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Post by Souza81 on Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:13 pm

OK, so in the movie theory I stated the why of the hoax and all the
inconsistencies surrounding the 'death' of Michael Jackson, but the
'how' part still wasn't clear to me. After a lot of searching on the
net and brainstorm sessions with Mo, we think we know HOW he did this.
Before I go on, please read this P.T. Barnum hoax-story about the
Cardiff Giant: http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html

Now we all know Mike is a huge P.T. Barnum fan, I have posted the most important ones in my Movie theory thread: http://souza-mjhoaxdeath-themovietheory.blogspot.com/?zx=c960c7e30c4c8fb3

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Now, let's go to all the documents they have thrown in front of our
feet and see what is going on here. Let's begin with Michael's
passports:
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Well this is why we got into this more. Look at his name, it states
Michael Joe Jackson. Well you can say about the passports what you
want, maybe they are fake, but that doesn't matter because there are
more documents more legit then this ones that state that legal name:

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The copy of the contract he signed in the late 70s for song rights transfer from the Jackson 5, signed Michael Joe Jackson:
THIS IS IT – The Cardiff Giant – The hoax within the hoax – A fake of a fake is not fraud! Copyofacontractfortherightsofsongs2

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The indictment for the child molestation on December 18, 2003:
http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1344557&dn=y


Charges against Michael Joe Jackson. If that was
not stated right, Michael's lawyer would definately have tried to have
the judge declare a mistrial, and as far as I know he had a good lawyer
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The charges: amended April 21, 2005:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1344553&dn=y

True Name: Michael Joe Jackson

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So, all we need now is the Birth Certificate, but IMO the above
should state enough about his real name. Also keep in mind that in
Katherine's autobiography it's Michael Joe Jackson, not Michael Joseph
Jackson. Now let us look at the rest of the documents and see what is
wrong with that:

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The 2002 Will:

http://94.100.115.107/712000001-712050000/712046201-712046300/712046221_8_lCZn.pdf

What do we see here? Last Will of Michael Joseph Jackson. Well, I think I've said enough. Look at the children's names though.

We have PRINCE MICHAEL JACKSON, JR (Prince), PARIS MICHAELKATHERINEJACKSON and PRINCE MICHAEL JOSEPHJACKSON, II (Blanket)

At first, when I didn't know about the middle name, I thought the
names on the will were false, which would make the will bogus, because
TMZ also released Birth Certificates from the children, where the names
of the boys are different from the names in the will. But that would
mean in this new situation, that they faked a real document by signing
with the wrong father's name.
Now I think that the boy's names on the Will are the right ones, and
the Birth Certificates are showing the wrong names, faking a fake is
not fraude (remembr the cardiff giant?). Paris's name is on both
documents the same, but that BC is signed by Debbie, not by Michael… THIS IS IT – The Cardiff Giant – The hoax within the hoax – A fake of a fake is not fraud! Sf-wink

The BC's as they were released by our Brickman TMZ:

Prince & Paris:
http://94.100.115.75/712000001-712050000/712045501-712045600/712045581_8_MF_8.pdf

Blanket:
http://94.100.118.58/712000001-712050000/712021901-712022000/712021967_8_-RwT.pdf

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OK, the Death Certificate, I don't think I need to explain what isn't right here:
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The petition for probate, can you see the loophole?
http://94.100.115.208/712000001-712050000/712048201-712048300/712048258_8_x-_e.pdf

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The AEG Contract:
http://94.100.113.48/712000001-712050000/712046901-712047000/712046997_8_EOjT.pdf


Now why is this contract not notarized when it concerns that amount
of money? That seems odd… Why should you notarize a contract? The only
function of a Notary is to verify that the person who signed the
document was indeed the same person..i.e. confirm identity and watch
them sign the document. It effectively eliminates (usually) any claim
of "I didn't sign that". Having a document notarized does NOT give it
any more legal authority than not.
Notary witnesses a signature and verified the persons signing are
legally who they say they are. All parties involved in the contract
being signed must be present and sign in front of the notary The notary
is to witness the signatures and they will put a seal on it only when
they they witness both parties have signed the document in their
present. And what this does is when one party will try to get off and
not pay something/perform because that's not his signature well if it
is notarized it is saying it was his signature. In other words when you
notorize a document it is official.

