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Lisa Marie and Oprah
I never saw this interview before, and really....I don't understand why Lisa Marie was at the "funeral" !!!
And Oprah, b***h all the way too....
Sorry but it's ...
And Oprah, b***h all the way too....
Sorry but it's ...
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thanks for the link ill watch it now
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Thanks Human_nature, I´ve been looking for this, couldn´t find it.
God! What bitches!
God! What bitches!
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Holy ****!
I hate LMP even more! Ahhhh....She's just jelous she didn't received as much love as she wanted from Michael...I'm glad for that...B****!!!
And Oprah...I hope she will burn in hell for her ugly comments and insinuations...
I hate LMP even more! Ahhhh....She's just jelous she didn't received as much love as she wanted from Michael...I'm glad for that...B****!!!
And Oprah...I hope she will burn in hell for her ugly comments and insinuations...
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Everytime she talks about her marriage with MJ it seems she's kinda...apologising for it..."yeah i was young and stupid and i fell inlove with this..."person"..something like that...
I don't get it...we all have relationships that ended badly...but to go in front of the world like that and say that everytime...I don't understand why people do that...
And while on the subject...I was just watching this when I saw your post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72klWTm_FIg
I don't get it...we all have relationships that ended badly...but to go in front of the world like that and say that everytime...I don't understand why people do that...
And while on the subject...I was just watching this when I saw your post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72klWTm_FIg
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I have seen it before but had forgotten about it until now.
LMP - She and MJ were together 13 or 14 years ago. She claims that the marriage was real and that there was love. That would lead to her to attend the September 3rd event.
Oprah - She was pushing up her ratings by even having LMP on the show. Ratings ratings ratings...nothing more.
LMP - She and MJ were together 13 or 14 years ago. She claims that the marriage was real and that there was love. That would lead to her to attend the September 3rd event.
Oprah - She was pushing up her ratings by even having LMP on the show. Ratings ratings ratings...nothing more.
Human_nature wrote:I never saw this interview before, and really....I don't understand why Lisa Marie was at the "funeral" !!!
And Oprah, b***h all the way too....
Sorry but it's ...
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ugh how upsetting would that have been to michael
such an influential person like oprah was insulting him on national television
even though it wasnt direct insults, it would have hurt him
:-(
such an influential person like oprah was insulting him on national television
even though it wasnt direct insults, it would have hurt him
:-(
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for just a moment can we focus on MICHAEL JACKSON and his love??
MJ was betrayed by just about everybody in his entourage, we know all that. from lawyers, to managers, from journalists to his own FAMILY. there is however one entity that NEVER betrayed him, stood by him either physically or morally, in the most difficult times in his life.
the one ENTITY that continue to love and support him no matter what happened in the past, no matter what happens in the future. MICHAEL JACKSON knows that this ENTITY loves him unconditionally and this ENTITY never wanted anything in return, still do not want anything in return for it's undying love for HIM.
this ENTITY is US the fans, may we be young or old, new fans or old fans.
we are an ENTITY, we come together as one when it comes to MICHAEL JACKSON.
we the fans, this ENTITY, should be recognized worldwide and as an ENTITY, faithfull and trusting and loving, we should have a the right to say to the world what we feel, what we would like to do. we are not better off hearing speaches from "celebrities" or others.
this entity needs a spokesman to stand up for us in front of the world and be recognized as a part of MICHAEL JACKSON'S life. for we have always been there for HIM and he has always known that and still knows it to this day that we will always be there for him no matter what.
MJ was betrayed by just about everybody in his entourage, we know all that. from lawyers, to managers, from journalists to his own FAMILY. there is however one entity that NEVER betrayed him, stood by him either physically or morally, in the most difficult times in his life.
the one ENTITY that continue to love and support him no matter what happened in the past, no matter what happens in the future. MICHAEL JACKSON knows that this ENTITY loves him unconditionally and this ENTITY never wanted anything in return, still do not want anything in return for it's undying love for HIM.
this ENTITY is US the fans, may we be young or old, new fans or old fans.
we are an ENTITY, we come together as one when it comes to MICHAEL JACKSON.
we the fans, this ENTITY, should be recognized worldwide and as an ENTITY, faithfull and trusting and loving, we should have a the right to say to the world what we feel, what we would like to do. we are not better off hearing speaches from "celebrities" or others.
this entity needs a spokesman to stand up for us in front of the world and be recognized as a part of MICHAEL JACKSON'S life. for we have always been there for HIM and he has always known that and still knows it to this day that we will always be there for him no matter what.
