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Post by Kirsche on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:36 pm

I know a lot of you have discussed the video, where they swap a body at night on Forest Lawn...

And I know, that we discussed June 25th a lot!

But some were shocked, because they didn't understand why they would make that whole things, when there's no Body to be swapped...But I have my theory about that and I return back to June 25th...



The Material has been filmed on June 25th.

But it wasn't Michael to be rushed to the hospital, it was a double (Maybe Dimitrie who died on June 25th. Does somebody know, that this is true?)

So it was not Michaels Body they swapped it was Dimitrie.. This was a decoy and so nobody noticed that Michael could have been brought away ( This could be the reason why the security tapes are missin, because they show Michael alive and escaping?) . Nobody of the media stations confirmed that they filmed Michael's Body, they were just speculating about that...




And remember: Media is corrupt!



When there's something you want to add to that, feel welcome to do that
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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:40 pm

I keep hearing about Dimitrie, but where did that info come from? Are there any pictures of Dimitrie?
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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:45 pm

And why are we assuming that it was a body swap? How do we even know that that video was taped at Forest Lawn? Maybe it was a delivery to the coroner? Michael couldn't have been the only one who, for lack of better words, payed a visit that day.
I'm just really sceptical about this "dark" video.
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Post by Kirsche on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:46 pm

Here's picture of Dimitrie:



The problem is:
There's only one site about his death:
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html
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Post by MJhunny on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:47 pm

@ Kirsche you first mention a video of bodies being swapped at night at forest lawn could you give me a link or more info that's the first i've ever
heard about that and i'm really curious now...
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Post by icy55 on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:51 pm

Hi all! for those who are curious about the body swap, here's the video!

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Post by Grace on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:56 pm

I can see only an empty stretcher being pulled away.
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:03 pm

Kirsche wrote:Here's picture of Dimitrie:



The problem is:
There's only one site about his death:
[url=http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html[/quote[/url]]

WOW This is the first picture I have seen of DIMITRIE!

I was pretty blown away by the Illuminus Theo Theory - and although I didnt believe ALL OF IT, I thought it was very interesting to ponder the possibility that DIMITRIE may have passed away instead of Michael. At least at the time that made sense.

Where did this picture of Dimitrie come from? I dont remember it being on the original blogspot story months ago.
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Post by Kirsche on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:04 pm

I'm not discussin only about that video....I'm discussin about that day and the material of the other tv stations, about the body been brought to the helicopter and the material of the ambulance comin out of Michaels house...I think that (even if it's not Dimitrie, remember, MJ did a lot of Pranks with Mannequins brought to the hospital) another body or a mannequin has been brought to hospital and this was all a decoy....but another question is there: how do we know, that this material of the ambulance has been filmed on June 25thß


I don't know how to explain all this
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Post by raluka on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:08 pm

this video is for sure dated 25th on June? Why did it surface only now? (or it's only me that I'm seeing now?). Because if it surfaced recently it can be very easy "fabricated" because everything that has to do with Michael means profit, the more controversy the better...So I wouldn't give to much credit to this video if it is recent..
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Post by mjgirl86 on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:17 pm

[quote="CantStopLovingU"]
Kirsche wrote:Here's picture of Dimitrie:



The problem is:
There's only one site about his death:
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html[/quote]

WOW This is the first picture I have seen of DIMITRIE!

I was pretty blown away by the Illuminus Theo Theory - and although I didnt believe ALL OF IT, I thought it was very interesting to ponder the possibility that DIMITRIE may have passed away instead of Michael. At least at the time that made sense.

Where did this picture of Dimitrie come from? I dont remember it being on the original blogspot story months ago.

That's a beautiful photo. Did he really die, though?

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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:20 pm

This was on July 6th.
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:22 pm

[img:4cee]http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-things-f8/[/img]

Someone in the comments section of the Ill Theo Blog posted this saying it was also Dimitrie - At first I said NO but then I looked at his hands and those of you who are familiar with my posts know that I think Michaels THUMBS are a dead giveaway to prove if it is him.

Thick at the base of the thumb point at the top. Not square like this guys thumbs.

The only part of the whole Dimitrie thing that I may consider believing is that MAYBE if someone did pass away, it could have been Dimitrie - If he really was already terminally ill and agreed to do this for Michael it is a possibility.

The fact that this guys THUMB does not look like Michaels could mean that this is Dimitrie - Just throwing it out there. This would tie back to ANNIES THEORY.
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Post by Pyramid_Girl on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:29 pm

Kirsche wrote:Here's picture of Dimitrie:



The problem is:
There's only one site about his death:
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html
Carlo Riley not Dimitrie
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Post by mjgirl86 on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:30 pm

I agree CantStopLovingU.

And if this is all the case, then... R.I.P. Dimitrie...

