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Post by CharlieBarley on Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:25 pm

OK everyone, I maybe looking far too much into this, but please bear with me and take a look.
First I googled "Germania" this came up please look:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania

You will see the location on the map of where Germania is.

The great river that runs through is the River Rhine.

I then googled "the great banqueting hall River Rhine"

It came up with a place called Marksburg so I googled " The great banqueting hall Marksburg" this is what came up:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=the+great+banqueting+hall+marksburg&meta=&btnG=Google+Search

As you will see the top link is the circuit of a castle and the 13th image down is the great banqueting hall.
http://www.marksburg.de/english/frame.htm (go to the circuit link and look at the images)



So this all exists!!
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Post by mo2kidzs on Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:33 pm

Yep and it makes sense:)
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Post by CharlieBarley on Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:38 pm

I am trying to work down the list and piece it together. Even if it leads to nothing I think it is still worth investigating. I think the bit that goes something like this:|||||||\\||||\\
I think it may be a date? I think? I looked at roman numerals but it's not that. I don't think?

All I can say the moment is thank the heavens for google Smile
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Post by mo2kidzs on Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:41 pm

Yeah I had checked google for the river too... we both right there lol.. yes I think it's some sort of date, but I have no clue what where from.
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Post by Rach on Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:12 pm

This is intersting stuff! I really do think that this concert will be more than a tribute to Michael.

I mentioned in another thread that it seems too soon after his "death" to me and they should have waited until after a year or so because the memorial was more of a tribute to fans. I think it's looking more and more likely that this is where Michael will make his come back.

Just out of interest, does the date of the concert tie in with the Halloween movie theory?
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Post by MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs on Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:16 pm

I think those lines ARE a date.

|||||||\\||||\\

7 straight lines -- O C T O B E R

4 straight lines -- 3 0 t h
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Post by Rach on Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:21 pm

MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs wrote:I think those lines ARE a date.

|||||||\\||||\\

7 straight lines -- O C T O B E R

4 straight lines -- 3 0 t h

How did you get that Hon?
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Post by CharlieBarley on Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:22 pm

Here are how the lines are lined up:

||||||| \|||\\||||\\|||

It may not be a date, but I think it is a good possibility. But I am confident now JCC was talking about the River Rhine as it is in Germania and Marksburg is where the Great Banquetting hall is which is by the Rhine river.
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Post by MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs on Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:24 pm

Charlie!!!!! GREAT FINDS!!
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Post by MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs on Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:25 pm

I copied 'em wrong...sorry....(was too eager..) oops
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Post by MrsBenjamin on Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:28 pm

this one is soo hard
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Post by MrsBenjamin on Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:31 pm

okay.....
those lines \\ means path.....

A path is the general form of a file or directory name, specifying a unique location in a file system
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Post by morla on Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:17 pm

MARKSBURG???? No good idea - if there would something go on, I knew about - 15 min. with the car and we had a great fireworks show this evening with the castle involveld - no possibility to hide someone there...

But I can have a look if you insist on it (my mother said today that she would like to go there once again - what coincidence Smile ...)

I don't know the background why this castle should be involved - but it's a nice place (to visit) Smile. But no one is allowed to live there - it's a museum...

If you have any questions to that castle, feel free to ask Smile ...

No my living place is involved - interesting idea Smile (by the way: I read in internet after the 25th that a woman reported that she and herb kid has seen Michael in Phantasialand going to the BLACK MAMBA....and Phantasialand is in Cologne - 100 km distance Wink ) - no proofs, no further rumour...

I'm living here - nothing going on...but if you tell me for what to look, I can have one Smile ...
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Post by morla on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:24 am

http://maps.google.de/maps?hl=de&q=Kastellaun&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=de&ei=HpR-StLrGIWqsAb16N2LCg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1 (click "Route berechnen" and then type "Marxburg")

From Marxburg to Kastellaun are 55,6 km Smile Cool

https://mjkit.forumotion.net/welcome-f1/michael-in-germany-t216.htm

No, I do not have further proofs, I just wanted to let you know the fact...

If I see him, I take pictures with my C905 - promise Smile
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Post by StenniZ on Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:36 pm

CharlieBarley wrote:I am trying to work down the list and piece it together. Even if it leads to nothing I think it is still worth investigating. I think the bit that goes something like this:|||||||\\||||\\
I think it may be a date? I think? I looked at roman numerals but it's not that. I don't think?

