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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:10 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXv5PmfHJI
This is footage of MJs transport to the coroner. Look at the helicopter id number

now listen to this interview and look at the helicopter id number
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuKB0hRiE5g

If this guy say it's the SAME helicopter why are the id numbers different???
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Post by Rach on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:15 pm

OMFG it is different!

Amazing find Smile

The mask is slipping people!!!
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Post by mjjforever72 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:23 pm

Ya that is very strange, the first one heli says n95odg for the id and the second one that the guy says he flew micheal from the hospital to the corners that id is n95osb so that don't make nooooooo sence what's so ever.
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:25 pm

yes, and it's this helicopter is now an attraction for public.. Suspect
I want see the ambulance attraction now hehe Razz
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:27 pm

or the one they followed was just a decoy, and the real one fly without anybody watching.
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Post by Lorrie on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:34 pm

Nice catch.

...HOWEVER, a commenter on the second video wrote four weeks ago:

"No fear - despite what the pilot said, this is not THE helicopter.
The LA Sheriffs has 5 of these helos."

Might want to confirm or disprove that information before jumping to any conclusions.
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:38 pm

Lorrie wrote:Nice catch.

...HOWEVER, a commenter on the second video wrote four weeks ago:

"No fear - despite what the pilot said, this is not THE helicopter.
The LA Sheriffs has 5 of these helos."

Might want to confirm or disprove that information before jumping to any conclusions.

Hmmm, a commenter huh?? I'd try to cover it up to if my pilot spilled the beans. Very Happy Inconsistant to what the pilot said.


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Post by annieisnotokey on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:39 pm

You know what I find interesting about the second video??
How much the guy stresses that they weren't involved in this or that, even his body language shows how much he doesn't want to be involved:

"We only transported him from the hospital to the coroner's office. That was the day he died. That was all we did. We weren't involved in any other...part of it" Suspect

On a side note, I'm ready to punch the woman and the guy who speaks off camera. They annoy me.
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:45 pm

They totally have a different num sequence ... on the heli's ... wow - could he have switched helis in the process??!!!
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:47 pm

I'd like to also point a comment made by Lorrie...notice the ONLY comment on this video is of a person making sure we know this is NOT the MJ helicopter. pirat
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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:11 pm

You know what I find interesting about the second video??
How much the guy stresses that they weren't involved in this or that, even his body language shows how much he doesn't want to be involved:

"We only transported him from the hospital to the coroner's office. That was the day he died. That was all we did. We weren't involved in any other...part of it" Suspect

I think he was talking about the Staples centre Memorial
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Post by Lorrie on Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:30 pm

Give.In.To.Me wrote:I'd like to also point a comment made by Lorrie...notice the ONLY comment on this video is of a person making sure we know this is NOT the MJ helicopter. pirat

Yeah, I found it odd that there was only one comment, too, especially on YouTube, where verbal diarrhea is rampant.
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:10 am

Lorrie wrote:
Give.In.To.Me wrote:I'd like to also point a comment made by Lorrie...notice the ONLY comment on this video is of a person making sure we know this is NOT the MJ helicopter. pirat

Yeah, I found it odd that there was only one comment, too, especially on YouTube, where verbal diarrhea is rampant.

Exactly..one comment making sure everybody knows this is not the helicopter used to transport MJ , despite what the pilot said. I don't buy it. Plus I've searched for 2 hours now on the helicopters from the LA sheriff department and not one photo of the helicopter with the id# that MJ was transported in. But MANY of the one from the airshow video and one other. It's like the MJ helicopter is missing, just like ambulance 71.
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Post by Dutch on Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:20 am

Here's a pic of the helicopter MJ was transported in, taken in TX:
www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/1/6/9/1354961.jpg" alt="" />

Although the id# can not be fully read, you can be sure it is the one. Just follow the link below and you'll see that the picture can be found on a site with airplane and helicopter fanatics. These fanatics take big pride in documenting the id#'s of all aircraft they "spot" very precise.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Los-Angeles-County/Sikorsky-UH-3H-Sea/1354961/&sid=de154315f216e188c1d461e4b235eb51
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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:06 am

Why use 2 helicopters?? When they only needed one??

