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by DONNALOVESMJ Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:10 pm

Hey guys i just spoke to Geraldine Hughes
she wrote the book " REDEMPTION " and is currently writing a book about MJ , and i told her about the MJHD and she wants to include some of our theories in her book.
can someone please put together the most shocking inconsistencies out there we found and please post the links, in a special thread,
cause her publisher is waiting for the script now,

she is writing the chapter,

i told her that i would send her the link of both MJHD websites.

please i would appreciate.
God bless.
Thanks.

by Grace Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:29 pm

by yaya Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:35 pm

i agree with grace; i don't think that's really fair for everyone who contributed to that site. sure, she may (or may not) give credit where it's due, but i still don't think it's a great idea...

by kdkennedy74 Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:41 pm

I happen to agree with Grace and Yaya. We have put in too much sweat and tears ourselves to just hand this information over to someone else.

by Rach Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:45 pm

As you can see from the number of posts I have made I spend the majority of my time onnhere searching for inconsistencies and chatting with other members about what we feel has happened.

I don't think it would be fair for someone else to take all of our hard work away regardless of whether or not they give credit.

by NikkiKat22 Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:49 pm

I have to agree with Grace, yaya, and kdkennedy and Rachel, we have put so much of our tears into this just to hand it over, remember not to long ago were were know to the rest of the world as nut cases who deserved to be in the loony bin. How do we know that shes not gonna make fun of us, or take all credit for herself. I believe that if we are right about things, then everybody on this site deserves the credit. Not just a few people.

by zembla Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:49 pm

Agreed to not just handing the mjkit ideas on a golden platter.
Skeptical note: everyone can read on here without having to sign in. For all we know someone might already be using the theories on here in a book. :/

by Rach Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:51 pm

zembla wrote:Agreed to not just handing the mjkit ideas on a golden platter.
Skeptical note: everyone can read on here without having to sign in. For all we know someone might already be using the theories on here in a book. :/

I hear what you're saying and it's sad but true Sad

I could lock the forum so only members can see but then you could just sign up and never post. I think if someone wants to take our ideas they will regardless but it would be a VERY crappy thing to do Sad

by yaya Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:52 pm

zembla wrote:Agreed to not just handing the mjkit ideas on a golden platter.
Skeptical note: everyone can read on here without having to sign in. For all we know someone might already be using the theories on here in a book. :/

that is just what i was thinking! it's a bit of a scary thought that anyone can decide to just take all the information and do whatever they want with it. then some people will give them all the credit for it.

by ishealive Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:53 pm

I agree we've spent alot of time here day and night working our a***s off so I would prefer she do her own research.

by nlb Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:57 pm

Rachel wrote:
zembla wrote:Agreed to not just handing the mjkit ideas on a golden platter.
Skeptical note: everyone can read on here without having to sign in. For all we know someone might already be using the theories on here in a book. :/

I hear what you're saying and it's sad but true

I could lock the forum so only members can see but then you could just sign up and never post. I think if someone wants to take our ideas they will regardless but it would be a VERY crappy thing to do

Very true. People are going to take the ideas if that was their intention either way.

by MJFOREVER Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:58 pm

GOD it hought it was something big not just somebody who whants storys from here in here book geezzz get a different title next time please Neutral

by Guest Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:59 pm

MJFOREVER wrote:GOD it hought it was something big not just somebody who whants storys from here in here book geezzz get a different title next time please

Yeah i thought so to Sad

by EarthAngel90 Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:02 pm

I agree w/ Grace & Yaya .... all the way.

by hungry Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:04 pm

Rachel wrote:
zembla wrote:Agreed to not just handing the mjkit ideas on a golden platter.
Skeptical note: everyone can read on here without having to sign in. For all we know someone might already be using the theories on here in a book. :/

I hear what you're saying and it's sad but true

I could lock the forum so only members can see but then you could just sign up and never post. I think if someone wants to take our ideas they will regardless but it would be a VERY crappy thing to do

Can you have the forum open through invitations/referrals only or something? :/

by Grace Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:06 pm

by Another.Part.Of.Me Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:10 pm

Donna -
I think I speak for all of us here when I say Thanks but NO Thanks. Tell your Geraldine Hughes to get off her backside and do her own research.

The posts on this site have come from over 2 months of pure sweat, tears and heartbreak, love, laughs, sorrow, frustration, anger and everything else - we've had up days and down days, the highest of highs and the lowest of lows - and we still keep going.

It's not fair to us if some woman writes a book exploiting all OUR hard work and reaping the profits from it while we see nothing, not a penny, no credit. Nothing.

No, she's a writer, she must do her own research and write her own book.
We will write our own books and have them published if need be but the contents of this site belong to us - not her.
It is our hard work, our sleepless nights, our headaches and tears, our heartbreak, our pain, our frustration, our anger and our love that fill the pages and posts of this forum. Ours.

