Real Ambulance Picture found?!

4evermichael71 wrote:

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:

lonelynation wrote:I do a lot of photoshop work and from the angle that equipment is positioned, it is exactly the same. The only thing you could've done with that is either tilted it up or down.. and even if they did, you can see from the whole way it looks, that it's the same medical device.
(I don't mean the device in general.. but the way that one specifically is sitting)

And also by making the picture look farther away throws off the idea to some, that it's the same, when in fact it is.
One photo is zoomed in and one is not - to trick people.

Yeah but can you see whether the medical equipment fits with the rest of the picture (from 85 of course) or does it seem fake, like it´s been put on there?

Not in 85. The technology wasn't there. As I said before there was no photoshop, computers barely did anything and those awful black screens with the hideous green font. Anybody my age correct me if I'm wrong with the following because it's been so long..To even boot up a computer you had to first put in a floppy disc into the disc drive, reach all the way round the back of the huge machine to turn it on then you had to key in a DOS command and then well, nothing really lol...you could do spreadsheets and line by line DOS commands which really didn't do a lot..
So after that blast from the past I would say the 85 pic is 100% real but the new one is fake..NOW on the new pic, a date can be put on the pic with a watermark via a picture tube or just keyed in and lightened...

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:nevermind I see it....so the left one is real and the right one fake? OR are you saying the opposite?

ishealive wrote:The 2009 one looks pretty fake, we've seen a pic of MJ lying down on stage that looks like the 2009 pic and it looks like they've photoshoped the '85 pic onto the '09 one imo.

What IF someone from 2009 said, "hey let´s play a game with the crazy people at mjkit. I´ll take a picture, maybe even the last picture of MJ in the ambulance from the 25th of June 2009, and photoshop it a bit and then post it and say that I´ve found a picture of MJ from 1985 and make them believe he used it for the hoax." You see what I mean? What if the picture from 85 never existed but it´s made up and photoshoped? But with the help of photoshoping it was made to look like the ambulance picture?

lonelynation wrote:

What IF someone from 2009 said, "hey let´s play a game with the crazy people at mjkit. I´ll take a picture, maybe even the last picture of MJ in the ambulance from the 25th of June 2009, and photoshop it a bit and then post it and say that I´ve found a picture of MJ from 1985 and make them believe he used it for the hoax." You see what I mean? What if the picture from 85 never existed but it´s made up and photoshoped? But with the help of photoshoping it was made to look like the ambulance picture?

I think I did answer this question, but I'll try again..
The picture from '85 may have never existed - it's quite possible. The reason that I believe it does in fact exist without the help of photoshop, is because of the way the whole image fits together. The picture as a whole color wise, grain wise, scale wise - makes sense

YveLoVesMJ wrote:I think that the pic is from 1986 when they took photos of Michael resting in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber, it's just a different angle. Someone who has that set of pictures, photoshopped one of the pics now to look like it was Michael in an ambulance in 1985 but it also looks like the pic from 2009 so, imo it's fake.



I also think that the pic from 2009 is fake.

Someone is trying to confuse us with this new pic.

Just my opinion...

fa wrote:

YveLoVesMJ wrote:I think that the pic is from 1986 when they took photos of Michael resting in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber, it's just a different angle. Someone who has that set of pictures, photoshopped one of the pics now to look like it was Michael in an ambulance in 1985 but it also looks like the pic from 2009 so, imo it's fake.



I also think that the pic from 2009 is fake.

Someone is trying to confuse us with this new pic.

Just my opinion...

But take a look, eyebrows are different.
I think that the 1985 pic is true.

maria-c wrote:Not wise I if to publish this video, but good here this one.
I am going to describe what one says in the video The image it is not equal with the current MJ, nose, hair, ear the one that takes the photo is Christopher Weiss friend of MJ The photo of the montage, is MJ's action in the one that throws at the floor, the sideburns, eyebrows are compared, nose They Turn the head in order that it seems that this on a pillow, and the reflection of the red car is to hide the hair, since it is different to of now and both doctors? Involved, besides the police

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOrXiWKinpo

Gm wrote: OMG!! My heart just skipped several beats!! You guys have really done it! This is such a wonderful, mind-blowing find. We have been convinced the whole time that the ambulance pic is fake; and now this! This is just incredible!
My thoughts are, if this photographer had faked the pic, wouldn't ambulance staff or somebody close to Michael (who knew details, such as how he was looking at the time he was taken to hospital etc.) perhaps have come forward by now and made a statement against it being real (as the coroner has done over the past couple of days about the "allegedly leaked" autopsy photo)? Unless they refused to entertain commenting on tabloid things at that time (as masses of stories were everywhere immediately after June 25th), I really can't believe that this picture has been circulating around this much without someone close to Michael questioning it somehow (correct me if I'm wrong about this!). The fact that the photographer has actually talked publically about the photo makes me wonder even more, as would he not keep as quiet as possible if he had lied? As we're totally convinced this photo is fake, the fact no one has questioned it is maybe an even greater reason to believe they are all in on it... Sorry for rambling