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Post by CantStopLovingU on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:33 pm

I think I need a break for today Carlo, Dimitrie, the Brazilian Guy, Ernest, AHH!!

Now off to watch 2012 ...
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Post by Happy Feet on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:35 pm

Ok, so if this video is legit and it was filmed at Forest Lawn on June 25 as you say, that would confirm to me that it wasn't Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson's "supposed" body had undergone (or was in the process of undergoing) 2 autopsy exams (both with the coroner and private one reportedly ordered by the family), had a portion (or all, not sure which one) of his brain removed for testing and test done on him for toxicology. His body could not of been preped and ready for the funeral home on the same day or so quickly. The cause of death (or at least a preliminary one before all results were in) would of needed to be determined before the body was released. My child died under suspicious circumstances and her body was not released to us by the coroner until all the necessary tests and cause of death could be determined.

So, in essence this is good news to me if this really was filmed on June 25 because it confirms to me it isn't Michael. I'm still in the mind set that even if a body was removed from Holmby Home June 25, it definitely wasn't Michaels. The tight security around that body at Forest Lawn in the video if it is legit would be more in line with protecting the true identity of the person.
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Post by ayka on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:37 pm

http://www.bubbygram.com/michaeljacksoncrdenver.htm

Yes, yes, it´s Carlo Riley.
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Post by mjgirl86 on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:37 pm

Pyramid_Girl wrote:
Kirsche wrote:Here's picture of Dimitrie:



The problem is:
There's only one site about his death:
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html
Carlo Riley not Dimitrie

You are right. Carlo Riley.

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Post by MJFOREVER on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:43 pm

Happy Feet wrote:Ok, so if this video is legit and it was filmed at Forest Lawn on June 25 as you say, that would confirm to me that it wasn't Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson's "supposed" body had undergone (or was in the process of undergoing) 2 autopsy exams (both with the coroner and private one reportedly ordered by the family), had a portion (or all, not sure which one) of his brain removed for testing and test done on him for toxicology. His body could not of been preped and ready for the funeral home on the same day or so quickly. The cause of death (or at least a preliminary one before all results were in) would of needed to be determined before the body was released. My child died under suspicious circumstances and her body was not released to us by the coroner until all the necessary tests and cause of death could be determined.

So, in essence this is good news to me if this really was filmed on June 25 because it confirms to me it isn't Michael. I'm still in the mind set that even if a body was removed from Holmby Home June 25, it definitely wasn't Michaels. The tight security around that body at Forest Lawn in the video if it is legit would be more in line with protecting the true identity of the person.

Sorry to hear that
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Post by myspace.com/love_louise on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:43 pm

Kirsche wrote:I know a lot of you have discussed the video, where they swap a body at night on Forest Lawn...

And I know, that we discussed June 25th a lot!

But some were shocked, because they didn't understand why they would make that whole things, when there's no Body to be swapped...But I have my theory about that and I return back to June 25th...



The Material has been filmed on June 25th.

But it wasn't Michael to be rushed to the hospital, it was a double (Maybe Dimitrie who died on June 25th. Does somebody know, that this is true?)

So it was not Michaels Body they swapped it was Dimitrie.. This was a decoy and so nobody noticed that Michael could have been brought away ( This could be the reason why the security tapes are missin, because they show Michael alive and escaping?) . Nobody of the media stations confirmed that they filmed Michael's Body, they were just speculating about that...




And remember: Media is corrupt!



When there's something you want to add to that, feel welcome to do that
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Post by Thetruth on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:54 pm

Could it be this simple that they swapped bodies to lure the media and papz away? I do not believe that it was Michael being transported in the Coroner van, the way they treated the body I sure as hell hope it was not Michael's body being disrespect in that manner.
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Post by Harleyblonde on Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:00 pm

Thetruth wrote:Could it be this simple that they swapped bodies to lure the media and papz away? I do not believe that it was Michael being transported in the Coroner van, the way they treated the body I sure as hell hope it was not Michael's body being disrespect in that manner.
But he isn't dead!! It was a plank or a mannequin.
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Post by Grace on Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:11 pm

Happy Feet wrote:Ok, so if this video is legit and it was filmed at Forest Lawn on June 25 as you say, that would confirm to me that it wasn't Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson's "supposed" body had undergone (or was in the process of undergoing) 2 autopsy exams (both with the coroner and private one reportedly ordered by the family), had a portion (or all, not sure which one) of his brain removed for testing and test done on him for toxicology. His body could not of been preped and ready for the funeral home on the same day or so quickly. The cause of death (or at least a preliminary one before all results were in) would of needed to be determined before the body was released. My child died under suspicious circumstances and her body was not released to us by the coroner until all the necessary tests and cause of death could be determined.

