Fitting The Pieces Together

illusionist wrote:
I don't think Cassandra nor Derek "what's his name" are apart of this equation. Derek is probably reading the forums, getting ideas. He does this for a living (writing crazy stuff). I seriously don't think he's apart of the hoax, viral marketing or anything like that.

Over on TMZ there has been a person who posts as
the puppet master . Friday night ( a few hours ago ) he started to say
goodbye. He mentioned that he had to leave .

Red Velvet wrote:Maybe we need to be "thrown off" for a while.

Rach wrote:You know I am on a MAJOR paranoira at the moment. I can't shake off the feeling that the forum is being watched and we are being lead down the garden path to throw off us.

I have absoutley no idea what happened to that post this morning. Myself and the other MODs weren't even online to delete it. I have had some very weird things happen to me over the past few days. I don't mean to scare anyone but I think people are trying to tell us to back off.

MJSmile4Us wrote:huh?? could u plz let me know which thread was deleted and what happened to u (should we be worried? )?

Rach wrote:

MJSmile4Us wrote:huh?? could u plz let me know which thread was deleted and what happened to u (should we be worried? )?

A new member posted a topic on here yesterday which was deleted, even though myself and the other MODs weren't online to delete it. I have no idea where it went to. The member also didn't authority to delete it.

There was also a case of PMs that were been deleted but that has now been solved so you don't have to worry about that! I have also been receiving some strange PMs over the last few days as well.

Maybe lack of sleep is getting to me and I am worrying over nothing! You shouldn't be scraed, so please don't worry!

MJSmile4Us wrote:thank u for letting me know and for the reasurrance hope it was a computer glitch or technological problem rather than the result of a hacker..

aww I hope u get more sleep and plz take care of yourself (the problem is this forum is so addictive, lol, and I would like to thank u for doing a wonderful job with this site )

annieisnotokey wrote:Okey, let me see if got it right...

Everything that happened + the clues are part of the movie theory, and eventually everything will be revealed by it

OR

What happened is real BUT the clues are part of someone's sick social experiment?

Is that what you mean?

StenniZ wrote:

annieisnotokey wrote:Okey, let me see if got it right...

Everything that happened + the clues are part of the movie theory, and eventually everything will be revealed by it

OR

What happened is real BUT the clues are part of someone's sick social experiment?

Is that what you mean?

I get the theory, but why would the experiment be 'sick'? What if the experiment were MJ's? e.g. the hoax = the experiment. I think, that if the hoax turns out to be true, it started way back (as in years ago) and all that has happened untill now is part of that hoax/experiment. Or am I misinterpreting something?

illusionist wrote:Before I continue I want to state that I am not here to upset anybody. I am not an insider nor am I a troll. I'm here like most of you...to seek the truth.

I am not the least bit surprised jokecalmschina has said his Last Goodbye. Mission Accomplished. Have we really cracked all his previous clues yet?

Some strange things have taken place in the last 16-18 hours. The forums are not what they seem on the surface. Earlier a new person posted about the forums not being what they appear to be (ie, members with multiple accounts and/or multiple people posing as one member). I'm not sure what happened to these posts, but whoever this new member is maybe correct. In order to keep a hoax going you need some players. It could be one person playing a few different rolls or multiple people playing one roll. Why? As some get closer to the truth you need to keep them one step back. Here comes a troll or an "unbeliever" to rain on your parade. If someone cracks the code too soon - game over. Be aware of red herrings. I tell people this all the time.

Last night I sent jokecalmschina a private message - asking him when we will expect another clue. I have a sneaky suspicion that his farewell message is a clue. That being said, sometime later on into the wee hours of the morning a new post appeared over on Rae's forum.

If you have an account you may login and view it here: http://michaeljacksonhoax.lefora.com/2009/09/25/shall-i-tell-them/page1/#post15016461
If you do not have an account you may view the screenshot of said post here: http://twitpic.com/j4r3g (make sure you click on View full size)

Upon further review, we (meaning me and others over on Rae's forum) discovered a few things. (those apart of this awakening last night please feel free to post your findings here)

First please visit these two websites: http://www.recastreality.org and http://www.sgmt.at/

Whois lookup on recastreality.org belongs to:

Admin Name:Heidrun Beer
Admin Organization:Arbeitskreis fuer mentales Training
Admin Street1:Hackstock 5
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Unterweissenbach
Admin State/Province:AT
Admin Postal Code:4273
Admin Country:AT
Admin Phone:+43.795669441
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+43.795669447
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:info@sgmt.at
Tech Name:Ingo Enders
Tech Organization:ECS-Webhosting
Tech Street1:Volbehrstrasse 11d
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Nuernberg
Tech State/Province:Bavaria
Tech Postal Code:90491
Tech Country:DE
Tech Phone:+49.91159769540
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+49.9115982998
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:info@ecs-webhosting.de


What do you know...Germania comes into play. Again. Remember, Germany is the Key.

