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Post by parakeet on Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:37 am



Hi,

look what I found:





Webpage:
http://www.this-is-not-it.com/


Very interesting AND disturbing THIS IS NOT IT MOVEMENT Icon_sad
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Post by Jubilee on Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:19 am

This is horrible Sad But remember he is alive and well, autopsy results reveal he was in general good health when he 'passed'.

I think if you're a fan you're either believing he was forced into killing himself (not suicide but just by pressure) or this is all a hoax... xxxx
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:32 am

Even knowing that Michael is alive I couldn't finish watching this. It hurts to much to even think about.
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:40 am

I hate to think what they're saying is true. But they're right about one thing...if Michael is gone the souls of his fans really will never heal. Sad
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Post by juliet on Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:42 am

JUBILEE, I can't say thank you for the vid because it turned my insides out. Whoever made that vid really wants to put Michael's fans down. He is basing everything on his presumptions. If people want to go and watch the movie, that's their prerogative.
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:54 am

Nothing will heal my soul or unbreak my heart if this is true
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Post by Jubilee on Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:00 am

juliet wrote:JUBILEE, I can't say thank you for the vid because it turned my insides out. Whoever made that vid really wants to put Michael's fans down. He is basing everything on his presumptions. If people want to go and watch the movie, that's their prerogative.

Hey Juliet it wasn't me who posted the vid, was just giving my opinion of it Wink xxxx
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Post by DreamsComeTrue on Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:55 am

Sorry, but I'm not buying this! Don't underestimate Michael's inteligence...He knew what he was doing...
He knows how to promote himself, he knows how to sell fake stories...
He didn't knew he was doing 50 concerts??? I'm not buying that...
Remember, the press lie...or...at least...they are writing only rumors...
Don't believe this...MJ is very intelligent...he sold this stories about him...
How is that at the begining of this year he had cancer, he was dying, he was in a wheel-chair and in March...he passed all the medical tests for TII Tour...Shamone...
If he wanted, he could have cancelled this tour or at least, a number of concerts...Didn't he do that back in 93?

I believe Michael sold fake stories about his health in order to debunk the press...Can you see the new results of the ¨autopsy¨? Well, we will hear very soon about this kind of situations...I mean...twisted news...contrary to what we had been told until now...

Don't believe this video...they don't believe he's alive...WE DO!

Have faith! Michael is a GENIUS!
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Post by juliet on Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:31 am

JUBILEE, I sincerely apologize....Pleassssse accept my apology?
I meant to say PARAKEET because it was PARAKEET who posted the vid. I didn't mean to hurt anyone with my post, as I just wanted to say also what I felt about the vid and whoever made that stupid and horrible vid.

I'm so sorry guys JUBILEE and PARAKEET.
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Post by Jubilee on Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:46 am

juliet wrote:JUBILEE, I sincerely apologize....Pleassssse accept my apology?
I meant to say PARAKEET because it was PARAKEET who posted the vid. I didn't mean to hurt anyone with my post, as I just wanted to say also what I felt about the vid and whoever made that stupid and horrible vid.

I'm so sorry guys JUBILEE and PARAKEET.

Don't worry about it Juliet no offence was taken Smile

I agree it's a horrible video and I'm confused as to whether the whole 'This is not it' campaign is part of the hoax or is by genuine fans who believe he has passed and are in mourning xxxxxxx
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Post by juliet on Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:04 am

So sorry again JUBILEE and to PARAKEET. I have never meant to hurt anyone.
Thanks for the reply JUBILEE.
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Post by Harleyblonde on Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:12 am

Remember that this film is just someones belief in what they think had happened. Maybe this person has not seen all the discrepancies as we have. Remember we are all watching every move and following everything to do with every event and every interview given since 25th June. Whoever made this film clearly loves Michael and is probably coping with the loss by considering things of that nature. We all know there were many disbelievers at the beginning-even some of us were so please dont let this video upset or dishearten you as it's us who know more, it's us who are not willing to accept what we are told if the facts do not add up, it's us who choose to question the many many lies and inconsistancies that have been told. Just thank God that we have the force, drive and belief to think how we do. It's sad really for someone not to feel and believe as we do.
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Post by See on Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:56 am

I don't like this video, it gave me goosbumps and just thinking that it is true gives me chills...
Not just Michael Jackson but no other HUMAN or ANIMAL should be treated like that!!!!