Well, with MJ cancelling more than once, shouldn't you think it would have been a good idea to notarize this BIG contract?

Besides that, the technical rider is not present, which means that
there is no contract at all. The technical rider is THE MOST IMPORTANT
document when booking an artist to perform: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rider_(theater)

If you have any questions about the rider, contact Monique (Mo), she works in the music industry and knows how it works.

Now here is the good part, the contract shows AEG as a LLC, Michael
Jacksons company is also a LLC and the firm handling this is a LLP,
mening LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY/LIMITED LIABILITY PARTNERSHIP. a
LLC/LLP PROTECTS YOU FORM ANY LAWSUITS SINCE YOUR A LIMITED LIABILITY
COMPANY/PARTNERSHIP. Now michael could have signed the contract one way
as Michael Jackson Company LLC and the second signature that doesn't
look like the first is signed by Michael himself or Michael Jackson the
performer which would constitute Michael as the third person.

Also on the contract the dates luly 26 to sept 29, 2009, those dates don't match up with the orginal dates or pushed back dates.

SO you have Michael Jackson Company LLC and Michael Jackson himself,
if this hoax is performed under the LLC he cant be sued or liable.
BINGO!!!!THIS IS IT – The Cardiff Giant – The hoax within the hoax – A fake of a fake is not fraud! Sf-cool

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Then we have the search warrants, let's do Carolwood Drive first:

http://94.100.113.31/712000001-712050000/712047201-712047300/712047258_8_OfSJ.pdf

Look at the victim at page 2, need I say more? THIS IS IT – The Cardiff Giant – The hoax within the hoax – A fake of a fake is not fraud! Sf-wink We have another fake of a fake.

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Then there is the Murray Raid in Las Vegas:

http://94.100.116.6/712000001-712050000/712048401-712048500/712048462_8_0VRe.pdf

Well IMO, Dr. Murray doesn't exist at all, so that would make this
document bogus in the first place. But what if the guy IS a real person
and doctor? Well this is the info we got about the doctor:
Federal authorities have stated that Dr.
Conrad Murray is not licensed to administer certain levels of
controlled medications in the state of California, and that if he gave
Propofol, Demerol or Oxycontin to Michael Jackson, as has been reported
or even admitted by Murray, it would have been illegal. Don't you think Murray would have been arrested by now? And if not due to this, our last document should have done it:
(BTW, if you need a good laugh, check this thread: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/hoax-death/murrays-friends-and-patients-exhibited-on-lawyers-site)

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The coroners Press Release concerning the Cause of Death of Michael
Jackson. No official statement from a coroner, just a word document
that was released, I made it into a PDF to put it on the net:

http://94.100.114.97/712050001-712100000/712070801-712070900/712070824_8_3prQ.pdf

Well, don't you think that if the coroner knew before hand that this
was a homicide, that the LAPD wouldn't have lifted Murray from his bed
before they would release this statement? Because as far as we all know
the doctor was the only one present at the time of death/cardiac arrest.

Everything is a fake from a fake, which means it's NOTHING at all. Read the Barnum story again and think about it…..

Oh and BTW: Remember Elvis's middle name on his tomb?

THIS IS IT – The Cardiff Giant – The hoax within the hoax – A fake of a fake is not fraud! Sf-wink

Greetz,
Souza and Mo

Credits to Badkolo, Anna.K, Shikster, and Anto and all others from whom I have posted links to their threads.


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Post by neverlandsfairy on Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:16 pm

Great Souza!
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Post by Smelly on Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:21 pm

FANTASTIC!!
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:29 pm

Everything is a Fake ???!!! OMG ... Speechless ....
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Post by DreamsComeTrue on Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:50 pm

Woooooooow!

Michael it's sooooooo intelligent! LOL I didn't expect this!

Then, this means that the death certificate is fake?

It's like they are investigating the death of ANOTHER PERSON?

WHOOO HOOOOO

Michael, you will hardly rock this world! I can't wait! bounce afro
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Post by Human_nature on Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:58 pm

maybe my eyes are not very good but the pictures on passeport don't look like Michael.... Suspect

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Michael in 1987 :
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in 1993 :

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it's just me..or the passeport picture are just not real?
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Post by Sweet1 on Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:02 pm

Souza81 Thank you for posting! This is so awesome! Damn MJ was brilliant! He was a man ahead of his time. He can never be brought up on charges and there is hope that he will comeback. I am in awe! Thank you sweetie! Have a wonderful evening. Keep the Faith!
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Post by PYT on Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:06 pm

I actually think they are believeable, the left moreso than the right.

