Michael's Smile and the O2 Imposter

I tell you, this is driving me mad. I am so fixated on the O2 imposter because I just know it is NOT Michael. Since I know it is not Michael, it is driving me crazy trying to figure out why he was sent.

I have 2 topics for discussion here. The first one is that I spent the afternoon going through every single picture on MJJPictures.com in the 2005 category. There are hundreds of them, and in every single picture where Michael appears to be happy with his world famous BIG SMILE the top row and the bottom row of his teeth are "ALWAYS" and I mean ALWAYS together when he smiles. I tried to find at least ONE picture of him smiling in a way similar to the O2 smile (teeth apart) and I could find none.

Now if Michael was not planning on a hoax death, I can't for the life of me figure out WHY he would send out an imposter. For what reason? There always has to be a motive and I cannot think of one. BUT if he was planning the hoax, it would make perfect sense for him to send out doubles in the year or so previous to his "passing"

Like we have all said, it almost as if Michael wanted to confuse the public about his looks. Sometimes he would appear, most of the time with his entire face covered in some way or another, other times his obvious doubles would go out into public. (Think the 2007 visit to the military base in Japan).

So he confuses the world. No one is 1005 certain what Michael Jackson looks like when we finally arrive at 2009.

The O2 imposter is the face he presents to the world.

Now his rehearsal videos - you know at first I though, OK, that has to be MJ, because he moves just like him - and no one else can do that right? But after watching several videos of Earnest Valentino, I saw that Earnest could move and dance like MJ to a T! He had even the tiniest movements and mannerisms perfected.

So why the O2 imposter. Why does Michael look like Michael in the rehearsal footage? The rehearsal MJ doesnt even look like the imposter. There has to be a motive for this.

This is what is driving me crazy. Why wouldnt he appear himself even if he was planning on hoaxing his death? I just dont understand it. Why would he need to present an Imposter in order to put his plan into action?

Also, I was on another site yesterday and someone wrote out what the O2 man said when you play it in reverse. It was very interesting and quite ominous, but I would have to go back and find it in order to post it here.

So my question is: Assuming that the O2 man was an imposter what was the motive? How would that fit into the hoax?

I think you may have answered your own question. To see if people can be fooled. I mean how many times have we seen the O2 guy's picture in the paper since June 25th? Hundreds. Everytime a story is printed that is the picture they use so Michael has succeeded in fooling the media. All except TMZ. They NEVER use that picture. They tend to use old pictures of Michael, and most of them are from 2005/2006. Could this be because they know it isn't him?!

I DIDNT KNOW THAT RACHEL!! So TMZ to date has never used the O2 Michael in their reporting. Now that is an interesting fact. Hmmmm, you are right, everyone in every report (MSM) on his "passing" uses the O2 Michael.

LOL I have to laugh because TMZ didnt use it for a reason.

OK So that further backs the claim that it wasnt him. So MAYBE when the comeback happens, the very first thing he will say was "That was so not obviously me! and all of you didnt even see that and just reported it anyway"

Also, I have heard people mention (including JonellTV) that the audience at the O2 seemed staged and fake in some way. Not sure what that means.

There are shots of the imposter from behind where you can clearly see both him and the audience / crowd. I guess Michael's real fans would know that wasn't him? Trying to understand the motive for having a staged audience.

I'm also working on understanding the timeline between the announcement and MJ coming back to the states, which never made sense to me. For some reason he wanted his "passing" to occur while he was here in CA, and also directly across the street from Elvis' previous residence.

Could be Rachel, TMZ have been leading on this story from day 1.
TMZ I feel are in on this, there's no way a tabloid website leads on something as serious as a death on gossip yes but not the truth.

Also Harvey was very sure MJ didn't fake his death, how could he be so sure - did he see MJ's body????

When Heath Ledger died I watched the full coverage on Sky News and as far as I can remember TMZ were not leading on this story it was reliable news stations that were leading.

agree with Rach! He wanted to check out, if it works.
I was also annoyed that the media (exept TMZ) always chooses the pics of the fugly imposter for
their current reports...
that's so ridiculous...

