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by mjboogie Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:44 pm

OK, guys? Ummm I think it would be really great if
someone could get this video of the burial we saw on
television in the hands of a high tech sound company
or engineer. I have tried understanding the conversations
on the video among MJ"s friends but could not decipher due
to the fact that everyone is talking among each other. I bet
if we break down the sound and zoom in on the conversations
we will pick up on some things that will make the hairs stand up
on our neck! Anyone here who would be willing to try to break
these conversations down? Its all for L.O.V.E.

by KNOWhesALIVE Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:13 pm

Turn the speaker up to max volume and put your headphones on.. This is big..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIBILGoy79c
1) 1:36 a womans voice " Yes that's him"

2) 1:49 someone is talking " He's out there somewhere in the first 4 rows"
1:57 " White (quite) old man on the side"

3) 5:25 two women talking "Yeah, they have seen the corpse... or something"
" somebody says it looked like him"
5:33 " Oh really, but is was plastics"

4) 6:21 A child says " daddy"

5) 7:17 Two guys talking " where are the rest of us"
7:24 Same conversation " ..... the biggest stunt"
7:28 Same conversation "... for charity"

6) 7:31 Same conversation " cough"
7:34 Same conversation " yeah, anything that will stop the King Of Pop doing the concerts"
7:39 Same conversation " everything is scripted"

7) 7:54 Believe 2 people talking " Look at ???? mother"
7:57 "napkins"
7:59 " looks like somebody's seen somebody's fakin it"

Cool

8:22 I can't hear the first they are saying, but i've heard this.
" Ohh is he gonna do that"

Well that's what i've heard.. And i played over and over again... Hope it's helping a little bit

by LizzieBee Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:33 pm

Wow. That's really interesting. Thanks for your good detective work and close listening. Smile

My net is sooo slow right now so the vid is taking forever to load. But I did here the "first 4 rows" part. Hmmmm..... Conversations Icon_scratch

by KNOWhesALIVE Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:15 am

And there is of course this lady (i believe 6:29) turning around and looks at the man with the white fedora and says "Michael".. I'm not sure if in fact is at 6:29.. Let me check it out and get back to you... Hang on Conversations Icon_cheers

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by Styloprincess Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:16 am

KNOWhesALIVE wrote:And there is of course this lady (i believe 6:29) turning around and looks at the man with the white fedora and says "Michael".. I'm not sure if in fact is at 6:29.. Let me check it out and get back to you... Hang on girls

wow I gotta check this out again...I didn't see/hear that the first time!!!

by CKopp Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:28 am

Is it possible for someone to post a
link to a downloadable video?
I have audio extractor software but
can't located a downloadable file to use
it with. Conversations Icon_idea

by mjboogie Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:42 am

OK guys, listen... I believe what you are saying but I still would feel better
if someone with high tech equipment could break those conversations down
for us. If that is what is being said then my god. For instance plastics? The
two women who were talking does anyone recognize who these women are?
Can someone reanalyze this and post a full summary for those who are having
a hard time hearing those conversations? Thanks. But still a good sound technician
would help to confirm you know. I did try listening but could not make it out. If this
is what is being said this is reallllllllllly huge and all the confirmation we need that MJ
is still here but.... I dont know. Conversations Icon_wink

by kdkennedy74 Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:51 am

Can someone post a link to the video please? I have seen it but can't seem to find it now and I would really like to watch it again.

Thanks!!!

by MJPL Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:32 am

kdkennedy74 wrote:Can someone post a link to the video please? I have seen it but can't seem to find it now and I would really like to watch it again.

Thanks!!!

Here you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIBILGoy79c

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:45 am

Are you friggin serious? ALL those things were said? I cant believe this!! I had asked when this vid was posted if someone could use some special software to drown out the background noise so you can only hear the voices....THIS IS AWESOME!!

Michael is doing this for Charity maybe? Holy Christ....all of the money from the movie, soundtrack, all album sales etc..go to charity? OMG.....

by Kirsche Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:13 pm

[quote="KNOWhesALIVE"]Turn the speaker up to max volume and put your headphones on.. This is big..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIBILGoy79c
1) 1:36 a womans voice " Yes that's him"

sorry, but I heard the woman sayin' "yes, that's me" like she was asked about her name on the guest list...

