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Post by mjgirl86 Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:10 pm

WTF.... I try and talk with people about the death hoax, and they get annoyed. I respect people's opinions, but my god... we need to let him go? The man is dead? Get over it?? I never believe celebrities are dead? WTF.... I was FINE with moving on, until I realized how much is wrong, but what is it with all the rude horrible people, who think WE are in the wrong for this?..... I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Icon_rolleyes

"If one more person says he faked his death!!"

"Are you one of those crazy fans who can't let go??!"

Um, how about not? I can't convince anyone, you guys... no one is willing to listen and it's frustrating.... I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Kopfschuettel
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Post by Eva R Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:13 pm

I understand you hun.. Same here...

But keep the faith and be happy when you think about that we can say one day ( i think really soon Wink ) : SEE!! I AM NOT CRAZY!! I TOLD YOU!!!
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Post by rowdyangel Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:14 pm

I don't talk to anyone else away from this forum about my beliefs in the hoax.

Not even my husband, my sister, my work colleagues - not even my best friend who has been a fan of Michael's for many years and went to see TII with me.

I keep my opinions close to my chest and only with those I know who feel the same way.

Cheer up honey. What is important is what YOU believe - screw everyone else. XX
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Post by mjgirl86 Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:14 pm

Yes, I really hope we can do that... that would be really awesome, to say "See, I told you!"...

thanks for the encouragement..
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Post by mjgirl86 Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:15 pm

rowdyangel wrote:I don't talk to anyone else away from this forum about my beliefs in the hoax.

Not even my husband, my sister, my work colleagues - not even my best friend who has been a fan of Michael's for many years and went to see TII with me.

I keep my opinions close to my chest and only with those I know who feel the same way.

Cheer up honey. What is important is what YOU believe - screw everyone else. XX

Thank you!!.... thanks so much!...
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Post by Léa Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:19 pm

I know it's hard sometimes...

And if people want us to let him go.. Just say : How could we when there is so many strange things ? If he's really dead, the only way we could accet it, it's to know the truth.

We are going there, we will know it !
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:20 pm

rowdyangel wrote:I don't talk to anyone else away from this forum about my beliefs in the hoax.

Not even my husband, my sister, my work colleagues - not even my best friend who has been a fan of Michael's for many years and went to see TII with me.

I keep my opinions close to my chest and only with those I know who feel the same way.

Cheer up honey. What is important is what YOU believe - screw everyone else. XX


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Post by rowdyangel Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:22 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
rowdyangel wrote:I don't talk to anyone else away from this forum about my beliefs in the hoax.

Not even my husband, my sister, my work colleagues - not even my best friend who has been a fan of Michael's for many years and went to see TII with me.

I keep my opinions close to my chest and only with those I know who feel the same way.

Cheer up honey. What is important is what YOU believe - screw everyone else. XX


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Post by mjgirl86 Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:28 pm

Yes, I think this is the only place worthy of discussing all of this... ugh.
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Post by Léa Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:30 pm

mjgirl86 wrote:Yes, I think this is the only place worthy of discussing all of this... ugh.

But sometimes other people listen and then they start to think about it.

My best friends listenned to me, and she was a bit sceptic, but when I show her why I believe him to be alive, she started to think about it, and now she asks me news.
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Post by MJsAngelEyes1987 Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:34 pm

Just try & keep the faith as much as you can!!! I don't think that Michael would want us to give up. There are just too many inconsistencies in this case. I am certainly not giving up & neither should we all. Smile
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Post by MJThrillsMe Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:34 pm

That is precisely the reason why I joined this site--because I can no way say I believe that MJ's death is a hoax to my husband, relatives, and friends. They would think that I would need to be sent off to a psychiatric ward!
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:35 pm

Remember Man in the Mirror in the movie!! He was giving us a clue dear!!

MJ needs us right now....
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Post by kdkennedy74 Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:36 pm

I am very lucky here because my best friend feels the same as I do and believes he is alive. However, when we go somewhere and the topic of MJ gets brought up there is always someone who looks at us as though we have lost our minds and we just tell them....wait, you will see!!!!
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Post by mjgirl86 Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:45 pm

Thanks everyone.. you all are right.