All I can say the moment is thank the heavens for google Smile

I'm confused...where did you see those lines and how do the seven vertical lines in this topic add up to the word "October"? Smile I'm obviously missing something.
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Post by CharlieBarley on Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:02 pm

StenniZ
Please see the thread posted by Human Nature

https://mjkit.forumotion.net/recap-threads-f9/jcc-recap-just-incase-we-can-find-something-ok-t195.htm

You will see the lines. Jcc posted the lines. The one's you highlighted are not the correct lines, I have confused everyone I think?

Take a look at the lines on Human Natures link they are the correct lines. I think they could be a date?
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Post by Savannah on Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:04 pm

I know I saved this "Piece of a clue" somewhere...I just have to find it. I have saved so many posts that it is really hard for me when I need to find something. lol. I never gave that days "saves" a good title...just mj1, mj2, etc. Anyway, I am pretty sure that after the 7 lines, there was a space bofore the 2 \\...I am not positive, but almost. Wink
So it would be this: lllllll \\llll\\
Instead of: lllllll\\llll\\
I don't know if a space would mean much, but JCC put that space there for a reason. I thought alot about this one last night. I even tried turning it upside down and flipping it
which would be: //llll// lllllll. My crazy mind even thought possibly:
// = Feb
llll = 4
// = 2
space = nothing...so 0
lllllll = 7
So maybe Feb 4, 2007. I googled that date last night to see if there was anything historic that may of happened on that day that could give us a clue. I feel like you guys trying to figure these out....I have absolutely lost my mind. (haha) After you think about it too much, you can't really think at all. I took a break last night and am ready to go to work!!! clown
Let me know what you think so I don't feel like I am losing my mind by myself, ok? lol
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Post by CharlieBarley on Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:08 pm

That is strange Morla,

I came up with Marksburg by following the JCC messages, then Knocki06 said he saw MJ in kastellaun and they are close together? COOL!!! This is looking promising.

https://mjkit.forumotion.net/welcome-f1/michael-in-germany-t216.htm
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Post by Savannah on Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:09 pm

Ok, so the space was right...let me re-figure this now.
The correct line sequence: ||||||| \|||\\||||\\|||
Ok...I got nothing!!! (haha) Erase everything in my post above. The date thing wouldn't work on the correct sequence. pale I'll have to keep thinking on this one!!!
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Post by StenniZ on Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:18 pm

CharlieBarley wrote:StenniZ
Please see the thread posted by Human Nature

https://mjkit.forumotion.net/recap-threads-f9/jcc-recap-just-incase-we-can-find-something-ok-t195.htm

You will see the lines. Jcc posted the lines. The one's you highlighted are not the correct lines, I have confused everyone I think?

Take a look at the lines on Human Natures link they are the correct lines. I think they could be a date?

Thanks for the info CharlieBarley! Smile I'm certainly gonna look into it! Smile
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Post by CharlieBarley on Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:27 pm

Please do look into it StenniZ but the most important thing we need to take in, I feel is the very first thing I said on this thread. The fact I followed JCC's information and came up with Marksburg and the banquetting hall is in Marksburg. Follow the info.

Then today on this thread someone called knocki06 claims to have seen MJ in a place called Kastellaun and Morla above has just said that Marksburg and Kastellaun are about 55km apart.

I am really, really now believing everything JCC said, it's making sense!
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Post by morla on Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:55 pm

Souza deleted my entry in this moment on Kastellaun and Marxxburg *grmpf*

So, once again:

1. Nature One is real: http://www.nature-one.de/events/nature-one/

2. Nothing strange ongoing here (except a Simple Minds concert in a castle in Neuwied/Engers - but I think this can't be connected).

2. No strange announcements from Marxburg, a lot of tourists visting that place. BUT: A secret meeting could have happend there - the castle can be booked for private parties and medieval meals...

4. No, I can't go around and search with no more clues - leads to nowhere.

5. If you want to investigate something concrete in this area, let me know (I am living in Koblenz -> see google maps in "Portal" Smile.)

If I can help, I will - and I promise, I will take pictures Wink .

It's a bit spooky to see these places mentioned here alien


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Post by ilprincipe on Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:16 pm

thanks for posting again morla..
i think we get closer....
i already contacted souza and requested her to rebuild the thread..
it was important and we worked hard on it...
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Post by STARbaybeeRoqk on Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:57 pm

sooo do we all think that JCC is a legit person...and he/she was blocked on the other thread...but they still sign in the last time i checked on MJHD he/she signed in on August 8 at least they still checkup on stuff
i always thought that JCC meant something but hes the only one out of evryone on MJHD thread that got blocked and had read-only post who was posting things for us to examine like Stay Silent and JackLondon all of them are still able to post i dont get it...why just block JCC because some people found him.her interesting.... i did
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Post by endlessfire on Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:45 pm

i'm lost who is jcc?
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Post by StenniZ on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:43 am

endlessfire wrote:i'm lost who is jcc?