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Oh man, I really hate them both, they are talking like Michael had no right to love. I can't believe that everyone betrayed him. These ppl have no heart.... If I would've been his friend I would not have asked for anything in return, except his respect and love. What more do these ppl want?! This is really frustrating!
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Lisa Maria really loved Michael??? Ehh, if you love someone, you live with them, you live for them, you dont leave them, when it gets tuff.. No matter what.. If it is true love, you do what you can to help that person..
Why are they doing this to him?? Why does everyone betray him? That makes me sick
If anyone has the right to love its Michael
Why are they doing this to him?? Why does everyone betray him? That makes me sick
If anyone has the right to love its Michael
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Well, LMP is such a sour grape. She feels bitter because she couln't manipulate Michael and she had the nerve to say she was manipulated into the relationship. For certain, she need Michael to boost her life up and she got ditched because the most important thing to Michael(children) she couldn't give.
Michael is such a good human being, never backstabbed LMP. Oprah is sooo jealous of Michael on how resilient he is, and how he never gives up no matter how people put him down. And Michael is a multi-millionaire while Oprah...well, some news came out about her loans but I just can't remember when.
Michael is such a good human being, never backstabbed LMP. Oprah is sooo jealous of Michael on how resilient he is, and how he never gives up no matter how people put him down. And Michael is a multi-millionaire while Oprah...well, some news came out about her loans but I just can't remember when.
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This is just my take on the situation...unfortunately, for Michael, that LMP was in it to convert him to Scientology. Please don't jump on me, to each his own, BUT, that religion is very money oriented. It was odd that she was happily married to Danny Keough and then they were quickly divorced and she is immediately married to Michael. I've read somewhere, I can't remember where, but if I find it I will send a link, that the powers that be in the Scientology Church had her do it.
With that being said, I think Michael did love her, but she took advantage of that. I don't have much respect for her and it breaks my heart that he was betrayed. She, I believe, had no intention of staying married to him or having children with him from the very get go.
I'll try and find more about this subject and post it later.
I'm not trying to be a Negative Nelly about LMP, I just think there was more to her involvement with Michael than "love". Nobody deserves that.
Peace
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With that being said, I think Michael did love her, but she took advantage of that. I don't have much respect for her and it breaks my heart that he was betrayed. She, I believe, had no intention of staying married to him or having children with him from the very get go.
I'll try and find more about this subject and post it later.
I'm not trying to be a Negative Nelly about LMP, I just think there was more to her involvement with Michael than "love". Nobody deserves that.
Peace
M.A.D.
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I used to think Oprah was great (maybe wrongly so, maybe I haven't known all the facts about her as I live in the uk and many of you USA members don't like her and must know something!) anyway, I now see just how nasty she can be (imho!), surely she should be proud of MJ's success as a fellow American.
LMP is just trying to make excuses, because she is now embarrassed by the marriage, and is turning something that was probably quite lovely into something sordid!
LMP is just trying to make excuses, because she is now embarrassed by the marriage, and is turning something that was probably quite lovely into something sordid!
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Love and hate are really close related...
BTW she is admidding to a mistake because people say it was a mistake...
Like she wants to say yeah you guys were right, never shoud I have done that because the public wants her to say that.
And Oprah is totally provoking her by the way she is asking her questions...
You know what I mean, like saying what were you thinking...and the expression on the face of Oprah...she expects Lisa Marie to say it is a mistake...
Lisa Marie just wants to be liked by the public and Oprah sees that in her, and asks her questions in that manner.......
Sorry for the long post, but do you understand what I mean...
BTW she is admidding to a mistake because people say it was a mistake...
Like she wants to say yeah you guys were right, never shoud I have done that because the public wants her to say that.
And Oprah is totally provoking her by the way she is asking her questions...
You know what I mean, like saying what were you thinking...and the expression on the face of Oprah...she expects Lisa Marie to say it is a mistake...
Lisa Marie just wants to be liked by the public and Oprah sees that in her, and asks her questions in that manner.......
Sorry for the long post, but do you understand what I mean...
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As private people I can't say anything about either LMP or Oprah as I haven't met them, however as public figures they portray themselves not so positive. Especially Oprah is playing a very creepy game, and not only in the case of MJ. I have tried to watch some of her shows, just to understand what all the fuss is about and why she is top listed among the celebs making the biggest money and honestly, the way her show evolves around her, it makes me really sick, it's way too slimy.
