latoya speaks to barbara walters on 20/20

by marsheliamorgan Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:49 am

latoya had her interview on 20/20 last nite and at first she and barbara were discussing michael's fashion sense.toya spoke of michael in PRESENT tense,saying "and he wears it well,he wears it well" thats pretty much all i could get out of it.the rest she went on to say the children will be homeschooled and NO televison other than the disney channel,that is the way michael had it and she talked about the necklace that paris gave one half to michael etc.and she talked about how he was dressed in casket,she said,all white beaded across the chest,(possibly brocade?) and FULL makeup,and wearing black leather gloves.he looked fabulous,(theres that line again)then she went on to speak about her abusive relationship/marrigage and how she was controlled and her husband had been threatening her and MICHAELS life if she didnt follow thru with what husband told her to do.so she says she can understand what michael was going thru having other people around him controlling him and that he kept telling her that he was in fear for his life(apparently he didnt say WHOM he was afraid of exactly)but,that they were going to kill him,i dont know,they did show one piece of footage of the memorial where it looked as if paris was crying and toya wiped paris's face and hugged her while sitting in the chairs during memorial,but,it wasnt close up so it was hard to tell exactly.So,i dont know what to make out of this now OH,she did answer b..w. when babs started in on michael being a peodille,she TALKED ABOUT MICHAEL IN PRESENT TENSE.also there,she said, HE ISNT and you could tell that toya was getting very angry with babs at this point.like i said,its still a confusing piece of film.

by Human_nature Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:53 am

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:04 am

O my God you guys rock!!

by marsheliamorgan Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:08 am

thanks H.N. by the way did u notice where she said she signed death certificate because murray wouldnt?is that standard practice,i mean,couldnt she only sign for identification,that doesnt make it legal right?doesnt a DOCTOR have to sign on it before it can be legal?doesnt a doctor have to pronouce a person dead?

by happytomato Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:09 am

she repeats what she said on the german tv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVbj255-SuU

but i do not understand the other interviews.

what is important to say.
the staff of the rented house were not there when the family arrived. they were fired fired.
she has not taken the unrealsed songs and the hard drive diks

by marsheliamorgan Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:17 am

right,she also said the house looked as it had been ramshacked so,could someone,(michael)have been in a hurry to get some last minute things together as ALL the household staff were released as soon as michael left house,so did the body guards ramshack the house or what?this was a good point,if she doesnt have the hard disk,could michael have grabbed it on his way out to possibly work alittle more on music he didnt consider finshed and ready for release?

by Human_nature Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:40 am

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by mjssoulmate Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:42 am

Thanks for posting the vids. I only caught the last 5 minutes last night. LaToya keeps switching between present and past tense. I don't know what to make of this. One thing that I heard for the first time is that she went to Michael's house between 23:30 and 24:00 after his death. Also, I thought that more people viewed the body at the memorial, not just her and the kids. Not even the mother? I find that strange. So who has actually seen the body? LaToya and the kids, Jermaine, but who else?
On another note: I find it hard to get an "impression". Both LaToya and Barbara have a total lack of facial expressions (due to plastic surgery) and what I hear doesn't quite match up with what I see. Does that make any sense?

by Human_nature Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:45 am

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by happytomato Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:49 am

do u understand the other parts of the video. My german is very weak lol
in particular when she spoke about Dr Murray. She said that MJ had not hired him.

she spoke about the private detective ?? But i do understand the rest of the sentence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B24KsyNR1xU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JRQYqec8Lg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JRmYf_Lu20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk84slAqF2E

by Human_nature Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:23 am

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by Guest Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:23 am

marsheliamorgan wrote:thanks H.N. by the way did u notice where she said she signed death certificate because murray wouldnt?is that standard practice,i mean,couldnt she only sign for identification,that doesnt make it legal right?doesnt a DOCTOR have to sign on it before it can be legal?doesnt a doctor have to pronouce a person dead?

yes a doc has to sign it for it to be legal

by marsheliamorgan Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:59 am

what i find also strange,at the end,where she starts to get emotional,THERE ARE STILL NO TEARS,i just find it odd,if you are this tore up,how do you keep the tears from coming?and yep,she says how SHE was put in charge of things,where to bury,well,than why all the reports of family NOT agreeing on where to bury?if she was in charge,would it matter what the other members were sayig or where they wanted him buried?and still didnt say WHY waited 2 monts for another service there are just SO many unanswered questions here still i think

