What do you think is the strongest evidence confirming michael still being alive?

by 123mac123 Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:38 pm

by ONESTEPCLOSER Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:40 pm

hmmm not one thing in particular, all the inconsistences and then the message at the end of TII Smile

what about you?

by 123mac123 Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:44 pm

Probably t lack of empathy from the family, and the events that occurred during the ambulance scene.

by ONESTEPCLOSER Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:45 pm

now they are very good points too Very Happy

by mjboogie Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:48 pm

I would definitley say the burial. I mean the movie burial Ha! HA! Also the fact that everyone's story is not consistent and changes constantly. They are not all on one accord u know? And something about that ambulance pic oooooops you only asked for one piece of evidence that mj is alive? Sorrrrrrry

by DarkYetLovely Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:51 pm

Lack of evidence of his death.

by deedee75 Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:01 pm

how his body change form from the hospital to the coroner

by jenn77 Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:23 pm

Dave Dave on LKL because IMO it was not Dave Dave we saw and I cant figure out for the life of me why someone other than Michael would go on national tv posing as Dave. If anyone else did it would have been brought to our attention already by all the media because Dave would obviously persue the man.

by TouchedByAnAngel Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:34 pm

DarkYetLovely wrote:Lack of evidence of his death.

EXACTLY!!!

NO "official" completely filled in and signed by a doctor/coroner death certificate.

NO "official" announcement of death from a doctor

NO "official" autopsy report released. Three supposed autopsies and only leaked info from unknown sources

NO pics of his body....a covered form on a stretcher doesn't count! The ambulance pic is fake. But you can be sure that if MJ was really in that ambulance one of the paramedics/EMT's would have pulled out a cell phone and snapped a pic! With the money they would have made off selling the pic they would be set for life and wouldn't care if they lost their job.

NO real tears or emotion from any family members...even Paris. I'm sorry but the memorial speech by her looked rehearsed, family telling her to speak up, adjusting the microphone, her quickly hiding her face in Janet's body because there were no tears. This was a smart move on the family's part though because the whole world was watching and it did just what they wanted....it made everybody realize he was a good man and father.

No dedication to MJ in the movie or on the cd

The use of Liberian Girl pic at Memorial and Burial services. Out of millions of pics they use this one? He/They are telling us that he is directing it all

All the clues in the movie. If the movie was just rehersal footage there wouldn't be clues. It was taped to be a movie! MJ plays the part of Ballin from the Gilda movie in the Smooth Criminal footage. Ballin faked his death in that movie.

I could go on and on but I don't need to. You all can see...we all can. Anybody who is paying attention and doesn't beLIEve what the media is feeding us can see.

by HonestY Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:36 pm

hi, guys, i'm a new member...
to me, the strongest evidence would be that his pepsi accident was exactly in the middle of MJ's life!!! i started to believe to the hoax when i found out this...it is pretty impossible that it's a coincidence...otherwise, it is very creepy!!!
we all know that it has been a "before" and an "after" this accident...MJ started to physically and mentally suffer from the day he had it...and the medias started to tell weird stories about him from that date (the oxygen tank story, blablabla lol)...i think he chose the day of june 25th on purpose!!!

by 123mac123 Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:40 pm

someone just needs to make a video downright accusing dave dave of being michael jackson, we can all talk about it but someone actually getting a camera out and telling him to talk about it might spark something.

over 28 million people have google searched

Is dave dave michael jackson?

So they guy if he wasn't Michael Jackson in disguise would obviously know people think hes Michael Jackson.

If thats the case why doesnt he just make a video saying hes not michael jackson?

Im totally up for getting him to talk about it, I mean if we want facts we have to be aggressive about some things.

Im thinking if one person makes the video, then we all watch it like 100 times each, send it to everyone, once it gets enough views dave dave will have to reply to it, and if he doesnt, that would be better! Because then we know he is hiding something (which we pretty much think he already is)

Anyone with me?

by tyffanny Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:43 pm

Everything!!! But I think for me it is in TII the Gilda movie .... Its impossible that this is a coincidence! What do you think is the strongest evidence confirming micha Icon_rolleyes

by Sweet1 Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:44 pm

Dr. Murray having given MJ the lethal dose of diprovan and he's walking around as free bird. No arrest nowhere insight. But then again, how can you arrest someone for a homicide that didn't happen. Keep the Faith!

by mjgirl86 Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:49 pm

TouchedByAnAngel wrote:
DarkYetLovely wrote:Lack of evidence of his death.

