'Michael with the weird looking ear in 1996

by Guest Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:19 pm

Ok back to this 'old chestnut', the 'Michael coming out of the doctors on June 1st 09 with the funny looking ear

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/doctor_14/004.jpg

the ear appeared fine before after this date, as we seen when he was leaving rehearsal studio, i dont know how to upload pics so bear with me.

I think iv found the same 'decoy/double'?? in 1996 but i truly think its Michael and the ear is an effect of cosmetic surgeries which he has been able to disguise on January 25th 96, look at his ear

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/various/motown/006.jpg

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/various/motown/009.jpg

Yet the 2wks later in February 96 on the way to Brazil, the ear has amazingly got a full ear lobe again??

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/various/brazil/008.jpg

Tell me what you think...more evidence he used a double Or can we debunk this now by deciding he had part prosthetic ear because of surgical procedures taking cartilige (however its spelt) from ear....???? Because i dont think a double could look so much like him!!! And his vitiligo spots are the same... http://www.mjjpictures.com/main.html

by Guest Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:26 pm

Hello anyone have an opinion???? Do we agree its all Michael....i certainly think so!

by MJfan777 Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:33 pm

'Michael with the weird looking ear in 1996 Eary

there are two MJ.

by Guest Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:38 pm

Ok so how do you explain it really does look like michael and the exact same vitiligo spots which are evident on this range of pics where the ear pic was took??

http://www.mjjpictures.com/main.html

The ear in 1996??

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/various/motown/009.jpg

by ishealive Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:51 pm

I think it is the same MJ, I agree I can't see how a double can look so like him.
He could look very similar but not identical, not even twins are this alike - lol and before anyone says identical twins are I have identical twin cousin "males" and there is still a difference.

These pics look like MJ the original MJ!! Just my opinion, if we all thought the same the the world would be very boring... Wink

by Guest Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:53 pm

ishealive wrote:I think it is the same MJ, I agree I can't see how a double can look so like him.
He could look very similar but not identical, not even twins are this alike - lol and before anyone says identical twins are I have identical twin cousin "males" and there is still a difference.

These pics look like MJ the original MJ!! Just my opinion, if we all thought the same the the world would be very boring...

Yes im with you, it would be impossible to replicate exact vitiligo spots, exact same facial features, etc, its not like its an award show, so i agree with you completely...thanks for your opinion!!

by emanviam Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:58 pm

Same Mike in all pics...

by anotherpartofme Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:00 pm

the ear look different but the person look same... I dont know anymore... I am so confused Neutral

by Guest Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:02 pm

anotherpartofme wrote:the ear look different but the person look same... I dont know anymore... I am so confused

Ye definitely same person, haha im confused too...i thought part prosthetic ear but looking at the top half too, seems different, but i have to agree same person.

by emanviam Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:20 pm

Maybe they took some cartilage for any other surgery, i.e. nose?

by MJfan777 Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:37 pm

sorry, i just see now the date dur

emanviam wrote:Maybe they took some cartilage for any other surgery, i.e. nose?

anyway, There wasnt time enough for michael to recovering from a surgery; michael is very vain, i dont know if he would agree to have this elf' ear cause even the doctors prefer to use costal(rib) cartilage to this surgery. silent

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:39 pm

The only pic he has a mangled ear is the first one right? Cause all the others seem normal to me. If not, then I´m going blind. Very Happy

I don´t know what to think, but something tells me he did have a double.

by Guest Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:46 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:The only pic he has a mangled ear is the first one right? Cause all the others seem normal to me. If not, then I´m going blind.

I don´t know what to think, but something tells me he did have a double.

See first post for picture links from 1996

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:49 pm

That´s why I was so confused, everyone but the first one look normal to me, even the first from 96. scratch

The only elf-like is the first one, from what I can see.

by EarthAngel90 Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:49 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:The only pic he has a mangled ear is the first one right? Cause all the others seem normal to me. If not, then I´m going blind.