But you dont see them change Helicopters, when its flying from the hospital. Why is that?

How can we be sure, that its NOT the same one??

Im lost
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:19 am

MyBelovedMJ wrote:Why use 2 helicopters?? When they only needed one??

But you dont see them change Helicopters, when its flying from the hospital. Why is that?

How can we be sure, that its NOT the same one??

Im lost

I'm not entirely sure of a switch, but why does the pilot at the air show confirm THAT is the helicopter that transported MJ when in fact it isn't. The helicopter id numbers don't even match. Also, why did filla7(you tube user) feel the need to clarify in the comments section of the video that the pilot was wrong in saying that the helicopter at the air show was the one used for MJ. The pilot could easily have said, "this particular helicopter was not used in the MJ case" but he didn't. He said it was THAT one. I hope that made some sense, my brain feels fried. Sleep
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:21 am

Dutch wrote:Here's a pic of the helicopter MJ was transported in, taken in TX:
www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/1/6/9/1354961.jpg" alt="" />

Although the id# can not be fully read, you can be sure it is the one. Just follow the link below and you'll see that the picture can be found on a site with airplane and helicopter fanatics. These fanatics take big pride in documenting the id#'s of all aircraft they "spot" very precise.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Los-Angeles-County/Sikorsky-UH-3H-Sea/1354961/&sid=de154315f216e188c1d461e4b235eb51

BUT still not the one the pilot claims was used.
Here's the MJ helicopter from that day and the same side pause this at .37 where's the id number?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO2XE
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Post by mjanna on Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:26 pm

First of all sorry for my bad english. I'm italian.
I was watching the footage of the Michael Jackson's body removed from the UCLA and i noticed that the body is hold to the stretcher with black strings but when it has arrived to the coroner and removed from the helicopter, there are no black strings around his body.
What do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO2XE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeMCdtJr56E&NR=1
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Post by jpresley on Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:49 pm

Looks like the straps may be hanging down the side on the second video? Not sure. scratch
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:05 pm

It's just another white blanket they added , we can see the strap under.
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Post by mjanna on Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:33 am

I really think they are 2 different bodies
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Post by Guest on Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:54 am

I think this whole thing, have turned into a BIG JOKE, on Michael`s behalf, and it breaks my heart Sad
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Post by mjssoulmate on Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:46 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:You know what I find interesting about the second video??
How much the guy stresses that they weren't involved in this or that, even his body language shows how much he doesn't want to be involved:

"We only transported him from the hospital to the coroner's office. That was the day he died. That was all we did. We weren't involved in any other...part of it" 2 helicopters/ Suspect

On a side note, I'm ready to punch the woman and the guy who speaks off camera. They annoy me.



I totally agree: other part of it?
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Post by rowdyangel on Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:16 pm

OK guys, just done a bit of digging and this may be something interesting.

First go to YouTube and play this video, freeze at 24 seconds. Notice the black strap going across the body bag?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO2XE

Now go to the following video and freeze at 29 seconds. Where is the black strap around the body bag now???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvDlZlDUvo&feature=related

What? You don't see it???????? Hmmmmmmmm. And not only that but the 'body' coming out of the helicopter into the coroner's van seems to have shrunk somewhat during the journey!!!
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:23 pm

rowdyangel wrote:OK guys, just done a bit of digging and this may be something interesting.

First go to YouTube and play this video, freeze at 24 seconds. Notice the black strap going across the body bag?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO2XE

Now go to the following video and freeze at 29 seconds. Where is the black strap around the body bag now???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvDlZlDUvo&feature=related

What? You don't see it???????? Hmmmmmmmm. And not only that but the 'body' coming out of the helicopter into the coroner's van seems to have shrunk somewhat during the journey!!!


OMG!!! I never noticed that before!! WTF?

Woooooooowwwww....
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Post by rowdyangel on Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:24 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
rowdyangel wrote:OK guys, just done a bit of digging and this may be something interesting.

First go to YouTube and play this video, freeze at 24 seconds. Notice the black strap going across the body bag?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO2XE

Now go to the following video and freeze at 29 seconds. Where is the black strap around the body bag now???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvDlZlDUvo&feature=related

What? You don't see it???????? Hmmmmmmmm. And not only that but the 'body' coming out of the helicopter into the coroner's van seems to have shrunk somewhat during the journey!!!


