lefora | leachim

by StenniZ Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:44 am

Hi all,

Don't know if this has been posted overe here already, because I'm always having trouble with the search-option (also on MJHD). No matter what word I enter in the search-bar, I always get the message, that nothing was found, so here it goes.

I recently joined michaeljacksonhoax.lefora.com and today I read that leachim posted the following message:

-legnA crA

31853211 :edoc noitacitnehtua egassem .281 rebmum LRU
glob ta eb lliw noitacinummoc texn .reklawnoom ot tseb ym evig .won
ydaer era snaf dna tiab eht nekat sah aidem .ecnemmoc nac daed eht morf
kcab noitarepo rof raelc lla erofeb won gnol eb tndluohs .evif esahp
hcnual ot ydaer nehw esivda esaelp .ruof esahp htiw drawrof gnivom dna
lead fo dne sih pu gnidloh si yarrum .noos ouy gniees ot drawrof
gnikool dna ouy ssim tub enif era nerdlihc .ereht snoitcurtsni rehtruf
tiawa .ouy eviecer lliw anetha erehw dnalsi soiproks ot ouy reviled
lliw ohw aihtaprac htiw mp2 ta souvzedner dna yletaidemmi 12 tosp ot
deecorp .mih etacoler ot emit .noos noitisop ruoy no tasf ni esolc lliw
sevlow krad eht.

:LEACHIM.TS

I have no idea why all the text is posted backwards as this is pretty obvious and therefor not cryptic or anything. The above text says:

MICHAEL:

the
dark wolves will close in fast on your position soon. time to relocate
him. proceed to post 21 immediately and rendezvous at 2pm with
carpathia who will deliver you to skorpios island where athena will
receive you. Await further instructions there. Children are fine but
miss you and looking forward to seeing you soon. is holding up his end
of deal and moving forward with phase four. please advise when to
launch phase five. shouldnt be long now before all clear for operation
back from the dead can commence. media has taken the bait and fans are
ready now. give my best to moonwalker. next communication will be at
blog URL number 182. message authentication code: 11235813.
- Arc Angel

The reply to the above message was:

-leahciM .tS
.won refsnart etucexe dna reklawnoom ot egassem yaler lliw .ypoc

:LEGNA CRA

The other way around this says:

ARC ANGEL:
copy. will relay message to moonwalker and execute transfer now.
-St. Michael

Here's what followed on the fedora-page:

Could it be that all along Michael Jackson is alive and is
being moved around from one hideout to another and it’s all being coordinated via
blog posts on pre-determined Internet blog site URL's with pre-determined
message authentication codes? Since it would be logical that all
forms of normal phone calls can be traced, this form of communication
may be what they are using.

“ST. MICHAEL”[this is who the message is addressed to and probably a handle name of the
person (body guard or agent?) who is with Michael Jackson and in charge of
moving him from point to point.]

dark wolves [does
this refer to media, paparazzi, government agents or police? The word “dark”
connotates bad, evil or even out of touch as “in-the-dark” or “not in-the-know”.
I doubt it refers to persons of dark skin or else the term “black” wolves would
have perhaps been applied here instead of the word “dark”?]

will close in fast on your position soon. [apparently these “dark wolves” know where MJ is
hiding now and they are moving in on him?]

time to relocate him [at least we know it is a “him” and not a “her” that they want to
relocate but who exactly is “him”? Obviously St. Michael and Arc Angel know
who!]

proceed to post 21 immediately[this would indicate to me that all hideout locations have
been pre-mapped and labeled. It’s also possible that each hideout location also
has several surrounding pick up and drop off points or “posts” nearby and they
have chosen post number 21 for this exchange to take place. They could also be
look-out posts as well?]