I don´t know what to think, but something tells me he did have a double.

Ditto ....

by Guest Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:51 pm

Well i must be seeing things then cos this ear to me does not look like the ear we usually see the ear lobe fuses into the face line

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/various/motown/006.jpg

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/various/motown/009.jpg

Yet the 2wks later in February 96 on the way to Brazil, the ear has amazingly got a full rounded not fused in ear lobe again??

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/various/brazil/008.jpg

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:56 pm

As I see it there´s a small difference in the ear lobe, could it have been light? Cam position? Obs! I mean the lobe of the ear.

BUT I don´t see the mangled ear like in the first pic (hard to miss that) in the other pics.

Maybe I just misunderstood your question? You meant the elf-like difference or only the ear lobe?

by Guest Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:01 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:As I see it there´s a small difference in the ear lobe, could it have been light? Cam position? Obs! I mean the lobe of the ear.

BUT I don´t see the mangled ear like in the first pic (hard to miss that) in the other pics.

Maybe I just misunderstood your question? You meant the elf-like difference or only the ear lobe?

Yes the ear lobe, although the top part doesnt look right either, we know he had doubles throughout his career, i only think they shown their face maybe once, imo, the o2 press conference, i think the doubles always wore surgical masks, i think however the one on June 1st 09 leaving doctors could have been the real Michael since i found these pics from 1996 and also the fact he had Blanket with him, i think the doubles would not be in the presence of the children as they would have been with Michael, for a bit of privacy elsewhere, thus using the double.

by Baby Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:07 pm

Ok see tiz, same day, same event but different ear...1997

'Michael with the weird looking ear in 1996 Slide713

Tell me is tiz 2 pics both MJ? Double? Impersonator?

MJ gt a double at the same event? NO! Its the same person, as you can see, the pic taken frm different angle, tat's y the ear look different lol..

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:08 pm

Oh ok, sorry then Deb. I read too fast. But yeah there´s a tiiiiny difference but as I said, you don´t think it could have been the lightning? The camera or maybe even how he held his head, the hair?

Ok, NOW I get it. I´ve read other threads thinking that Michael is the one with the normal ear, but he´s the other one. I saw a video with him performing during HIStory tour, forgot which one and where he was and I know I noticed the top part being mangled and it didn´t add up. I don´t think any double has peformed.

by Guest Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:11 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:Oh ok, sorry then Deb. I read too fast. But yeah there´s a tiiiiny difference but as I said, you don´t think it could have been the lightning? The camera or maybe even how he held his head, the hair?

Ok, NOW I get it. I´ve read other threads thinking that Michael is the one with the normal ear, but he´s the other one. I saw a video with him performing during HIStory tour, forgot which one and where he was and I know I noticed the top part being mangled and it didn´t add up. I don´t think any double has peformed.

Really did you see that on HIstory?? Well i am totally confused, seems a bit much for lighting, yes i agree he has never used doubles for performances or appearances i would say until o2. Im very confused how lighting can make so much difference....oh well, i still dont think it was a double on June 1st mangled ear or not, He had Blanket which tells me it was him

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:18 pm

Yeah I think it was him too on June 1st, specially now that you´ve cleared it up for me that the mangled ear guy is MJ.

Yes I did see it, I promise! I know I was went "what", loudly, and my sister was looking at me funny like "what´s your problem" Very Happy

And I was surprised cause I didn´t get it how the double could perform so well. I think it was 96 or 97. I´ll try to find it for you, if you want, but I can´t promise I´ll find it.

by Guest Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:28 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:Yeah I think it was him too on June 1st, specially now that you´ve cleared it up for me that the mangled ear guy is MJ.

Yes I did see it, I promise! I know I was went "what", loudly, and my sister was looking at me funny like "what´s your problem" And I was surprised cause I didn´t get it how the double could perform so well. I think it was 96 or 97. I´ll try to find it for you, if you want, but I can´t promise I´ll find it.