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Post by jpresley Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:48 pm

You guys and the other obsessive MJ folks I twitter with (who may or may not believe, but at least keep an open mind) are the only people that I talk to about this. My mom knows how I feel and doesn't make fun of me, but she also kind of blows it off. Thank goodness for everyone here! As time passes, I feel like more and more of my 'real' life actually takes place in front of a computer screen (or mobile, lol). I know that is sad, but it is the truth! I just don't have the time or inclination to deal w/ close-minded people. If you think about it, it was that same mind set (those unwilling to think outside the box if you will) that caused Michael such pain. I am proud to NOT be one of those people.

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Post by badloving Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:55 pm

i actually met someone lately who kinda believed in the hoax....and i never expected to hear about that there....it was a 40-50 years old circle .....i was like I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Affraid
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Post by mjgirl86 Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:58 pm

badloving wrote:i actually met someone lately who kinda believed in the hoax....and i never expected to hear about that there....it was a 40-50 years old circle .....i was like I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Affraid

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Post by Léa Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:01 pm

MJsAngelEyes1987 wrote:Just try & keep the faith as much as you can!!! I don't think that Michael would want us to give up. There are just too many inconsistencies in this case. I am certainly not giving up & neither should we all. Smile

exactly !
PLus I don't believe it's gonna be soon... I mean it will take times before he reappear.
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Post by Christiana Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:28 pm

To me, there's just no reason to try to convince anyone else to believe in the hoax. What's the point? I share my thoughts and ideas with everyone here, and that is a comfort to me, feeling like I am free to say whatever I want, without fear of reproach or judgment. If someone I talk to (off the computer I mean) sincerely asked me questions, I would answer. But I don't bring the hoax up to people or make general conversation about MJ's "death" and everything surrounding it. This is just me though, how I deal with things. Less stressful for me in the long run.
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:46 pm

im in the closet with this,if i mention that i know mj is alive one more time i think i will be put in a mental insutation.here im not considered crazy, i know one thing this hoax death is the worse kept open secert ever.i cant wait to be proved right and then im gonna moonwalk all over my sisters face
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Post by jpresley Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:20 pm

SPAKKLE29FUL wrote:im in the closet with this,if i mention that i know mj is alive one more time i think i will be put in a mental insutation.here im not considered crazy, i know one thing this hoax death is the worse kept open secert ever.i cant wait to be proved right and then im gonna moonwalk all over my sisters face

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Post by Léa Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:28 pm

Christiana wrote:To me, there's just no reason to try to convince anyone else to believe in the hoax. What's the point? I share my thoughts and ideas with everyone here, and that is a comfort to me, feeling like I am free to say whatever I want, without fear of reproach or judgment. If someone I talk to (off the computer I mean) sincerely asked me questions, I would answer. But I don't bring the hoax up to people or make general conversation about MJ's "death" and everything surrounding it. This is just me though, how I deal with things. Less stressful for me in the long run.

Yes, you're right... But I was so happy when I fond that forum, so happy I wasn't the only one to believe he was still alive... and so happy to have access to so many theories, I couldn't help but talk to everyone. And almost everyone laught at me,
it's frustrating.
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Post by city.gal1 Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:29 pm

@mjgirl, you are not alone in your frustration. I think most of us are in the same boat with regard to others thinking that we are "nuts". Although, when I spoke to one person about it she sort of believed it was possible.

The only thing is, while I believe MJ is alive, I'm not sure that we may actually see him again. Personally, I think he will not resurface in the public eye. I know a lot of people are waiting for a comeback and I'm not sure that we are going to see one. I have a hard time reconciling that he would go through all of this and then come back in a public way, but that's just my opinion. In any case that is what I've prepared myself for, and if he does make a public comeback, I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

For me, I have learned that outside of this forum to keep my thoughts about this to myself. If I verbalize this to anyone else, they'll probably have a straightjacket waiting for me. I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Icon_biggrin
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Post by shasta2001 Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:34 pm