and rendezvous at 2pm with carpathia [Carpathia is the name of the ship that
rescued the remaining survivors of the Titanic. Ironically, the RMS Carpathia
was, herself, sunk by a German U-boat on July 17, 1918. Interesting how they
don’t capitalize this name in the message, perhaps they didn’t want to draw
attention to it being a proper noun? Also interesting that whoever or whatever
Carpathia is, it connotates “rescue” and/or “a passenger ferrying vehicle”.
This could be a rescue mission of sorts. If it turns out that Carpathia is just
a simple reference to a “boat or ship”, perhaps MJ is currently hiding out near
water and Carpathia (boat/ship) will be the boat that transports him to the
next destination? This is an interesting point when you consider where that
next destination is – an island]

who will deliver you to skorpios island where athena will receive you. [ is the
island of legendary international jet set glamour, the island where Aristotle Onassis
stunned the world and married President John F. Kennedy’s widow, Jacqueline Kennedy, on October 30, 1968. It is
also Onassis' final resting place. In a strange twist of irony, according to
reports in the British and Greek Press today, Skorpios Island has been put up
for sale by the sole heir to Aristotle Onassis - his daughter, ATHENA Onassis.]

Await further instructions there. [Does Athena have additional instructions for MJ
when he arrives on ? Is MJ going to
purchase this island from Athena who just mysteriously put it up for sale after
years of being in possession of the family? Coincidence? I think not!]

Children are fine but miss you and looking forward to seeing you soon. [WHO’s children? MJ’s
or St. Michael’s? Probably MJ’s. Most celebrity body guards don’t have family
due to the nature of their work. But for those who do, their children are
accustomed to having them be away for lengths at a time. So does this mean that
MJ’s children will be re-united with him soon?]

is holding up his end of deal and moving forward with phase four. [ as in Dr. Murray? Gotta be! So, a
“deal” was cut and the good doctor is still holding up his end of it, eh? Makes
sense to me. More interesting is the mention of the word “phase”. This whole
faked MJ death plan has multiple phases! We’re only in phase 4 now which Dr.
Murray is responsible for executing. How many more “phases” are remaining? So what
happened today, the same day of this anonymous coded post? Dr. Murray released
his YouTube video statement, didn’t he? Hummm…was that phase 4?]

please advise when to launch phase five. [perhaps it is MJ himself or St. Michael who
determines when the next phase is to be executed?]

shouldnt be long now before all clear for operation back from the dead can
commence.[Operation “Back From The Dead”?!!! Sounds like a new album or tour to
me. Unless, of course, these guys can
actually bring people back from dead!]

media has taken the bait [what bait is that, exactly?] and fans are ready now [ready for
MJ’s return? Ready for what?]

give my best to moonwalker. [“moonwalker”? Ah, yes, MJ was famous for his moon walk!]

Authentication code: 11235813 [apparently they use this to verify that the message is, in
fact, real and originates from one of their own and not someone who has
broken the code and attempting to interfere with their communications.
At first, I thought that perhaps they have a list of authentication codes they use on certain
dates and this is just the one for 8/19/09. Then, my brother, a high school
Algebra teacher, took a look at it and started to laugh. I had missed the
obvious! Turns out, these numbers just happen to be the beginning of the Fibonacci
sequence; 1+1=2, 1+2=3, 2+3=5, 3+5=8, 5+8=13 and so on. Hence 11235813. Clever,
but is this the ONLY authentication code they use?

Arc Angel
[this is who the message is sent from and probably the handle name of the one
who is coordinating the whole plan of action from afar. Possibly the
professional who designed, engineered and choreographed the whole plan from the start as
well. For all we know, Arc Angel may be notorious for engineering many a
celebrity’s disappearing acts. “Arc” connotates “authority and power”, “Angel”
is just that, an angel, angelic in nature. Hence the interpretation is that “Arc
Angel” or “”, as it is more commonly referred to, is an angel who has authority and power over other lower ranking
angels. There’s much more to it than this if you Google the term but I won’t
waste space here. It is also the name of a band. Suffice it to say that the
Bible only mentions a single and that would be (drum roll please)…yup, you guessed it - Michael. Surprise,
surprise.]...Or it can be our Magician Criss Angel?...hmm..Magic?

__________________

TII!

20th August 2009 16:54 p.m.

For those that are not yet members of that site, I'll post more later (if requested). Right now I have to go to work (unfortunately). I hope there's something usefell in al of the above...

Here's the link to the website:

http://michaeljacksonhoax.lefora.com

I totally forgot to add the posters name. So here it is. All credit for this post goes to RAE (admin of Fedora-blog).

by GirlSaturday Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:00 am

WOW this is indeed a great clue! Lots of interesting codes and images.

