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Post by Airun on Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:08 pm

Evidence that the O2 is a double. It is in Spanish but I hope you can translate. Thank you.

http://mjestavivo.creatuforo.com/por-fin-tema134.html
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Post by Rach on Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:10 pm

Can you give us the general giste of it please? I don't speak Spanish or know how to translate!

Thanks Smile
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Post by aamj07 on Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:13 pm

Anyone able to translate this??
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Post by Airun on Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:19 pm

Just wanted to share with you. Apart from the nose plate, lack of adams apple, cover constantly left Arm where emichael had the marks of vitiligo . As you see here:

http://images.google.es/imgres…..lr%3D%26rl



http://translate.google.es/tra…..foro5.html


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Post by Airun on Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:32 pm

You can see all the pics of O2 conference in 2009 http://www.mjjpictures.com/main.html

All time he is hiding his left arm(not fingers). And when he shows it he's got a protection tonot to see that no spots of Vitiligo.
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Post by annieisnotokey on Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:06 pm

Basically, they are saying it's not MJ because:

- The nose looks like made of silly putty
- Has a bad wig
- He hides his right hand & arm all the time because he doesn't have the vitiligo spots the real MJ has
- Some x-rated comparisons with the golden pants that I'm not going to translate, but you get the idea Wink
- He has no Adam's apple
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Post by Rach on Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:11 pm

@ annieisnotokey

Thanks for that! OMFG as if they even brought up Gold Pants! Looks like we aren't the only one's who noticed Michael's erm talent Razz
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Post by Sweet1 on Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:42 pm

I knew from the time that press conference was released in the media that it wasn't the real MJ. That double was an unprofessional idiot that did a horrific imitation of MJ. I recall the fans that were present at the conference felt it wasn't really MJ either. I am sorry but apparently the double fooled the media/press. He's the last press conference of MJ and he's always on the news shows as MJ's last public appearance. He's also in alot of the Tribute magazines that are being sold. I told myself I am not going to buy another Tribute magazine if his picture is in as MJ. Everytime, I see him I want to throw up literally. I become nauseous! MJ was a professional and very handsome.
This guy is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Ugly! Keep the Faith!
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Post by emanviam on Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:00 pm

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Post by EarthAngel90 on Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:58 pm

I had the strongest feeling that wasn't Real M.J. in the first place and I notice that he no spots from His Condition and His Nose was Funny Looking - I am not insulting him but Michael's Nose is Perfect but the Imposter's Nose was off and Wonderful Wink "Tool" Wink ... how you say ummm... I won't detail that but you know what I meant... and No Adam's Apple scratch - Strange on that Bit and The Wig was so Obvious to me Rolling Eyes ... and The Makeup - "O2"Arena Michael was same shade as ME Shocked (I am African -American by the Way)... I don't think Michael got a "Instant" Tan for the Fake Announcement !!!!
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Post by SeeingClues on Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:13 am

I posted this on the other forum but wanted to get your thoughts.
Check out this clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyYtVG6I8n0&feature=related

the thing is..if this was a body double…where did he come from? I've never seen him before. MJ was actually in London, so it wasn't like he couldn't just talk. Getting a body double that good in place would have had to have been planned out way in advance. Now there was a point when O2 guy raised his eyebrows and they did look like MJ's.
The other doubles I've seen like Navi and such look obviously not to be MJ up close. I think they are used more for distance views to throw off the Paps. But to use a double for a globally televised press conference is unprecedented…what if the double said something wrong? Wouldn't they have given the double a premade speech instead of letting the double adlib?
In this video from Japan in 2007 there are mannerisms that are similiar to O2 guy.

:48 Pose looks very similiar to an O2 guy pose
1:37 – the hand to the mouth, almost identical to what O2 guy did
1:51 – grabbing the mike, like O2 guy
1:56 - this smile is very similiar to O2 guy
1:57 – this laugh is similiar to the laugh O2 guy made when he said that “this will be the final curtain call..because of…”..
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:07 am

you're right SeeingClues.

I don't know what to to think lol geek
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Post by StenniZ on Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:02 am

I asked a (Spanish) friend of mine to translate the Spanish post mentioned by Airun. I expect to receive the translation within a couple of hours...
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Post by ilprincipe on Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:37 am

I`m looking forward to it, stenni Smile
I never believed that o2 guy is MJ.
Of course there are arguments for the hoax that this
was indeed MJ (so he just pretended his weird behaviour and so on)....
but I`m more convinced it was not MJ...

and the wig was really fugly *lol*
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Post by MJFOREVER on Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:04 am

even my mom said when we saw the o2 press conference that is not michael jackson:P but i dont know:S:P we cant proof it:S
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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:27 am

"Please dont laugh whan I put these on"

Michael said that about his glasses.

NO Michael noone would laugh, You looked so hot.