I did not believe the first autopsy report and I don't believe the second. Our only source is the media at this point. The media is full of BS and easy to be manipulate
I think every information we get is beeing filterd and alterd in some way by those with money, just like the autopsy report and the police investigation.

It is clear that all information we get is manipulated by somebody for his/her own good!!! I just wonder if Michael is that powerfull????
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Post by yaya on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:22 am

i didn't watch the video cuz i have a pretty good idea of what it's about. karen faye kissinger has been "promoting" this on her facebook. i took a look at the website and i find it funny how they are still claiming he was down to a mere 108 lbs when just last week it was reported that he was actually 136 or something like that. they don't have their "facts" straight and they're taking everything at face value and making this into some horrible murder investigation. i'm sure they're just in this to make money off of his grieving fans.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:35 am

Well how do we know that the report last week was REAL? Maybe that is the fake one?
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Post by See on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:55 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Well how do we know that the report last week was REAL? Maybe that is the fake one?

My point as well... what if both are fake???
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:59 am

I don´t think we should bother our heads with this too much. We are hoax believers and these people are not, and that´s fine. This is just their way of understanding what has happened. For us it´s easy, becuase we know he is alive but they don´t. And they have seen all the weird stuff going on and no explanation to anything, so of course they´ll assume the worst. He was killed. Whether it was by an injection or by surrounding himself with bad people is unimportant. They want their truth. Let them carry on their on investigation and let us keep finding da troot, our troot Very Happy
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Post by yaya on Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:20 am

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:I don´t think we should bother our heads with this too much. We are hoax believers and these people are not, and that´s fine. This is just their way of understanding what has happened. For us it´s easy, becuase we know he is alive but they don´t. And they have seen all the weird stuff going on and no explanation to anything, so of course they´ll assume the worst. He was killed. Whether it was by an injection or by surrounding himself with bad people is unimportant. They want their truth. Let them carry on their on investigation and let us keep finding da troot, our troot THIS IS NOT IT MOVEMENT Icon_biggrin

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Post by yaya on Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 am

See wrote:
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Well how do we know that the report last week was REAL? Maybe that is the fake one?

My point as well... what if both are fake???

it's possible. but what if michael was really the one to release last week's report, as the whole vindication thing? of course we don't have solid proof of that, but we don't have solid proof on a lot of things. i don't wanna start doubting every single thing that comes our way and end up missing the obvious. and personally, i'm just hoping that it's a sign. that was the 1st of october and we know the movie is released in a few weeks as well...hopefully this month has more fun surprises!
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:11 am

Aren't both autopsy reports fake if he didn't actually die? Laughing I have to say that I'd be surprised if Michael weighed 136 lbs in the TII footage. I'm about his height @ 5'9 and I don't look even close to as thin as he did at 125 lbs. (I haven't weighed that in a couple years though unfortunately Laughing ) Plus the camera adds 10 lbs, so that's pretty frightening to me. He often said he didn't eat when he toured so I'm assuming he really did drop a ton of weight. I guess it just makes me believe even more that he had to get out to save himself...and the report is fake.
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Post by lou on Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:05 am

I watched 49'' and gave up. I found it too hurtful, and besides, I never believed that MJ had a "failing health" (not that I think that he is a kind of "superman" that never gets ill, but at least the man was dancing and singing, as far as I know, and I think that if he was so frail, he wouldn't be able to do so). <br>
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Post by ~StarLight~UK~ on Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:03 pm

Erm ok.....I've been away for a week with personal stuff (yes a whole week without mjkit!! Crazy!) and this was one of the first video's that I watched when I returned today. Why would they do this? I agree it is horrible and disturbing and I'm trying to not think about the content! I don't believe it for a second although it does have me more confused than ever! I'm hoping that this is all part of Michael's plan!!! Please....!! THIS IS NOT IT MOVEMENT Suspect