In regards to the audience being a fake I'm not too sure about that and only because of one reason. Most of you know who I mean when I say Perez guy! Well there is video footage of him been at other Michael Jackson events so I think he is a genuine fan. I think he follows him wherever he goes - and yes he is always that crazy!!!!

Also Dermot O'Leary (the guy who announced Michael on stage) said in an interview he only got asked the day BEFORE to introduce Michael on stage so I think it was a very quick planned thing.

I agree that hardcore fans, like us, know straight away it's not Michael but just think of how many people wouldn't question it because they were shell shocked at seeing who they thought was the real deal. Have you guys seen how they reacted to Navi and he doesn't look half as much like Michael as O2 guy does!!!

Rachel wrote:In regards to the audience being a fake I'm not too sure about that and only because of one reason. Most of you know who I mean when I say Perez guy! Well there is video footage of him been at other Michael Jackson events so I think he is a genuine fan. I think he follows him wherever he goes - and yes he is always that crazy!!!!

Also Dermot O'Leary (the guy who announced Michael on stage) said in an interview he only got asked the day BEFORE to introduce Michael on stage so I think it was a very quick planned thing.

I agree that hardcore fans, like us, know straight away it's not Michael but just think of how many people wouldn't question it because they were shell shocked at seeing who they thought was the real deal. Have you guys seen how they reacted to Navi and he doesn't look half as much like Michael as O2 guy does!!!

Oh yeah...PEREZ...he's sooo funny....I just have to laugh when I see him.....

Dermot O Leary told in an interview on british tv channel, that he was surprised
how muscular MJ was. So if he hugged o2 guy...there were more trained muscles than a
dancer usually has...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uA7ZEYp8tk

I saw the fans screaming at Navi...so no surprise that they screamed of enthusiasm
when say saw o2 guy

Wherever, whatever, have a nice day !

@ Human_Nature

Are you a detective or something?! You have the downlow on everyone!!!!

Just kidding, thanks Hon He makes me laugh so much.

Wherever, whatever, have a nice day !

Human_nature wrote:

Rachel wrote:In regards to the audience being a fake I'm not too sure about that and only because of one reason. Most of you know who I mean when I say Perez guy! Well there is video footage of him been at other Michael Jackson events so I think he is a genuine fan. I think he follows him wherever he goes - and yes he is always that crazy!!!!

Perez guy name : BJ Hickman



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How I loved to see the support We all gave Michael during his trial. The way, they posted letters on his gate, and fance to support him. He had such and impact on people.

I spcecially liked the Picture in the first link, of a MJ fan with a Banner saying:" Dont mess with MJ fans" lol.

He is so right

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Thanks for the replies. It would make MORE sense for them to be trying to pass off the History Tour Rehearsal vids, but I thought that one of the This Is It dancers was proven to be in the videos that they claim were shot 2 days before Michael "passed" - Does anyone know?

The O2 pic's irk me as well. I tried my best to brighten the pic's to get a good look at the eyes. What do you think?

well i can say that when i was on youtube i was watching the video of the memorial and i did see that old guy wearing the hat and wearing that glove that is black and had that camera and at the end of another video i was watching i think but im not sure i heared michael jacksons voice saying "Ill Be Back"

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Rachel wrote:
Dermot O Leary told in an interview on british tv channel, that he was surprised
how muscular MJ was. So if he hugged o2 guy...there were more trained muscles than a
dancer usually has...

Sounds sexy, I like the O2-guy more and more with the time...I mean this guy is really a good imposter, he made a great job und I feel sympathy for him and Dermot.

I REALLY don´t think those are MJ:s eyes, especially the second pic. He looks kind of weird if u try to think of him without the sunglasses. Kind of "frogish" the eyes are too far apart

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:I REALLY don´t think those are MJ:s eyes, especially the second pic. He looks kind of weird if u try to think of him without the sunglasses. Kind of "frogish" the eyes are too far apart

That's why I posted them. I'm convinced that the bottom 2 are MJ and the top 2 are not.

Hmm its hard to tell with the bottom two because the hair is curly, the O2 guy just doesnt look like Michael at all and the video footage made that clear. The voice/mannerisms/hands--all dont fit.

How did I miss this thread.

Good points/