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Post by Rach Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:43 pm

Hey Guys.

So the last few days have been crazy and most of us are all over the place at the moment.

I want to bring your attention back to last week when I started a thread called "Calm before the storm?". I had a crazy feeling last week that someone big was coming our way and I think now we are starting to see the beginning of it.

There has been so much drama both on here and MJHD recently and I DON'T for one minute think is a coincidence. I think we are been watched because we are getting close to the truth and certain people are been advised to come on the boards and create choas and throw us off the scent.

I just want to ask you all to stick with what your gut is telling you and don't be afraid to post. We have some great theories going on at the moment and won't be thrown off by what is happening.

Rachel.


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Post by NikkiKat22 Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:49 pm

O.k just to let you know, the way you wrote that. scared the shit outa me. so thanks.LOl anyway, Who do you think is watching? confused
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Post by Rach Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:52 pm

I'm sorry Honey, I dind't mean to scare you!

I have no idea who is watching us but I think it's becoming more and more apparent that they are. I KNEW after the burial things would go crazy because "insiders" expected the hoax talk to die down and it hasn't. It just added more questions and rasied more suspicions.

I think the next few days are going to be interesting ones for us.
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Post by Lorrie Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:53 pm

Rach wrote:There has been so much drama both on here and MJHD recently and I DON'T for one minute think is a coincidence. I think we are been watched because we are getting close to the truth and certain people are been advised to come on the boards and create choas and throw us off the scent.

I don't think the recent ridiculousness is a coincidence, either. But I also don't believe it has anything to do with being watched or something big coming, although I could be wrong, of course.

People are more emotional than usual because of the September 3rd burial ceremony and the finality of such an event.

The drama will stop as soon as people stop contributing to it with comments and additional threads, which is why you won't find me participating in a single discussion that starts going the drama route.

All admins and moderators need to do is get rid of trolls and troublemakers immediately. There's really no need for follow-up threads and comments to prolong the chaos.

Just my two cents.
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Post by Starsun_ Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:54 pm

I agree with you Rachel, we are so beeing watched. There has been to much "drama" these couple of days
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Post by Rach Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:55 pm

Lorrie, thanks for your input. Myself and the other MODs are doing all we can to ban the troublemakers from here but we can't be on here 24/7 and sometimes these people slip through the net.

However, I am keeping an open eye and anyone who is seen to be a troublemaker will be banned and deleted.
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Post by GirlSaturday Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:56 pm

Thanks for the heads up. It's greatly appreciated.

It was a weird week but I just attributed it to the days surrounding the dreaded September 3rd event.

I will try and do my part by staying f-o-c-u-s-e-d.
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Rach wrote:Hey Guys.

So the last few days have been crazy and most of us are all over the place at the moment.

I want to bring your attention back to last week when I started a thread called "Calm before the storm?". I had a crazy feeling last week that someone big was coming our way and I think now we are starting to see the beginning of it.

There has been so much drama both on here and MJHD recently and I DON'T for one minute think is a coincidence. I think we are been watched because we are getting close to the truth and certain people are been advised to come on the boards and create choas and throw us off the scent.

I just want to ask you all to stick with what your gut is telling you and don't be afraid to post. We have some great theories going on at the moment and won't be thrown off by what is happening.

Rachel.
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Post by Guest Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:57 pm

Thanks Rachel...Totally agree with you. Ive felt this way from the start. hence why
im very careful with my posts.

I just hope this forum dosent suddenly go poof!!! gone. that would be bad becasue
we should always have freedom of speech. many people on here have worked
very hard and never stop believing that Mj was indeed alive.

Keep the Faith guys... Well done
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Post by Red Velvet Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:59 pm

Rach, did you get my PM? I don't see it in my outbox.

I agree, we have to be careful for more reasons than one.

There are two sides with a potential 'interest' in watching us.

One for the good, one for the bad..
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Post by J.J_loves_MJ Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:00 pm

Rach wrote:Hey Guys.

So the last few days have been crazy and most of us are all over the place at the moment.

I want to bring your attention back to last week when I started a thread called "Calm before the storm?". I had a crazy feeling last week that someone big was coming our way and I think now we are starting to see the beginning of it.

There has been so much drama both on here and MJHD recently and I DON'T for one minute think is a coincidence. I think we are been watched because we are getting close to the truth and certain people are been advised to come on the boards and create choas and throw us off the scent.

I just want to ask you all to stick with what your gut is telling you and don't be afraid to post. We have some great theories going on at the moment and won't be thrown off by what is happening.