Re: backwards text....If there was a "Man in the Mirror" holding the text while looking in the mirror, it would no longer appear as backwards text. He would be able to read it clearly.

StenniZ wrote:Hi all,

Don't know if this has been posted overe here already, because I'm always having trouble with the search-option (also on MJHD). No matter what word I enter in the search-bar, I always get the message, that nothing was found, so here it goes.

I recently joined michaeljacksonhoax.lefora.com and today I read that leachim posted the following message:

-legnA crA

31853211 :edoc noitacitnehtua egassem .281 rebmum LRU
glob ta eb lliw noitacinummoc texn .reklawnoom ot tseb ym evig .won
ydaer era snaf dna tiab eht nekat sah aidem .ecnemmoc nac daed eht morf
kcab noitarepo rof raelc lla erofeb won gnol eb tndluohs .evif esahp
hcnual ot ydaer nehw esivda esaelp .ruof esahp htiw drawrof gnivom dna
lead fo dne sih pu gnidloh si yarrum .noos ouy gniees ot drawrof
gnikool dna ouy ssim tub enif era nerdlihc .ereht snoitcurtsni rehtruf
tiawa .ouy eviecer lliw anetha erehw dnalsi soiproks ot ouy reviled
lliw ohw aihtaprac htiw mp2 ta souvzedner dna yletaidemmi 12 tosp ot
deecorp .mih etacoler ot emit .noos noitisop ruoy no tasf ni esolc lliw
sevlow krad eht.

:LEACHIM.TS

I have no idea why all the text is posted backwards as this is pretty obvious and therefor not cryptic or anything. The above text says:

MICHAEL:

the
dark wolves will close in fast on your position soon. time to relocate
him. proceed to post 21 immediately and rendezvous at 2pm with
carpathia who will deliver you to skorpios island where athena will
receive you. Await further instructions there. Children are fine but
miss you and looking forward to seeing you soon. is holding up his end
of deal and moving forward with phase four. please advise when to
launch phase five. shouldnt be long now before all clear for operation
back from the dead can commence. media has taken the bait and fans are
ready now. give my best to moonwalker. next communication will be at
blog URL number 182. message authentication code: 11235813.
- Arc Angel

The reply to the above message was:

-leahciM .tS
.won refsnart etucexe dna reklawnoom ot egassem yaler lliw .ypoc

:LEGNA CRA

The other way around this says:

ARC ANGEL:
copy. will relay message to moonwalker and execute transfer now.
-St. Michael

Here's what followed on the fedora-page:

Could it be that all along Michael Jackson is alive and is
being moved around from one hideout to another and it’s all being coordinated via
blog posts on pre-determined Internet blog site URL's with pre-determined
message authentication codes? Since it would be logical that all
forms of normal phone calls can be traced, this form of communication
may be what they are using.

“ST. MICHAEL”[this is who the message is addressed to and probably a handle name of the
person (body guard or agent?) who is with Michael Jackson and in charge of
moving him from point to point.]

dark wolves [does
this refer to media, paparazzi, government agents or police? The word “dark”
connotates bad, evil or even out of touch as “in-the-dark” or “not in-the-know”.
I doubt it refers to persons of dark skin or else the term “black” wolves would
have perhaps been applied here instead of the word “dark”?]

will close in fast on your position soon. [apparently these “dark wolves” know where MJ is
hiding now and they are moving in on him?]

time to relocate him [at least we know it is a “him” and not a “her” that they want to
relocate but who exactly is “him”? Obviously St. Michael and Arc Angel know
who!]

proceed to post 21 immediately[this would indicate to me that all hideout locations have
been pre-mapped and labeled. It’s also possible that each hideout location also
has several surrounding pick up and drop off points or “posts” nearby and they
have chosen post number 21 for this exchange to take place. They could also be
look-out posts as well?]

