New theory - Is Michael in Vienna?

by Rach Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:13 am

Hey Guys

We have had some great ideas today on chat so I just wanted to start a thread and put all our thought and findings down in one place. Please feel free to add to it as more information comes to light!

Ok so what we already know is that Jermaine has announced a Michael Jackson tribute concert in Vienna (I don't the date so forgive me on that!). My first thought on this was that it seemed odd to hold the concert in Vienna. As far as I know, Michael has no particular ties to Vienna and it would have been more appropriate to hold it in America. Then Hasil posted a very intersting article on how Joe Jackson had bought land in Vienna in 2001. Could this be a tie in and an indication of where Michael is hiding out? Please have a look at the article, it makes for interesting reading. http://www.tol.cz/look/TOL/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrIssue=23&NrSection=18&NrArticle=1192

Then of course, there are the clues and anagrams left behind by JokeCalmsChina. Now I didn't read his posts on MJHD with too much interest because at the time I didn't believe what he was saying. However, many members have pointed out today that some of his clues may be right. He said that something was going to happen in Vienna and at a palace, and isn't that where this tribute concert is to be held? In a palace? He also left clues behind about what we believe to be Jermaine and as we have seen he is the family member who has been very much in the driving seat since all this happened. I mean he has done countless interviews with Larry King and sold his story to pretty much anyone who will pay him. Also his behaviour on Larry King last night was strange. He kept laughing and dodging certain questions and didn't seem like someone who had lost a brother only 6/7 weeks ago.

Anyway I would love to see what other members think so please add to this thread and hopefully we can sort this out once and for all!

by CharlieBarley Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:39 am

I was one of the people earlier today that mentioned JCC. I can't quite remember everything JCC said, but when reading the thread earlier today it rang a bell with me.

I think it may be an idea to look over again at what JCC said. I stay open minded to a lot of what is said on these forums, I never write anyone off as you just never know!

But I remember at the time when JCC was posting I did not feel he/she? had an attention seeking approach, but hey! It can sometimes be hard to tell, but I did not feel it so.

I will now go and see if I can find JCC's post's and have a closer look at your link.

by Guest Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:09 pm

Michael could be there. Its a beautiful magiccal castle.

Just like Michael loves it

by IloveMJ Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:13 pm

I dont know about this JCC guy, I mean he said somthing big would happen Augest 1st and nothing did..

by lifting the veil Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:20 pm

A while back I started to save the one or other thread from the other forum, since it too often happened that threads which I wanted to continue reading the next day have been gone... Neutral

For those of you who want recall what JCC said, here is the link:

https://mjkit.forumotion.net/breaking-news-f3/i-told-you-what-you-think-edit-t181.htm

by CharlieBarley Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:21 pm

Thank you!! That's great! Tried to find in on MJHD site and had no luck.

by EarthAngel90 Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:16 pm

I check out Vienna on my comp .. beautiful country ... I think Michael must be hiding there ... it's really a beautiful country.

by Bitten Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:23 pm

Hi!

I'm new here but have watched your investigation for weeks here and on mjhd. You're so goood. cheers

I was just thinking about the sign language in the o2 announcement.. Some wrote that he didn't show 25 6, but 25 9.. Could that mean something regarding this tribute? I can't remember if I saw the post here or at mjhd. Can't find it. Hope you know what I'm talking about.

by Human_nature Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:28 pm

Bitten wrote:Hi! I'm new here but have watched your investigation for weeks here and on mjhd. You're so goood.
I was just thinking about the sign language in the o2 announcement.. Some wrote that he didn't show 25 6, but 25 9.. Could that mean something regarding this tribute? I can't remember if I saw the post here or at mjhd. Can't find it. Hope you know what I'm talking about.

Hi and welcome Smile

You saw this post here, but I can't remember where it is now , sorry.

One thing I know, michael knew langage sign very well, and he used that several time, in his video too Wink

I'm not very good yet to interpret sign langage, but I learn Smile

by clover Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:30 pm

IloveMJ wrote:I dont know about this JCC guy, I mean he said somthing big would happen Augest 1st and nothing did..

did he actually say something big would happen or just 'August 1', maybe we were just meant to see a news item or interview on that day to learn more? (Not saying i believe in JCC, but we have to keep all our cards on the table!!)

by Human_nature Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:41 pm

clover wrote:
IloveMJ wrote:I dont know about this JCC guy, I mean he said somthing big would happen Augest 1st and nothing did..
did he actually say something big would happen or just 'August 1', maybe we were just meant to see a news item or interview on that day to learn more? (Not saying i believe in JCC, but we have to keep all our cards on the table!!)