That's all I have to say on this.

by Rach Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:11 pm

@ Hungry,

I wouldn't want to do that. I don't want to discriminate people from been able to sign up to the forum and sharing their views because of a few bad apples.

Besides, I didn't know anyone on here before I joined up so I think a referral is going to be hard.

by annieisnotokey Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:14 pm

Geraldine Hughes better not copy my theory or I'll sue her *ss!! lol!

by nlb Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:16 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:Donna -
I think I speak for all of us here when I say Thanks but NO Thanks. Tell your Geraldine Hughes to get off her backside and do her own research.

The posts on this site have come from over 2 months of pure sweat, tears and heartbreak, love, laughs, sorrow, frustration, anger and everything else - we've had up days and down days, the highest of highs and the lowest of lows - and we still keep going.

It's not fair to us if some woman writes a book exploiting all OUR hard work and reaping the profits from it while we see nothing, not a penny, no credit. Nothing.

No, she's a writer, she must do her own research and write her own book.
We will write our own books and have them published if need be but the contents of this site belong to us - not her.
It is our hard work, our sleepless nights, our headaches and tears, our heartbreak, our pain, our frustration, our anger and our love that fill the pages and posts of this forum. Ours.

That's all I have to say on this.

Very well said A.P.O.M. and I totally agree with you and evryone else.

by Guest Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:16 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:Donna -
I think I speak for all of us here when I say Thanks but NO Thanks. Tell your Geraldine Hughes to get off her backside and do her own research.

The posts on this site have come from over 2 months of pure sweat, tears and heartbreak, love, laughs, sorrow, frustration, anger and everything else - we've had up days and down days, the highest of highs and the lowest of lows - and we still keep going.

It's not fair to us if some woman writes a book exploiting all OUR hard work and reaping the profits from it while we see nothing, not a penny, no credit. Nothing.

No, she's a writer, she must do her own research and write her own book.
We will write our own books and have them published if need be but the contents of this site belong to us - not her.
It is our hard work, our sleepless nights, our headaches and tears, our heartbreak, our pain, our frustration, our anger and our love that fill the pages and posts of this forum. Ours.

That's all I have to say on this.

I totally agree with you.

Im heartbroken, and I know im not the only one. But if some women wanna write a book, she can do her own research. We have really worked on this, and supportet eachother through it all. I dont want my posts exploitet by some women.

Some of my feelings on here are really private, but i shared it with people on here because I know they would understand and listen. I love all of them on here, and I dont wanna see them or myself for that matter exploitet to the world.

We are in here to share our feelings and emotions regarding our Angel Michael, we dont wanna share it with the world.

Tell her thanks but no thanks.

1 more thing, I wont hope for herself she is going write it anyway.. Im gonna sue her if she does, and trust me, i will win... Im sorry , that was not to be rude, im just saying

by nlb Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:17 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:Geraldine Hughes better not copy my theory or I'll sue her *ss!!

Go get her Annie!!

by phoenix Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:17 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:Donna -
I think I speak for all of us here when I say Thanks but NO Thanks. Tell your Geraldine Hughes to get off her backside and do her own research.

The posts on this site have come from over 2 months of pure sweat, tears and heartbreak, love, laughs, sorrow, frustration, anger and everything else - we've had up days and down days, the highest of highs and the lowest of lows - and we still keep going.

It's not fair to us if some woman writes a book exploiting all OUR hard work and reaping the profits from it while we see nothing, not a penny, no credit. Nothing.

No, she's a writer, she must do her own research and write her own book.
We will write our own books and have them published if need be but the contents of this site belong to us - not her.
It is our hard work, our sleepless nights, our headaches and tears, our heartbreak, our pain, our frustration, our anger and our love that fill the pages and posts of this forum. Ours.

That's all I have to say on this.

well said girl you make me soooo proud flower

by lovelidae Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:20 pm

I agree with all of you. We all started this journey together. We've laughed, cried, agonized, been sleep deprived, grieved, and shared some great memories together over the last 2 months. This is our journey and if it is documented, I feel that we are the ones to do it.

I'm happy you guys feel like I do. It's been a labor of love, it's too much to just give away.

by ~~Kristy~~ Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:22 pm

Yeah I agree with everyone Thanks but No thanks we put to much work into this.We looked really hard and done some serious research.so again Thanks but No thanks.

by NikkiKat22 Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:29 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:Donna -
I think I speak for all of us here when I say Thanks but NO Thanks. Tell your Geraldine Hughes to get off her backside and do her own research.