Rachel.

You are very right. We are watched.
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Post by ishealive Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:02 pm

Rachel wasn't there a thread started tonight or today about Dr. Murray's Lawyer's website, the smilie faces are gone from the end of each page and Dr. Murray's details have been deleted. On this thread alot of people believe we are being watched, it was posted here a few weeks ago about how ridiculous those smilies were and unprofessional and now they're gone.

I firmly believe TMZ are watching us, there's been so many coincidences in their headlines especially earlier on. Do you remember the article about the UPS guy getting into was it Dr. Murray's house or office with a package and he was sent away and we questioned why the police/DEA didn't check the package and then the following week we get another headliner from TMZ saying well actually the authorities did check the package...
We are def being watched.


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Post by MJJ1982 Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:03 pm

Rachel you're right, we ARE being watched......
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:05 pm

ishealive wrote:Rachel wasn't there a thread started tonight or today about Dr. Murray's Lawyer's website, the smilie faces are gone from the end of each page and Dr. Murray's details have been deleted. On this thread alot of people believe we are being watched, it was posted here a few weeks ago about how ridiculous those smilies were and unprofessional and now they're gone.

I firmly believe TMZ are watching us, there's been so many coincidences in their headlines especially earlier on. Do you remember the article about the UPS guy getting into was it Dr. Murray's house or office with a package and he was sent away and we questioned why the police/DEA didn't check the package and then the following week we get another headliner from TMZ saying well actually the authorities did check the package...
We're are def being watched.

Also the discussion we had on antother thread about Casablanca theme at the reception after the burial has come to Daily Mirror´s knowledge appaerantly. Look:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs-old/latest/2009/09/06/bogar-t-stars-for-jackson-115875-21650965/

Coincidence? I dont know, maybe.

P.s. sorry if it´s already posted
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Post by Rach Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:07 pm

ishealive wrote:Rachel wasn't there a thread started tonight or today about Dr. Murray's Lawyer's website, the smilie faces are gone from the end of each page and Dr. Murray's details have been deleted. On this thread alot of people believe we are being watched, it was posted here a few weeks ago about how ridiculous those smilies were and unprofessional and now they're gone.

I firmly believe TMZ are watching us, there's been so many coincidences in their headlines especially earlier on. Do you remember the article about the UPS guy getting into was it Dr. Murray's house or office with a package and he was sent away and we questioned why the police/DEA didn't check the package and then the following week we get another headliner from TMZ saying well actually the authorities did check the package...
We are def being watched.

Yes there was ishealive and I watched it with great interest because I knew last week that was going to happen.

I don't understand why TMZ feels the need to comment on what we are saying because IMO it makes them look even more suspicious. If they left it maybe we would die down but they are adding to the fire.
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Post by Grace Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:07 pm

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Post by aamj07 Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:08 pm

ALL THE MODS ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB ON THIS SITE!!!
(yes, I'm yelling at anyone who disagrees)
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Post by DreamsComeTrue Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:09 pm

Rach wrote:I'm sorry Honey, I dind't mean to scare you!

I have no idea who is watching us but I think it's becoming more and more apparent that they are. I KNEW after the burial things would go crazy because "insiders" expected the hoax talk to die down and it hasn't. It just added more questions and rasied more suspicions.

I think the next few days are going to be interesting ones for us.

Gosh, this is funnY! I was thinking the same! I think the burial's purpose was to shut mouths and to brainwash again! That's why they showed parts of the burial and photos! Maybe Michael is not prepared yet to let people know about him being alive, maybe he still have work to do!

That burial hasn't touch me in anyway! I was expecting to cry or something, but no! I felt more than ever that Michael was alive and the burial was so staged!
I also feel this the begining of the storm (I hope I'll see the rainbow after this cyclops )
The Calm before the storm thing, I read it on MediaHypeAgain Twitter!

Thanks Rachel for writting this! All this is getting very interesting day by day! affraid Laughing
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Post by ishealive Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:11 pm

@Rachel you'd imagine TMZ would keep quiet I can't see the logic behind it, but then again I think TMZ are part of the hoax or else being used. That article was really funny and also really fishy.
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Post by GirlSaturday Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:12 pm

Three Cheers for the Worldwide Web! cheers cheers cheers

Goodness where we be without it.

Grace wrote:There were false routes, fake news, fake pics, fake footage, staged public appearances and they all did NOT lead to the desired result to make people give up and lose hope.
Whoever placed the false signs was not reckoning on the cooperation capabilities and willingness around the world to find the truth.