Also, the poster's name is Aletheia - Greek term for "the truth" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aletheia

Is this a Rebirth of Truth? http://www.formalontology.it/aletheia.htm
For some reason I keep thinking about MediaHypeAgain's blog http://rebirthoftruth1997.blogspot.com/

Something interesting I found here: http://www.sgmt.at/Comp/Oop.htm

From Object Oriented Programming Principles in the Mind
In the world of object oriented programming, a program object is not a dry and boring collection of code lines, it is very active and nearly alive. It has a name, it occupies a space, it has a certain set of properties (attributes) and a collection of methods (activities). As an example, a program object “flower” would have properties like “color” and “smell”, and methods like “open”, “close”, or “wilt”.

If a programmer wanted to program a flower, he would first describe its properties and methods and then have the flower interact with other program objects. A simple little demo program (no actual programming language is used!) could look like this:

Flower.Color = Yellow

Flower.Smell = None

IF Sun.IsShining THEN

Flower.Open

ELSE

Flower.Close

The flower object looks at a property of the sun object (“IsShining” can be true or false) and then either opens or closes. Haven’t we seen that many times in real life?

If we had to learn actual programming, we would of course need to study for a few months, but for our understanding of the mind’s programming - and, actually, of the inner workings of evolution - it is sufficient to understand four simple concepts.


For some reason the above reminds me of a few of back's posts over on mjjcommunity.com, JCC and a few others. Perhaps it's the wording (ie, IF Sun.IsShining THEN)

Remember the viral marketing campaign behind the movie the Dark Knight? Scores of websites were set up. Scavenger hunts. Clues. Online and off. It was crazy. If you did not know about this please read here: http://www.moviemarketingmadness.com/blog/2008/07/17/movie-marketing-madness-the-dark-knight/

Not sure what viral marketing is? Go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_marketing

This all may fit into the movie theory...or we're someone's social experiment.

If something doesn't make sense or you need further explaination don't hesitate to ask.

I'd like to end this post with a quote by one of my favorite writers, William S. Burroughs:
"A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on"

ilprincipe wrote:

StenniZ wrote:

annieisnotokey wrote:Okey, let me see if got it right...

Everything that happened + the clues are part of the movie theory, and eventually everything will be revealed by it

OR

What happened is real BUT the clues are part of someone's sick social experiment?

Is that what you mean?

I get the theory, but why would the experiment be 'sick'? What if the experiment were MJ's? e.g. the hoax = the experiment. I think, that if the hoax turns out to be true, it started way back (as in years ago) and all that has happened untill now is part of that hoax/experiment. Or am I misinterpreting something?

Hi StenniZ

I suppose I MJ would really be dead it would be sick to play such games with all of us only to get publicity for TTI movie...
I hope we are really not the victims of such a viral marketing campaign....

StenniZ wrote:

ilprincipe wrote:

StenniZ wrote:

annieisnotokey wrote:Okey, let me see if got it right...

Everything that happened + the clues are part of the movie theory, and eventually everything will be revealed by it

OR

What happened is real BUT the clues are part of someone's sick social experiment?

Is that what you mean?

I get the theory, but why would the experiment be 'sick'? What if the experiment were MJ's? e.g. the hoax = the experiment. I think, that if the hoax turns out to be true, it started way back (as in years ago) and all that has happened untill now is part of that hoax/experiment. Or am I misinterpreting something?

Hi StenniZ

I suppose I MJ would really be dead it would be sick to play such games with all of us only to get publicity for TTI movie...
I hope we are really not the victims of such a viral marketing campaign....

Thanks ilprincipe,

I remember thinking (when all of this first started after his 'death'), that it was not MJ who was behind the hoax, but the companies, like Sony and AEG. After a while though I started to lean more to MJ being the man behind the curtain. (perhaps just wishfull thinking and I'm just in denial, who knows). Still, all the contradicting facts, weird occurances and reactions by familymembers and such, still make me lean towards the latter. Thanks though for explaining it. An open mind is very important in all this (imo), so we need to look at both possibilites, whether it's pleasant or not. Keep the faith!

zembla wrote:@ the original poster: interesting findings and conclusions!