I don't think it was a BIG event, so it can be anything Wink

I still take every clues, maybe they're true, maybe not. Nobody really know Wink

by Silence Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:58 pm

IloveMJ wrote:I dont know about this JCC guy, I mean he said somthing big would happen Augest 1st and nothing did..

And as far as I know he did speak of Germany and not Vienna that's why everybody did investigation of the "Schloss Neuschwanstein". There was no word of vienna as far as I can remember but I can be wrong of course.

The reason for Vienna is much simpler I think:

Just about 2 weeks ago Jermaine accepted the "Save The World Award" fpr Mj in Austria. I guess he simplyx was asked there if he could imagine a tribute concert there and agreed.....

by wishful09 Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:59 pm

I was thinking about this last night, after watching the interview. (That interview has me really excited by the way) Anyway, I never payed attention to JCC. I actually did not care too much for him, but I remember being upset by his threads being deleted because there were many members who enjoyed him. So, those clues may very well have been legit. I think Jermaine was hinting at something throughout the entire interview. I guess we have to wait and see.....

by Human_nature Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:08 pm

I posted a "recap" of JCC, I don't tell it's true, but I saved some, so I thought it can be ok as reference if we need to.

https://mjkit.forumotion.net/recap-threads-f9/jcc-recap-just-incase-we-can-find-something-ok-t195.htm

by Sweet1 Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:49 pm

Anything is possible at this point. MJ could be anywhere, but it is more than likely he's in Europe. You can always find a nice secluded, serene place with no people about. I lived in Germany for quite some time and traveled throughout Europe. I am really not concerned about his location. I just hope and pray that he is safe and getting rest that he so needed at this time in his life. He has been under a lot of stress over the decades. I pray for his safety daily. Keep the Faith!

by STARFISH1 Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:30 pm

hm ....... he is a good player
chess-mate king

by ziffes Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:58 pm

i dont know what to say..

by Rach Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:09 pm

I agree with Sweet1 that the most important thing is that Michael is safe and well. However I find it strange that they are doing a tribute to him so soon after his "death". I mean that is basically what the memorial was for so wouldn't a tribute be more appropiate after say a year or so?

by SeeingClues Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:17 pm

Rachel wrote:I agree with Sweet1 that the most important thing is that Michael is safe and well. However I find it strange that they are doing a tribute to him so soon after his "death". I mean that is basically what the memorial was for so wouldn't a tribute be more appropiate after say a year or so?

Especially since he isn't even buried yet!!

by Rach Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:20 pm

Especially since he isn't even buried yet!![/quote]

I know that threw me as well! This is really strange Surprised

by Sweet1 Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:16 pm

Listen, there is nothing strange about this in our eyes. Let's be honest! We know exactly what is going on here? If not, we are definitely close to the answer. My Theory is as follows:

Jermaine (God Bless him!) has been throwing out clues since MJ's death. His only problem is his inconsistencies. He was telling us that the Tribute show will be at a castle in Vienna because MJ loved it there. Excuse me! MJ loved Vegas, Japan, France, Romania and lots of other places as well.. He was going to buy a home in Las Vegas and name it Wonderland. So, that comment made no sense.

Clue: MJ is in Vienna

The Tribute show in September vs. MJ's birthday!

Well! I still say even though they may have planned to have seating capacity for 85,000 that still would not be enough to accommodate everyone that will show up at that show. Everyone is looking to see MJ make a comeback! More than a 500,000 people will be present I predict. Lastly, MJ is a perfectionist and he will need more time to cultivate his comeback performance. The show will undoubtedly happen end of Oct as originally projected.

Clue: Tribute show will have to be moved to another venue because they underestimated the ticket sales. How much do you want to bet that venue will be
02 in London. Unfortunatley, the O2 won't be available until end of Oct. Hence, AEG gets 100 million if not more; ultimately this was the reasoning behind selling MJ's last rehearsal video to Sony so cheap. By the way! the rehearsal video will be released as a movie ( ticket sales) then it will be released on Blu Ray/DVD (more money)

This is my summation of Jermaine's roundabout conversation on LK last night. Also, LK's wife Shawn isn't going to sing. That was so ridiculious. Jermaine heard her singing and didn't realize she had such a high pitch voice. He should have thought up something better to say. LK's wife isn't a professional singer. Why not MJ's female backup singer from his Memorial Service? What an idiot! MJ will be singing that song. Keep the Faith!

by carpenoctem Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:32 pm

Is anybody of you considering to go to vienna for the show?

by Human_nature Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:37 pm

carpenoctem wrote:Is anybody of you considering to go to vienna for the show?