Someone who posted mysterious posts about MJ. JCC stands for Joke Calms China (anagram for Michael Jackson). Though at first, his/her claims seemed over the top and too mysterious, now some of it is making quite some sence....or isn't it? Smile At least, that's what I'm making of the whole thing. Hope this helps you.
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Post by Rach on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:44 am

I'm working on some JCC stuff at the minute guys but it's so hard! I know it wasn't meant to be made easy but this is something else!

I will post when I have put some stuff together Smile
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Post by CharlieBarley on Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:54 am

Hi Rachel this is what I have so far with JCC:


JCC:
-I am a very close London based friend of MJ.
-I am not prepared to say too much but a few people on this site are very close to the truth with what they are speculating.
-Everything will become clear soon, trust MJ.
-I cannot reveal too much at this present time but I can tell you, MJ is happy now.
-“Please understand the sensitive nature of this issue.”
-“People could go to prison can you see my reason for being so secretive.”
Jcc:
-“Germany is key”
-“I must go now”
-"I shall not be able to post very often as I will be travelling out of the country"
-“The Sweetest River in Germania”


OK so then I google the word Germania, please see link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania


Germania was the Latin exonym for a geographical area of land on the east bank of the River Rhine (inner Germania), which included regions of Sarmatia as well as an area under Roman control on the west bank of the Rhine. The name came into use after Julius Caesar adopted it from a Gallic term for the peoples east of the Rhine that probably meant "neighbour"
You will see on this map the area of Germania:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Germania_Superior_SPQR.png

So the river that runs through Germania, is the River Rhine. (Could that be The sweetest river in Germania?)

JCC:
-"I'll still be here on “1st August 2009″
Where? In Germania?

JCC:
-“German Banquitting Hall”

Ok now so the clues are: Germania, River Rhine, and Banquetting hall. So I googled that and it came up with this.
Now the site I am showing you was top of the search a place called “Marksburg” I think it is a castle here is an image of the castle:

http://api.ning.com/files/2GtxRmwiJrsj6fz*sfRHbafYYhT1hT*UnYdGXQlvT4M_/GermanyRhineValley2007080.jpg


The next image is the castle and you can see the River Rhine in-front of the castle:

http://www.vikingrivercruises.com/us/Images/RhineGetaway-hero-686x262_tcm43-11991.jpg


There is a circuit that run’s through the castle grounds, please see the link:
http://www.marksburg.de/english/rundgang1.htm


As you will see on there is “The Banquetting Hall” in the grounds of the castle Here is an image of the banqueting hall


http://www.marksburg.de/english/rundgang1.htm

The info given on the hall, which is known as the “Great Banquetting Halll:
The adjoining room is the impressive Rittersaal (Great Banqueting Hall) with its mighty fireplace, a gothic chest and armchair. A unique item is the garderobe (medieval toilet) integrated into the wall on a corbel above the upper bailey. Note the portrait of Landgrave Johann II of Hessen (a.k.a. "The Belligerent"), one of the great compaigners of the 30 Years' War (1618-1648).


JCC:

“Censorship”


The meaning of cencorship:
1. The act, process, or practice of censoring.
2. The office or authority of a Roman censor.
3. Psychology Prevention of disturbing or painful thoughts or feelings from reaching consciousness except in a disguised form.

Read No.1 and 3 read carefully, interesting?
No 3, disguised form?


JCC then wrote this:
-" ||||||| \|||\\||||\\||| "
I think this is some sort of code for a date?

Jcc:
-"princess grace"


Correct me if I am wrong? But as far as I am aware there is a conspiracy theory behind Princess Grace that people believe she was murdered and died in similar circumstances to Princess Diane. I am sure Princess Grace died in a crash too.

So maybe JCC was hinting that people were out to murder MJ and had to go into hiding, but it also could fit in as part of a story for the film theory.


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Post by Rach on Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:18 am

Thanks for reposting charliebarley!

I will have a look over your points when I have had a bit of sleep lol.