EXACTLY!!!

NO "official" completely filled in and signed by a doctor/coroner death certificate.

NO "official" announcement of death from a doctor

NO "official" autopsy report released. Three supposed autopsies and only leaked info from unknown sources

NO pics of his body....a covered form on a stretcher doesn't count! The ambulance pic is fake. But you can be sure that if MJ was really in that ambulance one of the paramedics/EMT's would have pulled out a cell phone and snapped a pic! With the money they would have made off selling the pic they would be set for life and wouldn't care if they lost their job.

NO real tears or emotion from any family members...even Paris. I'm sorry but the memorial speech by her looked rehearsed, family telling her to speak up, adjusting the microphone, her quickly hiding her face in Janet's body because there were no tears. This was a smart move on the family's part though because the whole world was watching and it did just what they wanted....it made everybody realize he was a good man and father.

No dedication to MJ in the movie or on the cd

The use of Liberian Girl pic at Memorial and Burial services. Out of millions of pics they use this one? He/They are telling us that he is directing it all

All the clues in the movie. If the movie was just rehersal footage there wouldn't be clues. It was taped to be a movie! MJ plays the part of Ballin from the Gilda movie in the Smooth Criminal footage. Ballin faked his death in that movie.

I could go on and on but I don't need to. You all can see...we all can. Anybody who is paying attention and doesn't beLIEve what the media is feeding us can see.

I knowww right? I was going to post some of this.... that ambulance scene definitely bothers me... yeah, let's ride real slow down the driveway, because this is an emergency...

Oh wait, slow down, so the guy can get a perfect shot!

by jenn77 Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:53 pm

There are too many coincidences!!

someone just needs to make a video downright accusing dave dave of being michael jackson, we can all talk about it but someone actually getting a camera out and telling him to talk about it might spark something.

over 28 million people have google searched

Is dave dave michael jackson?

So they guy if he wasn't Michael Jackson in disguise would obviously know people think hes Michael Jackson.

If thats the case why doesnt he just make a video saying hes not michael jackson?

Im totally up for getting him to talk about it, I mean if we want facts we have to be aggressive about some things.

Im thinking if one person makes the video, then we all watch it like 100 times each, send it to everyone, once it gets enough views dave dave will have to reply to it, and if he doesnt, that would be better! Because then we know he is hiding something (which we pretty much think he already is)

Anyone with me?

If someone makes the vid I'll watch it several times if it will spark something out of Dave.... Btw I read in an article about Dave's accident and it said somewhere in there that Dave went to film school. I googled his name and found that article, irrelevant but I just wanted to share this fact.

by tyffanny Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:56 pm

I totally agree with you Jenn77 Smile

by Lorrie Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:14 pm

Oddly enough, the strongest evidence for me is my personal intuition that he's not dead. I'll be really surprised if I'm wrong, although that could be the case, of course.

The second strongest evidence for me is how so much -- too much, in fact -- doesn't add up, meaning all of the inconsistencies, contradictions, and verbal slip-ups that have come to light since June 25.

by TouchedByAnAngel Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:34 pm

Lorrie wrote:Oddly enough, the strongest evidence for me is my personal intuition that he's not dead. I'll be really surprised if I'm wrong, although that could be the case, of course.

The second strongest evidence for me is how so much -- too much, in fact -- doesn't add up, meaning all of the inconsistencies, contradictions, and verbal slip-ups that have come to light since June 25.

I know EXACTLY what you mean! On another thread I said I am a woman who is lead primarily by my heart and intuition, and I have NEVER had anything hit me like this!