Also, i thought the right may be a fake because of the change in passport numbers but i looked it up and when you are issued a new passport they do change your passport number.

where did you find these, are they online?
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Post by mjthelegendlives on Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:08 pm

you know...the picture of the passport at the left seems weird indeed, now there is something about the second passport that caught my eye...I may be wrong, but it seems like if the "the united states of america" part were obtained from a $1 dollar bill and the "USA" above his picture also lol...are passports from this period meant to be that way?

Edit**I do have to admit it is good research, thanks Souza and others Smile


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Post by NikkiKat22 on Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:12 pm

This has made me the happiest I have been in 2 months. Thank you so much for posting.
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Post by endlessfire on Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:13 pm

There are two different signatures on the passports and imo neither of them actually look like Michael Jackson. They both look like bad impersonators.
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Post by emanviam on Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:19 pm

I HOPE this is true....Great article, Souza!! Well written...THANK YOU FOR SHARING!!!
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:22 pm

I notice that the one on the right says "not valid unlessed signed" underneath the signature line and the one on the left does not. Maybe it was just a change in the process but I don't know.
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Post by Souza81 on Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:49 am

The passports are not important, they could be fake.
The passports just got me to dearch for it.

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Post by DreamChild on Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:12 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_passport

~Maybe this may help~

~If it doesn't then I Apologize!~
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Post by IWSICS on Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:37 am

sorry if im being dumb, but i have been reading EVERYTHING about this for an hour and i still don't get it? Embarassed
What do you mean by a fake of a fake?
Im terribly sorry! all this work you have done is mind-blowing! Smile
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Post by DreamChild on Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:47 am

~A man had a Fake Giant~And passed it off as Genuine and someone paid money to him and bought it~~then the man who bought it began to make tons and tons of money off of this Fake Statue~ and the original man who knew it was a Fake turned around and mad another Fake one~and somehow or another there was a big Court scene~I kind of got a little lost with it at that point~

~But the point I think is that Michael is Dead~~But he is not Dead~

~Michael Joseph Jackson is Dead~

~But Michael Joe Jackson the man the World knows as The King Of Pop and who stood trial and was acquitted of all charges~~Is very much Alive~

~The Media Did not Lie~~Sort of~

~Indeed~~"A"
Michael Jackson did pass away on June 25,2009~

~But it was not our Beloved and Dear Michael Joe Jackson~

~He is still somewhere Moonwalking and Spinning and most of all~



~Watching~

I love you Embarassed I love you
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Post by IWSICS on Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:03 am

Oh i see!
Thank you so much for explaining it!

wow! this is incredible. AND IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE! Very Happy
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Post by DreamChild on Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:09 am

~I Hope that I made at least a little sense!~

~Like I said I kind of got a little bit lost myself!~

~But I do Believe that I explained it right~

~I didn't Mind!~ I love you I love you Embarassed I love you I love you
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:07 pm

HOLY!! The passports pics to me are both fake. Sorry. Niether even look like him..

this is VERY interesting stuff!!! Way to Go SOUZA!!!
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:14 pm

I cant see the victim on pg 2 of the search warrant!!! Sad
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:20 pm

Ok...BC are public record, has anyone looked up his BC yet? I havent gotten far enough yet to see if it has, sorry.
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Post by beachgirl on Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:57 pm

Great! Thanks for sharing
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Post by MadelineDD on Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:43 pm

WOw Shocked that gives me hope! bounce

Nice job SOUZA! you should be an investigator or smth Cool
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Post by mjssoulmate on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:45 pm

I don't know if this has brought up before concerning the passports, but I thought legal documents have to show the legasl name. the passports show Michael Joe Jackson, not Michael Joseph Jackson.
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Post by hungry on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:55 pm

mjssoulmate wrote:I don't know if this has brought up before concerning the passports, but I thought legal documents have to show the legasl name. the passports show Michael Joe Jackson, not Michael Joseph Jackson.
Yeah, we've noticed that too Very Happy
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