I don't speak about it much away from the hoax forums. I gave up after the last person said, "Oh just like Elvis". I can't wait to say I told you so.
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Post by whateverhappens Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:43 pm

ladies,

it is the same with me
my husband thinks i am loosing my mind
he is making fun of me- but not in a hurtung way because in a certain way he also feels for him- was with me at a concert (history) and lovs his music- even agreed to watch the movie with me,
but in a way he resists my arguments to think about the strange things surrounding the "death"-. maybe because he is a man and emotions are not everybody's cup of tea, but i am angry because we have facts
so i try to ignore that- i have you- thank you
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Post by Léa Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:48 pm

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The only thing is, while I believe MJ is alive, I'm not sure that we may actually see him again. Personally, I think he will not resurface in the public eye. I know a lot of people are waiting for a comeback and I'm not sure that we are going to see one. I have a hard time reconciling that he would go through all of this and then come back in a public way, but that's just my opinion. In any case that is what I've prepared myself for, and if he does make a public comeback, I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
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You know what, I believed it at first. But I'm starting to think it makes no sense Mj will just never returns. Can you imagine living all your life hidden ? He couldn't go out with his children, he would be even more in jailed than before !
And if what you saiy is true it meas that we will NEVER know if he's still alive... and that's a umbeareable thought.
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Post by KNOWhesALIVE Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:56 pm

rowdyangel wrote:I don't talk to anyone else away from this forum about my beliefs in the hoax.

Not even my husband, my sister, my work colleagues - not even my best friend who has been a fan of Michael's for many years and went to see TII with me.

I keep my opinions close to my chest and only with those I know who feel the same way.

Cheer up honey. What is important is what YOU believe - screw everyone else. XX

I don't talk to ANYONE about this at all.. Whats important to me is when " hopefully" he returns, i know that i've followed my heart and my believe... And yes screw the media as well I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Icon_clown
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Post by city.gal1 Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:03 pm

@Lea, I understand everything you say. But really I think he has the means to do it.

There have been lots of times in different books where he talks about how he has gone out in public in disguise and no one even knew it was him. We all know that it is possible to disguise oneself in that way especially if they are in the industry and have access to makeup and prosthesis, etc., it's not hard to do. (there's also the possibility of more plastic surgery) So in that sense he would have more freedom than he had so far in his life. Up until his "death" he still had control of what he wanted the public to see or not.

We really don't know if he has access to the kids or not -- some people believe that the kids were faking, others do not. Is the family in on a hoax or not? Maybe he's waiting until things quiet down before he and the kids can be together again, etc.

I know that to fans it might be an unbearable thought but really if one thinks about it, why would he want to put himself "out there" again after everything that he has been through. Personally, I believe that he wants his fans to know that he is alive/ok but honestly (for me) I don't think that he owes any of us anything. All I hope is that he finds his peace in whatever form that he can find it.
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Post by mjgirl86 Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:05 pm

shasta2001 wrote:I don't speak about it much away from the hoax forums. I gave up after the last person said, "Oh just like Elvis". I can't wait to say I told you so.

Yes, I know exactly what you mean... ughh...

And even if he doesn't "come back" and make an appearance, I just want some kind of final proof, from him.
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Post by infinitylady Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:09 pm

I gave up talking about it to others a longgggggggggg time ago. The only place I talk about it is right here! I just don't waste my time anymore. I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Kopfschuettel
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Post by Léa Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:11 pm

Oh yeah I agree with you...

I think the kids faked it. I can't believe he has not told the person he love the most in the world that he's alive.

I'm wondering, maybe he will just go on living hidden (but we will notice if the same man starts going out with his children everytime) but adress a proof he's alive ?
I mean, maybe he could just tell Janet to tell this, and everyone will know he's alive, but no one will know who is is.