No I can't go there, I'm in Canada and it's too expensive for me sadly... Sad

by Give.In.To.Me Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:39 pm

Human_nature wrote:
carpenoctem wrote:Is anybody of you considering to go to vienna for the show?

No I can't go there, I'm in Canada and it's too expensive for me sadly...

I'm from Canada too, we should car pool lol!

by carpenoctem Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:44 pm

That's funny!!!!

by Human_nature Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:47 pm

Give.In.To.Me wrote:
Human_nature wrote:
carpenoctem wrote:Is anybody of you considering to go to vienna for the show?

No I can't go there, I'm in Canada and it's too expensive for me sadly...

I'm from Canada too, we should car pool

by bec Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:21 pm

Car pool *snork*, pick me up on the way girls. Maybe we can get a group discount.

But seriously, I think that is an interesting theory as to why Sony got the movie rights so cheap.

Do they have a date set for this memorial? Last I saw there was not date listed on the site.

by jpresley Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:38 pm

bec wrote:Car pool *snork*, pick me up on the way girls. Maybe we can get a group discount.

But seriously, I think that is an interesting theory as to why Sony got the movie rights so cheap.

Do they have a date set for this memorial? Last I saw there was not date listed on the site.

Unless something has changed since I last checked, it wasn't Sony who got the movie rights, it was Columbia. Which, if you think about it, makes more sense (and goes along with the hoex theory) because Michael hated Sony. Thoughts?

by Human_nature Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:50 pm

jpresley wrote:
bec wrote:Car pool *snork*, pick me up on the way girls. Maybe we can get a group discount.

But seriously, I think that is an interesting theory as to why Sony got the movie rights so cheap.

Do they have a date set for this memorial? Last I saw there was not date listed on the site.

Unless something has changed since I last checked, it wasn't Sony who got the movie rights, it was Columbia. Which, if you think about it, makes more sense (and goes along with the hoex theory) because Michael hated Sony. Thoughts?

Columbia pictures is owned by Sony

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Pictures

by Pammy Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:41 pm

I dont want to open a new topic for it ...so im gonna add it here:

He was interested in many locations in europe, also possible is ( i wrote that somewhere in another topic on here)

Berlin (germany)http://www.grothgruppe.de/groth_html3/de/vm_vk/gwverk/vkm/fs_vkm.html

North Devon: http://www.tourdates.co.uk/news/12092-michael-jackson-moving-to-devon

http://www.historic-uk.com/StayUK/RentaCastle.htm

for example this one in North Devon http://www.historic-uk.com/StayUK/South-West/Castles/WatermouthCastle.htm

and many more of these amazing castles....

by Banessa Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:50 pm

Sweet1 wrote:Listen, there is nothing strange about this in our eyes. Let's be honest! We know exactly what is going on here? If not, we are definitely close to the answer. My Theory is as follows:

Jermaine (God Bless him!) has been throwing out clues since MJ's death. His only problem is his inconsistencies. He was telling us that the Tribute show will be at a castle in Vienna because MJ loved it there. Excuse me! MJ loved Vegas, Japan, France, Romania and lots of other places as well.. He was going to buy a home in Las Vegas and name it Wonderland. So, that comment made no sense.

Clue: MJ is in Vienna

The Tribute show in September vs. MJ's birthday!

Well! I still say even though they may have planned to have seating capacity for 85,000 that still would not be enough to accommodate everyone that will show up at that show. Everyone is looking to see MJ make a comeback! More than a 500,000 people will be present I predict. Lastly, MJ is a perfectionist and he will need more time to cultivate his comeback performance. The show will undoubtedly happen end of Oct as originally projected.

Clue: Tribute show will have to be moved to another venue because they underestimated the ticket sales. How much do you want to bet that venue will be
02 in London. Unfortunatley, the O2 won't be available until end of Oct. Hence, AEG gets 100 million if not more; ultimately this was the reasoning behind selling MJ's last rehearsal video to Sony so cheap. By the way! the rehearsal video will be released as a movie ( ticket sales) then it will be released on Blu Ray/DVD (more money)

This is my summation of Jermaine's roundabout conversation on LK last night. Also, LK's wife Shawn isn't going to sing. That was so ridiculious. Jermaine heard her singing and didn't realize she had such a high pitch voice. He should have thought up something better to say. LK's wife isn't a professional singer. Why not MJ's female backup singer from his Memorial Service? What an idiot! MJ will be singing that song. Keep the Faith!

