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Post by mjboogie Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:56 am

I dont know guys, I am feeling really down today. I mean so far... nothing is adding up but we still finding all these things! But u know what? I am starting to think MJ would not hoax his death because what about his kids?What about the legal consequences? I know he would never leave those kids in a million years! He luved them too much and also with this being worldwide? I find it hard to believe he would you know? I think most of this comes from the fact we have no closure! no closure will constantyl make you hold on for hope. I luv and miss him soooooo much but what can we do. If I just knew he was still here and alive I would be ok. more than ok I would go back to normal. Someone cheer me up and just give me the one single proof that point s to him definitley being alive and i will cheer up. A proof that is undeniable.
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Post by Kimsdu Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:04 pm

Hmmm i feel the same way... Sooo many clues and coincidences but no real SOLID confirmation that he is still here.. I would like some solid evidence that he is Dead as that will be easier to find than if he is alive as none of it adds up.. Too many things point to him being alive.. I wish some staff from the hospital would come forward and speak i cant believe nobody that worked in that hospital has said one word about the DAY MJ came in and died!!!!! I mean its MJ dying in your hospital and you were there MJ!!!!!!!!!!! Surely someone would have said something to a local paper or a blog somewhere or something..... But no Nothing NADA squat, zilch...........UGH
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Post by salvatora Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:10 pm

im sorry but u can't help you in that...i only know things all of you already know and to my knowledge non of them have been proven facts Losing Hope! Icon_question ....i feel the same as you, we find stuff but is like going on circles Losing Hope! Icon_cry and is depressing of course and no one is forcing us...we are doing this forced by love and that is such a powerful tool....and well to cheer you and me up...ok nevermind, i think it has been ruled out...hell!! im gonna put it....the painS....i even tweeted Kenny, i asked him(subtle of course) who was in charge of the memorial program and who decided what songs to play and what artists to invite to sing and well of course he didn't answer and that left me that doubt i have been carrying since two weeks after june 25...
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Post by Anneken Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:12 pm

If I losing hope I look at Dave Dave in Larry King and back is my hope! Losing Hope! Icon_smile
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Post by Emma_Lollipop Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:14 pm

I have a bad day too! I made the mistake to listen Speechless 30-40 times today.
And nothing new.
And people here start questioning about the validity of the hoax and go more towards the murder theory.
But for the moment, the elements (I cannot call them proofs) we have are indicating more in favour of hoax theory.
So I will wash my tears again (I never thought that I can cry so much for such a long period of time) and keep the faith!
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Post by KNOWhesALIVE Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:30 pm

Oh no don't lose your hope.. I was losing my hope a couple of ago.... BUT all the guys in here got me back on track Losing Hope! Icon_cheers...

So now it's my turn to help you..

DON'T LOSE HOPE Losing Hope! Icon_flower
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Post by shusc140 Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:35 pm

Don't be sad! Michael is alive, check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akLBsd72jB8
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Post by EarthAngel90 Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:39 pm

Don't Give Up ... !!!! I been though that feeling 12 times .. but I remember why I did it & I am doing it for a special person ! Remember - we are a family & family sticks together !
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Post by mjfull Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:50 pm

Every time i feel I am losing hope, i like to think that, if he is dead he is in a beautiful place where everybody loves him, playing hide and seek or a water balloon fight, surrounded by kids and he is really happy!
On the other hand, if he is alive (which i do hope) he is playing and laughing with his kids, he is having a wonderful time and he is making arrangements for his comeback!!! Smile
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Post by MJsAngelEyes1987 Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:53 pm

For me, at certain points, I felt like I was gonna lose hope, but then I realized that now I'm not gonna give up & I, myself, will continue to KEEP THE FAITH!!! I Love MJ & always will.
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Post by raluka Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:56 pm

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Post by Styloprincess Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:56 pm

Don't give up and don't lose hope. I think everybody here has those days, me too, where feel down just want to let it go. That's normal because we all want closure. But that doesn't mean that we should give up hope....so Keep the faith. I also think it's great that everybody here is looking out everyone and is trying to help each other....that's awesome...we're like a big family here. Thank you guys Losing Hope! Icon_biggrin Losing Hope! Herz
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:57 pm

Snap out of it!!! **slap***..........kidding

Seriously..ALL of us have gone thru times of dispair more then once. I personally got sick. I was deeply depressed. I felt my world crashing down....worse then on June 25th. MUCH worse. I took a few days off from here and thought that would do the trick. It worked. I realised that life does go on, but you can still investigate the hoax...you just need to know how to seperate the two.
It very trying on the heart and soul...I know this, but I think you need to take a day or two off and clear your head. I have told this to alot of people in your position and you know what? The way you are feeling is totally normal....and you will recover....do not lose hope.