I'm not cleat, I'm afraid...
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Post by Asia Grimes Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:21 pm

I know this may sound completely crazy, but there are a lot more people involved with this hoax than most could EVER IMAGINE. This whole thing is a movie and EVERYBODY involved has a role, EVEN ALL OF YOU HAVE A ROLE. I very rarely talk about the hoax to OUTSIDERS, but the few that i have spoken with regarding the hoax don't beleive he's alive. However, they all have said ''michael would probabaly do something like that, so you never know'', but they all pretty much doubted it. I haven't been called crazy because most people eventhough they believe he is dead all know that a hoax is very well possible. I still make sure i don't speak to openly or frequently with non-beleivers of the hoax theory. We have to understand that this was done so well and detailed that many people would beleive he's gone and the thought of him hoaxing this would be adsurd to them, it wouldn't be a very good hoax at all if everyone could figure it out. we shouldn't feel frustrated, because this wasn't meant to be spoken about with outsiders but instead only really smart fans or should i say INVESTIGATERS.
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:39 pm

I know loads of people are involved,and have you noticed all the things that made us no something was dodgy has not been mentioned once on main stream media,not once. i have been e-mailing tmz this ? do you think michael jackson faked his death, they accepted it but have not answered it , i have gone right off harvey now.
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Post by Emma_Lollipop Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:41 pm

Léa wrote:
mjgirl86 wrote:Yes, I think this is the only place worthy of discussing all of this... ugh.

But sometimes other people listen and then they start to think about it.

My best friends listenned to me, and she was a bit sceptic, but when I show her why I believe him to be alive, she started to think about it, and now she asks me news.

The same with me. Besides my best friend (who's asking me about new things) I cannot talk with anybody.
Thanks GOD there are these sites (MJKIT, MJHD) otherwise I would have thought that I going crazy.
But I'm "not alone".
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Post by smoothcriminal2792 Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:42 pm

mjgirl86 wrote: WTF.... I try and talk with people about the death hoax, and they get annoyed. I respect people's opinions, but my god... we need to let him go? The man is dead? Get over it?? I never believe celebrities are dead? WTF.... I was FINE with moving on, until I realized how much is wrong, but what is it with all the rude horrible people, who think WE are in the wrong for this?..... I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Icon_rolleyes

"If one more person says he faked his death!!"

"Are you one of those crazy fans who can't let go??!"

Um, how about not? I can't convince anyone, you guys... no one is willing to listen and it's frustrating.... I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Kopfschuettel

Don't worry, if people don't want to believe you can't force them, but when everything comes to light we here on this forum will have the last laugh I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Icon_lol
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Post by Léa Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:43 pm

Emma_Lollipop wrote:
Léa wrote:
mjgirl86 wrote:Yes, I think this is the only place worthy of discussing all of this... ugh.

But sometimes other people listen and then they start to think about it.

My best friends listenned to me, and she was a bit sceptic, but when I show her why I believe him to be alive, she started to think about it, and now she asks me news.

The same with me. Besides my best friend (who's asking me about new things) I cannot talk with anybody.
Thanks GOD there are these sites (MJKIT, MJHD) otherwise I would have thought that I going crazy.
But I'm "not alone".

same for me ! But sometimes, I do think I'm a bit Crazy... because theres so many theories I don't buy, and sometimes I think it discretits the real one. But then, you have to make guesstimation about everything otherwise, How would you discover the truth ?
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Post by anotherpartofme Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:50 pm

Same here... the only place I talk about this is here.. I tried to talk to my husband about this.. don't ask me how he looked lol!
You guys are just enough for me..
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:42 pm

i know mj is alive but all this drama is sending me OFF THE WALL,up the wall,and through the wall .it just makes me wanna SCREAM,
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Post by infinitylady Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:00 pm

i know mj is alive but all this drama is sending me OFF THE WALL,up the wall,and through the wall .it just makes me wanna SCREAM,



I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Lol I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Lol

I feel ya!!

I know I would be a laughing stock. NO QUESTION!!

While I am at school on the computer's and when my friends/associate come around I just minimize the site. I don't even want them to see the title because they pretty much believe he is dead and so I just don't feel like explaining it, ya. Know.
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:33 pm

I must have a lot of open-minded people in my life because no one has looked at me like I'm crazy when I talk about the hoax. They all think MJ would be the person to pull something like this off, and usually want to know why I think so.
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Post by me0101 Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:42 pm

shasta2001 wrote:I don't speak about it much away from the hoax forums. I gave up after the last person said, "Oh just like Elvis". I can't wait to say I told you so.