She uses the guests in her shows for own benefit, to show how "good" she is. She always stimulates an interview in a certain direction just to get higher ratings and higher ratings mean money in the bank. Just pay attention how often she pulls any interview to herself....I this and I that....always talking first person and she always gets a very proud smirk on her face when the (sorry to say: extremely stupid) audience starts cheering, applauding and wooo'ing after she has made some comment/remark. She pays (sometimes) attention to charity.....but not for the sake of charity, but to win people's hearts. Anyone who really sincerely embraces any charity, does that preferably in silence. Luckily there are many buttons on a remote and certainly one of those buttons is being pressed when I see Oprah. It'd even be better to watch nothing and toss my over sized flatscreen out of the window than to watch Oprah if that'd the only thing left to watch on TV.
She uses the guests in her shows for own benefit, to show how "good" she is. She always stimulates an interview in a certain direction just to get higher ratings and higher ratings mean money in the bank. Just pay attention how often she pulls any interview to herself....I this and I that....always talking first person and she always gets a very proud smirk on her face when the (sorry to say: extremely stupid) audience starts cheering, applauding and wooo'ing after she has made some comment/remark. She pays (sometimes) attention to charity.....but not for the sake of charity, but to win people's hearts. Anyone who really sincerely embraces any charity, does that preferably in silence. Luckily there are many buttons on a remote and certainly one of those buttons is being pressed when I see Oprah. It'd even be better to watch nothing and toss my over sized flatscreen out of the window than to watch Oprah if that'd the only thing left to watch on TV.
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Make.A.Difference wrote:This is just my take on the situation...unfortunately, for Michael, that LMP was in it to convert him to Scientology. Please don't jump on me, to each his own, BUT, that religion is very money oriented. It was odd that she was happily married to Danny Keough and then they were quickly divorced and she is immediately married to Michael. I've read somewhere, I can't remember where, but if I find it I will send a link, that the powers that be in the Scientology Church had her do it.
With that being said, I think Michael did love her, but she took advantage of that. I don't have much respect for her and it breaks my heart that he was betrayed. She, I believe, had no intention of staying married to him or having children with him from the very get go.
I'll try and find more about this subject and post it later.
I'm not trying to be a Negative Nelly about LMP, I just think there was more to her involvement with Michael than "love". Nobody deserves that.
Peace
M.A.D.
I know and I agree about Scientology.
Fortunatly, they begin to talk more about this cult and the groups "Anonymous" expose the truth.
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"Holy mother of God"? Heifer, you need to consider yourself LUCKY that you ever got close to Michael Jackson! UGHH!! I stopped the video 3:37 into it because the hate and jealousy that was just emanating from LMP, Oprah, and her ridiculous audience was making me sick. How dare they???? Im mad now.
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Manipulation because he called her first and wanted to discuss everything with the woman he was in love with? Yeah what a terrible thing of Michael for wanting to share his doubts and fears with a friend. LMP is obviously seeking for showbizz redemption by explaining her marriage to Michael. What is wrong with her trying to explain herself to a ignorant bunch. If they don't understand your relationship with him..THEIR LOSS! You don't have to bash someone so other people (the audience who are not even part of your life to begin with) will understand. How terrible must it have been for Michael that every friend he lost went to the media for some cheap laughs. Disgusting. And Oprah ..No words for that shallow cow. I can't believe how someone talking about spirituality and sincerity all damn day is the most unspiritual and unsincere person out there. The reason LSM spoke out after his death is probably because she felt guilty and she should!
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I am not surprised my LMP. I didn't think she really cared about MJ when they were married. It was so obvious to me. Now, to say that he manipulated her into marriage. What a cope out. Oprah! I can't believe that she tried to make uncanny remarks about MJ. I understand her trying to boost her ratings and stay on top but at MJ's expense and his character. MJ is a very kind hearted man. He has never done anything to anyone his entire life. The way he was treated by everyone makes me want to vomit. It's deplorable. I still can't get over Oprah trying to come off as though she is so for everyone. If she and LMP didn't have anything good to say about MJ they should have kept their mouths shut. Neither of them are very wise! Keep the Faith!
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It's like Oprah is taking out the fact that she was sexually abused as a child on MJ. Her outlook on him since the first molestation case has changed and instead of her giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying "You know what, Michael is a wealthy man and people will make up lies at any cost to get to his money. I will not fall for this" She goes along with the rest of the world and assumes he's guilty. She met this man in person! She knew he was a sweetheart who wouldn't hurt a soul, especially not a child but yet she believes all the media lies. Oprah is just as closeminded as the rest.