This is the first time in history that there are thousands of people working on hundreds of sites like this one together, analysing, exchanging, discussing, judging, debunking.

How would someone expect in the era of internet and global access to information that there would not be a global investigation of the tide of events contradicting so much one another.

I recall a hostage in a non-European country where Europeans of several nationalities were captured during weeks. There were people uniting from all kinds of nationalities in order to help find them and free them. In the end, it was a story of political agreements and diplomacy freeing the hostages. But the information what initially had happened to them, where they had been captured - and that something at all had happened to the persons - had been delivered from a great team of devoted encouraged people only meeting over the internet.

Whoever wants to stir up the soup now - guys, we are prepared.
We have seen the swirl before and we are still here.

And we laugh and have a lot of fun. lol!
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Post by ishealive Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:19 pm

@Grace very well said.
There's no fooling us, we're not stupid and we certainly are not sheep!

@GirlSaturday lol!
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Post by Sweet1 Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:20 pm

Rachel you and the other MODS are doing an awesome job monitoring. You were dead right about the calm before the storm. The sites of MJHD have been watched since June. It's just now that the hoax has been figured out and supported that we're being watched more frequently. It just lets them know that we're not stupid and are able to think for ourselves. We appreciate you and the other MODS Rachel more than we could say in words. Keep the Faith!
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Post by White_Orchid Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:23 pm

Your intuition is more correct than you know!

The US Senate is currently going through the voting process on two Bills that woud give the Federal Government control over the internet as a matter of Regulatory Law.

David Rockefeller IV, the NWO spin doctor and perhaps our miodern day Hitler, was the architect of these two Bills, S.773 and S778 respectively, (URL http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d111&querybd=@FIELD(FLD003+@4((@1(Sen+Rockefeller++John+D.++IV))+01424)
Premise of Bill S.773 states that ..." A bill to ensure the continued free flow of commerce within the United States and with its global trading partners through secure cyber communications, to provide for the continued development and exploitation of the Internet and intranet communications for such purposes, to provide for the development of a cadre of information technology specialists to improve and maintain effective cybersecurity defenses against disruption, and for other purposes."
Premise of Bill S.778 states"..A bill to establish, within the Executive Office of the President, the Office of National Cybersecurity Advisor."
ISP's alarmed at Senate Bill granting Presidential control of Internet__http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html?tag=rtcol;pop
Rochefeller should drop the flimsy pretext of 'cyberterrorism protection' and replace it with a more accurate naming policy _ Facist surveillance and NWO control (http://www.physics911.net/ivashov).Slightly Off topic but sharing similar pattern of Governmental deception and misinformation, is the bioterrorism of the 'Swine Flu' pandemic should also be accurately named_ NWO global eugenics accomplished by mass innoculation with a tainted vaccinations (thanks and prayers to Jane Burgermeister).
Although Rockefeller and his NWO cronies give most sane people the heebie-jeebies, we need to pray for astuteness in the Senate for enough votes to defeat Rochefeller's Bills. Indivdual freedom and 'privacy' are inalienable Rights_ not privileges conferred by the Feds.
Even if the Senate defeats Bills S.773 and S. 778 this round, Rochefeller will only try a different tactic towards internet control so it is always wise to make like water and flow around the obstacles. So, is there a Plan B that would still oermit the individual to surf the Net and escape detection by the NWO 'all seeing eyes of Big Brother' and keep their internet business private from the Feds?'
Answer: Yes, no and maybe.
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Post by Human_nature Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:25 pm

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Post by Rach Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:26 pm

@ White_Orchid

Thank you so much for contributing to the thread. I was hoping you would because your last few posts have fascinated me.

I am keen to here you say more on the subject because I feel we may be on the same wavelength with this so please do share with me! If not on a thread then feel free to send me a PM.

Thanks Smile
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Post by Grace Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:27 pm

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Post by Banessa Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:29 pm

aamj07 wrote:ALL THE MODS ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB ON THIS SITE!!!
(yes, I'm yelling at anyone who disagrees)

lol! Awww! you are sweet, Thanks! I heard you all the way in LA lol!

