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Post by maria-c on Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:31 pm

Interesting length but. Take from a spanish forum. They took part a group of specialists in areas such as metaphysics, philosophy, antropology, and psychology course. Many thought (myself included) that Khatherine Jackson was into a family of Jehovah's Witnesses, but one of my exponents, who has also done its part in a particular investigation, I collect information about that, actually, Ms. Jackson was raised in the Baptist religion, and not until 1965 that decides to become Jehovah's Witnesses. Does this matter? indeed if, and far more than we imagine. The development of personality, speaking now from the antropological point of view, has the main influence enculturation, which is the process of "teaching" an individual's social model thinking and behavior so that it can function in society to it belongs to. The agent main family is the foundation of this influence, and education of rules and values their basic patterns. Better explain this point, what you and I learned as rules and moral principles in our first of life determined in a large percentage of shares with we condut we ourselves even today, that as adults, our principles are subjected to objective reasoning. And that will lead to? as reported by Katherine itself, described in his book "My Family" itself suggests that all their children prepared for the chenge of religion, making it the most devout Rebbie, La Toyah and our beloved Michael. Let us take a moment Mike, at 7 years of age not only changed his emotional life , economic, social, but spiritual and note that we consider all these detail because they are crucial to determine under what circumstances the Jackson actually increased, especially MJ, and if the conspiracy theory or presumed death of our king something valid justified the family. To return to Katherine, this time speak clearly of what their traits expressed. Take the face gestures. His face was always a captivating woman, calm, reserved, and strong at once. Her eyes are deep and there are few times when he has been to smile, except when he was surrounded by his beloved family and always defended. We know he had an unfaithful husband, see the rigidity whith to educated their children, surviving poverty and somehow give up their dreams to ensshrine the family, it gives an unshakable faith. Both the memorila and the funeral we see a troubled face on Kat, even to the naked eye can perceive the gesture of sadness that precedes the crying (the lips are contrated, the eyes narrow), but the precise question would be "which means that expression?. I will explain again in parts. Mourning is the process by which treats the loss of a loved one, whatever the causes of their disappearance, which has a normal time of 2 ot 3 months, this is the time when a person takes about to understand that this will no longer be loved. In the early days is normal that a person experiences a feeling that everything is "a nightmare" and that the person who has been at any time appear. The mind, extremely painful circumstances to activate this defense mechanism that prepares you to gradually get rid of that feeling and give way to resignation. As the weeks, the person goes through stages peripheral pain of loss, for example, feels the need to discover how it all happened he could do about it, that had happened. People who are strongly attached wing religion, they say that they find comfort more quickly than those who are not so goog, that is because these people assume that "pain is part of life, and is therefore part of the way to be closer to God. Kat's affliction coul be interpreted in two ways (in the opinion of those who shared with me this heated debate). The first is the pain a mother feels the sudden loss of one of his sons, that would be quite natural if both the "wake and burial" would have been like in conventional circumstances most 30 or 4 days of death of the person. But here we talk about a memorial 2 weeks later and 70 days after burial. You can be so intense grief even after that period is long? some believe that the rituals performed after a death help absorb the loss, however in this case, practically speaking people who had already begun rebuilding process even without having gone through those rituals. Now if we thought that match occurs only when is a death involved, we wer wrong, Any kind of loss is assumed as grief, when their impact has repercussions on the physical, mental and emotional. The second theory was exposed; it could be that the expression of Katherine indeed bring sadness, but because it is "formally firing" of ano of their" of one of their childre? This means?. If any of us part of a long journey, which we do not know when it's safe to return, what would be the expression of our mother? probably the same. It is possible that Katherine knew that MJ would never return to be the same? It is his apparent pain a sign of resignation because there is no way to undo what has already been done? In any case, she would be willing to make such a sacrifice for love? We were 7 the debaters, and 4 responded "yes". One argument was: a woman being strongly attached to religion, now would be aware that your chid is the hereafter, because it close to Gog and living in eternity. Then should show concern for their pain, but rather resignation in their faith. If this is true, then we speak of a mother going through a terrible internal conflict; to challenge the love and devotion for their belief against love and devotion for his family. Above, when we played the theme of religion is mentioned that an important point, since it is not the same follow a faith instilled a choice. If Kat, at some point in his life, as adult, he discovered that find the right way of changing religion, is because his mind was open to new possibilities. It is not "what I said was" if not "I think it is" People who have a very expansive view may have sound principles, but what they should weigh with them what they can or should do. That is why when the rest of their children decided to depart from that religion, rather than reject or condemn them, understood that if they had finally found peace and happinessin another way, then it was well supported.
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Post by See on Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:47 pm

So Katerina was indeed sad... that is the conclusion???
LoL I don't get it.... from what I understand:
1. Michael died and Katerina is grieving over that.
2. Michael is gone Katerina sad because he is gone and nothing will be the same.
3. Michael changed religion and Katerina is sad because she thinks he is going to hell.
4. She can't find any confert in God or her faith.
This is more an analyze of nothing... The only conclusion they have is that Katerina is sad, but they wonder why???
IMO... when you loose a child, it is like loosing a part of yourself...
This gives intense pain and grieve... that you can see on the face of this mother.
Even if the whole world hated Michael, Katerina would love him no matter what or regardless of anything. She is a mother in the first place... I think the analyze did not mention that! She did not just loose Michael Jackson, like us, she lost a CHILD!
So I think it would be better to analyze this from that view...
But thanks anyway, I like the way they used such different views in discussing this...
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Post by Harleyblonde on Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:22 pm

Yes, I do understand what this text is trying to say and the burial was quite a long time after the "death" but no matter how much faith and how religious you are I should think that with the atmosphere of a peaceful final resting place of your Son or Brother/Sister and the casket in full view that there should have been many many tears. If he was in fact dead then it would be the very last time they would be together with him on this earth. I myself would be crying buckets and would find it hard to control the tears.
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Post by maria-c on Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:01 pm

please, somebody that says to me if what I write understands
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