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Rudeness rudeness...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!she really gets on my nerves...to me, she seems so conceited!! the rest, I don't even want to get started on
oh and oprah is soooo 2-faced!!!
there..im done now!LOL
oh and oprah is soooo 2-faced!!!
there..im done now!LOL
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I absolutely agree with all this, as an mj fan for 27 yrs the world is making me sick at mo! one thing mj has more of than anyone else is loyal fans i think its about time we stepped up here and reminded the world of that.....somehow....ezzramj wrote:for just a moment can we focus on MICHAEL JACKSON and his love??
MJ was betrayed by just about everybody in his entourage, we know all that. from lawyers, to managers, from journalists to his own FAMILY. there is however one entity that NEVER betrayed him, stood by him either physically or morally, in the most difficult times in his life.
the one ENTITY that continue to love and support him no matter what happened in the past, no matter what happens in the future. MICHAEL JACKSON knows that this ENTITY loves him unconditionally and this ENTITY never wanted anything in return, still do not want anything in return for it's undying love for HIM.
this ENTITY is US the fans, may we be young or old, new fans or old fans.
we are an ENTITY, we come together as one when it comes to MICHAEL JACKSON.
we the fans, this ENTITY, should be recognized worldwide and as an ENTITY, faithfull and trusting and loving, we should have a the right to say to the world what we feel, what we would like to do. we are not better off hearing speaches from "celebrities" or others.
this entity needs a spokesman to stand up for us in front of the world and be recognized as a part of MICHAEL JACKSON'S life. for we have always been there for HIM and he has always known that and still knows it to this daythat we will always be there for him no matter what.
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i cant stand oprah or lmp after this,they act like to even be associated with michael was BENEATH them well the way i see it,LMP is ONLY riding on her fathers name and fame she has NO TALENT in my opinion never has had.as for oprah,well rah,rah,if it hadnt been for michael bustin down doors and making things possible,she possibly WOULDNT be where she is today.and talk about fakeness now i REALLY question her show regarding michael AFTER his "death" and i question how REAL lisa's myspace blog was.seems odd that when they needed michael to boost her ratings or push lisa's popularity,he was there,THEY USED HIM any way you look at it. and if this is the way lisa treats someone when she loves them,i wouldnt want to be her enemy.all michael was looking for was unconditional love,i am not saying he was perfect, NO ONE IS,however,i think real love withstands whatever the other is going thru and doesnt judge them,no matter how bad things look or get. i cant stand either one of them,and hope michael is watching and remembering and taking notes on who he can REALLY trust.
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I am about to watch this-I had heard LMP did an Oprah interview where O was about as nice as Sawyer was towards Jackson in her interview with LMP....O msde it pretty clear without saying it plain that she thought he was guilty AFTER he died. I thought that was sad because she is like sooo powerful (or ppl presume that she is) she could have had influence in helping Mike ,but she CHOSE not to. Another thing LMP blogged on June 25th-very upset. I think she put herself on a guilt trip b/c she was not nice after the divorce. She knows if she was wrong and is probably punishing herself. Not to pass judgement but I have always believed she probably just didnt get everything she wanted in that marriage or any of her others. It did hurt me to hear what Michael said about that situation on the tapes in the dateline special. I dont like Oprah and never have-she seems to think she is superior to everyone...so I don't know how she can have say so in who she thinks is narcissistic(I saw a man on her show once who was talking about narcissism and how MJ was supreme among them)
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luvmjalways wrote:It's like Oprah is taking out the fact that she was sexually abused as a child on MJ. Her outlook on him since the first molestation case has changed and instead of her giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying "You know what, Michael is a wealthy man and people will make up lies at any cost to get to his money. I will not fall for this" She goes along with the rest of the world and assumes he's guilty. She met this man in person! She knew he was a sweetheart who wouldn't hurt a soul, especially not a child but yet she believes all the media lies. Oprah is just as closeminded as the rest.
Now, I will share something very personal, but it's for a good cause so..
I've been sexually abused by my uncle when I was a kid. It's something I will always live with.
But I still love Michael and believe him, because :
I can read and listen , so I know he's not guilty of anything.
Also, for people who think he paid J.Chandler father because he was guilty, they are ignorants.
