MURRAY = MJ in disguise - picture comparison

by Jubilee Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:18 am

Wow great post, I'm starting to become convinced that Murray could be Michael... Will need to see how the case unfolds!

by Human_nature Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:35 am

I'm speechless too...
Thanks for sharing Smile

by EarthAngel90 Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:05 am

Wow .. very convincing ... I am already intrigued ...

by MJSmile4Us Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:36 am

I agree with the rest of you guys in that it's pretty amazing how similar Murray looks compared to Michael. After all Michael is the master of disguise and has the best team of artists to make him look just about anything he wanted.. And also he's known to be good at disguising his voice - the 'Ghost' video where he plays the mayor and on the video that I found;

by ilprincipe Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:57 am

I thought about this possibility since about 4 weeks...
and I'm more and more convinced of it....
Murrays youtube message confirmed my speculation...

by StenniZ Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:52 am

First time I saw the Murray-video, I got the creeps, because 1st he spoke words that could've been MJ's, 2nd he spoke in the way MJ does. And 3rd, in the beginning of the video it's as if he's wearing a mask. His face (lower part, mouth) makes some weird, unnatural movements imo. On MJHD someone made the remark, that perhaps Murray will be in trial later and then MJ takes off the Murray-mask, putting an end to this mystery. THAT would be AWESOME! lol

by neverlandsfairy Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:21 am

StenniZ wrote:First time I saw the Murray-video, I got the creeps, because 1st he spoke words that could've been MJ's, 2nd he spoke in the way MJ does. And 3rd, in the beginning of the video it's as if he's wearing a mask. His face (lower part, mouth) makes some weird, unnatural movements imo. On MJHD someone made the remark, that perhaps Murray will be in trial later and then MJ takes off the Murray-mask, putting an end to this mystery. THAT would be AWESOME! lol

Reminded me somehow the scene of Prestige when H.Jackman appears before his rival got hanged. lol!

If he does it would be the most lol!

moment on trials ever.

BTW gosh his deep voice drives me insane Cool

.

by emanviam Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:40 am

I, unfortunately, have to disagree...look at Murray's eyes and look at Michael's eyes....is not him...sorry Sad

by neverlandsfairy Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:46 am

emanviam wrote:I, unfortunately, have to disagree...look at Murray's eyes and look at Michael's eyes....is not him...sorry

I think, as I already said, that was not a mask...But a CGI animation, based on the real Murray.So this would explain the difference on the eyes, but not the facial expressions, and maneirisms what are so michealish. lol!

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:47 am

Ok...Im a little surprised at this. Why? Cus I mentioned this a LONG time ago and got laughed at...now all of a sudden.....

whatever. Im not mad. Im just having a day. Dont pay attention to me ok? LOL

I need some chocolate.

by Smelly Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:50 am

***Sending you some Reeses pieces***

by neverlandsfairy Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:49 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Ok...Im a little surprised at this. Why? Cus I mentioned this a LONG time ago and got laughed at...now all of a sudden.....

whatever. Im not mad. Im just having a day. Dont pay attention to me ok? LOL

I need some chocolate.

What happened dear?

And I miss your stunning avatar with him wearing the chinese hat...That was sooooooooooo lovely

by emanviam Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:54 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Ok...Im a little surprised at this. Why? Cus I mentioned this a LONG time ago and got laughed at...now all of a sudden.....

whatever. Im not mad. Im just having a day. Dont pay attention to me ok? LOL

I need some chocolate.

Noooo!!!

Don't be mad!!!

*BIG BAR OF CADBURY'S WITH ALMONDS*

Much, MUCH LOVE!!

by emanviam Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:55 am

neverlandsfairy wrote:
emanviam wrote:I, unfortunately, have to disagree...look at Murray's eyes and look at Michael's eyes....is not him...sorry

I think, as I already said, that was not a mask...But a CGI animation, based on the real Murray.So this would explain the difference on the eyes, but not the facial expressions, and maneirisms what are so michealish.

mmmmmm...it may be!!! cheers

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:00 am

Im not mad!! LOLOL

Im just havin a day where everything gets on my nerves. I gave the bird to some old man driving into work today cus he was driving too slow.
I felt bad afterwards.

My chinease hat avaie....I still have it!!

and thanks for the chocolate!!! YUMMY!!

by StenniZ Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:13 am

neverlandsfairy wrote:
emanviam wrote:I, unfortunately, have to disagree...look at Murray's eyes and look at Michael's eyes....is not him...sorry

I think, as I already said, that was not a mask...But a CGI animation, based on the real Murray.So this would explain the difference on the eyes, but not the facial expressions, and maneirisms what are so michealish.

Exactly what I thought too. But it seemed so unbelievable, that I was afraid to say it out loud. I posted earlier about him looking like a muppet, making unnatural movements. I'm sure animation like this can be done.

by CantlivewithoutMJ Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:22 am

Wow,thats intresting,i have thought same maybe Murray is Michael,we dont know.But these pictures are very similar.