The posts on this site have come from over 2 months of pure sweat, tears and heartbreak, love, laughs, sorrow, frustration, anger and everything else - we've had up days and down days, the highest of highs and the lowest of lows - and we still keep going.

It's not fair to us if some woman writes a book exploiting all OUR hard work and reaping the profits from it while we see nothing, not a penny, no credit. Nothing.

No, she's a writer, she must do her own research and write her own book.
We will write our own books and have them published if need be but the contents of this site belong to us - not her.
It is our hard work, our sleepless nights, our headaches and tears, our heartbreak, our pain, our frustration, our anger and our love that fill the pages and posts of this forum. Ours.

That's all I have to say on this.

I totally agree with you.

Im heartbroken, and I know im not the only one. But if some women wanna write a book, she can do her own research. We have really worked on this, and supportet eachother through it all. I dont want my posts exploitet by some women.

Some of my feelings on here are really private, but i shqared it with people on here because I know they would understand and listen. I love all of them on here, and I dont wanna see them or myself for that matter exploitet to the world.

We are in here to share our feelings and emotions regarding our Angel Michael, we dont wanan share it with the world.

Tell her thanks but no thanks.

1 more thing, I wont hope for herself she is going write it anyway.. Im gonna sue her if she does, and trust me, i will win... Im sorry , that was not to be rude, im just saying

Your 100%right, If she takes anything from this site, she should be sued. Its our hard work and sweat and tears. not hers. If she wants to write a book tell her to do her own research, get her own theories.

by ~~Kristy~~ Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:30 pm

Exactly Charmed.

by NikkiKat22 Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:57 pm

I hope I didn't come off as a bitch. If I did I'm sorry Embarassed

by Rach Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:58 pm

No I don't think you did at all. You are right. WE have made this site what it is and no-one else.

by Another.Part.Of.Me Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:58 pm

charmed6 wrote:I hope I didn't come off as a bitch. If I did I'm sorry

No you didn't, don't worry. You just said what we're all thinking.

by Another.Part.Of.Me Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:05 pm

Rachel wrote:No I don't think you did at all. You are right. WE have made this site what it is and no-one else.

Rach - as Admin - I think you should put some sort of Copyright notice on the main/Homepage of the forum somewhere near/above the chatbox stating that the contents of the posts on the forum are the Intellectual Property of the respective owners/posters of this forum and are subject to US and International copyright laws. It is a retrospective copyright which applies to not only any and all future posts made on here but also to the past posts from the time the forum was opened.
Any breach of those laws and unlawful reproduction of any of the posts on here without first seeking express written permission constitutes a breach of copyright and transgressors will be swiftly dealt with.

Something like that which should hopefully deal with anyone who wants to take our hard work and pass it off as their own.
xoxo

by Rach Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:07 pm

@ APOM

I will have a look into that and see if there is anything I can do. You know the scary thing is that this has only just been brought to light now and it could have been going on for months.

by Another.Part.Of.Me Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:12 pm

Rachel wrote:@ APOM

I will have a look into that and see if there is anything I can do. You know the scary thing is that this has only just been brought to light now and it could have been going on for months.

I know, tell me about it. It's something we never even thought of when posting but now that someone definitely wants to exploit it we need to take measures to protect not only our work but ourselves too. Who knows if this woman is going to put a negative spin on it to make us look like crazies and nutters and put our names/screennames into her book for the world to laugh and ridicule us.
It's things like that we have to think about now which is unfortunate.

by Rach Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:15 pm

Well I just have to say that I am PROUD to be labeled a crazy and even if I am wrong about this who am I hurting?

People can label me a freak all they like, it doesn't bother me. I am made of tougher things than that. I will gladly given this woman my name and a quote for her book so she can tell the whole world who I am!

I am PROUD to be a Moderator for this wonderful forum, I am PROUD to be Michael fan, I am PROUD to believe that he is still with us and most of all I am PROUD to be associated with each and every single one of you Smile

by Another.Part.Of.Me Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:22 pm

Right on Rach and I agree with you on all counts especially these ones:

"I am PROUD to be Michael fan, I am PROUD to believe that he is still with us and most of all I am PROUD to be associated with each and every single one of you"

However, respectfully, I don't want to be in her book and I don't care what sort of spin she put on it whether positive or negative - but I don't want to invite negative publicity and bad press to my family.
I know all to well how things can get out of control and how innocent people who are not involved in situations can get hounded by the Press and respectfully - I will not allow my family to be involved in this. I will not allow people to mock or ridicule my family, and above all else I will not invite publicity or problems onto my family because of some woman and her book.
Just about anything to do with Michael Jackson will be snapped up as soon as it hits the shelves and this means that obviously people will read it, and when people read it, if they know the people mentioned in the book - ordinary people like us - then it causes problems which is something I want to avoid.

by Grace Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:26 pm

by Rach Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:36 pm

I promise I will look into it guys and see if I can do it because it's a great idea.

by SmoothCriminal Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:42 pm

ishealive wrote:I agree we've spent alot of time here day and night working our a***s off so I would prefer she do her own research.