and rendezvous at 2pm with carpathia [Carpathia is the name of the ship that
rescued the remaining survivors of the Titanic. Ironically, the RMS Carpathia
was, herself, sunk by a German U-boat on July 17, 1918. Interesting how they
don’t capitalize this name in the message, perhaps they didn’t want to draw
attention to it being a proper noun? Also interesting that whoever or whatever
Carpathia is, it connotates “rescue” and/or “a passenger ferrying vehicle”.
This could be a rescue mission of sorts. If it turns out that Carpathia is just
a simple reference to a “boat or ship”, perhaps MJ is currently hiding out near
water and Carpathia (boat/ship) will be the boat that transports him to the
next destination? This is an interesting point when you consider where that
next destination is – an island]

who will deliver you to skorpios island where athena will receive you. [ is the
island of legendary international jet set glamour, the island where Aristotle Onassis
stunned the world and married President John F. Kennedy’s widow, Jacqueline Kennedy, on October 30, 1968. It is
also Onassis' final resting place. In a strange twist of irony, according to
reports in the British and Greek Press today, Skorpios Island has been put up
for sale by the sole heir to Aristotle Onassis - his daughter, ATHENA Onassis.]

Await further instructions there. [Does Athena have additional instructions for MJ
when he arrives on ? Is MJ going to
purchase this island from Athena who just mysteriously put it up for sale after
years of being in possession of the family? Coincidence? I think not!]

Children are fine but miss you and looking forward to seeing you soon. [WHO’s children? MJ’s
or St. Michael’s? Probably MJ’s. Most celebrity body guards don’t have family
due to the nature of their work. But for those who do, their children are
accustomed to having them be away for lengths at a time. So does this mean that
MJ’s children will be re-united with him soon?]

is holding up his end of deal and moving forward with phase four. [ as in Dr. Murray? Gotta be! So, a
“deal” was cut and the good doctor is still holding up his end of it, eh? Makes
sense to me. More interesting is the mention of the word “phase”. This whole
faked MJ death plan has multiple phases! We’re only in phase 4 now which Dr.
Murray is responsible for executing. How many more “phases” are remaining? So what
happened today, the same day of this anonymous coded post? Dr. Murray released
his YouTube video statement, didn’t he? Hummm…was that phase 4?]

please advise when to launch phase five. [perhaps it is MJ himself or St. Michael who
determines when the next phase is to be executed?]

shouldnt be long now before all clear for operation back from the dead can
commence.[Operation “Back From The Dead”?!!! Sounds like a new album or tour to
me. Unless, of course, these guys can
actually bring people back from dead!]

media has taken the bait [what bait is that, exactly?] and fans are ready now [ready for
MJ’s return? Ready for what?]

give my best to moonwalker. [“moonwalker”? Ah, yes, MJ was famous for his moon walk!]

Authentication code: 11235813 [apparently they use this to verify that the message is, in
fact, real and originates from one of their own and not someone who has
broken the code and attempting to interfere with their communications.
At first, I thought that perhaps they have a list of authentication codes they use on certain
dates and this is just the one for 8/19/09. Then, my brother, a high school
Algebra teacher, took a look at it and started to laugh. I had missed the
obvious! Turns out, these numbers just happen to be the beginning of the Fibonacci
sequence; 1+1=2, 1+2=3, 2+3=5, 3+5=8, 5+8=13 and so on. Hence 11235813. Clever,
but is this the ONLY authentication code they use?

Arc Angel
[this is who the message is sent from and probably the handle name of the one
who is coordinating the whole plan of action from afar. Possibly the
professional who designed, engineered and choreographed the whole plan from the start as
well. For all we know, Arc Angel may be notorious for engineering many a
celebrity’s disappearing acts. “Arc” connotates “authority and power”, “Angel”
is just that, an angel, angelic in nature. Hence the interpretation is that “Arc
Angel” or “”, as it is more commonly referred to, is an angel who has authority and power over other lower ranking
angels. There’s much more to it than this if you Google the term but I won’t
waste space here. It is also the name of a band. Suffice it to say that the
Bible only mentions a single and that would be (drum roll please)…yup, you guessed it - Michael. Surprise,
surprise.]...Or it can be our Magician Criss Angel?...hmm..Magic?

__________________

TII!

20th August 2009 16:54 p.m.

For those that are not yet members of that site, I'll post more later (if requested). Right now I have to go to work (unfortunately). I hope there's something usefell in al of the above...