I have been looking at the colour of flowers clue and also the importance of 1st August but my ideas are sketchy at the moment so I don't want to post them on the thread! I think you're doing some amazing work with this btw!
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:42 am

I think JCC was for real, and you have done a great job with the clues!
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Post by ilprincipe on Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:02 am

Hey Charlie, I ♥️ your work Smile

Although Souza deleted one thread.... I had a conversation with a guy called
Knockie...
He visited a techno Festival in KASTELLAUN...in Germany....
If you separate the words...
KASTEL is an old german word for an ancient castle....
There`s still a ruin from the former castle in Kastellaun.

And Kastellaun is located nearby 2 rivers....
Rhine and Moselle...
Moselle is a wine-growing area....
The wine which is produced there is mostly SWEET vine...
so Moselle has to be the sweet river.

I don`t know if I shall believe what Knockie told...
Kastellaun is a little city with about 5000 people who live there.
Once a year they have a techno festival called "Nature One"
The motto this year was "Smile is the answer"
It`s funny, because i relate it to "Smile" what Jermaine sang
on the memorial and where he mixed up gladness and sadness!

I think...everybody believes he can have a MJ sighting at an
airport..or maybe Dubai...and so on...
Now one would think he would be there...
there are lots of crazy people...people in disguise, who attend
this festival...
The guys who think they saw him (at an ATM in the centre of Kastellaun)
nobody will believe them...everybody thinks they are stoned...
or had taken to much XTC....
and this could be the intension, that MJs cover will not blown up...

---- Just a thought---

To your thread, some thoughts in green..


CharlieBarley wrote:Hi Rachel this is what I have so far with JCC:


JCC:
-I am a very close London based friend of MJ.
-I am not prepared to say too much but a few people on this site are very close to the truth with what they are speculating.
-Everything will become clear soon, trust MJ.
-I cannot reveal too much at this present time but I can tell you, MJ is happy now.
-“Please understand the sensitive nature of this issue.”
-“People could go to prison can you see my reason for being so secretive.”
Jcc:
-“Germany is key”
-“I must go now”
-"I shall not be able to post very often as I will be travelling out of the country"
-“The Sweetest River in Germania”


OK so then I google the word Germania, please see link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania


Germania was the Latin exonym for a geographical area of land on the east bank of the River Rhine (inner Germania), which included regions of Sarmatia as well as an area under Roman control on the west bank of the Rhine. The name came into use after Julius Caesar adopted it from a Gallic term for the peoples east of the Rhine that probably meant "neighbour"
You will see on this map the area of Germania:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Germania_Superior_SPQR.png

So the river that runs through Germania, is the River Rhine. (Could that be The sweetest river in Germania?)

JCC:
-"I'll still be here on “1st August 2009″
Where? In Germania?
He was seen in Kastellaun on July 31th.....


JCC:
-“German Banquitting Hall”
Nature One takes place once a year in a former NATO rocket station called Pydna.

Ok now so the clues are: Germania, River Rhine, and Banquetting hall. So I googled that and it came up with this.
Now the site I am showing you was top of the search a place called “Marksburg” I think it is a castle here is an image of the castle:

http://api.ning.com/files/2GtxRmwiJrsj6fz*sfRHbafYYhT1hT*UnYdGXQlvT4M_/GermanyRhineValley2007080.jpg


The next image is the castle and you can see the River Rhine in-front of the castle:

http://www.vikingrivercruises.com/us/Images/RhineGetaway-hero-686x262_tcm43-11991.jpg


There is a circuit that run’s through the castle grounds, please see the link:
http://www.marksburg.de/english/rundgang1.htm


As you will see on there is “The Banquetting Hall” in the grounds of the castle Here is an image of the banqueting hall


http://www.marksburg.de/english/rundgang1.htm

The info given on the hall, which is known as the “Great Banquetting Halll:
The adjoining room is the impressive Rittersaal (Great Banqueting Hall) with its mighty fireplace, a gothic chest and armchair. A unique item is the garderobe (medieval toilet) integrated into the wall on a corbel above the upper bailey. Note the portrait of Landgrave Johann II of Hessen (a.k.a. "The Belligerent"), one of the great compaigners of the 30 Years' War (1618-1648).


JCC:

“Censorship”


The meaning of cencorship:
1. The act, process, or practice of censoring.
2. The office or authority of a Roman censor.
3. Psychology Prevention of disturbing or painful thoughts or feelings from reaching consciousness except in a disguised form.

Read No.1 and 3 read carefully, interesting?
No 3, disguised form?


JCC then wrote this:
-" ||||||| \|||\\||||\\||| "
I think this is some sort of code for a date?

Jcc:
-"princess grace"


Correct me if I am wrong? But as far as I am aware there is a conspiracy theory behind Princess Grace that people believe she was murdered and died in similar circumstances to Princess Diane. I am sure Princess Grace died in a crash too. You are right...