OMG!!! I never noticed that before!! WTF?

Woooooooowwwww....

I just noticed it when I was looking back at the various helicopter videos on YouTube. I have started to look at every single detail now when comparing video footage. cyclops
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:29 pm

rowdyangel wrote:OK guys, just done a bit of digging and this may be something interesting.

First go to YouTube and play this video, freeze at 24 seconds. Notice the black strap going across the body bag?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO2XE

Now go to the following video and freeze at 29 seconds. Where is the black strap around the body bag now???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvDlZlDUvo&feature=related

What? You don't see it???????? Hmmmmmmmm. And not only that but the 'body' coming out of the helicopter into the coroner's van seems to have shrunk somewhat during the journey!!!


Nice observation!!!! Also, did you notice that in the first video there are 2 helicopters on the roof of the hospital and only one has been started and it's not the one that they put that body in? Makes me wonder why, if Michael's body was the only one that we seen being carried out, was he not being put into other helo with the propeller spinning? I hope what I am trying to say is clear!
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Post by CantlivewithoutMJ on Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:30 pm

[quote="rowdyangel"]OK guys, just done a bit of digging and this may be something interesting.

First go to YouTube and play this video, freeze at 24 seconds. Notice the black strap going across the body bag?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO2XE

Now go to the following video and freeze at 29 seconds. Where is the black strap around the body bag now???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvDlZlDUvo&feature=related

What? You don't see it???????? Hmmmmmmmm. And not only that but the 'body' coming out of the helicopter into the coroner's van seems to have shrunk somewhat during the journey!!


Hmmm...thats very intresting.
It disappeared i think lol

But good find,very good Smile
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Post by MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs on Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:31 pm

When was this vid posted?

I'm thinking the "mask isn't slipping."

I'm thinking the CLUES are all LEAKED in due time and in sequence!


...I'm just sayin'......


:~ I can't wait.... ~:

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Post by rowdyangel on Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:31 pm

kdkennedy74 wrote:
rowdyangel wrote:OK guys, just done a bit of digging and this may be something interesting.

First go to YouTube and play this video, freeze at 24 seconds. Notice the black strap going across the body bag?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NLmHZO2XE

Now go to the following video and freeze at 29 seconds. Where is the black strap around the body bag now???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvDlZlDUvo&feature=related

What? You don't see it???????? Hmmmmmmmm. And not only that but the 'body' coming out of the helicopter into the coroner's van seems to have shrunk somewhat during the journey!!!


Nice observation!!!! Also, did you notice that in the first video there are 2 helicopters on the roof of the hospital and only one has been started and it's not the one that they put that body in? Makes me wonder why, if Michael's body was the only one that we seen being carried out, was he not being put into other helo with the propeller spinning? I hope what I am trying to say is clear!

No I didn't notice that - lol - maybe my scrutinising skills aren't that great after all lol. Very Happy
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Post by rowdyangel on Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:33 pm

MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs wrote:When was this vid posted?

I'm thinking the "mask isn't slipping."

I'm thinking the CLUES are all LEAKED in due time and in sequence!


...I'm just sayin'......


:~ I can't wait.... ~:

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According to the stats on YouTube they were both posted on 25 June 2009.
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Post by MiaPaparazzi on Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:10 pm

In the first one, the body looks kinda big, and the guys are carrying it pretty quick, like it weighs nothing... sorry for lack of a better term here, but wouldn't that be "dead weight"?

Also, in 2nd video, the body looks flat, as opposed to first video... except for the feet... and why in the second video are like 6 people in the van (pry exaggerating a little there but there are quite a few people in there) for like 20 seconds and then suddenly everyone hops out and goes about their business? Anyone else find this odd???
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:00 pm

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Post by White_Orchid on Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:13 pm

@miapaparrazi, yes it is very weird.

Carefully watch 2nd vid ,time intervals 43 thru to 50....watch attendant lift 'white sheet' to the left side of van...watch white sheet on left, do you see 'shadow' sitting up' ...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvDlZlDUvo&feature=related
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Post by Guest on Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:29 pm

Double-Problem-all im saying from the beginning.
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