I don't care how improbable my feelings on this may seem to others. I know there are many of us who have been "touched" by Michael. It is just something that you KNOW.

by mjgirl86 Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:36 pm

Totally, totally agree Lorrie. Way too much that doesn't add up, and it's crazy how many posts and threads we have in just these few months Smile

That says a lot!

by speechlessornot Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:14 am

Fact that the so-called MJ's 'death' is still under discussion.Yes, he was Michael Jackson but there were more other celebrities who died during the last period of time and everything was clear from the very beginning. Too many 'coincidences', lack of clear evidence , lack of any sign of pain and regrets from his siblings and very close friends ( I was crying one week when my love bird died and I'm still missing it !!!!), his life style during the last years and the fact that Michael gave us clues about his possible 'disappearance' (see the interview of 1994 when he said that at the time when his life would become a nightmare he would do something to disappear from the public's sights).
And at last, but not the least, it's my feelings. I am sure he's alive. I cannot explain why but I know it. And I am not a fan. I am here just because I was so intrigued by this sudden and strange 'death' and I'm trying to understand how he did it !

by ILuvUMoreMJ Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:20 am

If I had to pick something it would probably be the lack of any officials speaking about the issues surrounding his death, or at least leaking info or photos...not hospital staff, EMT's, LAPD, coroners, etc. It's Michael freaking Jackson, for goodness sake!!! And no one's talking? Rolling Eyes

There are just way too many inconsistencies for them all to ignore.

by Do Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:01 am

jenn77 wrote:There are too many coincidences!!

someone just needs to make a video downright accusing dave dave of being michael jackson, we can all talk about it but someone actually getting a camera out and telling him to talk about it might spark something.

over 28 million people have google searched

Is dave dave michael jackson?

So they guy if he wasn't Michael Jackson in disguise would obviously know people think hes Michael Jackson.

If thats the case why doesnt he just make a video saying hes not michael jackson?

Im totally up for getting him to talk about it, I mean if we want facts we have to be aggressive about some things.

Im thinking if one person makes the video, then we all watch it like 100 times each, send it to everyone, once it gets enough views dave dave will have to reply to it, and if he doesnt, that would be better! Because then we know he is hiding something (which we pretty much think he already is)

Anyone with me?

If someone makes the vid I'll watch it several times if it will spark something out of Dave.... Btw I read in an article about Dave's accident and it said somewhere in there that Dave went to film school. I googled his name and found that article, irrelevant but I just wanted to share this fact.

Jenn77, for me was Dave Dave the strongest evidence, but I found this answer of Cassandra (not saying that I'm really convinced she is honest, in fact, I think she's fake) and now I don't know anymore! Or maybe she has to hide the truth a little big longer. Everytime when there's a question asked about giving evidence about Michael really is alive, she's not reacting or the questions dissapear.

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Another question, I wonder if Michael Jackson went to Larry King Live program disguised as Dave Dave, much discussed in the network, but I do not think there disfreazado appeared anywhere. [Marisa, no, he did not. Cassandra]

MARISA 11 November 2009 at 4pm

by Do Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:04 am

sorry, typo, I meant a little BIT longer

by Kuki Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:15 am

TouchedByAnAngel wrote:
DarkYetLovely wrote:Lack of evidence of his death.

EXACTLY!!!

NO "official" completely filled in and signed by a doctor/coroner death certificate.

NO "official" announcement of death from a doctor

NO "official" autopsy report released. Three supposed autopsies and only leaked info from unknown sources

NO pics of his body....a covered form on a stretcher doesn't count! The ambulance pic is fake. But you can be sure that if MJ was really in that ambulance one of the paramedics/EMT's would have pulled out a cell phone and snapped a pic! With the money they would have made off selling the pic they would be set for life and wouldn't care if they lost their job.

NO real tears or emotion from any family members...even Paris. I'm sorry but the memorial speech by her looked rehearsed, family telling her to speak up, adjusting the microphone, her quickly hiding her face in Janet's body because there were no tears. This was a smart move on the family's part though because the whole world was watching and it did just what they wanted....it made everybody realize he was a good man and father.

No dedication to MJ in the movie or on the cd

The use of Liberian Girl pic at Memorial and Burial services. Out of millions of pics they use this one? He/They are telling us that he is directing it all

All the clues in the movie. If the movie was just rehersal footage there wouldn't be clues. It was taped to be a movie! MJ plays the part of Ballin from the Gilda movie in the Smooth Criminal footage. Ballin faked his death in that movie.