by mjssoulmate Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:11 am

Ok, I just watched the German interview from August 6th. To recap:
LaToya mentioned that she only lives three minutes from Michael, so she immediatly left for the hospital when she heard. She called the hospital on the way and her mother says in the background:"Tell her he is dead." When she finally gets there LaToya keeps saying "Is it true, is it true?" The nurse said "No, it's not true", but when she sees her mother and the kids it's a different story. The kids point out Dr. Conrad to her. She starts asking him questions, which he does'nt answer to her satisfaction. He then disappears. (LaToya is the one who ordered the second autopsy. I always heard it was Katherine. LaToya is also the one who decided on Forest Lawn. I thought it was Katherine's decision. LaToya is also the one who organized the memorial at Staples Center). LaToya and the kids go in to see Michael's body. Katherine doesn't want to see the body. Strange? La Toya says it was the best thing for the kids that they saw the body, because once they saw him dead all the crying stopped. I must point out that I'm not sure wether she meant viewing at the hospital or the memorial. The translator doesn't clarify, and I can't make out what LaToya says at that point. About the viewing on July 7th she says that anyone who wanted to see the body could see it, but no one wanted to, only herself and the kids. So again, just how many people saw Michael dead? LaToya, the children and Jermaine. Has anyone else mentioned viewing the body? I find it odd that the mother never saw her dead son. Joe mentioned on Larry King that he never saw the body. I thought that was strange enough, even in light of the relationship with Michael, but not even the mother?
Toward the end of the video it is said that the parents, Katherine and Joe have hired private investigators to probe into death of their son, because they thought the police investigation was fouled up.

by happytomato Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:38 am

thank u very much for the translation mjssoulmate

by mjssoulmate Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:41 am

ANYTIME! GERMAN IS MY FIRST LANGUAGE.

by 2000watts Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:19 pm

i thought the Jackons had Kenny Oretag arrange the whole memorial..I did not tink Latoya had any say in this at all..The family asked AEG people to arrange the whole thing..

And a family memeber signs a DC as well as a Doc...the family signs it as proof of the idenity..the doc signs it as proof of death..and here we are..going on three months later and still no doc has signed it.

Also..why was he buried with black leather gloves? WTF is that about? He never wore black leather gloves..

marlon said he was going to be buried wearing his white glove..

I just dont get it..if your going to lie, at leas get together, hold a damn meeting and get the lies straight.

The black leather gloves though..why? Mike never wore two gloves at once..

Im confused by this decision.

by mjssoulmate Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:56 pm

I had the same question about the gloves and someone said that he wore two black gloves at the 1993 Grammy awards. I checked it out and he did. Latoya also said that the white glove is in the casket with him, but she kinda hesitated when Barbara asked her about that.

Love you always, Michael

by Guest Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:16 pm

mjssoulmate wrote:Ok, I just watched the German interview from August 6th. To recap:
LaToya mentioned that she only lives three minutes from Michael, so she immediatly left for the hospital when she heard. She called the hospital on the way and her mother says in the background:"Tell her he is dead." When she finally gets there LaToya keeps saying "Is it true, is it true?" The nurse said "No, it's not true", but when she sees her mother and the kids it's a different story. The kids point out Dr. Conrad to her. She starts asking him questions, which he does'nt answer to her satisfaction. He then disappears. (LaToya is the one who ordered the second autopsy. I always heard it was Katherine. LaToya is also the one who decided on Forest Lawn. I thought it was Katherine's decision. LaToya is also the one who organized the memorial at Staples Center). LaToya and the kids go in to see Michael's body. Katherine doesn't want to see the body. Strange? La Toya says it was the best thing for the kids that they saw the body, because once they saw him dead all the crying stopped. I must point out that I'm not sure wether she meant viewing at the hospital or the memorial. The translator doesn't clarify, and I can't make out what LaToya says at that point. About the viewing on July 7th she says that anyone who wanted to see the body could see it, but no one wanted to, only herself and the kids. So again, just how many people saw Michael dead? LaToya, the children and Jermaine. Has anyone else mentioned viewing the body? I find it odd that the mother never saw her dead son. Joe mentioned on Larry King that he never saw the body. I thought that was strange enough, even in light of the relationship with Michael, but not even the mother?
Toward the end of the video it is said that the parents, Katherine and Joe have hired private investigators to probe into death of their son, because they thought the police investigation was fouled up.

This has to be a joke???
If the children saw Michael lying dead at a hospital strecther, I can asure they would be traumatized for the rest of their lives. They didnt look traumatized to me at the memorial. Im not allowed to say this, and I shouldent, but im gonna do it anyway. The children looked bored to me, in my true opinion. I know its a horrible thing to say, but thats how I felt.

Why has Latoya orginized everything?? And katrine did not see the body? If it was my baby, I would want to see the body, no matter how hard it would be. Katrine sais, he was dead, but the nurse said no. WTH???

Can they deside any time soon?

by mjssoulmate Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:21 pm

Yeah, it's strange to me too that Katherine never saw the body. How can you have any closure without that?

by 2000watts Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:56 pm

so just beause Michael wore two black gloves ONE time in 1993, they bury him with them?