I hear ya.
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Post by Karen27 Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:50 pm

Hey guys,

I'm new around here, still trying to figure out how it all works exactly, but I felt like I had to comment on this post.
You see, I'm not a big fan of Michael - I used to be when I was younger (like 15 years ago), but I always loved his music and it still has a huge place in my heart.
I work as a reporter for an entertainment magazine, and I wrote a lot about MJ after June 25th. I was really sad to hear about his death, it literally broke my heart. I found myself thinking about him for the first time in years, listening to his music again, reading about him, and missing him. Michael and his music were, and forever will be, two of the most significant things that represent my childhood.
Anyway, a few days ago I found myself typing "Michael Jackson is still alive" on google, just cause I was curious to see what will happen, and a whole new world revealed infront of my eyes. I started watching some of the MJHD on youtube (still shocked from this DAVE DAVE character! OMG! I watched and I said to myself "holly F***, that's Michael underneath!" Shocked ), reading about the theories - stuff I never heared about - and I have to say, I'm starting to believe MJ is really alive, and faked his death.now I can't stop reading about it and looking for new videos on youtube. i find it just fascinating.
There are SO many weird stuff going on! it freaked me out at first, to be honest. but now I'm kinda of relief to think the king of pop is still with us.
I'm going to write an article about it for the magazine, which I'm sure will have many other people believing, or at least wondering, if MJ's death is a hoax.
So, let me assure you that while some people think you're "crazy" or whatever - a lot of others out there find all of this VERY, VERY convincing.

so screw them all. someday you'll be able to tell the world: we told you! Wink
and As you guys say - keep the faith.

Good night from Israel,
Karen. I love you
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Post by icy55 Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:54 pm

Oh yeah.... Tell me ALL ABOUT IT! I'm at the brink of being a social outcast if I speak about the hoax one more time.
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Post by ONESTEPCLOSER Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:55 pm

I only talk about it here and with my mum. We are the only ones that believe in our family, the others are a lost cause.. no matter how much evidence I give them or what I tell them about. I think its cause most of them lived through the whole Elvis-is-dead-oh-wait-i-saw-him-in-a-petrol-station-era. LOL Very Happy
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:55 pm

KAREN27 ,im glad you are writing an article and have you noticed how the mainstream media have stayed silent about these hoax theories i have not heard it mentioned at all the only place you find it is all over the net
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Post by SomeoneInTheDarkForMe Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:57 pm

rowdyangel wrote:I don't talk to anyone else away from this forum about my beliefs in the hoax.

Not even my husband, my sister, my work colleagues - not even my best friend who has been a fan of Michael's for many years and went to see TII with me.

I keep my opinions close to my chest and only with those I know who feel the same way.

Cheer up honey. What is important is what YOU believe - screw everyone else. XX

Same here. I discuss some strange things and my husband agrees there is something very odd going on, but he doesn't believe. I think he believes I've just lost it due to my overwhelming grief...a likely possibility as well.
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Post by miss j Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:00 pm

rowdyangel wrote:I don't talk to anyone else away from this forum about my beliefs in the hoax.

Not even my husband, my sister, my work colleagues - not even my best friend who has been a fan of Michael's for many years and went to see TII with me.

I keep my opinions close to my chest and only with those I know who feel the same way.

Cheer up honey. What is important is what YOU believe - screw everyone else. XX

same here. I CAN'T TAKE IT, YOU GUYS, HELP ME CALM DOWN!! Icon_smile
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Post by Léa Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:19 am

SPAKKLE29FUL wrote:KAREN27 ,im glad you are writing an article and have you noticed how the mainstream media have stayed silent about these hoax theories i have not heard it mentioned at all the only place you find it is all over the net

Yeah that's what I wanted to say !
It would be really cool if your article starts to make people wonder... then the medias would have no choice but talk more... or not. If they don't do it, we can be sure thety are staying quite because it's a plot. And if they do... well they will slip new clues...
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