Has anyone here been able to source the original 1985 photo because I can't find any photos or info about Michael being in hospital that year... Also does anyone have a medical background and some knowledge of how this equipment looks to date?

mjssoulmate wrote:Ok, someone please tell me what was wrong with Michael in 1985 that he needed to be bagged and have CPR? Are you saying he had a heart attack in 1985? Obviously the medical equipment was photoshopped into the pic. And the 2009 pic is also fake. Someone is having a good laugh about this.

dontmakeitfactual wrote:Guys, not to be the party pooper but in MJHD they are saying that the 1985 pic is photoshoped...they used the oxygen chamber pic. I think I agree

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/the-ambulance-the-ambulance-photo/ambulance-pic-is-fake-from-1985-86/page-6/

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:

4evermichael71 wrote:

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:

lonelynation wrote:I do a lot of photoshop work and from the angle that equipment is positioned, it is exactly the same. The only thing you could've done with that is either tilted it up or down.. and even if they did, you can see from the whole way it looks, that it's the same medical device.
(I don't mean the device in general.. but the way that one specifically is sitting)

And also by making the picture look farther away throws off the idea to some, that it's the same, when in fact it is.
One photo is zoomed in and one is not - to trick people.

Yeah but can you see whether the medical equipment fits with the rest of the picture (from 85 of course) or does it seem fake, like it´s been put on there?

Not in 85. The technology wasn't there. As I said before there was no photoshop, computers barely did anything and those awful black screens with the hideous green font. Anybody my age correct me if I'm wrong with the following because it's been so long..To even boot up a computer you had to first put in a floppy disc into the disc drive, reach all the way round the back of the huge machine to turn it on then you had to key in a DOS command and then well, nothing really lol...you could do spreadsheets and line by line DOS commands which really didn't do a lot..
So after that blast from the past I would say the 85 pic is 100% real but the new one is fake..NOW on the new pic, a date can be put on the pic with a watermark via a picture tube or just keyed in and lightened...

Oh yeah, I understand that (the stone age discussion lol) but I´m not sure you understand what I mean. I´ll try again:

What IF someone from 2009 said, "hey let´s play a game with the crazy people at mjkit. I´ll take a picture, maybe even the last picture of MJ in the ambulance from the 25th of June 2009, and photoshop it a bit and then post it and say that I´ve found a picture of MJ from 1985 and make them believe he used it for the hoax." You see what I mean? What if the picture from 85 never existed but it´s made up and photoshoped? But with the help of photoshoping it was made to look like the ambulance picture?

I think it´s the language barriers that makes me misunderstood

WanaBstartnSthn wrote:OMG OMG Someone @ MJHD found this. This ambulance pic of Michael is from 1985!




They are so similar what do you think?

Chuyuri wrote:

mjssoulmate wrote:Ok, someone please tell me what was wrong with Michael in 1985 that he needed to be bagged and have CPR? Are you saying he had a heart attack in 1985? Obviously the medical equipment was photoshopped into the pic. And the 2009 pic is also fake. Someone is having a good laugh about this.

Read Moonwalk. Michael said an artery (or something like that) burst in his lungs and he had to be taken to the hospital.

Eva R wrote:

4evermichael71 wrote:

Chuyuri wrote:

mjssoulmate wrote:Ok, someone please tell me what was wrong with Michael in 1985 that he needed to be bagged and have CPR? Are you saying he had a heart attack in 1985? Obviously the medical equipment was photoshopped into the pic. And the 2009 pic is also fake. Someone is having a good laugh about this.

Read Moonwalk. Michael said an artery (or something like that) burst in his lungs and he had to be taken to the hospital.

I remember that..

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Icy55

LAst night I was so excited I couldnt think...now that Im calmed down Im beginning to thin that yes they are both fake.
I cant imagine the equipment they used in 85 is still the EXACT SAME in 2009. It doesnt make sense. They update equipment all the time and it just seems odd that the same equipment they used back in 85 is still being used today...know what i mean?

icy55 wrote:i'm not able to find ANY pictures of 1985 to prove that the picture of the left is real. What if both are fake?

mjssoulmate wrote:

4evermichael71 wrote:

Chuyuri wrote:

mjssoulmate wrote:Ok, someone please tell me what was wrong with Michael in 1985 that he needed to be bagged and have CPR? Are you saying he had a heart attack in 1985? Obviously the medical equipment was photoshopped into the pic. And the 2009 pic is also fake. Someone is having a good laugh about this.