It's more than clear it was the parent who wanted MONEY and those kids had to obey to their sick parents.
As a fan now, because the reasons I wrote above are easy to see for everybody who just take time to understand the situation.
So, as a fan, I know Michael's love for children was FAR than sexual. It's something very sweet and innocent. We can see inside his soul when we look in his eyes. I can see ALOT of scars in his soul, alot of sadness..and more. But I can't see a phedophile, no way !
ok, enough said about that. But I have to share, because Oprah's judgements are not justified. She try to tell she's a smart woman, well, she need to revise some little things in her life.
And let me tell you, she's friend with Tom Cruise, and I will tell you, Tom cruise he's the devil. Scientology KILLED people, and it's a FACT. So, if she need to cut link with someone and talk out loud about something wrong, she need to talk against Scientology.
Not talk against Michael for things he NEVER done.
woohaa..ok, sorry..I guess I really had to tell something
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I´m sorry to hear that Human_nature. I was going to write the same thing: just because you´ve been abused doesn´t mean you have the "right" to judge anyone who is accused of it and it doesn´t mean you KNOW that Michael did something to those children. I was afraid that if I´d say it someone might take offence, someone who has been through something like that. Oprah is VERY ignorant, she really chooses to believe it. Why? That I don´t know.
Hugs to you...
Hugs to you...
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@ Human-Nature ...you just rocked my face off!
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Human Nature I am sorry to hear about that. You would think that if Oprah experienced something like that as a child she would be more careful before she accused someone without provocation. She was just going along with media lies calling MJ a pedophile. I don't care for her at all. I don't even watch her show. She needs to retire. You would think if nothing else she would be able to identify with MJ because he was also black and started from humble beginnings. But you know something she comes off as so spiritual and upright. As far as I am concerned she is one of Satan's own. Keep the Faith!
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warning, more disgusting stuff here....
I need to share I'm too angry !
I need to share I'm too angry !
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I don't care much for any of them.
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@Human_Nature It takes a lot of courage to do what you just did. And I must say, I think you are one brave lady! Lots of hugs
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My biggest disappointment with Oprah is her insensitivity toward other celebrities who have fought the tabloid media.
For many years Oprah has battled the tabloids who criticized her weight, her looks and her relationships. The tabloids have been cruel to Oprah over the years and have treated her like a punching bag.
LMP is well known because of her father and ex husband. Nothing more beyond that.
For many years Oprah has battled the tabloids who criticized her weight, her looks and her relationships. The tabloids have been cruel to Oprah over the years and have treated her like a punching bag.
LMP is well known because of her father and ex husband. Nothing more beyond that.
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When was this interview?! It makes me so freaking ANGRY!
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MJsSuperflyPYT wrote:@Human_Nature It takes a lot of courage to do what you just did. And I must say, I think you are one brave lady! Lots of hugs
Thanks
Michael has alot of courage
Peace & love
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Well! Let's face it! Both Oprah and LMP and Presilla are all miserable in their own lives. People that are miserable love to rail down other others to make themselves feel better. LMP will never have fame. Presilla has a has ole' has been and Oprah only has her friend Gayle and her dogs. Enough said. They're all miserable. MJ has more tact, class, and he's a gentleman. They will all get their just reward in the end. Keep the Faith!
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@Human_Nature, first off, I have to say that I love how when you watch that video from your message, your profile picture of Michael is glaring at Lisa and Oprah like "Oh, you nasty witch, I know you didn't..." Cracks me up.
On Oprah...she is a nasty witch when it comes to MIchael Jackson, and i think it was just flat out jealousy. He is one of the only people in the world more famous than her. I think she hates that. I've never liked Oprah. If anyone has a messianic complex it's her. She really thinks she should be able to tell people how to live their lives...
On Lisa...I have a soft spot in my heart for Lisa Marie. I'm into astrology and she reminds me of most Aquarians I've ever known. Very honest (to a fault), incapable of hiding their thoughts, impulsive, ditzy in a clever way, a little unemotional...I think she answers the questions honestly. I don't get the feeling that she is trying to lie to make him look bad. I think she was truly hurt in the relationship. I don't think she acts like she hates him or anything, but was confused by him more than anything else. I can't hate on Lisa Marie. If Michael loved her, she must be a good person at heart, I have to think. (And what was an Aquarian thinking, marrying a Virgo anyway?)