I agree w/you 100% on this theory. It makes sense! You have just reassured my hope. Thanks Sweet1

by Rach Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:57 pm

Oh I'm glad you all agree with my theory Smile

Love to all xx Smile

by Sweet1 Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:19 pm

Banessa said:
I agree w/you 100% on this theory. It makes sense! You have just reassured my hope. Thanks Sweet1

Thanks Sweetie,
After giving it some deep spiritual thought this was what I discerned. Jermaine, clearly wanted MJ's fans to know where he was and to discuss the show. I am not sure if anyone heard it but LK and Jermaine did say there were going to be big surprises at the Tribute Show. I wonder what that could be? Aside from the obvious of others in the Music industry performing, I wonder who else will mysteriously show up? MJ of course looking better than anyone could ever imagine dispelling all of those nasty rumours in the media and tabloids. Keep the Faith!

by ziffes Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:34 am

Denmark. but i still don't have the money... besides.. i want to see a MJ show not a show about MJ Sad

by flory24 Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:50 am

jermaine says will be many surprises, if one of those surprises is michael? Question

by Rach Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:25 pm

flory24 wrote:jermaine says will be many surprises, if one of those surprises is michael?

God I hope so! It would shut the whole world up I know that much Smile

by Smelly Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:27 pm

I can imagine Michael popping out from beneath the stage lol

by shirley-grace Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:43 pm

"When Jackson's rested and ready, and pulls the curtain up on his faked death, the world is going to stand still" Jackson watcher William Stern

I can't get this out of my mind!!!!!!

by SeeingClues Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:54 pm

IF MJ is one of the surprises, then I would think they would massively advertise this Tribute to get the world to all watch. It will be interesting to see how they promote this.

by DawneVee Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:18 pm

shirley-grace wrote:"When Jackson's rested and ready, and pulls the curtain up on his faked death, the world is going to stand still" Jackson watcher William Stern

I can't get this out of my mind!!!!!!

I totally agree with this Mr. William Stern fella. jocolor

The world stood still June 25th and July 7th and it's going to stand still again very soon. Are ya ready? bounce

by DawneVee Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:21 pm

Smelly wrote:I can imagine Michael popping out from beneath the stage lol

I hope Michael will make his reappearance singing 'Thriller'. I really don't want to watch anyone else sing his songs to begin with, but this song might make the uh, the ummm...'transition' from being 'dead' to being alive once more, easier...lol. That made no sense I don't think...lol...oh well. Cool

by SeeingClues Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:28 pm

DawneVee wrote:
Smelly wrote:I can imagine Michael popping out from beneath the stage lol

I hope Michael will make his reappearance singing 'Thriller'. I really don't want to watch anyone else sing his songs to begin with, but this song might make the uh, the ummm...'transition' from being 'dead' to being alive once more, easier...lol. That made no sense I don't think...lol...oh well.

It would be the greatest moment in TV history bar none.

by Silence Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:50 pm

DawneVee wrote:
shirley-grace wrote:"When Jackson's rested and ready, and pulls the curtain up on his faked death, the world is going to stand still" Jackson watcher William Stern

I can't get this out of my mind!!!!!!

I totally agree with this Mr. William Stern fella. The world stood still June 25th and July 7th and it's going to stand still again very soon. Are ya ready?

I hope they will not do that hologramm thing there cause we might believe it's for real then....
Can you imagine that they take advantage of the hoax theory and make us believe in a hoax ?

by EarthAngel90 Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:22 pm

Silence wrote:
DawneVee wrote:
shirley-grace wrote:"When Jackson's rested and ready, and pulls the curtain up on his faked death, the world is going to stand still" Jackson watcher William Stern

I can't get this out of my mind!!!!!!

I totally agree with this Mr. William Stern fella. The world stood still June 25th and July 7th and it's going to stand still again very soon. Are ya ready?

I hope they will not do that hologramm thing there cause we might believe it's for real then....
Can you imagine that they take advantage of the hoax theory and make us believe in a hoax ?

I hope they will not use a Hologram & I will give Michael a Standing Ovation and My Undying Love and Support and Say " Yeah Bitches - Michael is Back !!!

by mjjforever72 Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:09 pm

I would love to go but I live in canada also so its way to far for me.

by Pammy Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:32 pm

I really want to go but not alone .... somebody wants to go as well?

by carpenoctem Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:10 pm

Yeah....I don't think i wanna miss this

by Human_nature Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:26 pm

I don't know what this event will be..but like SeeingClue says..in an another topic..if he just appear there alive...we all have cardiac attacks lol!

by mjjforever72 Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:37 pm

by einsof Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:27 pm

Vienna? I think Michael should be very well hidden away somewhere in a country that he never was or who was a few times. But I do not know it would be easy to leave the country without being noticed. I even thought he might be hiding in Encino! lol!

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