****hugs****
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Post by kdkennedy74 Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:58 pm

I have my moments of doubt but I think that is normal. My motto that keeps me going is "show me a body and I will give up!!!!"
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Post by Shamone' Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:01 pm

I had my moment the other day when I saw this for the first time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3-8r9Cstd4

(Prince wiping his tears at the Memorial) Sad
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Post by angela1958 Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:16 pm

Don't give up, I have my depressive days aswell, losing hope sometimes too, but my heart and gut tells me so much, he's alive!
And I really believe in Cassandra, don't think she would be so cruel to play with our feelings and I'm very happy today after I noticed, she's answering again on this new blog and I'm waiting patiently now for June 2010!

Let's all stick together as Michael wants us to. It's all for L.O.V.E. Losing Hope! Herz
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Post by icy55 Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:28 pm

if you feel like giving up go to http://derekclontz.com/ once i read the post of cassandra, it gives me a tinge of hope that Michael is still there, somewhere! Even though she may be a fake, but at least I wish to think that still some uncertainty, and in fact she may be the truth to everything! =)

Dont give up, I've been through an emotional roller coaster.

Here's a time line of my roller coaster of emotions

From June 25(dead)
After the memorial (dead)
Started googling to find clues for MJ being alive (hoax)
Then came the death cert (Dead, I was blown away =(
Decided to read forums (hoax)
Then came the funeral (dead)

So it's like every little thing makes you change your decisions. really, it's all in the mind. If you truly believe he is alive, he will live on forever... It's not self-denial, but since believing that Michael is still somewhere out there makes me feel better, I am willing to dedicated this part of my life to him. Because no matter what they say, I will never be fully convinced. =)
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Post by Sweet1 Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:33 pm

Sweetie,
Don't give up! Michael is not gone (he's just away from the world right now) and his kids are fine. He keeps in contact with his children daily. They are just too content for that not to be the case. The undeniable proof is their temperment. They have gone on as though nothing happened. They know their dad is alive. Nothing is adding up with the HOAX because it's a hoax within a hoax. I don't remember who said that but it's true. Look at the Jackson family and their actions. Look at Michael's closet friends and if that isn't enough go back to the funeral. It looked as though they were filming a movie. Michael's program had a pic of him sitting in a director's chair from Liberian girl shortfilm. MJ is very much alive. Just Keep the Faith!
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Post by nohype Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:03 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Snap out of it!!! **slap***..........kidding

Seriously..ALL of us have gone thru times of dispair more then once. I personally got sick. I was deeply depressed. I felt my world crashing down....worse then on June 25th. MUCH worse. I took a few days off from here and thought that would do the trick. It worked. I realised that life does go on, but you can still investigate the hoax...you just need to know how to seperate the two.
It very trying on the heart and soul...I know this, but I think you need to take a day or two off and clear your head. I have told this to alot of people in your position and you know what? The way you are feeling is totally normal....and you will recover....do not lose hope.

****hugs****

This is excellent advice... Losing Hope! Icon_biggrin
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Post by hesouttamylife Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:14 pm

Just stop it, y'all are depressing me to no ends Sad He has to be back. If he never does another concert, I just really, really, really have to believe that somewhere in this vast universe, Michael lives. It is discouraging enough that he left in the first place. He's got to give us a sign or something. I need it with every beat of my heart. Okay now I am too officially depressed. Sorry Sad
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Post by maria-c Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:33 pm

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Let's see if this helps somewhat .....
This I read on page TNZ few months ago and I remembered something I read this morning in the forum, now get it but I printed, I'll translate the most important:
Some of the names I use to get mediacamentos MJ;
Paul Farance, Omar Arnold, Jimmy Nocola, Brian Singleton.