On Oprah...she is a nasty witch when it comes to MIchael Jackson, and i think it was just flat out jealousy. He is one of the only people in the world more famous than her. I think she hates that. I've never liked Oprah. If anyone has a messianic complex it's her. She really thinks she should be able to tell people how to live their lives...
On Lisa...I have a soft spot in my heart for Lisa Marie. I'm into astrology and she reminds me of most Aquarians I've ever known. Very honest (to a fault), incapable of hiding their thoughts, impulsive, ditzy in a clever way, a little unemotional...I think she answers the questions honestly. I don't get the feeling that she is trying to lie to make him look bad. I think she was truly hurt in the relationship. I don't think she acts like she hates him or anything, but was confused by him more than anything else. I can't hate on Lisa Marie. If Michael loved her, she must be a good person at heart, I have to think. (And what was an Aquarian thinking, marrying a Virgo anyway?)
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I like Lisa Marie as a music artist and I believe what she says;however I think it is seen ONLY from her perspective and I think that perspective is tainted by her mother. Priscilla has a comples that any man that gets close to them just wants to latch on to their name. Michael did not need to mirror his life after Elvis and Neverland was nothing like Graceland.
If Lisa felt the need to save Michael then it was doomed from the start. I personally don't think she absolutely had to come off like she made the worst mistake of her life in every single interview she held thereafter ( "O holy mother of god-yeah I dont know what I was thinking) all said while every interviewer sat there and bashed Michael in his weirdness and supposed questionable sexuality. I feel very deeply that she is regretting it now and that is why I cannot hate on her either...we all make mistakes and we all choose the wrong people to trust.
I do not like Oprah-she always seems to take on an air that she is more superior than anyone else-and yes she did proclaim that she was the spiritual advisor on a global level. Yes she has a Messiah complex....and she turns me off because she is open to every form of "spirituality" except for Christianity and Judaism.
If Lisa felt the need to save Michael then it was doomed from the start. I personally don't think she absolutely had to come off like she made the worst mistake of her life in every single interview she held thereafter ( "O holy mother of god-yeah I dont know what I was thinking) all said while every interviewer sat there and bashed Michael in his weirdness and supposed questionable sexuality. I feel very deeply that she is regretting it now and that is why I cannot hate on her either...we all make mistakes and we all choose the wrong people to trust.
I do not like Oprah-she always seems to take on an air that she is more superior than anyone else-and yes she did proclaim that she was the spiritual advisor on a global level. Yes she has a Messiah complex....and she turns me off because she is open to every form of "spirituality" except for Christianity and Judaism.
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I have to agree.. Yes people DO make mistakes.. But not over and over and over again... I think Lisa made this mistake WAY to much... She trashed him several times... While Michael NEVER did that..
Presilla said Lisa was to young, because she was only 16.. Well, she is the wrong Person to say that. She was only 14 when she met Elvis.. If I remember correctly.
Although I do believe Michael and Lisa married for love, but for her to trash Michael like that, made all recpect I ever had for her, to fly right out the window..
Michael is a gentleman.. His private life is NOBODYS Buisness, that is why I dont like that.
For me Lisa`s way to trash Michael WAS not a mistake, when she did it over and over again, if you ask me.
Presilla said Lisa was to young, because she was only 16.. Well, she is the wrong Person to say that. She was only 14 when she met Elvis.. If I remember correctly.
Although I do believe Michael and Lisa married for love, but for her to trash Michael like that, made all recpect I ever had for her, to fly right out the window..
Michael is a gentleman.. His private life is NOBODYS Buisness, that is why I dont like that.
For me Lisa`s way to trash Michael WAS not a mistake, when she did it over and over again, if you ask me.
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I too am sorry Human Nature to hear about your childhood. I hate child rapist/molesters and I think they should rot UNDERNEATH prison cells forever. I hope that you have found peace in your heart and in your life.
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MagicAngel wrote:I have to agree.. Yes people DO make mistakes.. But not over and over and over again... I think Lisa made this mistake WAY to much... She trashed him several times... While Michael NEVER did that..
Presilla said Lisa was to young, because she was only 16.. Well, she is the wrong Person to say that. She was only 14 when she met Elvis.. If I remember correctly.
Although I do believe Michael and Lisa married for love, but for her to trash Michael like that, made all recpect I ever had for her, to fly right out the window..
Michael is a gentleman.. His private life is NOBODYS Buisness, that is why I dont like that.
For me Lisa`s way to trash Michael WAS not a mistake, when she did it over and over again, if you ask me.