Be careful. All the above is what we were told.
This does not mean that this is truth.
None of this has been confirmed by any authority.
Everything ran through media, was brought to media by some bearers and repeated by media from media.
I don't believe one single word that they wrote.
I only believe pictures and footage - which have proven to have been faked, photoshopped, been taken twice and showing false EXIF data.

So - all of June 25, 2009 "reported evidence" has been blown away by our investigations already.

The only things that remain solid are MJ's disappearance and what he left us behind - his art.
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Post by Kirsche on Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:13 pm

that's carlo Riley? Wow, when you type in dimitries name in Google, this is the picture that appears.....but yes it's carlo...
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Post by Kirsche on Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:16 pm

Harleyblonde wrote:
Thetruth wrote:Could it be this simple that they swapped bodies to lure the media and papz away? I do not believe that it was Michael being transported in the Coroner van, the way they treated the body I sure as hell hope it was not Michael's body being disrespect in that manner.
But he isn't dead!! It was a plank or a mannequin.



that'what I think, too.....It was a double or mannequin..Michael did this a few times....he sent Mannequins in ambulance to the hospital just to go out, haha
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Post by techdiva on Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:17 pm

I do believe that the body was Demitrie. I thought he was from Romania. I tried to google his name, but I would get this person that died in 1945. I did read an article about Demitrie passing and that he was living with MJ. Remember when Kai Chase said that staff members were not allowed upstairs. IMO, MJ knew that he would die soon and that's why he pushed the concert date back to July 13th. This video was created on July 6th, because I remember watching it before the memorial service on July 7th. My first thought it was E'Casanova. He did announce he was retiring and had a serious illness. Also, E'Casanova's manager was at the funeral.
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Post by Happy Feet on Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:19 pm

Grace wrote:
Happy Feet wrote:Ok, so if this video is legit and it was filmed at Forest Lawn on June 25 as you say, that would confirm to me that it wasn't Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson's "supposed" body had undergone (or was in the process of undergoing) 2 autopsy exams (both with the coroner and private one reportedly ordered by the family), had a portion (or all, not sure which one) of his brain removed for testing and test done on him for toxicology. His body could not of been preped and ready for the funeral home on the same day or so quickly. The cause of death (or at least a preliminary one before all results were in) would of needed to be determined before the body was released. My child died under suspicious circumstances and her body was not released to us by the coroner until all the necessary tests and cause of death could be determined.

Be careful. All the above is what we were told.
This does not mean that this is truth.
None of this has been confirmed by any authority.
Everything ran through media, was brought to media by some bearers and repeated by media from media.
I don't believe one single word that they wrote.
I only believe pictures and footage - which have proven to have been faked, photoshopped, been taken twice and showing false EXIF data.

So - all of June 25, 2009 "reported evidence" has been blown away by our investigations already.

The only things that remain solid are MJ's disappearance and what he left us behind - his art.


I'm not sure what you are saying here to me regarding my post?
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Post by Sweet1 on Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:27 pm

Dimitrie came from that internet website about Illuminati back in July. It was a ridiculious story that basically said MJ had something on Illuminati that he threatened to reveal if they didn't help him HOAX his death. Dimitrie was supposedly MJ's replacement. He was dying of a terminal illness and agreed to die in MJ's place if MJ would take care of his family for the remainder of their lives. It wasn't discussed much on MJHD back then but I first heard about it on the internet website about illuminati. Keep the Faith!



mjssoulmate wrote:I keep hearing about Dimitrie, but where did that info come from? Are there any pictures of Dimitrie?
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Post by dyanne on Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:48 pm

Kirsche wrote:Here's picture of Dimitrie:



The problem is:
There's only one site about his death:
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html

I knew I saw him somewhere before! Here it is: http://www.myspace.com/carloriley

So... No Dimitrie. I don't buy that Illuminati theory anyway. From what I know about this, it's not an order that would let anybody post things about them on the internet just like that. That if they even exist anymore and didn't disappear 1-2 centuries ago as many report
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Post by 2 Bad on Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:01 pm

I don't believe the video. I am not convinced that the ambulance had MJ inside.
Somebody is letting these tidbits out to cause distraction. Distraction by using impersonators and photoshopping, till after looking at so many your eyes can't see the real MJ.
This is being done for a reason. I don't think these are just random happenings.
The media is behind 99.9% of this by being the vehicle to expose us. Youtube seems to be an important part as well.
It is good to step back, look at the big picture and make the remark "proof? I need proof."
I still live by Michael's words about the media:
"just because you read it in a magazine
or see it on a TV screen don't make it factual"

This is indeed a wild ride but I am staying the course to truth.
L.O.V.E.
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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:34 pm

If you listen to what they say in the video, it clearly doeas not relate to June 25th. It was the night of July 6th when that body was transported. The night before the memorial.
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