I think it would be a great idea to zoom into the conversations

by Kirsche Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:19 pm

There is a programm. I saw that on a youtube video for VMA tribute of Janet. They zoomed out the music and you can only hear Janets voice singing...IDk hellohomo.com? MAybe that's a possibilizy

by KNOWhesALIVE Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:25 pm

[quote="Kirsche"]

KNOWhesALIVE wrote:Turn the speaker up to max volume and put your headphones on.. This is big..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIBILGoy79c
1) 1:36 a womans voice " Yes that's him"

sorry, but I heard the woman sayin' "yes, that's me" like she was asked about her name on the guest list...

I think it would be a great idea to zoom into the conversations

I will listen to it again and the return later.. And i'll also find the excact minuts when the lady turn around to the man with the white fedora.. Shes saying this just before the camera turns away, so you have to look a couple of times Conversations Fresse

by KNOWhesALIVE Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:16 pm

@Kirsche you are right she is saying " yes thats me" Sorry Conversations Icon_cry

..

Anyway watched it again and again and the woman at 6:29 is saying "Michael" just before the camera turns away.. The person who put this vid on Youtube is a bit fast writing "she says Michael" because at that time her mouth is closed.. So it's at 6:29..

I also noticed something else...
At 4:26 when the black car arrives there are 6 trash cans and 1 tree in the background..The grey trash can is standing beside the tree
At 5:27 the same trash cans but NO tree
At 5:43 the grey trash can is in front of the tree and
at 7:00 the grey trash can is beside the tree AGAIN..

Well something is very wrong.... Right Conversations Icon_question

by rowdyangel Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:55 pm

OMG this is big! We really do need a sound engineer or someone like that.

I know someone who has a recording studio and might be able to help but he's always busy.

Just trying to contact him now. BRB.

by rowdyangel Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:12 pm

I have emailed someone who may be able to isolate the conversations.

Will report back as soon as I hear from him. Very Happy

by infinitylady Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:17 pm

At 4:26 when the black car arrives there are 6 trash cans and 1 tree in the background..The grey trash can is standing beside the tree
At 5:27 the same trash cans but NO tree
At 5:43 the grey trash can is in front of the tree and
at 7:00 the grey trash can is beside the tree AGAIN..

What?! They playing musical chairs with the trash cans!! Conversations Lol

by KNOWhesALIVE Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:23 pm

@rowdyangel...

Oh i can't wait Conversations Icon_cheers

by KNOWhesALIVE Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:26 pm

infinitylady wrote:

At 4:26 when the black car arrives there are 6 trash cans and 1 tree in the background..The grey trash can is standing beside the tree
At 5:27 the same trash cans but NO tree
At 5:43 the grey trash can is in front of the tree and
at 7:00 the grey trash can is beside the tree AGAIN..

yah mabye... But i've spend hours looking and hearing this vid... And if i have to i will spend many hours again looking and hearing this vid.... It's very interesting
What?! They playing musical chairs with the trash cans!!

by billiejean17 Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:28 pm

KNOWhesALIVE wrote:Turn the speaker up to max volume and put your headphones on.. This is big..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIBILGoy79c
1) 1:36 a womans voice " Yes that's him"

2) 1:49 someone is talking " He's out there somewhere in the first 4 rows"
1:57 " White (quite) old man on the side"

3) 5:25 two women talking "Yeah, they have seen the corpse... or something"
" somebody says it looked like him"
5:33 " Oh really, but is was plastics"

4) 6:21 A child says " daddy"

5) 7:17 Two guys talking " where are the rest of us"
7:24 Same conversation " ..... the biggest stunt"
7:28 Same conversation "... for charity"

6) 7:31 Same conversation " cough"
7:34 Same conversation " yeah, anything that will stop the King Of Pop doing the concerts"
7:39 Same conversation " everything is scripted"

7) 7:54 Believe 2 people talking " Look at ???? mother"
7:57 "napkins"
7:59 " looks like somebody's seen somebody's fakin it"

8:22 I can't hear the first they are saying, but i've heard this.
" Ohh is he gonna do that"

Well that's what i've heard.. And i played over and over again... Hope it's helping a little bit

Wow what a good job! My goodness! what a shocker!! Well done! Conversations Icon_cool

by Truth_or_Dare Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:31 pm

CKopp wrote:Is it possible for someone to post a
link to a downloadable video?
I have audio extractor software but
can't located a downloadable file to use
it with.