Oh yeah I can see that-thats what I meant when I referred to her doing this over and over-I know she got ASKED over and over "Why did you marry MJ" an dshe always answered with the same disdainful attitude with which they asked her. It was'nt right and she did not have to even answer. She seemed to team up on their side. It is like she said when she blgged on June 25th-that through the years she had been indifferant and acted pretty much like it didnt happen or didnt matter. Yes I believe Priscilla was 14 when she married Elvis-or at least dated him. I may have that wrong. I really couldnt believe she acted like Michael was mirroring his image with a fine manipulative thread after Elvis though. That was wrong-and apparently it was UNTRUE about him wanting HER kids otherwise he would not have married a virtually unknown person and had children whom he kept hidden for most of their lives...now who are the narcissists?
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Re: Lisa Marie and Oprah
bibi wrote:Rudeness rudeness...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!she really gets on my nerves...to me, she seems so conceited!! the rest, I don't even want to get started on
oh and oprah is soooo 2-faced!!!
there..im done now!LOL
Oprah is very much two faced yes...EVERY time she has had someone on her show and mJ comes up she goes back to her legendary interview with him and makes little remarks about what she thought. Then she turned around with a half hearted attempt at honoring him and showed that same interview a few weeks ago. It is a great interview but I have always resented the fact that she was there! She was there and she saw! And she is the most powerful woman in show business and as of late sways opinion in politics; still somehow she did not seem to find a way to ever come to his aid or support him in the years following that interview.
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Re: Lisa Marie and Oprah
She was so lucky to even be his wife in the first place - LMP came a b***h automatically in my eyes - I don't know why M.J. Married her in the first place & don't get me started on his other wife - seriously Oprah can't talk shit - she never been married & has a very close friend *cough - cough* - No man in site & never had children at all .... she can't tell anyone to do something - she needs to get a man & a get a life (or what is left of it ....)*HAHAHAHA*..... Funny ......
this interview is bogus & bullshit all the way - seriously , Oprah - had nothing better to do than bring old bullshit from the past - Past is Past - let it go - LMP shouldn't had show up to the "Funeral" in the first place - I am though talking.
this interview is bogus & bullshit all the way - seriously , Oprah - had nothing better to do than bring old bullshit from the past - Past is Past - let it go - LMP shouldn't had show up to the "Funeral" in the first place - I am though talking.
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I think she was lying. I thought MJ and Lisa were separated in 1999,
his former bodyguard said that. And clearly there is a video about her
and MJ kissing in front of Restaurant in LA in 1999 and following MJ to
South Africa. But few minutes ago I saw a video of my friend, a rare
pic of MJ and Lisa. Clearly those pic were taken after 1999. One of
those I even sure were taken in 2003.
In 2003 Lisa had an interview with Newsweek :
2,5 years?? She moved to Neverland in 1993 and still kissing him in 1999. So?? Am I miscounting??
And yeah, once my friend told me an article about Nicolas Cage and his
divorce. Nic said to the interviewer : "It's because I'm not a single
gloved." He refused to go deeper but made it clear enough that it was
because Lisa is still hooked up with MJ.
In my opinion : I though Lisa was in Love with MJ. It was very clear. She was too attached (with MJ?Who's not?
), even after her divorce. But I gotta feeling that she was ashamed to
admit that in front of pubic. You know, its gonna be much easier for
her to said she was manipulated, she was stupid, she was young, its a
mistake. Rather than said that Yes I was deeply in love with him. But
he wanted a children, and my Mom couldn't accept the fact that she
would be a granny from black lil children. So, I keep taking pregnancy
pills and He found out than we split up.
For me it's like she was afraid that the world gonna portray her as an freak like what they did to MJ.
his former bodyguard said that. And clearly there is a video about her
and MJ kissing in front of Restaurant in LA in 1999 and following MJ to
South Africa. But few minutes ago I saw a video of my friend, a rare
pic of MJ and Lisa. Clearly those pic were taken after 1999. One of
those I even sure were taken in 2003.
In 2003 Lisa had an interview with Newsweek :
You married Michael at 26. You seemed miffed that people didn't
believe the marriage was real. Now can you understand why everyone
thought it was weird?
Absolutely! But at the time I
was like, "What the f--- is the problem? Why am I getting all this bad
press? They think I married him because I want to be a singer or I want
publicity? All I ever did prior to the marriage was stay the hell away
from that!" It took me a while to realize that maybe he manipulated
stories or did things for public reasons, and that I was getting
dragged into it. I can see that now.