Here's the link to the website:

http://michaeljacksonhoax.lefora.com

by mommy Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:23 am

Oooohhhhh, I hope, I wish, I..... aaaruuuuuughhhhhhhhhhhh. why the suspense? Ok, calm down. He is alive, right? Lets hang on to that.

by Human_nature Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:48 am

"Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by Human_nature Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:49 am

"Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:55 am

Wow! Excellent finds in this thread!
Note: MJHD.com is using GoDaddy as well. (Not saying they are involved, just adding it cause I remembered Amy saying this)

by Human_nature Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:56 am

"Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by GirlSaturday Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:04 am

I immediately focused on the part of your findings that list Dr Schulte's specialty (Cardiology and Intenal Medicine) and his office location of Merrillville, IN. That town isn't far from Chicago, Il. Did someone on this site make any references to the Jacksons having some sort of business dealings in Chicago? If not, perhaps it was from another source.

Human_nature wrote:now Eric Schulte, I don't how's this man, but I found something....
here :

http://www.healthgrades.com/directory_search/physician/profiles/dr-md-reports/Dr-Eric-Schulte-MD-3A087940.cfm

Profile on Dr. Schulte

View Contact Information

7863 Broadway SUITE 140
Merrillville, IN 46410

Specialties Cardiology, Internal Medicine
Gender Male
Insurance Plans Accepted
Aetna, Cigna, WellCare, Humana, BCBS, United Health Care, Wellpoint

Verify that your physician accepts your insurance, and check your benefits with your insurance company.

Education
Education information, including: Medical School attended, years since graduation, and Residency, are all available
in the Detailed Report.
Years Since
Graduation28Five-Star Recognition
HealthGrades Recognized and Five-Star designations are available in the Detailed Report.
Group Practice
Cardiovascular Consulting Association
View Other Doctors in this Practice
State License Information
Licensed in Indiana
What is Cardiology?

Cardiology is the treatment of diseases of the heart and blood vessels.
A cardiologist is a physician who specializes in treating heart
conditions such as abnormal heart rhythms, heart attacks, coronary
artery [color:111a=blue ! important][color:111a=blue ! important]disease</FONT></FONT>, congenital heart defects, and disease of the heart valves. A cardiologist can inform your [color:111a=blue ! important][color:111a=blue ! important]doctor</FONT></FONT> about new drugs or tests that may be beneficial to you. Some
heart conditions can cause permanent damage to the heart muscle, and
can be fatal. Methods that cardiologists use to study heart conditions
include stress tests, a monitor to record your heart rate and rhythm, a
biopsy, which studies a tiny more »

by Truth_or_Dare Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:09 am

11235813. What is the next number in this sequence?

lefora | leachim Abar_a

The answer is 21.

Your numerical series is the beginning of a mathematical sequence called Fibonacci Numbers.

The first number of the sequence is 0, the second number is 1, and each
subsequent number is equal to the sum of the previous two numbers of
the sequence itself (i.e. 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, etc.).

I found this interesting.21! Maybe it has to do with the 21 in the original message.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/11235813._What_is_the_next_number_in_this_sequence

by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:12 am

http://www.11235813.com/

I too see the 'hallowed be thy nada nada nady y pues nada' up there next to the red cross.

What kind of a background picture is that? scratch

by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:19 am

"Some lived in it and never felt it but he knew it all was nada y pues nada y nada y pues nada."
— Ernest Hemingway (A Clean Well Lighted Place)

It might be a slightly altered version of EH's quote?

More on 'A Clean Well Lighted Place' here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean,_Well-Lighted_Place

by GirlSaturday Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:23 am

When I read, "hallowed be thy nada..., I started reciting the Lord's Prayer in my head.

Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,

the power and the glory,

for ever and ever.

Amen

Red Cross is known for assisting people who are in distress.

zembla wrote:http://www.11235813.com/

I too see the 'hallowed be thy nada nada nady y pues nada' up there next to the red cross.