No worries i believe you especially now,. the doubles were body doubles in my opinion, not facial or performers, the only reason why i think he used a full double in the o2 was to drum up publicity for his concerts and his imminent death hoax...he knew everyone would be talking and even the media over here was doubting it was him, saying with all his cosmetic procedures over the years, how would we know, but also by his demeanour. If you look at Audigiers party May 08 to the change at o2 March 09, then how could he change back again to May 09?? hes not changed at all...I believe you though and have accepted that he was more than a mystery and i think we will unravel bits but never all, and certainly never the hoax, only in my opinion. So im taking a back seat now...because i think of it way more than i should, and only want to get to the bottom of his suspicious death, if he really did die, which honestly im beginning to believe more cos of research iv done on Tohmme, Colony Capital etc, and want to focus on getting Justice for Michael..doesnt mean im off the hoax just maybe more of a dream than reality...

by MichelleMissesMJ Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:30 pm

IMO the first four pics int he first thread have to be two different people. How is it possible to have 2 different ears like that. unless he deoes actually have a postetic ear. Ok he does look just like MJ but if it is a double he is suppossed to look just like him.

Baby's pics maybe they look different because 1 is side view and 1is front view. We need to look at the both from the same angle to really judge properly.

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:33 pm

I wouldn´t blame you, I´ve not landed back where I was on this matter before the burial on Thursday. I do want to believe and I do, just not like on Wednesday

But anyway, I´ll stick to the topic and just say that I do believe he had doubles and I´m not sure about the difference of the ear lobe in the pics.

by MichelleMissesMJ Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:35 pm

Deb wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:Oh ok, sorry then Deb. I read too fast. But yeah there´s a tiiiiny difference but as I said, you don´t think it could have been the lightning? The camera or maybe even how he held his head, the hair?

Ok, NOW I get it. I´ve read other threads thinking that Michael is the one with the normal ear, but he´s the other one. I saw a video with him performing during HIStory tour, forgot which one and where he was and I know I noticed the top part being mangled and it didn´t add up. I don´t think any double has peformed.

Really did you see that on HIstory?? Well i am totally confused, seems a bit much for lighting, yes i agree he has never used doubles for performances or appearances i would say until o2. Im very confused how lighting can make so much difference....oh well, i still dont think it was a double on June 1st mangled ear or not, He had Blanket which tells me it was him

Apparently he did use doubles for interviews. Apparently a guy called Edward Moss done sky news interview and e entertainment interview as michael. And i think navi did stand-in in one of his tours.

by Guest Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:39 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:I wouldn´t blame you, I´ve not landed back where I was on this matter before the burial on Thursday. I do want to believe and I do, just not like on Wednesday

But anyway, I´ll stick to the topic and just say that I do believe he had doubles and I´m not sure about the difference of the ear lobe in the pics.

Im with you, the double was only because of the hoax or publicity i think he may have actually died, about the o2 guy not being real, michael always had these same vitiligo spots even in later years look at this wrist on any picture but none on o2 guy

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/various/motown/013.jpg

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearances/o2press/076.jpg

by Guest Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:43 pm

MichelleMissesMJ wrote:
Deb wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:Oh ok, sorry then Deb. I read too fast. But yeah there´s a tiiiiny difference but as I said, you don´t think it could have been the lightning? The camera or maybe even how he held his head, the hair?

Ok, NOW I get it. I´ve read other threads thinking that Michael is the one with the normal ear, but he´s the other one. I saw a video with him performing during HIStory tour, forgot which one and where he was and I know I noticed the top part being mangled and it didn´t add up. I don´t think any double has peformed.