Do you think he was truly invested in the marriage?
I can't say what his intentions were with me, but I can say it was the
most real thing I think he's had. My mother was like, "Timing--hello!
Wakey, wakey!" But I rebelled against my mom, of course, and tried
really hard not to think like that, not to believe that. "This person is one of the biggest entertainers out there. He is not
stupid. He's very charming when he wants to be, and when you go into
his world you step into this whole other realm. I could tell you all
about the craziness--all these things that were odd, different, evil or
not cool--but it still took me two and a half years to get my head out
of it."
2,5 years?? She moved to Neverland in 1993 and still kissing him in 1999. So?? Am I miscounting??
And yeah, once my friend told me an article about Nicolas Cage and his
divorce. Nic said to the interviewer : "It's because I'm not a single
gloved." He refused to go deeper but made it clear enough that it was
because Lisa is still hooked up with MJ.
In my opinion : I though Lisa was in Love with MJ. It was very clear. She was too attached (with MJ?Who's not?
), even after her divorce. But I gotta feeling that she was ashamed to
admit that in front of pubic. You know, its gonna be much easier for
her to said she was manipulated, she was stupid, she was young, its a
mistake. Rather than said that Yes I was deeply in love with him. But
he wanted a children, and my Mom couldn't accept the fact that she
would be a granny from black lil children. So, I keep taking pregnancy
pills and He found out than we split up.
For me it's like she was afraid that the world gonna portray her as an freak like what they did to MJ.
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I've read and seen all the LMP interviews about MJ. I myself find nothing wrong with them. SHE afterall is the one who was married and lived with the man, not the fans. Who is to say she wasn't telling the truth in her own way? If what she says doesn't "appeal" to some or meet their "standards", then perhaps they shouldn't watch the interviews in the first place.
I'm sorry, I just don't get why the slightest "negativity" about MJ upsets so many??
Just my two cents..........
I'm sorry, I just don't get why the slightest "negativity" about MJ upsets so many??
Just my two cents..........
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I don´t know what went down in MJs and LMPs marriage, and that is none of my business. I just don´t like how she´s "apologizing" for being in love with him now, for having married him. Wth? If she loved him, even if she doesn´t do it anymore, she should keep her mouth shut on that now.
And Oprah...? I hope MJ knew she wasn´t really a friend. Because I read they were so "great" friends...yeah. In my opinion she´s directing the interview just to hear sth negative about Michael. Ratings..(as mentioned above).
And Oprah...? I hope MJ knew she wasn´t really a friend. Because I read they were so "great" friends...yeah. In my opinion she´s directing the interview just to hear sth negative about Michael. Ratings..(as mentioned above).
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GirlInTheMirror1 wrote:I don´t know what went down in MJs and LMPs marriage, and that is none of my business. I just don´t like how she´s "apologizing" for being in love with him now, for having married him. Wth? If she loved him, even if she doesn´t do it anymore, she should keep her mouth shut on that now.
And Oprah...? I hope MJ knew she wasn´t really a friend. Because I read they were so "great" friends...yeah. In my opinion she´s directing the interview just to hear sth negative about Michael. Ratings..(as mentioned above).
Yeah I also read in of those little nothing "tribute magazines" that O supported him during that first trial and they were good friends..not true. Even O said
(as only she can ) that they were not friends-she never considered him a friend and maybe she could have been his friend but chose not to.
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Re: Lisa Marie and Oprah
I neither like or dislike LMP but it is not nice to discuss your marriage in an interview like this, it is a privete matter and should remain so. It seems to me that maybe the marriage was to boost her career which has never taken off, maybe she wanted to be as famous as her Father and Michael-I am not sure of this but I did read in several articles at the time that her and Michael did not even live together in their marriage. And Operah-well I think she sould be gagged permanently!!!
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I second that!! I have never been a big Oprah fan and now I can't stand her!!
And Operah-well I think she sould be gagged permanently!!!
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Of course it isn't nice to discuss your marriage and personal life in front of millions on TV. Is that not what an interview is? I would imagine you are at the "mercy" of the host asking the questions to begin with.
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Priscilla has chosen in some of her interviews to sit there and not answer questions..I have seen Janet say during interviews that she would "rather not discuss her brother" and sometimes had to say it more than once. It can be done-I could understand maybe once or twice-but like Oprah asked her about the sex-AND I KNOW OPRAH saw that stupid question answered on every other interview just like we all did.
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