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Post by Confused on Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:13 am

I found this video on MJHD. There is some footage I've never seen before. The person on MJHD claims to see a person/Michael at 0.48 inside the firetruck..I don't see it. I do see a white mask like the one Michael used to put over his mouth but it is too blurry to really make something out of it. Nevertheless all the other footage is quite interesting...especially around 2.05. The video was posted yesterday. I wonder where this person got the footage from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfABPUqYDtA
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Post by StripedFeline on Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:38 am

I reckon it could be just a mask hung up maybe.
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Post by MJFOREVER on Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:41 am

wth??? where and what is that footage at 2.05???
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Post by Confused on Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:45 am

StripedFeline wrote:I reckon it could be just a mask hung up maybe.

Probably. But I am more intruiged by what is going on around from 2.05 on..Never saw that before and it is too dark to really see what exactly is going on.
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Post by Confused on Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:47 am

MJFOREVER wrote:wth??? where and what is that footage at 2.05???

I wish I knew. Never before seen footage? Icon_biggrin Strange thing is that it says ET so did ET air this in the US...? Has anyone from the States seen this footage before?
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Post by MJFOREVER on Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:06 am

Its a night footage, isnt that a car where they move dead people in??? Never before seen footage? Icon_cry Never before seen footage? Icon_question
They putting a body in that car Never before seen footage? Icon_neutral Never before seen footage? Kopfschuettel Never before seen footage? Confused

Somebody said that the moved the body out at night and not in the helicopter like you saw on tv.
It was something we discusted here to i think it was with somebody sending a cop an email right??


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Post by shasta2001 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:10 am

Confused wrote:
MJFOREVER wrote:wth??? where and what is that footage at 2.05???

I wish I knew. Never before seen footage? Icon_biggrin Strange thing is that it says ET so did ET air this in the US...? Has anyone from the States seen this footage before?

I have not seen it and why is it dark?
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Post by smoothcriminal2792 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:21 am

Confused wrote:
MJFOREVER wrote:wth??? where and what is that footage at 2.05???

I wish I knew. Never before seen footage? Icon_biggrin Strange thing is that it says ET so did ET air this in the US...? Has anyone from the States seen this footage before?
I live here in the US, but i have never seen that before Never before seen footage? Icon_scratch it looks like they swapped something.....
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:28 am

IS THIS another message, is this todays clue ?
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Post by Tenschi on Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:40 am

The helicopter could have been a decoy. Who the hell knows anymore. OH, MY BRAIN...

MJ, I love ya and I'm certainly not going to give up the search for the truth but damn, this is driving me NUTS! Never before seen footage? Lol
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Post by nellyka7 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:20 am

yeah, i cant see whats going on at 2:05 its really dark.
It looks like they're on stairs because everyone is on different levels, and they are pickiing something up
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:54 pm

That is really strange...I've never seen the footage at 2:05. Suspect
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Post by StripedFeline on Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:01 pm

Why the hell would they need to swap corpses? Okay, this is really confusing me now. Sad I wonder why more speculation hasn't risen from that footage?
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Post by Kirsche on Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:03 pm

I' ve never seen that footage at 2:05 before Suspect

Is that Forest Lawn?
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Post by Kirsche on Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:10 pm

StripedFeline wrote:Why the hell would they need to swap corpses? Okay, this is really confusing me now. Sad I wonder why more speculation hasn't risen from that footage?

maybe it was Dimitries Body they swapped? who knows?? Maye this is just another Corpse they've swapped and this was decoy...
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Post by lotus1 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:26 pm

Kirsche wrote:I' ve never seen that footage at 2:05 before Never before seen footage? Suspect

Is that Forest Lawn?

Yes, it was at Forest Lawn and you could only view it online...I forget if it was the night before or the same night as his private viewing, it was like 2am EST...I remember sobbing and feeling deathly ill watching it! Never before seen footage? Icon_sad
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Post by nellyka7 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:18 pm

MJFOREVER wrote:Its a night footage, isnt that a car where they move dead people in??? Never before seen footage? Icon_cry Never before seen footage? Icon_question
They putting a body in that car Never before seen footage? Icon_neutral Never before seen footage? Kopfschuettel Never before seen footage? Confused

Somebody said that the moved the body out at night and not in the helicopter like you saw on tv.
It was something we discusted here to i think it was with somebody sending a cop an email right??

yeah i heard that too, but im not sure about what thread its on.
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Post by hesouttamylife on Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:37 pm

No. No. No This doesn't look good and it's making me sad again.. Sad When he does the sign of the cross and throws his hand to the sky, and it ends, I cannot take it. It looks like he's saying I've done my best and now I'm yours. Oh God. I don't like this feeling. It is taking me back to 6/25/09, the day the earth stood still. I don't like it one bit.
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:45 pm

I don't see it at all ... I must be blind ...
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Post by LiberianGirl on Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:50 pm

EarthAngel90 wrote:I don't see it at all ... I must be blind ...

I don't either. Why does it make you sad? That can be anyone they put in that car. And probably that's not even related to Michael.
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Post by nellyka7 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:55 pm

LiberianGirl wrote:
EarthAngel90 wrote:I don't see it at all ... I must be blind ...

I don't either. Why does it make you sad? That can be anyone they put in that car. And probably that's not even related to Michael.
Hopefully, no one is in there.
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:03 pm

If you look closely, it looks like there are two bodies being rolled out.
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Post by Christiana on Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:59 pm

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:If you look closely, it looks like there are two bodies being rolled out.

I think it's too dark and grainy to say for sure what we're seeing. But I can tell you that I watched the video before reading all the comments so I wouldn't be aware of what I'm supposed to be seeing. And what I saw was a body going in, and a stretcher (or something similar) coming out....not a body coming out. I watched it 3 times, and that's just what I see.

I wish we could get a clearer video of this...but probably there isn't one since it was so dark when/where it was shot.
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Post by Christiana on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:06 am

I found another video too...it's not any clearer, but it does have some commentary with it from when it was broadcast, in case anyone wants to see/hear it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEFI8SRhFjs
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Post by Peace on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:12 am

At 2:05 the ET emblem looks FAKE. I've examined multiple ET youtubes, and the emblem is always smaller and shines.

Oh nevermind, just saw the youtube with commentary. Now i'm really confused.


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Post by Neversaynever on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:14 am

Could someone have simply added this in? Maybe it's not even MJ related - they are using it to make their video more popular. Are we certain this was shown at some point? Also, after MJ makes the sign of the cross -what does the sign language symbolize? Maybe it all ties in... curious.
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Post by Christiana on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:31 am

Neversaynever wrote:Could someone have simply added this in? Maybe it's not even MJ related - they are using it to make their video more popular. Are we certain this was shown at some point? Also, after MJ makes the sign of the cross -what does the sign language symbolize? Maybe it all ties in... curious.

The second video I posted a link to was uploaded July 7--and that is the only coverage on it, the body and the hearse.
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Post by Peace on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:41 am

Maybe the audio was from something else? Somewhere else. Even though they said, they've turned the lights out.

Anythings possible, now.
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Post by texasbornandraised on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:52 am

This may help to answer your question look at the 4:26 mark of the film


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5ZkOqSSmkw
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Post by texasbornandraised on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:14 am

Some one mention the helicopter being a deversion. But what I want to know is why there were two helicopters. The one that took "Michael" and then one to the left that had the blades going like it was ready to go.
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