MJ whole persona was wearing one glove...he said he did not want to be like everone else, thats why he wore ONE glove..

Everyone else wore two gloves, he did not want to be like everyone else..

still not buying it...

still does not make sense..

I find it hard to belive Kathrine never saw the body either..

The children saw his dead body but not his mother?

not buying that one either..

by doubleo Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:53 pm

None of it makes sense to me either and the family is getting worse and worse at holding it together. That's why I think the hoax is gonna unravel soon. I have a hard time believing anything she says and they couldn't have been that close either. If my brother told me that he was afraid for his life (for any reason) and I lived 3 minutes away from him, I'd be around him like there's no tomorrow. He would get sick of me. And I don't believe Katherine is that slow that she wouldn't want proof of her son's death. Proof with her own eyes first. She knew the world her child was living in. She knew there were doubles of him, that security was a serious issue for him, etc. NOne of this makes sense and I bet MJ is getting pretty pissed right now cause they are really screwing this up. If he could put a muzzle on the brother and sister that already tried to sell him out, he might be able to keep this going a little longer. But, with Pinky and the Brain...uhm, er, I meant Toya and Jermaine on the scene, I'm starting to look at this more like a comedy than a mystery. LOL

by mysticallymagestically Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:57 pm

@doubleo
I agree, it does seem like more a comedy than a mystery. Like a black comedy.
I don't know whether I'm supposed to laugh or cry at the shenanigans of Jermaine and LaToya.

by 2000watts Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:32 pm

doubleleo,
OMG..that was 2 funny.

I bet he is pretty pissed:)

and your right about everything u said!

yeah its all going to unravel at a pretty rapid pace here soon..

no doubt.

when your siblings double cross u in life, u can not expect much out of them in "death"

by happytomato Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:12 pm

Yesterday's astonishing development was revealed by Terry Harvey, a long-time
friend of the Jackson family, in an exclusive interview with us.
Terry said: "The autopsy shows that Michael died of a drug overdose with
Diprivan and a range of pills in his stomach. He had needle marks on his
neck and all over his body.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/michael_jackson/412480/Michael-Jackson-murder-charges-in-days-Cops-hunt-Jacko-killer.html
what do u think ?

by marsheliamorgan Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:17 pm

i am STILL calling BS if he had needle marks on his neck and all over his body,HOW DID he pass that 4 or 5 hour phsical?UNLESS,the real michael went and took the physical and the other michael is the body

by neverlandprincess Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:18 pm

happytomato wrote:Yesterday's astonishing development was revealed by Terry Harvey, a long-time
friend of the Jackson family, in an exclusive interview with us.
Terry said: "The autopsy shows that Michael died of a drug overdose with
Diprivan and a range of pills in his stomach. He had needle marks on his
neck and all over his body.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/michael_jackson/412480/Michael-Jackson-murder-charges-in-days-Cops-hunt-Jacko-killer.html
what do u think ?

Not sure but I have issues with any "news" media that words its titles calling Michael "Jacko"-it is so immature and Michael hated it. Also -when did Joe make no secret about trying to get Michael into "rehab"-its just like everything else -back and forth back and forth.

by mjssoulmate Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:38 pm

That was in July before the official coroner's report came out. I think he's just another who says " I wanted to help him, but wasn't allowed " BS
As for having all these needle marks all over his neck - again BS
Michael had his neck uncovered during the rehearsal photos. Someone else would have noticed. And he was in good shape. No one can function with all this poison in the system. I don't care what they say, not even if the body gets used to it. He couldn't have had breakfast and lunch with his kids every day, if that was the case. He probably couldn't even have had an intelligent conversation. People would have noticed, especially the LLoyds of London docs who gave him a 4 hour physical. It's all BS

by neverlandprincess Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:42 pm

mjssoulmate wrote:That was in July before the official coroner's report came out. I think he's jut another who says " I wanted to help him, but wasn't allowed " BS
As for having all these needle maeks ll over his neck - again BS
Michael had his neck uncovered during the rehearsal photos. Someone else would have noticed. And he was in good shape. No one can function with all this poison in your system. I don't care what they say, not even if your body gets used to it. He couldn't have had breakfast and lunch with his kids every day, if that was the case. He probably couldn't even have had an intelligent conversation. People would have noticed, especially the LLoyds of London docs who gave him a 4 hour physical. It's all BS

YUP! It is safe to say -(especially since they finally told what was actualy in MJs system-which was the equivalent of -ehem-nothing that would be in a druggies system-) that MJ was not and is not or never was a "drug addict"-and it ticks me off when people just write it off to that. Look at EVERYTHING ppl! When this whole thing first started-like June 26 my Pastor who used to be a drug adict saw that 10 sec clip we all saw from the TII rehearsals and said "that looks like a concert,if he died of drugs it was because someone forced them into his system,because you cannot get around like that and be an addict".