I am trying to remember old MJHD being shut down for a while after someone posted WHEN and WHO registered the website. What got people riled up was MJHD admin's background. Her possibly wanting to write a book and using our theories and thoughts. This combined with the date of registering the site. Shortly before or after MJ 'died'.

Also let's not forget how quickly JCC was banned over @ MJHD. Over the course of weeks we have seen several trolls pop up on the forums claiming they are 'in the know'. All JCC did was give us clues. Pretty harmless compared to what the trolls have done on the forums.

Food for thought me thinks...

Rach wrote:Guys, all I will say is that weird things have been happening for a few days now both on and off the forum.

I think we need to keep our eyes open more then ever now. I think some people on here are getting close to the truth and tactics are been put in place to try and throw us off.

Things are going to get interesting and bumpy from now on IMO.

illusionist wrote:
I don't think Cassandra nor Derek "what's his name" are apart of this equation. Derek is probably reading the forums, getting ideas. He does this for a living (writing crazy stuff). I seriously don't think he's apart of the hoax, viral marketing or anything like that.

hAZZELY wrote:Well...what i've heared is that the owner of MJHD: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?p=431 ...was somehow deleting posts to get only what he/she was interested about.. using our topics to make a book??

See the translation with online translator, don't blame me ..



<<< I think most of us are engaged or consulted almost daily page of Michael Jackson Hoax Death. Well, today your forum has been closed. According to the creators, the forum has reached its maximum capacity and has been closed, not being able to post topics and leaving only reading. But if this were so, would be enough to open another.

NEW (05-08-09): provided in the forum by one of our readers:

"Last night when the forum was still active, I saw a tag that said" EVERYBODY LOOK AT THIS NOW ", I thought it would be something of MJ and I entered what appeared was a picture of a google search on the web where he appeared with michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com creation date June 23, 2009 (prior to the death of Michael), then this user to start that topic did some research and found the given name / to "Amy Sampsons" and also looked around on google related to it by what comes out their Facebook, twitter and others. The most surprising is that his biography on twitter say that she is among many things, "writer" that served to speculate and say that she wants to write a book and it would use everything that users post on their forum. All this seems started because a user noticed that much of what he wrote or topics that were deleted or just started disappearing, or that this woman was in charge of eliminating anything that could "change the other's point of view" .

The truth is that when I read it I thought: what will MJHD's administrator do when will discover the topic of this user?, I never thought that they would close the forum, might have removed the tag, but well .... Anyway, thanks to blessed "cache" on my pc, found in the history of the website the user in the topic started "EVERYBODY LOOK AT THIS NOW". >>>>

sunnyscrapper wrote:I just wanted to point out that in regard to the theories I posted about the forums diagram earlier on this thread that I do not necessarily see this as some evil plot to control us. I do believe we are being watched though.

Rather, it might be involved just with the re-branding of Michael Jackson and/or marketing for the film and therefore with a positive motive.

sunnyscrapper wrote:I just wanted to point out that in regard to the theories I posted about the forums diagram earlier on this thread that I do not necessarily see this as some evil plot to control us. I do believe we are being watched though.

Rather, it might be involved just with the re-branding of Michael Jackson and/or marketing for the film and therefore with a positive motive.

spider monkey wrote:that's pretty heavy stuff, illusionist. but you know what, Michael was into these things, too. remember the healing tape he sent Mr Morita in Japan when he was sick? it's about mental conditioning, too. specifically, he sent the Silva Mind tape with the alpha sounds and the affirmations.

Savannah wrote:Thank you for sharing this illusionast. Even though I don't quite understand it all yet, I am going to read your post again and again until I do.

Annie ~ when you asked if "what happened is real", did you mean MJs death???

illusionist wrote:

spider monkey wrote:that's pretty heavy stuff, illusionist. but you know what, Michael was into these things, too. remember the healing tape he sent Mr Morita in Japan when he was sick? it's about mental conditioning, too. specifically, he sent the Silva Mind tape with the alpha sounds and the affirmations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bewu6eio_DE

luvmjalways wrote:I'm still waiting for KO's tweet mentioning that code word!!! Did anyone ever bring it to CGS first? It seems like some questions are starting to disappear. I asked her a question regarding Dr Murray and it's been up for 2 days now it's gone

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:

luvmjalways wrote:I'm still waiting for KO's tweet mentioning that code word!!! Did anyone ever bring it to CGS first? It seems like some questions are starting to disappear. I asked her a question regarding Dr Murray and it's been up for 2 days now it's gone

Im waiting for KO's tweet too. And I have asked CGS about 4 questions...2 from the first day she started it and non eof them have been answered.