What kind of a background picture is that?

by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:24 am

Taken from the Wiki link i put in previous post:

The young waiter leaves the scene, and after 'good night,' the older waiter begins a monologue in which "nada [nothing]" replaces words in the Lord's Prayer, and the first line in the Hail Mary prayer.
<BLOCKQUOTE>
Our nada who art in nada, nada be thy name thy kingdom nada thy will be nada in nada as it is in nada. Give us this nada our daily nada and nada us our nada as we nada our nadas and nada us not into nada but deliver us from nada; pues nada [then nothing]. Hail nothing full of nothing, nothing is with thee.</BLOCKQUOTE>

by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:28 am

@GirlSaturday: yes the Red Cross. Lovely organization! I don't see how the Red Cross could be linked with the background pic on that website though.
I see a woman sitting down, petting a cat on her lap and a man holding her ankle.
Could this be a reference to a painting or to a god?

by Human_nature Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:31 am

"Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by GirlSaturday Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:31 am

For some odd reason the full image doesn't appear on my computer. I only received the Red Cross logo. Based on what you have shared, this red cross could have religious implications especially since our attention has now turned to the words found in the Lord's Prayer.

zembla wrote:@GirlSaturday: yes the Red Cross. Lovely organization! I don't see how the Red Cross could be linked with the background pic on that website though.
I see a woman sitting down, petting a cat on her lap and a man holding her ankle.
Could this be a reference to a painting or to a god?

by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:38 am

Clearly the woman is in a dominant position here and the man is looking up to her. Also in this pic you see the distinction between light and the shadow which is central throughout the story.

by GirlSaturday Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:45 am

LOL...I clicked the wrong area so that explains why I saw no picture.

Ummm that picture is kind of spooky. Three people: Blonde lady...face covered side view is seated on the left, Leg Lady is seated in the middle (nice shoes...lol) is not seen from the neck up and blonde has hand on the leg and ....black and white fuzzy image of unknown 3rd person on the right.

What connection can be found in this odd image and the lord's prayer or a red cross?

GirlSaturday wrote:For some odd reason the full image doesn't appear on my computer. I only received the Red Cross logo. Based on what you have shared, this red cross could have religious implications especially since our attention has now turned to the words found in the Lord's Prayer.

zembla wrote:@GirlSaturday: yes the Red Cross. Lovely organization! I don't see how the Red Cross could be linked with the background pic on that website though.
I see a woman sitting down, petting a cat on her lap and a man holding her ankle.
Could this be a reference to a painting or to a god?

by marsheliamorgan Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:48 am

OH,I SO hope this is for real,sounds as if you ladies have it ALL under control and doing a great job Laughing

BIG KUDOS to you ALL i am glued to this seat,cant wait to find out what you are solving for us next.this could be the real thing huh?ohhhh,i am so excited,this gives me some more hope,i was starting to get alittle down and depressed Very Happy

NOT now,i am going to be watching this topic thanks ladies,you truly are the best best best,i am so giddy right now

by GirlSaturday Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:49 am

Ooops...to paraphrase an old Aerosmith song...Dude looked like a Lady. I thought the blonde was a "she" until I took a closer look at his arm.

GirlSaturday wrote:LOL...I clicked the wrong area so that explains why I saw no picture.

Ummm that picture is kind of spooky. Three people: Blonde lady...face covered side view is seated on the left, Leg Lady is seated in the middle (nice shoes...lol) is not seen from the neck up and blonde has hand on the leg and ....black and white fuzzy image of unknown 3rd person on the right.

What connection can be found in this odd image and the lord's prayer or a red cross?

GirlSaturday wrote:For some odd reason the full image doesn't appear on my computer. I only received the Red Cross logo. Based on what you have shared, this red cross could have religious implications especially since our attention has now turned to the words found in the Lord's Prayer.

zembla wrote:@GirlSaturday: yes the Red Cross. Lovely organization! I don't see how the Red Cross could be linked with the background pic on that website though.
I see a woman sitting down, petting a cat on her lap and a man holding her ankle.
Could this be a reference to a painting or to a god?

by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:54 am

GirlSaturday wrote:Ooops...to paraphrase an old Aerosmith song...Dude looked like a Lady. I thought the blonde was a "she" until I took a closer look at his arm.

GirlSaturday wrote:LOL...I clicked the wrong area so that explains why I saw no picture.

Ummm that picture is kind of spooky. Three people: Blonde lady...face covered side view is seated on the left, Leg Lady is seated in the middle (nice shoes...lol) is not seen from the neck up and blonde has hand on the leg and ....black and white fuzzy image of unknown 3rd person on the right.

What connection can be found in this odd image and the lord's prayer or a red cross?