Really did you see that on HIstory?? Well i am totally confused, seems a bit much for lighting, yes i agree he has never used doubles for performances or appearances i would say until o2. Im very confused how lighting can make so much difference....oh well, i still dont think it was a double on June 1st mangled ear or not, He had Blanket which tells me it was him

Apparently he did use doubles for interviews. Apparently a guy called Edward Moss done sky news interview and e entertainment interview as michael. And i think navi did stand-in in one of his tours.

yes i remember them but he didnt do the interviews as Michael Jackson he was himself dressed as MJ he was used for the reenaction of the court trial because cameras were not allowed in, as for Navi, well he could only be used as a body double and when he was in Japan he had surgical mask on because he looks more like a man in drag than he looks like MJ. No one is disputing he used doubles, just not in performances, etc, i dont think anyway he would rip off his fans in that manner, when he has stopped his family ripping off fans over concerts in the past. And no one can perform like MJ.

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:50 pm

Deb wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:I wouldn´t blame you, I´ve not landed back where I was on this matter before the burial on Thursday. I do want to believe and I do, just not like on Wednesday

But anyway, I´ll stick to the topic and just say that I do believe he had doubles and I´m not sure about the difference of the ear lobe in the pics.

Im with you, the double was only because of the hoax or publicity i think he may have actually died, about the o2 guy not being real, michael always had these same vitiligo spots even in later years look at this wrist on any picture but none on o2 guy

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/various/motown/013.jpg

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It´s really confusing, I know!

About the blotches, maybe make up? He did have a good make up artist. Maybe sometimes he didn´t bother to conceal them, and this press conference was big and important so he did it. If you look at the teeth they are reeeally whitened, and although MJ always had beautiful teeth they´ve never been almoust blue from the white so to speak.

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:58 pm

Hey Deb I´ve found a pic from the HIStory tour with the weird ear!
Not video but pic. Look:

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/tour/scream_tdcau_itc/499.jpg

Edit: Another one

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/tour/scream_tdcau_itc/490.jpg

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:12 pm

This is SOOOOO weird. Same tour,look at the ear backstage:

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/tour/backstage/001.jpg

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/tour/backstage/010.jpg

The first pics I posted were on stage, but that shouldn´t make a difference, right??

by Baby Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:31 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:This is SOOOOO weird. Same tour,look at the ear backstage:

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/tour/backstage/001.jpg

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/tour/backstage/010.jpg

The first pics I posted were on stage, but that shouldn´t make a difference, right??

It's all MJ lol Look at tiz below pic

'Michael with the weird looking ear in 1996 Slide214

The ear was folded becoz he's wearing the headset mic as mentioned in another thread

https://mjkit.forumotion.net/pictures-hoax-f11/ears-mjs-ears-t436-75.htm?highlight=ears

It's the same MJ, c'mon stop looking at the ears, MJ seems to hv different ear in same event because of the different angle OR the weight of the stuff (hat/sunglasses/mic etc)added on his ear tat causes the different shape lol!

They are all the same Michael

'Michael with the weird looking ear in 1996 Slide115

'Michael with the weird looking ear in 1996 Slide715

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:42 pm

Well I give up Very Happy

I don´t know anymore.

by dunno_it Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:46 pm

so, are we actually trying to prove via this ear thing (pointy or rounded= still the same MJ) that MJ did not use doubles to fake his death?? Gosh, I thought this was the basis, the o2 guy, ambulance pic (pointy ear). If it's only one and the same MJ, where is the hoax? Gosh, i'm sooo confused now Sad

by Another.Part.Of.Me Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:48 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:Hey Deb I´ve found a pic from the HIStory tour with the weird ear!
Not video but pic. Look:

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/tour/scream_tdcau_itc/499.jpg

Edit: Another one

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/tour/scream_tdcau_itc/490.jpg

Have any of you ever worn one of those head mics? They push your ear down a little at the top because of the wraparound curved thingy and it doesn't look anything like the 'MJ' with the mangled ear coming out of Dr Klein's office:

Check out the thread about MJ's ears and the double theory, plus MJ before and after the mangled ear pic on page 2 of that thread -
https://mjkit.forumotion.net/pictures-hoax-f11/ears-mjs-ears-t436.htm

POINTY ELF EAR MAN IS NOT MJ.