I also agree with Rachel that we are being watched. At first I thought it would only happen over at the MJHD forum. But now that this forum has definitely been growing and we do have a lot of guests who never post. Which is fine no harm done in that, but it does seem to fuel the idea. I love TMZ guys! Sorry and please don't bash me lol but My gut tells me they are in the hoax! They have dropped several clues for us and I think Michael is using them as his voice. Just a thought! Michael needs someone to give out clues that only people like us the ones who believe he is alive, will get. Who better than TMZ who really here, in the US, no one takes them serious as far as reporting anything goes And no one takes us serious either! I'm not sure if I am making myself clear....Keep in mind I have been Sleep Sleep deprived since June 25th! lol If someone gets my crazy idea and can explain it better, please feel free to do so! Very Happy

Thanks sweet1 I love you
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Post by Savannah Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:38 pm

Wow...this is so exciting!!! Grace said: This is the first time in history that there are thousands of people working on hundreds of sites like this one together, analysing, exchanging, discussing, judging, debunking. That just really hit home for me. We are making history. That gives me goose bumps just thinking about it. Well, if we are being watched, I need to stop sitting around in my jammies all day with no make up...I wouldn't want Michael to see me like that. He would be like.... affraid (LOL) All jokes aside, though, I just hope that they are watching in a good way (wanting us to find Michaels clues), and not in a bad way (like they are angry that we are finding clues). However, I really feel that these clues are being left for a reason...for us to find and solve! Wink
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Post by Human_nature Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:40 pm

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Post by Jade Cat Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:41 pm

Grace wrote:There were false routes, fake news, fake pics, fake footage, staged public appearances and they all did NOT lead to the desired result to make people give up and lose hope.
Whoever placed the false signs was not reckoning on the cooperation capabilities and willingness around the world to find the truth.

This is the first time in history that there are thousands of people working on hundreds of sites like this one together, analysing, exchanging, discussing, judging, debunking.

How would someone expect in the era of internet and global access to information that there would not be a global investigation of the tide of events contradicting so much one another.

I recall a hostage in a non-European country where Europeans of several nationalities were captured during weeks. There were people uniting from all kinds of nationalities in order to help find them and free them. In the end, it was a story of political agreements and diplomacy freeing the hostages. But the information what initially had happened to them, where they had been captured - and that something at all had happened to the persons - had been delivered from a great team of devoted encouraged people only meeting over the internet.

Whoever wants to stir up the soup now - guys, we are prepared.
We have seen the swirl before and we are still here.

And we laugh and have a lot of fun. lol!


Yes! They just can't stop the people who want to know the TRUTH! This place is full of amazing researchers of truth...And the mods are great too. Wink It's so wonderful to have an MJ forum with actual freedom of speech about all the suspicious stuff. It's a great thing, really. Where would we be without this place and others?
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Post by Sweet1 Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:45 pm

You're welcomed Banessa,
Keep the Faith!
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Post by NikkiKat22 Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:54 pm

Rach wrote:I'm sorry Honey, I dind't mean to scare you!

I have no idea who is watching us but I think it's becoming more and more apparent that they are. I KNEW after the burial things would go crazy because "insiders" expected the hoax talk to die down and it hasn't. It just added more questions and rasied more suspicions.

I think the next few days are going to be interesting ones for us.




LOL no worries. It just the way it sounds, like something coming out of a horror movie thats about to strike and kill. But Yeah i totally agree with you we are being watched. I think all the follow up threads really helped me nderstand what happened at the burial I think there imporatant to discuss everything that went down. Your not gonna delete them are ya? confused
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Post by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:03 pm

I remember two occasions where I went: uhm yeah, hello TMZ!

1. Remember the heroin thread? Miss Dahmer said 'Harvey can lick my ass crack'. Just a tad later TMZ posts this: http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/28/guess-the-coin-slot/

2. Remember the visualisation of Ed Winter? Sitting behind desk, saying 'I'm not going to answer the phone, you do it!'. Savannah added the donut eating part in there, which we started spreading in other threads as well.
Then I read this on TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/02/michael-jackson-burial-doughnuts-food/

So being watched? You betcha!
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:38 pm

I agree but there is no reason to panic ok guys. Rationality and logic remember those two words.
We definitely don't need another 'headless chicken' moment here ok.
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Post by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:43 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:I agree but there is no reason to panic ok guys. Rationality and logic remember those two words.
We definitely don't need another 'headless chicken' moment here ok.

Yep, cause there have always been lurkers. No need to panic now. A_P_O_M just won a fresh jar of Nutella and access to one of AK's 'bags' afro
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:50 pm

*gag* Zembla - you can keep the 'bag' I'm giving it to you, I insist Cool
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Post by Rach Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:00 pm

I agree with you all that there is not need to panic!