GirlSaturday wrote:For some odd reason the full image doesn't appear on my computer. I only received the Red Cross logo. Based on what you have shared, this red cross could have religious implications especially since our attention has now turned to the words found in the Lord's Prayer.

zembla wrote:@GirlSaturday: yes the Red Cross. Lovely organization! I don't see how the Red Cross could be linked with the background pic on that website though.
I see a woman sitting down, petting a cat on her lap and a man holding her ankle.
Could this be a reference to a painting or to a god?

(Had to have a 7 in here) I made the same mistake when I first saw the pic! Hahaha!
Found a studyguide on the book: http://www.shmoop.com/clean-well-lighted-place/
Have a look. The themes, symbolism etc are all talked about in there.

by Human_nature Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:56 am

"Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by Starsun_ Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:57 am

http://11235813.com/ if u typ in escape som car comericial com up and if u type mj there is som pictures of a person Suspect

by Starsun_ Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:58 am

looks like a drug addict in one picture

by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:09 am

In addition to Human Nature:

Cats are known for their independence. They are often known as a symbol of meditation, mystery, and wisdom, such as in Good Fortune. Lastly, cats symbolize love. (Source: Wikipedia)

Also: this pic looks like it could be the cover for an album.

by Human_nature Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:27 am

"Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:36 am

[quote="Human_nature"]

Starsun_ wrote:http://11235813.com/ if u typ in escape som car comericial com up and if u type mj there is som pictures of a person

yes , true... Shocked

[/quote]

Look at the titles if you click on the html versions:
hello 1 - so do you need to see me some time soon?
hello 2 - Stripped off all my clothes, leapt downstairs and ran out of Park Avenue and two blocks down it before my friends caught me. (If you enter this text in google it leads you here:
http://www.girlonfire.com/)

_________________________________________________________________________
In hello2 (jpg format) it looks as though this man is going to inject himself with a substance.
In hello3 (jpg format) he is holding something between his fingers. Looks like a syringe?
____________________________________________________________________________

by dancer1792 Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:44 am

hallowed be thy nada nada y pues nada

it's spanish it means: nothing, nothing, and then nothing

so in English it says: hallowed be thy nothing, nothing, and then nothing.

by Starsun_ Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:50 am

[quote="zembla"]

Human_nature wrote:
Starsun_ wrote:http://11235813.com/ if u typ in escape som car comericial com up and if u type mj there is som pictures of a person

yes , true... [/quote]

Look at the titles if you click on the html versions:
hello 1 - so do you need to see me some time soon?
hello 2 - Stripped off all my clothes, leapt downstairs and ran out of Park Avenue and two blocks down it before my friends caught me

-----
In hello2 (jpg format) it looks as though this man is going to inject himself with a substance.
In hello3 (jpg format) he is holding something between his fingers. Looks like a syringe?

When i looked at those pages it did NOT have any titles, someone is changin things at that site.
When u right click at and chose show side info u can se that someone change something 17.45 (swedish time)

by Human_nature Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:52 am

"Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:56 am

Human_nature wrote:@zembla, you forgot this part, look carefully

hello 2 - Stripped off all my clothes, leapt
downstairs and ran out of Park Avenue and two blocks down it before my
friends caught me.Naked.Naked like a lima bean.

Correct! :-) I entered in google and this came up:
http://books.google.be/books?id=4BLl3QxQFYEC&pg=RA4-PT10&lpg=RA4-PT10&dq=stripped+off+all+my+clothes,+leapt+downstairs&source=bl&ots=bQzWx6v7c7&sig=0972db_3c-GBBjOnybmG8Tl4UNE&hl=nl&ei=OCulSuHyCMXy-Qb8vOzfDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=stripped%20off%20all%20my%20clothes%2C%20leapt%20downstairs&f=false

Then noticed there is a site also: http://www.girlonfire.com/

by Human_nature Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:05 am

"Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by zembla Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:25 am

If 21 is to be the next number in line, then there should be a website www.21.com. On site text 'coming soon' appears. A whois.com search tells me that no private details will be disclosed. Odd.

by emanviam Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:35 am

Human_nature wrote:
Starsun_ wrote:http://11235813.com/ if u typ in escape som car comericial com up and if u type mj there is som pictures of a person

yes , true...