He said the same thing as the 02.

hmm, I dont know anymore
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Post by phoenix on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:17 am

lol it seems to me like everyone is into gold pants nowdays...i am getting jealous...loool
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Post by MJFOREVER on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:27 am

MyBelovedMJ wrote:"Please dont laugh whan I put these on"

Michael said that about his glasses.

NO Michael noone would laugh, You looked so hot.

He said the same thing as the 02.

hmm, I dont know anymore


?? i dont get it:P sorry my brains are not working today:P
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Post by Airun on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:27 am

Please escuse me because the diferent hours here en Europe.
i take you the translated Link. Please if you can look one by one all the pics of O2 to see wel what they say.

(First of it I want to tell you thats not my intention
offend the double. So please i pray for respect because that his safe was vital to help Michael to his escape. Whoever deserves our respect were or not were Michael)



Also a information: Nut here is your adams apple

http://translate.google.es/translate?prev=hp&hl=es&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mjestavivo.creatuforo.com%2Fpor-fin-tema134.html&sl=es&tl=en&history_state0=
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Post by michaeljacksonvivo on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:30 am

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Translate (sorry to my bad english):

In the second photo you can see in his nose that there are something added as a filler, to have a nose like MJ. He has much wakeup to avoid being the differences. But it see that there are different textures. This added texture continues until the glasses. In the first picture looks better.

Furthermore, hiding his left hand, which is supposed to have brands of vitiligo.

More photos in: http://www.mjjpictures.com/main.html (year 2009, apparence)


Now, understand us?


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Post by mjj29081958 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:45 am

MJFOREVER wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:"Please dont laugh whan I put these on"

Michael said that about his glasses.

NO Michael noone would laugh, You looked so hot.

He said the same thing as the 02.

hmm, I dont know anymore


?? i dont get it:P sorry my brains are not working today:P

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Post by mir26 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:48 am

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this is MJ looking at the audience at the conference,he really looks like Mike here,although It almost looks like the MJ on the stage had much more make-up on idk
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Post by Airun on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:55 am

Yes. He is Michael i see, but also it's not the same that speak in front the public. Why? Because he don't want to say lies to his fans? (also diferent pics of diferent Michael we see on the conference photos)
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Post by SeeingClues on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:25 am

but isn't he still saying a lie by putting someone else out there and fooling the fans? By not going out there yourself?

That would be ridiculous if it's clearly him at the conference but then he doesn't go on stage? This is just too bizarre..
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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:27 am

mjj29081958 wrote:
MJFOREVER wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:"Please dont laugh whan I put these on"

Michael said that about his glasses.

NO Michael noone would laugh, You looked so hot.

He said the same thing as the 02.

hmm, I dont know anymore


?? i dont get it:P sorry my brains are not working today:P

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Post by Smelly on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:28 am

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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:32 am

Look at his nails in the 2nd pic.
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Post by DawneVee on Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:25 pm

michaeljacksonvivo wrote:Realy O2 was a doule. See it 067Realy O2 was a doule. See it 060

Translate (sorry to my bad english):

In the second photo you can see in his nose that there are something added as a filler, to have a nose like MJ. He has much wakeup to avoid being the differences. But it see that there are different textures. This added texture continues until the glasses. In the first picture looks better.

Furthermore, hiding his left hand, which is supposed to have brands of vitiligo.

More photos in: http://www.mjjpictures.com/main.html (year 2009, apparence)


Now, understand us?


Ewww...gross...lol. You can definitly see the gobs of make up on the fella. It looks like it's about to run off...lol.
Nice try imposter
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Post by DawneVee on Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:27 pm

mir26 wrote:Realy O2 was a doule. See it Potw_02


this is MJ looking at the audience at the conference,he really looks like Mike here,although It almost looks like the MJ on the stage had much more make-up on idk

I first seen this picture today on the MJHD forum and right off the bat, I said 'now that's Michael'. I never said that about the O2 guy...ever...lol.
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Post by SmoothCriminal on Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:40 pm

DawneVee wrote:
michaeljacksonvivo wrote:Realy O2 was a doule. See it 067Realy O2 was a doule. See it 060

Translate (sorry to my bad english):

In the second photo you can see in his nose that there are something added as a filler, to have a nose like MJ. He has much wakeup to avoid being the differences. But it see that there are different textures. This added texture continues until the glasses. In the first picture looks better.

Furthermore, hiding his left hand, which is supposed to have brands of vitiligo.

More photos in: http://www.mjjpictures.com/main.html (year 2009, apparence)


Now, understand us?


Ewww...gross...lol. You can definitly see the gobs of make up on the fella. It looks like it's about to run off...lol.
Nice try imposter
.

Lol yah wtf is up with the caked on make up ewww Razz Less is more did he not learn that
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Post by annieisnotokey on Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:48 pm

So real MJ and fake MJ went to the O2 conference?

Real MJ peeks at the audience, decides he won't go on stage and makes fake MJ give the "speech" for him??