@ THE JACKSONOLOGIST

I hope you get better,i know it is hard right now.But try to relax and rest,think about good and sweet thoughts I love you

by GirlSaturday Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:43 am

Considering today's date and what it marks (2 months since...), many others are probably having their own type of bad day.

I've been in a bit of a funk today as well. Last night and this morning's news stories still reporting on the amount of drugs in MJ's system.

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Im not mad!! LOLOL

Im just havin a day where everything gets on my nerves. I gave the bird to some old man driving into work today cus he was driving too slow.
I felt bad afterwards.

My chinease hat avaie....I still have it!!

and thanks for the chocolate!!! YUMMY!!

by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:53 am

I miss Michael, and I have some kind of a weird feeling in my body today. Sad

More than usual Sad

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:25 am

Strange too how they announce last night the homicide thing almost EXACTLY 2 months later.....

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:27 am

CantlivewithoutMJ wrote:Wow,thats intresting,i have thought same maybe Murray is Michael,we dont know.But these pictures are very similar.

@ THE JACKSONOLOGIST

I hope you get better,i know it is hard right now.But try to relax and rest,think about good and sweet thoughts

thanks you guys. Today is not a good one for me. I went to bed last night thinking about the homicide thing and couldnt sleep..then I came on here and read all the posts under the homicide thread and I felt a little better...but stuill.....some days are too much ya know?

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:29 am

Ive got some medicine in my ourse for my migraines and it has a sedative in it....they usually calm me down to a nice relaxed state.

by cirque333 Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:53 am

[quote="MJSmile4Us"]
I agree with the rest of you guys in that it's pretty amazing how similar Murray looks compared to Michael. After all Michael is the master of disguise and has the best team of artists to make him look just about anything he wanted.. And also he's known to be good at disguising his voice - the 'Ghost' video where he plays the mayor and on the video that I found;[/quotea

This video is great. He's so good at the voices! love it

by MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:17 am

Made me laugh....

Nothin' like black-and-white vid. Sign of the times....

by bibi Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:48 pm

plus...theres a pixcture where dr murray is sitting down on a chair....and you can see hes quite tall..and has a similar body shape to that of mj's

by PinkLizard Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:39 pm

Hey everyone, I agree that in some way it is MJ, I'm rubbish on computers but I'm sure it can be done, even the eyes could be tweaked.

Keep smiling everyone, I agree it's a hard day today. We are all here for each other. Sending everyone love and hugs. Keep searching your hearts I love you

by Pammy Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:55 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
thanks you guys. Today is not a good one for me. I went to bed last night thinking about the homicide thing and couldnt sleep..then I came on here and read all the posts under the homicide thread and I felt a little better...but stuill.....some days are too much ya know?

yes i know what you mean *big-hug-to-you*

I´m so confused about all the stories and the bs .... I dunno ... I guess i need a break but
I cant stay away from this side

I´m lost in the whirlpool of events. Every day so many new topics ... I wanna read them all but this is too much.

by Sweet1 Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:35 pm

Well! I imagine I should be mad too! I mentioned MJ being the master of disguise and referring to his part as the Mayor in Ghost a month ago. No one payed me any attention. My comments were totally ignored. It doesn't bother me so why mention it you ask? I am mentioning it because now it seems that everyone gets it. I also don't think MJ is diguising himself as Dr. Murray. I believe the CGI techinque is being utilized. I do believe it was MJ in diguise at his Memorial Service (the old man). We're not going there again. I think we have beat that dead horse too many times with a stick.The only I know for certain is that MJ is alive! Keep the Faith!

by silvy Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:58 pm

Hmmmpff?
Some questions are poppin up here:
-Are there pictures of Murray and Michael together?
-At the other forum they were talking abouth the teeth.You can use fake teeth ( teeth on a brace) But if you try to talk with those fake ones it sounds stupid.
-The video-message from Murray must then be lipsynced?
-The only thing what is hard too fake on a face is the ears
.-Does Murray have pores on his face or facial hair?
-We never saw a closeup of that guy. How many pictures are there of Murray?
- If it is grime/makeup there definatly are irregularities in the skintone. The makeup is too heavy and if you wear it in regular/natural light its to obvious.

Ever used the so called pancake?
So what can we check?
-The pictures offcourse,with the light
-Body construction..Michael has thin legs.. and Murray?
-What about the hands? ( palmreading lol).
- Does Murray looked pancaked in some way?

by bold0 Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:31 am

http://www.myspace.com/truenewszone

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:53 am

I´ve seen an odd pic of Murral in the Latoya interview with Barbara Walters, I think it was. Human_nature posted the links to the interview in another thread. In part 2, at 3:33 or somewhere there he has grey hair.