I can download it and send it to you if you want it. Let me know!

by kdkennedy74 Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:32 pm

Would you mind sending it to me as well. I would really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance!

by Truth_or_Dare Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:33 pm

Sure. I'll download it now.

by Kirsche Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:52 pm

KNOWhesALIVE wrote:@Kirsche you are right she is saying " yes thats me" Sorry ..

Anyway watched it again and again and the woman at 6:29 is saying "Michael" just before the camera turns away.. The person who put this vid on Youtube is a bit fast writing "she says Michael" because at that time her mouth is closed.. So it's at 6:29..

I also noticed something else...
At 4:26 when the black car arrives there are 6 trash cans and 1 tree in the background..The grey trash can is standing beside the tree
At 5:27 the same trash cans but NO tree
At 5:43 the grey trash can is in front of the tree and
at 7:00 the grey trash can is beside the tree AGAIN..

Well something is very wrong.... Right

wow!! So you mean that two videos were put together?? The one from culver city and one from forest lawn? Or did I get you wrong?

by neverlandprincess Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:06 pm

Really interesting guys...it would be nice to know what is really being said in isolated contexts-otherwise we are picking out words and filling in holes for our own confirmations. Remember if this works and we DO really find things that are concrete I feel it is important to be careful what we post or say about it. My mom asked me today "if he is being hidden for his safety,don't you think finding all this stuff could put him in danger? Furthermore if he is doing it because he wants to and does not want to perform anymore,why would you want to blow his cover? Gave me something to think about because I really didnt have an answer for her. I told her-"well its not like people think we are serious anyway,I am sure people that think he is gone are not paying us any mind"...she said "well the people that might want to hurt him are...otherwise they would'nt be deleting youtube accoounts and other sites...right?
So lets be careful with our enthusiam.

by Truth_or_Dare Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:10 pm

neverlandprincess wrote:Really interesting guys...it would be nice to know what is really being said in isolated contexts-otherwise we are picking out words and filling in holes for our own confirmations. Remember if this works and we DO really find things that are concrete I feel it is important to be careful what we post or say about it. My mom asked me today "if he is being hidden for his safety,don't you think finding all this stuff could put him in danger? Furthermore if he is doing it because he wants to and does not want to perform anymore,why would you want to blow his cover? Gave me something to think about because I really didnt have an answer for her. I told her-"well its not like people think we are serious anyway,I am sure people that think he is gone are not paying us any mind"...she said "well the people that might want to hurt him are...otherwise they would'nt be deleting youtube accoounts and other sites...right?
So lets be careful with our enthusiam.

If he was in danger and didn't want anyone to know he wouldn;t have left so many holes behind..If we noticed them imagine how easy the "bad" guys would find them..and MJ is a perfections, he doesn't do things half way...
Besides, what can we find from those conversations? We're not gonna hear where he is hidding...And if they didn;t want those things to be know they wouln't have made them public..this is the footage the family released...

by neverlandprincess Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:17 pm

Truth_or_Dare wrote:
neverlandprincess wrote:Really interesting guys...it would be nice to know what is really being said in isolated contexts-otherwise we are picking out words and filling in holes for our own confirmations. Remember if this works and we DO really find things that are concrete I feel it is important to be careful what we post or say about it. My mom asked me today "if he is being hidden for his safety,don't you think finding all this stuff could put him in danger? Furthermore if he is doing it because he wants to and does not want to perform anymore,why would you want to blow his cover? Gave me something to think about because I really didnt have an answer for her. I told her-"well its not like people think we are serious anyway,I am sure people that think he is gone are not paying us any mind"...she said "well the people that might want to hurt him are...otherwise they would'nt be deleting youtube accoounts and other sites...right?
So lets be careful with our enthusiam.