Btw...I've missed reading everyone's posts....total withdrawal symptoms!! I'm so glad to be back! THIS IS NOT IT MOVEMENT Icon_bounce
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Post by dunno_it on Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:28 pm

Guys, think of the aims of this vid. it is supposed to play with our emotions. If you watch it without the sound on, it is not that shocking. it is music plus some tricks that evoke the emotions of sadness in the audience. It is supposed to be moving, to make fans angry at those who were around mj at that time. BUT

think: MJ IS the king of pop. Could the man who has released the best selling album ever, who has broken all the possible records so weak and susceptible to the control of others? He was very careful about his health. I'm not buying this vid, it's SHEER MANIPULATION. don't be deceived!
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Post by juliet on Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:38 pm

Yes, DUNNO_IT, please bring out the Super M
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Post by dunno_it on Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:18 pm

Do not worry my girl, the Super M is in control. Prepare for a BIG surprise!! THIS IS NOT IT MOVEMENT Icon_cheers
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Post by tinkerbell72 on Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:06 am

maybe it's a little bit "late" to post my opinion, but i'd like to share it with you all.
i believe in the murder theory but i believe Michael is still alive. someone attempeted to kill him but maybe killed his double. this is OT here, but i think that what is in the video could not be totally false. maybe Mike was worried about being killed, and not about the tour... and maybe the "strange" Michael was his double - he also was/is (?) a human being having his life in danger.
the fact that Mike was isolated can be due to the fact he was in danger... the night and the day he was (not) killed they say there were a lot of bodyguards more than usual and that there no tapes of video surveillance both outside and inside the house. maybe these people are giving a different view, as someone already said.
hope it was not too much OT
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Post by Rach on Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:10 am

I believe the same thing. I started a thread about it some time ago:

https://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-murder-theory-for-all-theories-regarding-the-murder-theory-f47/murder-mystery-conspiracy-what-did-happen-june-25th-t1690.htm

I have said many times before that this has been for a more sinister reason then we can see at the moment.
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Post by tinkerbell72 on Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:21 am

yes, i read it ... and posted there too!
i agree with you Rach ... sorry for posting here before posting on you thread!
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Post by Rach on Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:24 am

You don't have to apologise! I wrote that a few months back and it was buried underneath a whole load of other stuff!

Glad to know that we are on the same page. I have been thinking about this in some more detail and would love to have someone to bounce ideas off, so feel free to PM me if you think you have any other information regarding this! Smile
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Post by parakeet on Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:01 am

Hey guys,

there is a new video:

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Post by Eva R on Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:12 am

I really think that Michael was in danger and had to fake his death for his own protection and even for his children's protection...
And that's why the police helps Michael. That's what I think Wink

parakeet Very Happy LOVE your picture underneeth your message! Very Happy
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Post by Harleyblonde on Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:58 am

I don't think Michael would contemplate having a double in this position if he was in danger. Even if Michael was in danger I do not think he would put his double or anyone else in danger and would certainly not be responsible for letting a double be murdered in his place. This is the very sensitive sweet humanitarian we are writing about and was more sensitive and caring than most. I think we must rule this out.
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Post by mjssoulmate on Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:41 am

Harleyblonde wrote:I don't think Michael would contemplate having a double in this position if he was in danger. Even if Michael was in danger I do not think he would put his double or anyone else in danger and would certainly not be responsible for letting a double be murdered in his place. This is the very sensitive sweet humanitarian we are writing about and was more sensitive and caring than most. I think we must rule this out.

I agree with you 100%. Michael would never let that happen.
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Post by billyjean on Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:26 am

I was listening to the song "tabloid junkie." and in the lyrics MJ sings "just because you read in the magazine or see it on the TV screen don't make it factual." The media has lying to us in the beginning so I wouldn't starting buying into it now, They are like the Little boy who cried wolf." One day when they decide to tell us something huge and it's actually the truth for a change, we still won't believe them.
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