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:51 pm

dunno_it wrote:so, are we actually trying to prove via this ear thing (pointy or rounded= still the same MJ) that MJ did not use doubles to fake his death?? Gosh, I thought this was the basis, the o2 guy, ambulance pic (pointy ear). If it's only one and the same MJ, where is the hoax? Gosh, i'm sooo confused now

Yeah, tell me about it.

APOM: Nope, never tried on one of those.

by Another.Part.Of.Me Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:54 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:
dunno_it wrote:so, are we actually trying to prove via this ear thing (pointy or rounded= still the same MJ) that MJ did not use doubles to fake his death?? Gosh, I thought this was the basis, the o2 guy, ambulance pic (pointy ear). If it's only one and the same MJ, where is the hoax? Gosh, i'm sooo confused now

Yeah, tell me about it.

APOM: Nope, never tried on one of those.

They're a huge pain in the @ss - I had to wear one for a while recently and uncomfortable is not the word.

Read the thread link I posted, esp page 2 with the 'ear' timeline and the full set of links to the ears over the span of a month and see the mangled ear is the one anomaly in that whole time period.

It's worth reading.

by Human_nature Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:59 pm

by Another.Part.Of.Me Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:00 pm

Thanks Human_nature - neither of them look like MJ at all, how anyone can mistake them for Michael is beyond me

Thanks babes, xoxo

by Rach Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:01 pm

Ok I look more like Michael than Navi does!!!!

by Human_nature Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:03 pm

by Another.Part.Of.Me Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:03 pm

Rach wrote:Ok I look more like Michael than Navi does!!!!

*snicker*

by annieisnotokey Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:06 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
POINTY ELF EAR MAN IS NOT MJ.

I agree with A.P.O.M. & pointy elf ear man is hoax death dead decoy a.k.a. Jack London.

Nothing will change my mind about that except, maybe, real MJ raising from the dead and haunting me just to show me pointy elf ear is actually his ear Razz

by Human_nature Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:07 pm

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:07 pm

APOM: Ok I´ve read it, you did a great job listing your findings by date. It seems more logical now. What I don´t get is if those mangled ears are becuase of mics and stuff, then there isn´t a double with a pointy ear. That´s what you´re saying right? One MJ, one ear, nothing else. Right?

by annieisnotokey Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:08 pm

The fact that some people believe that Navi can actually pass for MJ blows me away.

Navi looks nothing nothing nothing like Mike.

by annieisnotokey Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:11 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:APOM: Ok I´ve read it, you did a great job listing your findings by date. It seems more logical now. What I don´t get is if those mangled ears are becuase of mics and stuff, then there isn´t a double with a pointy ear. That´s what you´re saying right? One MJ, one ear, nothing else. Right?

I'm not A.P.O.M. but I'll answer you because we share the same beliefs.

June 2009 Pointy ear man is not MJ but older pics of MJ with weird looking ears are explained by the use of the mic headset.

@A.P.O.M. feel free to tell me off if you were going to say something different. Razz

by Human_nature Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:14 pm

by annieisnotokey Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:17 pm

@Human Nature: Our minds are connected today. lol!

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:19 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:APOM: Ok I´ve read it, you did a great job listing your findings by date. It seems more logical now. What I don´t get is if those mangled ears are becuase of mics and stuff, then there isn´t a double with a pointy ear. That´s what you´re saying right? One MJ, one ear, nothing else. Right?

June 2009 Pointy ear man is not MJ but older pics of MJ with weird looking ears are explained by the use of the mic headset.

So there is a pointy ear double? Was it him on June 1st? Now I´m really confused cause if pointy ear is because head mics how do you know there´s a double? That eliminates a double with a fake ear, right? Or maybe you´re saying that your belief of the doubles existence has nothing to do with the ear? scratch

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