I could go on and on but I don't need to. You all can see...we all can. Anybody who is paying attention and doesn't beLIEve what the media is feeding us can see.

All of these and the DD on LKL! And of course the-free-as-a-bird Murray! There are so many things of which I think: that isn't right!

by Gema Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:43 am

123mac123 wrote:What do you think is the strongest evidence confirming michael still being alive?

1-All the contradictions and the lack of CLEAR evidence and legal documents confirming his death.
2-All the photoshopped pics and staged videos that has been presented on the news.
3-All the marketing, and neverending reports of news around his persona and music legacy....he is more in the news now than he was for a couple of years!

I am honest, I am 50% - 50% but if would not be for the media circus and the pathetic investigation going on, I would think 100% that he has been murdered.

by forevermine_mj Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:52 am

yes for me the family behaviour, lack of strong proof n we r yet to see any 'dead' body What do you think is the strongest evidence confirming micha Icon_rolleyes

by Harleyblonde Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:15 am

Very good question.
I think though that ALL the evidence makes the hoax more believable, just one or two irregularities you can understand but there are so many that not one in particular is to me more important than the others as together they give a very solid concrete case and give us more belief and faith in our claims that Michael is still alive.
From the very first day and the announcement of Michaels "passing" by his brother Jermaine and not from a Doctor or member of hospital staff as is the norm to me was the start. Clues, inconsistancies and illegularities since then have been coming thick and fast. I do not mean either some theories such as "is MJ Dave Dave"? or messages from MJ via Cassandra which no one at all can prove is concrete evidence, I am talking good solid facts which we can see with our own eyes. To me not one specifically stand out but all together gives us a very strong belief and each clue if you like is a small fire cracker but all together are absolute dynamite!!
Have faith guys, we will soon have enough clues to fill a book.

by Léa Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:24 am

I would say...

1. The Ambulance scene.
2. The behavior of his family and children
3. The fact that MJ was quite strange sometimes.
4. the Peter Pan thing.
5. All the incoherencies.

It just isn't right !

by wandulka Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:39 am

Everything surrounding his death doesn't make sense. Where's doc Murray? Why did the Jackson family act like nothing happened two days after Michael's death? How come the burial was staged? Why does Kenny keep posting weird tweets? Why did Michael use a scene from the movie Gilda in TII? Why does TMZ keep releasing private things about Michael? It's like they are hardly trying to convince us that he's dead...

by mjgirl86 Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:43 am

I just hate when people say "Michael would never do this!!"

Um, and you know this because why? Oh, and you know what situation he was in too, huh... you're just so certain, that's.. that's great, yeah.

by Gema Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:48 am

mjgirl86 wrote:I just hate when people say "Michael would never do this!!"

Um, and you know this because why? Oh, and you know what situation he was in too, huh... you're just so certain, that's.. that's great, yeah.

For any "normal" citizen, to put your kids in your memorial and funeral is a bit twisted, unless the kids know what´s going on and honestly, the little boy, Blanket, is just 7!! a 7 year old exposed to that situation is somenthing I saw bizarre from the very first second I saw his face on the memorial.

Only if I think that they told the boy that he was part of a movie, only then, I can see the whole scenario less cruel.

by MJJ1982 Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:50 am

My feeling is like an evidence to me too. I don't have the feeling that he's gone.

by mjthekingofpop Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:05 am

the strongest evidence is that we haven't seen any dead body of mj so far. the photo of the ambulance has already proved to be a fake one.
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by 123mac123 Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:06 am

I think we can All agree the number one thing proving hes still alive is the amount of inconsistencies.

by Léa Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:32 am

123mac123 wrote:I think we can All agree the number one thing proving hes still alive is the amount of inconsistencies.

Yes, and everytime someone believe he' dead, I just have to point out all the strange things and they start to wonder. I just told my brother ( he's 13) and now he wonders. He said " but why no one have seen the body ? "

even for him, who does't care about MJ, all the inconsticencie are too strange to be honest ^^

by tayl0rx4 Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:43 am

All of these and the DD on LKL! And of course the-free-as-a-bird Murray! There are so many things of which I think: that isn't right!