So maybe JCC was hinting that people were out to murder MJ and had to go into hiding, but it also could fit in as part of a story for the film theory.


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Post by Knocki06 on Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:10 am

Im sorry but.... were is my posting? okay... I closed my mouth 4ever!!!
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Post by dianafan on Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:24 am

Could the 1111111 \\1111\\11 (00) be binary code


now that's as far as I have got really, I can only vaguely remember struggling with binary in school lol.

I have googled about a bit and if you understand binary you can convert to an ip address.

If anyone could find it or take this theory further?

Yet again if it comes to nothing I'm sorry
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Post by rellababy on Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:28 am

Knocki06 wrote:Im sorry but.... were is my posting? okay... I closed my mouth 4ever!!!

Sorry Knocki06 Admin might have deleted it because you didnt have any proof e.g pictures, video e.t.c
Admins message: https://mjkit.forumotion.net/admin-messages-f12/i-know-mj-or-i-have-seen-mj-in-the-supermarket-t232.htm
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Post by Knocki06 on Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:38 am

Im so sorry! sorry sorry!!!
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Post by StenniZ on Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:37 am

dianafan wrote:Could the 1111111 \\1111\\11 (00) be binary code


now that's as far as I have got really, I can only vaguely remember struggling with binary in school lol.

I have googled about a bit and if you understand binary you can convert to an ip address.

If anyone could find it or take this theory further?

Yet again if it comes to nothing I'm sorry

Hmmm... I found this page about the binary alphabet:

http://www.tekmom.com/buzzwords/binaryalphabet.html

and Wikipedia has an ASCII-conversion table. I'm at work right now, so I don't have the time to look into it at the moment. Perhaps someone with a little more (free) time can check it out. i'll have a go at it when I get home. Smile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascii
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Post by GirlInTheMirror1 on Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:39 am

I talked to JCC, too. He told me, Michael wasn´t going to come back, but he is free and happy now...
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Post by Rach on Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:44 am

GirlInTheMirror1 wrote:I talked to JCC, too. He told me, Michael wasn´t going to come back, but he is free and happy now...

When was this?!
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:05 pm

He's NOT coming back?? JCC, I am getting somewhere 8

this has ruined my year.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:05 pm

Im so devastated right now...
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:07 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:He's NOT coming back?? JCC, I am getting somewhere 8

this has ruined my year.
This has ruined my life No
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Post by ziffes on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:10 pm

well i can't blame him for wanting to get out of the spotlight.

i just want to know that he's ok and happy...
makes me REALLY sad not knowing.. Neutral
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:11 pm

Thats fucking bullshit for JCC to drag us along like that!! He gives us these fucked up riddles to figure out, giving all of us some glimmer of hope then he tells you Michales not coming back? WTF? Sorry for cursing, but God DAMMIT!!! Thats just downright mean and cruel!! Im a little pissed ya might say!

Sorry JCC if you read this, but thats not fair... Sad
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Post by CharlieBarley on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:25 pm

I hope JCC comes back here one day, to at least clarify this. Can anyone remember what we were speculating at the time? Was it the film theory? But JCC does say everything will become clear soon, I hope so!

JCC:


-I am not prepared to say too much but a few people on this site are very close to the truth with what they are speculating.
-Everything will become clear soon, trust MJ.
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Post by Rach on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:27 pm

This is why I didn't want people to latch onto what he was saying, because it messes with emotions.

Really guys, try not to get too upset about it. We don't know how credible he is or WHO he is. For all we know he could be a very smart 15 year old boy sat at his computer just looking for his next kick.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:41 pm

Thats true. Im sorry Rachel and everyone for lashing out. Please forgive me.
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Post by Rach on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:44 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Thats true. Im sorry Rachel and everyone for lashing out. Please forgive me.

No need to apologise! I know it's hard when we have all this stuff to work with and then he says that Micheal isn't coming back but we just have to keep the faith!

When you feel like he's not coming back just look at all the inconsistencies that still remain and that should cheer you up!
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Post by Smelly on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:46 pm

Well said Rachel!
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Post by GirlInTheMirror1 on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:51 pm

two days ago.
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Post by jpresley on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:53 pm

This extreme high and low of emotions is starting to wreak havoc w/ my head people! I am mentally, emotionally and physically exhausted!

But, honestly, this beats not having any hope at all, so I guess I should quit complaining, huh?? I honestly DO think all of us are here for a reason and I think Michael is loving it (wherever he may be). flower afro
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