[url=http://11235813.com/mj/

http://11235813.com/mj/[/quote[/url]]

Holy Cow!!!

by Grace Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:39 am

by Human_nature Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:04 am

"Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by rowdyangel Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:18 am

Human_nature - interesting date - "around 31st Oct". Hmmmmm.. Haven't we heard a certain date around that date banded around quite a lot???

JB.

by StenniZ Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:32 pm

OMG! I'm getting ultra-excited by all of your replies. Thank you very much. Not that I'm taking any credit for the message I posted, because I found it on the fedora-site, but DAMN, am I glad I applied for an account! Very Happy

I seriously hope this will lead us somewhere.

By the way: I don't know if anyone else here is also a member at the fedora-page, but I thought it was interesting, that it's not as easy to become a member over there like it is over here or at MJHD. I had to ask permission to become a member and had to elaborate on my reasons for becoming a member. After a couple of days I got a reply, that I was checked and approved for a membership. :S

Just as I was posting this topic, I got a call from a customer and had to go to my office, so I haven't been able to read my own post myself. lol It's very motivating to see, that I didn't post it for nothing and I'ld encourage you to enlist for membership over at fedora (don't even know if that's the site's true name). Smile

LET'S DIG DEEPERRRRR! ;-)

PS: there was more info on the site. I'll defintely check it out tomorrow morning and if I find anything interesting, I'll be sure to post it over here. For now I wish everyone a good night/day. Smile

by StenniZ Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:26 am

Starsun_ wrote:looks like a drug addict in one picture

Wow, that's interesting. I also get to see these pics when I go to:

http://11235813.com/mj/

by Guest Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:45 am

This a great find Im thinking....Well done!!!

by StenniZ Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:36 am

Following Starsun, who added Michael's initials (MJ) to the url, I thought I'ld try and add other initials. I started with GJ (Germaine) which didn't result to anything, after that I tried LJ (LaToya Jackson) which gave me some more pics, like with MJ. Here they are (doubt if this has anything to do with MJ). Looks like a page someone uses, to test-upload or something (also given the car-add, when you add the text "escape").

Here's the link + individual links to the pics:

http://11235813.com/lj

https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img42/7503/lj1b.jpg
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img42/1426/lj2o.jpg
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img40/9472/lj3f.jpg
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img215/5594/lj4.jpg
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img200/5093/lj5v.jpg
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img199/3739/lj6d.jpg
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img41/2627/lj7f.jpg
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img42/1025/lj8.jpg

Adding only the letter "J" also provides more images by the way....

http://11235813.com/j/

by CaptainJaneway Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:42 am

The blond lady looks like a man. Look at the arms. lefora | leachim Confused

I think it is a man.

by Guest Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:38 am

WTH? Im completely lost here.. Why all of these riddles??? I havent got a clue

by Starsun_ Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:18 am

I agree StenniZ this has nothing to do with MJ

by StenniZ Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:30 am

Starsun_ wrote:I agree StenniZ this has nothing to do with MJ

Yeah, would be too far sought. Before you know it they will make us think that THIS:

lefora | leachim Grover

guy is involved. ;-)

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:16 am

OMG....why does the name Eric Schulte sound SO FAMILIAR?????? I know Ive seen that name recently...I KNOW I have!!

by justafan Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:18 am

zembla wrote:Wow! Excellent finds in this thread!
Note: MJHD.com is using GoDaddy as well. (Not saying they are involved, just adding it cause I remembered Amy saying this)

hmm, butthat could mean, that the people from MJHD are spreading stuff like the leachim site on the net to keep their forum interesting

by illusionist Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:30 am

Those pictures are kinda creepy. Actually, this is just getting weird. lefora | leachim Icon_eek

by zembla Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:57 am

After having checked the other pics on the 'Hallowed be thy nada...' site I too feel this is a bit too far-fetched of a theory.

@justafan: I understand what you're saying but we should take something into consideration here;
If you do a google search on "Message authentication code 11235813"
a lot of webpages appear, one of them being the Illuminustheo blog:
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html
If you proceed to the comments you'll see the Leachim messages appear, posted by anonymous on August 19th. So they have been out for a couple of weeks now and the bomb over on MJHD only recently exploded.
Leading up to August 19th I don't think an awful lot of members had left the forum. My thoughts on this might be wrong, but I don't think MJHD needed the extra attention at that point.

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