LOL! I love your signature picture!!

I agree with everyone opinions! This is a murder, and the only one who would be accused of this crime is Murray and 4 months later he is still walking around as a free man!! WTF?! And we all know th paps [paparatiz] would have gotten a picture of the family visited forrest lawn. but they havent!! Which means they havent visited Michaels crypt which means he isnt in there!!

by MJsAngelEyes1987 Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:57 am

What I also thought was a bit weird to me is, what was on the screen at the memorial when it said "I'm alive & I'm here forever."
I mean, that really threw me off quite a bit. Plus, the changing of the part of the lyrics from "Will You Be There" when it said Pain{s} w/ an S at the end, when it should've originally been "Pain" w/o the S & I'm certain MJ never would've recorded it in that way at all since there wasn't any original recording of that.

by labkomj7 Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:01 am

Extra "S" on the word Pain in Will you be there song during his memorial...for me its a huge clue for us fans... Wink

by shusc140 Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:20 am

Michael disguised as Dave Dave in Larry King Show.

by infinitylady Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:22 am

The ambulance picture. If that won't fake I don't know what is.

by Thetruth Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:26 am

Strongest Evidence of Michael being alive:

* No charges yet on Dr. Murray… if justice exists….

* Inconsistence stories, it should have been an open and shut case.

* My personal intentions

* Michael’s dreams about a change

by MissLady Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:35 am

I agree with the 'S' on pain, that was HUGE! I can imagine Michael "hmmmm let me just throw an S on the end of this word and see how many people notice..." hehe... sneaky! What do you think is the strongest evidence confirming micha Icon_rr

Gosh it's hard to pick just one though. I think what does it is all the inconsistencies added up all together. But as far as hard evidence, that if I had to pick just one, the part that has always stuck out the most to me is the whole ambulance "scene". Multiple vids, multiple pics, that PROVE there was multiple 'takes'...

by MJsAngelEyes1987 Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:43 am

You're right about that!!!

And oh yeah, to MissLady, I LOVE your signature GIF pic!!!! Awesome!!!

by MissLady Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:48 am

MJsAngelEyes1987 wrote:You're right about that!!!

And oh yeah, to MissLady, I LOVE your signature GIF pic!!!! Awesome!!!

Thank you! What do you think is the strongest evidence confirming micha Icon_biggrin

...... he's total hotness in that gif What do you think is the strongest evidence confirming micha Herz

hehe

by Kirsche Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:20 pm

What was the strongest evidences for me are the whole june 25th and the interview with Ben Evenstat whre he slips up

by rowdyangel Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:25 pm

Far too may things so I can't single out one particular thing that for me is the strongest evidence confirming that Michael is alive.

All of it doesn't add up.

However, if I were to be pushed on it, I would say that the 'fake Michael hopping out of the coroners van video' was actually NOT fake and RTL claimed it as their own for the purpose of damage control was the major thing for me.

by Léa Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:37 pm

rowdyangel wrote:Far too may things so I can't single out one particular thing that for me is the strongest evidence confirming that Michael is alive.

All of it doesn't add up.

However, if I were to be pushed on it, I would say that the 'fake Michael hopping out of the coroners van video' was actually NOT fake and RTL claimed it as their own for the purpose of damage control was the major thing for me.

Maybe, because it really did convince me. It was discreet, quick and Michael could have done that. I mean he has to move sometimes and if he does he would do this quietly, not wearing a feodora or something as some said on Michael Sightings. This was absolutely private like, not a lot of people nor paparazzi...

by EarthAngel90 Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:44 pm

labkomj7 wrote:Extra "S" on the word Pain in Will you be there song during his memorial...for me its a huge clue for us fans...

That was my same evidence too !

Here are my Three ....

1. The Family wasn't mourning like they should ...!
2. The Funerals were real but felt like a movie !
3. Everything in the last 5 Months don't make sense!

by See Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:48 pm

If you add up all the things we found out, it makes ONE HUGE clue LOL

by mjgirl86 Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:50 pm

Agreed. That bothers me the most, how the funerals seemed more like a Hollywood movie scene......

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