by happytomato Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:44 pm

i know and moreover the medical repport has disapeared

MICHAEL JACKSON
MEDICAL REPORT MISSING

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/michael-jackson-medical-report-missing_1111899

Michael
Jackson insurers thought glowing medical examination for tour must
have been on "the body of a Nasa astronaut"

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/08/05/jacko-o2-ok-medic-115875-21572108/

Michael
Jackson's contract with AEG for his "This Is It" tour
was filed with the Los Angeles County Superior Court as part of the
ongoing probate matter, and RadarOnline.com has obtained a
copy of the blockbuster document.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/exclusive-michael-jackson-signed-aeg-contract-stating-he-had-no-known-health

The
investigation into the death of Michael Jackson is being treated
as possible manslaughter, according to a search warrant relating
to the pop star's personal doctor filed with the Los Angeles courts.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/24/jackson-death-possible-manslaughter

by 2000watts Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:24 pm

I had to stop reading it, because they kept referring to Michael as "Jacko"

that gets my blood boiling!

as Mike said.."im not a jacko, im a jackson"

assholes..

sorry for the sailor talk:)

by neverlandprincess Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:26 pm

2000watts wrote:I had to stop reading it, because they kept referring to Michael as "Jacko"

that gets my blood boiling!

as Mike said.."im not a jacko, im a jackson"

assholes..

sorry for the sailor talk:)

Exactly-I write anything off that says "Jacko"-as soon as I see it-I am like trash garbage

by Guest Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:18 pm

I just watched the interwiev, Damn I cryed. At 04:05 (this is the first link) You see Latoya wiping away tears from Paris`s face. But what caught my attentions was. Its filmed from behind. You see them from behind. As far as Im aware, there was NOT cameras, behind them. Who was filming this??

At 6:26 Latoya says:" And i LOVE him, we always play, with brotches and things"
Pressence talk AGAIN. It starting to get on my nerves, it has almost been 3 months now, they should have learned to talk about him, in past sence by now.

I remember when Michael said " Pretty soon im gonna take them with me on stage, and let the world see them for the first time" referring too his children. Could that be the thing for the memorial? I mean, Michael was there somehow.

What the hell is up with Latoya beeing Dressed Like Mike? She says its in his honor. Well, mabye, she should have been wearing that at the funeral instedt of that "Party dress" she wore.

When she is asked, if she to this day thinks that Michael is a ( im not gonna say the word) She says:" No he is NOT" Then she repeats herself " He IS not.

Latoya says: "He looked beautiful in his casket, he was wearing all white, and full makeup" Im sorry to say this, but how can someone look "beautiful" in his casket after beeing inthere for 2 months??

" People is not like Michael is"

The pressence sence talk, breaks my heart everytime.. Why are they keep doing this? No wonder people cant get closure. She said, that noone really wanted to see Michael in his casket, only her and the children.

Okey thats just weird.

But I do think at one point it was only those who saw him, Michael told his children, to be brave, and that he needed to go away for a while, but he would be back for them, before christmas.

And I think he told Latoya to do what she do best ACT!!!

by Human_nature Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:22 pm

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by Guest Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:31 pm

Human_nature wrote:
Human_nature wrote:ok I found who filmed LaToya and Paris ....

Barbara Walters as well....

But who's the other woman who aloso take picture or film ?

Why Barbara Walters in the SECOND row ????

@ MBMJ

I posted this , page one here.

Okey this is weirder by the second. Why the hell is she filming it with a cellphone.. ??? This was put on the interwiev on PURPOSE! Dont tell me any diffrent cause I wont belive it. Does it seem odd to you??

by Human_nature Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:51 pm

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

by mjssoulmate Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:01 pm

I'm still wondering who else actually saw the body. I only know of LaToya, the children and Jermaine. Neither of the parents and no other sibling. What's up with that?

by Give.In.To.Me Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:37 pm

Actually that footage of the women filming...the next day on The View Barbara Walters showed it. It was her producer or some one like that who filmed it with Barbara.

by mjssoulmate Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:36 pm

This is the thread pinkshot.

by Guest Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:56 pm

Thanks lol

I pasted it in my thread and followed up latoya speaks to barbara walters on 20/20 Icon_sunny

by MJSmile4Us Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:53 am

watching the interview with LaToya made me depressed and felt like I was back at where I was on June 25th & especially July 7th latoya speaks to barbara walters on 20/20 Icon_cry

although LaToya is not trustworthy but what IF she was telling the truth? mayb this is my sleep-deprived talk..right now I am too tired but can't fall asleep if I do lie on the bed,,I am emotionally exhausted...

and I couldn't stop crying at times when watching the interview and a tv show that I watched 2day with a death scene in it..I feel really ridiculous..maybe its one of those days latoya speaks to barbara walters on 20/20 Icon_cry

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