Paul Farance, the name is referencing Pablo Francia-CEO Fantastic One is a media company that uses new technologies, before this, Paul France launched Asia in 1993, which eventually merged with CNBC to create CNBC Asia in 1998


Omar Arnold, is owner and general sales manager of Quantum & Technology Incorporated, located in California. It is a company that works with audio systems, supports organizations that promote music programs in schools in the U.S.


Jimmy Nicolas is vice president of business development for MokaFive, a technology based organization. Before this work with TriplePoint Capital, where he was responsible for a risky operations, also was CEO of Oxford Media Corporation, which is dedicated to providing digital video technology in 2000, press reports indicate that MJ invested several million dollars in HollywoodTicket.com, was a company that wanted to maximize Internet technology.


Brian Singleton is the Creative Director and Product Manager of Attention Span Media, located in Los Angeles, Brian has worked with the entertainment industry through the production of various sitcoms, was a news producer Khiza TV, and now focuses on new media


Peter Midani, actually refers to Pedro Madonia, since 2006 has been the Managing Director of the Rockefeller Foundation, and oversees the financial and human resources, information technology, inastalaciones. Before that, he was the Chief of Staff of the Mayor of New York, Michael R. Bloomberg, who paid tribute to Michael Jackson. Bloomberg announced on 7 July 2009 that wanted to help the media industry through the creation of 8,000 jobs,By creating partnerships between traditional media and digital and the attraction of foreign investment, grants for training also with joint ventures. Not only that, but a Children's World Congress was held in April 1995, where besides other supporters, MJ Heal The World Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation was a sponsor. The other names were aliases of friends, children, celebrities, or its staff.


As you can see, there is a very strong possibility that the MJ use aliases that were people he knew. From the above list, all of whom are prominent individuals associated with the media and technology industries. A few days after the "death" of MJ, Joe Jackson appeared in an interview talking about "Ranch Records" is impel the Blu-Ray technology, and what is your next step, "said his partner Marshall Thompson, Joe Jackson was never a investor.


It appears that MJ is an investor in companies associated with technology, Ranch Records focuses on the promotion of new media technologies, contrary to the impression that MJ is a luxury spender and not familiar with finance, is a major investor.
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Post by ayka Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:06 pm

Well. I went through living hell. I cried every day from morning till evening, in my sleep also. I lost 20 kg. I wanted to die. Really. It´s true, I´m not stupid liar and false comforter. I can´t say what happened but I´m already relaxed. I know it, I feel it intensely. Something will come,something will happened in a short time. Please hold on, it will be worth it. I send you a piece of my faith and my hope. Losing Hope! Icon_sunny
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Post by icy55 Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:27 pm

ayka wrote:Well. I went through living hell. I cried every day from morning till evening, in my sleep also. I lost 20 kg. I wanted to die. Really. It´s true, I´m not stupid liar and false comforter. I can´t say what happened but I´m already relaxed. I know it, I feel it intensely. Something will come,something will happened in a short time. Please hold on, it will be worth it. I send you a piece of my faith and my hope. Losing Hope! Icon_sunny

You lost 20kg?!?!? Take care babe! =)
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Post by Selectively Chromatic Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:43 pm

Anneken wrote:If I losing hope I look at Dave Dave in Larry King and back is my hope! Losing Hope! Icon_smile
that is a great thing to do, I highly recommend it too. I really didn't need any further "proof" after I saw that. (don't forget to compare Dave Dave's photos from myspace, that's not the same "face". )
of course, there is this doubt because of his children he'd never willingly leave. you don't leave something you love more than your life unless you are forced to, for whichever reason.
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:16 pm

Shamone' wrote:I had my moment the other day when I saw this for the first time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3-8r9Cstd4

(Prince wiping his tears at the Memorial) Sad

I've never seen that before. Damn. Sad
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Post by shasta2001 Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:31 pm

shusc140 wrote:Don't be sad! Michael is alive, check this out:

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akLBsd72jB8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akLBsd72jB8[/quote[/url]]

Seeing this again makes it very possible that MJ could be the hatman at the funeral. The mayor's face is similar.
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Post by smoothcriminal2792 Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:40 pm

Personally i want to say that it has been over four months and we still don't have concrete proof, but to me this brings even more hope! it's been all this time and there is still no proof of Michael being "gone" while it can be frustrating at times we must keep the faith. Michael always adored his loyal fans, let's not give up now when he needs us most. In the name of L.O.V.E.
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