I Agree i dont like this one bit Rolling Eyes

by nlb Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:46 pm

Rachel wrote:
I am PROUD to be a Moderator for this wonderful forum, I am PROUD to be Michael fan, I am PROUD to believe that he is still with us and most of all I am PROUD to be associated with each and every single one of you

I am PROUD to be a MJ fan, to be a part of the site and the ppl here, and to believe he is alive as well. I do have to agree with APOM and the others that I do not want any of that to affect anyone in my family because of what someone may write and what could come with that.

I also would have never thought about this or the problems it could lead to if it hadn't be brought up. I haven't checked but I can't imagine it is going any better over at MJHD. Don't mess with MJ fans- Mad

by Rach Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:47 pm

I think compared to MJHD we are going to be ok. I mean they have over 3000 members and have had 1,000,000 hits which is nothing like us.

by ~~Kristy~~ Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:49 pm

I am also proud to be part of this site to be a hardcore MJ fan and I am proud to say that I do believe he is alive good and healthy.

by endlessfire Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:04 pm

Oh, shit! I use this screen name for everything! It's ok though I'll just tell everyone I'm bipolar and they will expect it or won't believe anything I say anyway! lol That's no lie

by NikkiKat22 Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:44 pm

I proud to be a crazy or a nutter. lol I first thought of Nutter butters when you said that. I love those. O.k back to my point, thanks for saying I wasn't bitchy.
I agree with all of you here

"I am PROUD to be Michael fan, I am PROUD to believe that he is still with us and most of all I am PROUD to be associated with each and every single one of you"

I love you all.

by CantStopLovingU Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:10 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
Rachel wrote:No I don't think you did at all. You are right. WE have made this site what it is and no-one else.
Rach - as Admin - I think you should put some sort of Copyright notice on the main/Homepage of the forum somewhere near/above the chatbox stating that the contents of the posts on the forum are the Intellectual Property of the respective owners/posters of this forum and are subject to US and International copyright laws. It is a retrospective copyright which applies to not only any and all future posts made on here but also to the past posts from the time the forum was opened.
Any breach of those laws and unlawful reproduction of any of the posts on here without first seeking express written permission constitutes a breach of copyright and transgressors will be swiftly dealt with.

Something like that which should hopefully deal with anyone who wants to take our hard work and pass it off as their own.
xoxo

I agree - No way should she be handed a "list" of all the inconsistencies and the accompanying theories ... Some people have a lot of nerve. AND if the "Publisher" is waiting for her to send them over, she has already been in discussions with them about it!

by Human_nature Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:44 pm

Wherever, whatever, have a nice day !

by annieisnotokey Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:49 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:However, respectfully, I don't want to be in her book and I don't care what sort of spin she put on it whether positive or negative - but I don't want to invite negative publicity and bad press to my family.

I agree with A.P.O.M. here.
Talking about "spin", we only have to remember the "spin" Martin Bashir put in his MJ documentary to learn not to trust the press.

by Human_nature Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:56 pm

Wherever, whatever, have a nice day !

by ballongiraf Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:44 am

MJFOREVER wrote:GOD it hought it was something big not just somebody who whants storys from here in here book geezzz get a different title next time please

i also went into "OMG *hyperventilating*" mode when i saw the title, and i also got extremely disappointed when i found out it was "just" about a book.

Im sure you're intentions were good, but i have to agree with the rest of the gang on this one. Sure it's a positive thing that Geraldine Hughes wants to write about the hoax, BUT like any other author she simply has to do her own research on the matter.

by PinkLizard Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:59 am

Before I type this I will apologise in adavance if I sound cruel, those of you who have been here for a long time know me well enough to know that would never be my intention. However, I do feel the need to question 'DONNALOVESMJ's motives for being on this site. She seemed very excited at the thought of being included in this book. This troubles me as I know that most of us would NEVER want this to be used as a way to make money. We are NOT here to EXPLOIT Michael, he's had to put up with people doing that all his life. We are here to find the truth and to protect Michael, helping him in any way we can. Donna, I may have got this wrong and if I have I apologise in advance. I just hope that you can see that by any of us participating in this book we would be doing to Michael what MANY people have done to him. We are not here for fame or recognition, we are here out of LOVE for Michael and each other. To offer support to one another and to Michael. I am PROUD to be here too. Love and hugs to everyone xoxox

by hungry Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:01 am

I don't get it... is she also a believer of the hoax theory or not?

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