If he was in danger and didn't want anyone to know he wouldn;t have left so many holes behind..If we noticed them imagine how easy the "bad" guys would find them..and MJ is a perfections, he doesn't do things half way...
Besides, what can we find from those conversations? We're not gonna hear where he is hidding...And if they didn;t want those things to be know they wouln't have made them public..this is the footage the family released...

I was just sayin

by mjboogie Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:46 pm

Oh yes once we have the conversations things will be looking up.
But can you all hold out if they are real? How would you handle this?

by KNOWhesALIVE Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:41 pm

Kirsche wrote:
KNOWhesALIVE wrote:@Kirsche you are right she is saying " yes thats me" Sorry ..

Anyway watched it again and again and the woman at 6:29 is saying "Michael" just before the camera turns away.. The person who put this vid on Youtube is a bit fast writing "she says Michael" because at that time her mouth is closed.. So it's at 6:29..

I also noticed something else...
At 4:26 when the black car arrives there are 6 trash cans and 1 tree in the background..The grey trash can is standing beside the tree
At 5:27 the same trash cans but NO tree
At 5:43 the grey trash can is in front of the tree and
at 7:00 the grey trash can is beside the tree AGAIN..

Well something is very wrong.... Right

wow!! So you mean that two videos were put together?? The one from culver city and one from forest lawn? Or did I get you wrong?

The way i see it with the tree and the trash cans, then yes they put two videos together...
If i'm on the wrong path here let me know Conversations Icon_rr

by Truth_or_Dare Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:30 pm

This is the link to the video for who wants to download it. Sorry it took so long but i had some issues with my computer.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/a1a6f83/n/mj_funeral.avi

by mjboogie Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:55 am

Anyone broke down the conversations yet! LOL! LOL! Come on where are my MJ sound technicians

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:04 am

Yes, i wanna know too!!

by KNOWhesALIVE Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:35 am

when i open this "filefactory" thing, there is no link to any conversations from the funeral, only 3 pictures Conversations Icon_neutral

by LucyLocket Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:27 am

WOW.

At around 5:28, is that guy wearing a U.S. civil war style cap?

by Truth_or_Dare Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:16 am

KNOWhesALIVE wrote:when i open this "filefactory" thing, there is no link to any conversations from the funeral, only 3 pictures

I'm gonna upload it again and send the link..I don't know why it didn't work the first time. Sorry Sad

by KNOWhesALIVE Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:29 am

Truth_or_Dare wrote:
KNOWhesALIVE wrote:when i open this "filefactory" thing, there is no link to any conversations from the funeral, only 3 pictures

I'm gonna upload it again and send the link..I don't know why it didn't work the first time. Sorry

Okay can't wait Conversations Icon_cheers

by Truth_or_Dare Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:51 am

Here it is..let me know if it works this time.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/kempss

by KNOWhesALIVE Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:14 am

Truth_or_Dare wrote:Here it is..let me know if it works this time.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/kempss

I'm downloading right now.. It's going to take about 5 hours to download... BUT i'm not shutting it down...
Damn it i'll wait 5 hours Conversations Icon_geek

by rowdyangel Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:18 am

Sorry guys, still waiting for a reply from my recording studio contact to see if he can isolate the conversation Crying or Very sad

by SPAKKLE29FUL Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:38 am

i cant wait im very impatient lol

by KNOWhesALIVE Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:51 am

Does anyone know if the link vid is the same as the link from youtube??? If it is i don't want to download it.. 5 hours = waiste of my time

by Truth_or_Dare Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:03 am

It's the same video as the one from you tube but not the link to youtube. I downloaded it form you tube and turned it to avi so that anyone can watch it on their computer.

Sorry that it takes so long...must be the connection..

by mjboogie Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:57 pm

Stay on him RowdyAngel! We appreciate you taking the tape to a recording studio. Just think its all for L.O.V.E.! And dont let him forget u are waiting we are all very anxious to hear what the studio will reveal on these conversations. Thanks.

by nellyka7 Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:44 pm

mjboogie wrote:Stay on him RowdyAngel! We appreciate you taking the tape to a recording studio. Just think its all for L.O.V.E.! And dont let him forget u are waiting we are all very anxious to hear what the studio will reveal on these conversations. Thanks.

I know someone that works for a studio but right now our equipment is down, and he kind of already thinks I'm nuts because we believe Michael is alive.

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