My guess is that that picture is older than the youtube video. Does he dye his hair or what?

by VRY=PYT Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:22 am

MJSmile4Us wrote:
I agree with the rest of you guys in that it's pretty amazing how similar Murray looks compared to Michael. After all Michael is the master of disguise and has the best team of artists to make him look just about anything he wanted.. And also he's known to be good at disguising his voice - the 'Ghost' video where he plays the mayor and on the video that I found;

Don’t mean to jump off topic but Katharine is very beautiful in that never before seen you tube video. I enjoyed watching!

Murray’s accent seems so fake. TNZ on myspace seems to sum that clip up from when MJ was at the Neverland Ranch. Awwww! MURRAY = MJ in disguise - picture comparison Icon_biggrin

He tries! So cute!

by kdkennedy74 Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:24 am

Does anyone know if there are ANY pics of MJ and CM together? I have never been able to find any and it makes me wonder as well if they aren't one and the same.

by bold0 Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:27 am

No pics together)))

by VRY=PYT Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:33 am

bold0 wrote:No pics together)))

Figures! I don’t think any information has been found on if he has any Medical Degrees, License, The University’s he went to…. nothing! At least I have yet to see any.

by WanaBstartnSthn Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:39 am

I am almost convinced that Murray is Mike but I still can't understand how, if he is fake, he is listed on the NPI Registry website as a cardiologist in Las Vegas. This is a legit website that lists most physicians in the USA. I used to have to use this website when I worked for a medical center. It lists him as Conrad Robert Murray. Look for yourself. It also listed his office phone number. I called it.

https://nppes.cms.hhs.gov/NPPES/NPIRegistrySearch.do

by kdkennedy74 Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:44 am

http://www.cosmeticsurg.net/blog/2009/06/30/dr-conrad-robert-murray-expired-internal-medicine-board-certification/

Check out this link on Murray. At first I found it interesting that Murray's license had expired but then I noticed that this is a cosmetic surgery listing and not cardiology! Any thoughts?

by WanaBstartnSthn Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:03 am

kdkennedy74 wrote:http://www.cosmeticsurg.net/blog/2009/06/30/dr-conrad-robert-murray-expired-internal-medicine-board-certification/

Check out this link on Murray. At first I found it interesting that Murray's license had expired but then I noticed that this is a cosmetic surgery listing and not cardiology! Any thoughts?

That is strange. This Dr Murray is a very shady character...

by kdkennedy74 Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:37 am

I have just searched over 200 pages in google regarding Dr. Conrad Robert Murray and I can not find a single article that doesn't relate to MJ. Why can I not find anything on him as a doctor or his private practice? HMMMM!!!

by MiaPaparazzi Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:20 am

neverlandsfairy wrote:
emanviam wrote:I, unfortunately, have to disagree...look at Murray's eyes and look at Michael's eyes....is not him...sorry

I think, as I already said, that was not a mask...But a CGI animation, based on the real Murray.So this would explain the difference on the eyes, but not the facial expressions, and maneirisms what are so michealish.

Agree. There are videos all over the net showing this... infact go to the tnz myspace its on there about halfway down the page on the left side under "feel the differenceless" there are 3 videos... i posted them around here somewhere the other day too but too lazy to get link... so go here

www.myspace.com/truenewszone

by MiaPaparazzi Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:34 am

ok. did a doc search on the ama (american medical association) site and "DR" Murray is not a member. Not for CA, NV or TX. HOWEVER, he is listed as a nonmember in NV... here is the link and info...

We found 1 nonmember physicians matching your criteria.

Name Specialty Location
Conrad Robt Murray, MD CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE Las Vegas, NV 89119

The information contained in the AMA DoctorFinder report does NOT meet the primary source equivalency requirement as set forth in the credentialing standards of accreditation organizations such as the Joint Commission on the Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations (JCAHO) or the National Committee for Quality Assurance (NCQA).
Conrad Robt Murray , MD (Non-Member)
Primary Specialty (Self Designated)(note):
CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE

Location:
Las Vegas, NV 89119

Office Phone:
702-866-6802

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Here is from the ABMS which has a database of all board cert doctors... surprise surprise... no "DR" murray....

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same site, expanding search to "c murray" in the US... NO RESULTS.

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Search Criteria: Last Name = murray ; First Name = c ; Country = United States |<< < Results 1 to 15 of 15 > >>|

Name City State Country
Murray, Carl Louis Jr private private private
Murray, Carolyn Jean Montclair New Jersey United States
Murray, Carolyn Jane Lebanon New Hampshire United States
Murray, Catherine Jean Mandeville Louisiana United States
Murray, Catrina South Bend Indiana United States
Murray, Chadd Scott Kearney Nebraska United States
Murray, Charles Leroy private private private
Murray, Cheryl L. New Cumberland Pennsylvania United States
Murray, Christal Elizabeth private private private
Murray, Christina Michelle Oklahoma City Oklahoma United States
Murray, Christine Adrienne Shelburne Vermont United States
Murray, Christopher Paul Las Vegas Nevada United States
Murray, Clinton K. private private private
Murray, Craig Andrew Albany Georgia United States
Murray, Cynthia Squires Evans Georgia United States

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I will keep digging...

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