We have known this from the start and when MJHD closed down it only confirmed my suspicions. I just wanted people to know that our work isn't going unnoticed and to be on the look out for anything unusual so we can note it down!

I'm sorry if I scared anyone!
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Post by NikkiKat22 Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:05 pm

Rach wrote:I agree with you all that there is not need to panic!

We have known this from the start and when MJHD closed down it only confirmed my suspicions. I just wanted people to know that our work isn't going unnoticed and to be on the look out for anything unusual so we can note it down!

I'm sorry if I scared anyone!



you didn't scare anyone, its just the way I read it, like something out of a horror movie. Hey just a thought, do you guys think that there could be people on the inside. like the media has people signing up posing as people? to get information? confused IDk, if I made any sense. I hope I did! LOL
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Post by aamj07 Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:09 pm

No prob, Banessa! I got you ladies backs! I'm small, but damn it I can kick some @ss! Very Happy
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Post by hasil Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:09 pm

NEVER let faction 1 scare you...
they try with many manipulations, but dont buy it..
go john lennon on them..or go MJ on them...
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Post by Banessa Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:21 pm

aamj07 wrote:No prob, Banessa! I got you ladies backs! I'm small, but damn it I can kick some @ss! Very Happy

Thanks!!! I love you
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Post by CantStopLovingU Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:32 pm

Grace wrote:
Savannah wrote:Well, if we are being watched, I need to stop sitting around in my jammies all day with no make up...I wouldn't want Michael to see me like that. He would be like.... affraid

OK ladies, bathroom time, get your make-up right and don't come out without a breeze of Jil Sander on you....

I recall the video of the young lady watching Murray's statement the first time and I was bursting in tears of laughter. She was priceless.
Imaging Mike would be watching us hammering the keyboards... Embarassed Embarassed affraid

Just the thought that MJ is watching us here, reading our thoughts and findings, and maybe even getting a few laughs because of us, makes all the sleepness nights since 6/25 well worth it.

I just love him more than ever .....

sunny
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Post by CantStopLovingU Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:35 pm

charmed6 wrote:
Rach wrote:I agree with you all that there is not need to panic!

We have known this from the start and when MJHD closed down it only confirmed my suspicions. I just wanted people to know that our work isn't going unnoticed and to be on the look out for anything unusual so we can note it down!

I'm sorry if I scared anyone!



you didn't scare anyone, its just the way I read it, like something out of a horror movie. Hey just a thought, do you guys think that there could be people on the inside. like the media has people signing up posing as people? to get information? confused IDk, if I made any sense. I hope I did! LOL

Of course there is!

I dont doubt that for a minute. Cool

But I did notice when I went back and looked at some of my threads, like the INFORMANT threads and noticed that the thread views are in the thousands.

Rachel, do you keep track of how many people visit the site a day or what we are up to?
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Post by jpresley Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:36 pm

Human_nature wrote:oh...we are watched Wink it's ok for me Wink

And I will say here , I'll not go anywhere, I promised Smile

So ..if someone try to stop me now ( with bullying or whatever), hmmm...they're better to watch their asses !

I'm ready for the storm Basketball

So glad to have you back, Julie!
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Post by Gabriel Walker Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:38 pm

hasil wrote:NEVER let faction 1 scare you...
they try with many manipulations, but dont buy it..
go john lennon on them..or go MJ on them...
:
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Faction 2 have switched off the playlist on Radio F 1.
If those B***ds are watching, let them, Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Love xxxx
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Post by annieisnotokey Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:38 pm

CantStopLovingU wrote:
But I did notice when I went back and looked at some of my threads, like the INFORMANT threads and noticed that the thread views are in the thousands.
Rachel, do you keep track of how many people visit the site a day or what we are up to?

My theory has over 10.000 views!! Should I be happy or scared??? lol!
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Post by aamj07 Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:40 pm

OMG Annie! Maybe a little of both, lol!!
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Post by Rach Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:40 pm

Not really because I am usually busy with other things but I guess I can do. You can see the stats at the bottom of the page as to how many people are on the forum. Oh and if you look at the portal it tells you where people are looking on the forum.

Oh BTW just wanted to add everytime you go back into a thread that counts as someone looking at it so it's not accurate as to how many people have visited it!
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Post by annieisnotokey Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:41 pm

hasil wrote:NEVER let faction 1 scare you...
they try with many manipulations, but dont buy it..
go john lennon on them..or go MJ on them...
:
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I thought faction 1 were the evil ones... Shocked
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