closer to the lights because the guy behind him with the blue jacket is vivid too except where the shadow is in front of him....

wandulka wrote:Am I the only one who thinks E'Casanova looks nothing like Michael? LoL.

He really doesn't! lol

Nope, not really lol

So Navi doesn't look like him or E'cas so if he does have a double who is it??? I think he had a double/lookalike that went out with a mask on but that's it.
I can't imagine anyone looking 99% like him but this is just my opinion, i'd love to see a double that's actually in a pic with him *lol*

http://www.almostmj.com/gallery/SlideShow.asp?img_gallery_id=7981&img_id=257083

look thru this guys pics carlo riley and see what u think,i think he could come easier to passing for michael if need be,you gotta remember also, lighting,angles,etc. it mite not look "exactly" like him,but,would it have to be that close,after all, some people are questioning the 02 michael and some are not,i cant find doubles,only impersonators,but,try to read up on this guy and see what u think let me know, shelia

http://www.almostmj.com/gallery/SlideShow.asp?img_gallery_id=7981&img_id=257083#

this comes close to looking like him but,i dont know if its a REAL article mag or not,could just be one u have printed up with your pics here in computer land(?) let me know

just my opinon but,i think this carlo guy resembles michael more than ecassanova,just my HO tho

Yup, the stand-in was used at 2:43 in the video.

E'casanova :

Carlo Riley :

I personally think E'casanova is the best MJ impersonator. Him and Earnest Valentino. This is my opinion, and you're free to think what you want

wow,intresting

I remember reading that they used a robot-like dummy for that part in the Leave Me Alone video. That isn't a double.

Human_nature wrote:E'casanova :

So, the 3rd pic od ECAS too? He looks sooooo MUCH LIKE MJ right there. It's almost uncanny...
is the 2nd pic him with the little girl? if so that pics dates back to the 80's. has he been using E Cas as a DOUBLE all that time? If So, wow! i'm astounded for sure.

If you want more of him, then watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-fzMZrbvBM

why is the left leg bent at the knee in the first photo?

Am I the only one who thinks E'Casanova looks nothing like Michael? LoL.

Nope, I agree!

Does anyone else here find it really creepy that these people got all this surgery done to look like someone else...?

lonelynation wrote:Does anyone else here find it really creepy that these people got all this surgery done to look like someone else...?

WTF?

I find it creepy that you would make a sideswipe derogatory slur towards MJ.

In fact, I am so pissed off that a Moderator would dare diss MJ that I am closing my account on this board!!!

Knock yourself out lonelynation, you jerk!!!!!!

In fact, I am so pissed off that a Moderator would dare diss MJ that I am closing my account on this board!!!

Knock yourself out lonelynation, you jerk!!!!!!

Woah wait!!!
I didn't mean it at all in a negative way towards MJ!
I just mean the fact that someone would get a ton of plastic surgery done to look like another person.
I didn't at all mean it as a derogatory slur.
I'm sorry if I came off that way - that's not how I meant it.