I'm starting to believe that's the case... I'm going insane, aren't I? Shocked
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Post by MJFOREVER on Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:35 am

DawneVee wrote:
mir26 wrote:Realy O2 was a doule. See it Potw_02


this is MJ looking at the audience at the conference,he really looks like Mike here,although It almost looks like the MJ on the stage had much more make-up on idk

I first seen this picture today on the MJHD forum and right off the bat, I said 'now that's Michael'. I never said that about the O2 guy...ever...lol.

I thought that exact same thing lol!
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:29 am

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lol! DITTO!
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Post by SmoothCriminal on Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:44 am

EarthAngel90 wrote:
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lol! DITTO!

Lmao im past crazy at this stage Razz
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Post by PinkLizard on Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:27 am

@ Smelly - LMAO, that's exactly what I look like today!! Smile
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Post by Smelly on Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:31 am

LOL, I look it AND feel it Surprised
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Post by Airun on Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:46 am

Maybe the real one would'nt tell lies to his fans(also as i sayd before, he never done a public speche with sunglasses, only thes one https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=michael+jackson+speech&search_type=&aq=f). I really think we've got 2 Michaels here. The "courtain" Michael an the Speaking double. Please they look too diferent.

I tink so I'M GOING CRAZYYYYY Wink
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Post by SeeingClues on Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:54 am

perhaps it was him but they loaded a crap of makeup on him first...his speech was 90 minutes late. It would be so crazy for him to actually dress up and be there just to have someone else say "this is it".."this is it"...it's not like the double made this elequent speech..lol
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Post by Airun on Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:03 am

Please somebody have the video of this moment( courtain moment)? It could help us. Tanks.
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Post by annieisnotokey on Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:23 pm

SeeingClues wrote:perhaps it was him but they loaded a crap of makeup on him first...his speech was 90 minutes late. It would be so crazy for him to actually dress up and be there just to have someone else say "this is it".."this is it"...it's not like the double made this elequent speech..lol

Looks like they spent the whole 90 minutes caking on the makeup!! lol!
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:29 pm

Airun wrote:Please somebody have the video of this moment( courtain moment)? It could help us. Tanks.

Yea...I wanna see it too.
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Post by loudy on Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:35 pm

lol!
PinkLizard wrote:@ Smelly - LMAO, that's exactly what I look like today!! Smile
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Post by yaya on Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:50 pm

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this is MJ looking at the audience at the conference,he really looks like Mike here,although It almost looks like the MJ on the stage had much more make-up on idk

now i agree in this pic, that looks just like michael. if this is the real michael (which i think is) and not the one who gave the speech, at what point during the whole thing did he peek out of the curtain and then go back behind it? if you get what i'm trying to say...
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Post by SeeingClues on Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:11 pm

who took this pic?

Now the MJ here has stubble while the guy who did the speech does not. Is MJ the guy with the camera? This is bizarre..
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Post by MJfan777 on Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:31 am

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Post by nlb on Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:42 am

annieisnotokey wrote:
SeeingClues wrote:perhaps it was him but they loaded a crap of makeup on him first...his speech was 90 minutes late. It would be so crazy for him to actually dress up and be there just to have someone else say "this is it".."this is it"...it's not like the double made this elequent speech..lol

Looks like they spent the whole 90 minutes caking on the makeup!! lol!

LMAO- that's exactly what I thought!! lol!
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Post by MJfan777 on Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:05 am

Realy O2 was a doule. See it 350t

was he using lisptick to icrease his lips??


i dont know who is real or not, but i think are the same ppl
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and that stain?
something to change de 'color' of skin face? or his nails?
weird!
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and WTH is that??
GLUE???
lol
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and my fav...almost my obession deatil: a 'bracelet'' in his right arm.
i dont think MJ would to take all the time and put again that 'bracelet''...

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Post by MJfan777 on Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:16 am

and the diference between the 2 MJ (March 5 and march 6)

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or he was using a kind of mask, rubber i dont know... or was not him o_o
his fringe is different, that 'hair' over the forehead (not fringe lol), smile, those marks in his cheeks when he smiles ...teeth
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:31 am

Lipstick , yes , he weared lipstick very often, almost all the time.
His nails, look like his nails.. (brown)
Skin color can be the make-up

His hair, glue, yes possible, he weared a wig.

For the others ..I really don't know...

I'm very tired today. And I'm confused about everything...
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Post by Black_Orchid on Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:01 am

In my opinion....
1. The nose seems different
2. The colour of the skin is darker (Michael was lighter all the time)
3. The wig was put all over his face as they wanted to hide something (maybe the ears)
4. Look at the lines of the hand (i can't find the pictures right now)
5. There's a video on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdDymH1RBSM. Here you can find the answers (sry if it was posted before). The "THANK YOU ALL" part is the most convincing.
6. The way the guy walks and moves all the time as he was permanently nervous
7. He barely speaks and keeps repeating "This is it"
8. Seems like he is taller than the real Michael
9. He has "too much teeth" in front Smile) lol!
That's all I can say right now. I love you
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