Read Moonwalk. Michael said an artery (or something like that) burst in his lungs and he had to be taken to the hospital.

I remember that..

Yes, I do remember reading that. But did his heart stop? Because the EMT is working on him as if it had. So, there is no way that pic is real. Because he did not go into cardiac arrest in 1985.

lou wrote:

icy55 wrote:i'm not able to find ANY pictures of 1985 to prove that the picture of the left is real. What if both are fake?

Hi, so maybe the 1985 pic is someone that photoshopped the equipment of the 2009 pic in an old pic? I mean they mixed these 2 photos just to make fun of us? omg it's frustrating...

icy55 wrote:

lou wrote:

icy55 wrote:i'm not able to find ANY pictures of 1985 to prove that the picture of the left is real. What if both are fake?

Hi, so maybe the 1985 pic is someone that photoshopped the equipment of the 2009 pic in an old pic? I mean they mixed these 2 photos just to make fun of us? omg it's frustrating...

yup that's my assumption for now... So now we have to all go back to square one.

@EvaR If i'm not wrong it's 1984. And i believe Michael wasnt that badly hurt that he had to use a breathing equipment... below is the 1984 photo. Nothing about 1985...

lou wrote:

icy55 wrote:i'm not able to find ANY pictures of 1985 to prove that the picture of the left is real. What if both are fake?

Hi, so maybe the 1985 pic is someone that photoshopped the equipment of the 2009 pic in an old pic? I mean they mixed these 2 photos just to make fun of us? omg it's frustrating...

4evermichael71 wrote:

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:

4evermichael71 wrote:

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:

lonelynation wrote:I do a lot of photoshop work and from the angle that equipment is positioned, it is exactly the same. The only thing you could've done with that is either tilted it up or down.. and even if they did, you can see from the whole way it looks, that it's the same medical device.
(I don't mean the device in general.. but the way that one specifically is sitting)

And also by making the picture look farther away throws off the idea to some, that it's the same, when in fact it is.
One photo is zoomed in and one is not - to trick people.

Yeah but can you see whether the medical equipment fits with the rest of the picture (from 85 of course) or does it seem fake, like it´s been put on there?

Not in 85. The technology wasn't there. As I said before there was no photoshop, computers barely did anything and those awful black screens with the hideous green font. Anybody my age correct me if I'm wrong with the following because it's been so long..To even boot up a computer you had to first put in a floppy disc into the disc drive, reach all the way round the back of the huge machine to turn it on then you had to key in a DOS command and then well, nothing really lol...you could do spreadsheets and line by line DOS commands which really didn't do a lot..
So after that blast from the past I would say the 85 pic is 100% real but the new one is fake..NOW on the new pic, a date can be put on the pic with a watermark via a picture tube or just keyed in and lightened...

Oh yeah, I understand that (the stone age discussion lol) but I´m not sure you understand what I mean. I´ll try again:

What IF someone from 2009 said, "hey let´s play a game with the crazy people at mjkit. I´ll take a picture, maybe even the last picture of MJ in the ambulance from the 25th of June 2009, and photoshop it a bit and then post it and say that I´ve found a picture of MJ from 1985 and make them believe he used it for the hoax." You see what I mean? What if the picture from 85 never existed but it´s made up and photoshoped? But with the help of photoshoping it was made to look like the ambulance picture?

I think it´s the language barriers that makes me misunderstood

No, I apologize. I missed what you were saying altogether Ahhh now I get what you are saying. It's possible but I don't know. If the 2009 pic is a fake like someone said, it's still game on and Ben whatever his name is has been a naughty boy lol

city.gal1 wrote:As usual, I log off one day and the forum goes wild while I'm off the computer!

This is very interesting indeed. One thing I would like to add with regard to the hyperbaric chamber photo...I have read in several places that it was MJ that "leaked" that photo to the press (PT Barnum/fame). So is it possible that both photos are a fake if indeed that hyperbaric chamber photos were MJ's to begin with?

Could one not photoshop both photos and put different dates on them?

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:All I can say is Wow great find! Not to burst anyone bubbles but how if both is photoshopped? I hope that it's for real and not someone trying to play with us with another new picture again!

Eva R wrote:

This picture is cute though! I love it!