Re: JCC, I am getting somewhere

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:53 pm

What was 2 days ago?

@Rachel ...Thanks babe. I feel bad anyways. I not a mean person but when I get sad, I get angry sometimes.....its a bad trait I have. Sorry again.

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:54 pm

Jpresley....do you think MJ even knows about this new site?

Im sure he knew of MJHD

by clover Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:06 pm

you remember the first clue, colour of flowers? If it's an anagram it translates to 'follow for course' so maybe if we look at them all in order it may make a bit more sense?

by ilprincipe Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:18 pm

hey clover!
Well done...this could be a solution of this part Smile

)))))))

by mjj29081958 Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:32 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:What was 2 days ago?

@Rachel ...Thanks babe. I feel bad anyways. I not a mean person but when I get sad, I get angry sometimes.....its a bad trait I have. Sorry again.

I think "2 days" is the answer to Rachel's question "when do you talk with JCC"!... Wink

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:40 pm

mjj29081958 wrote:
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:What was 2 days ago?

@Rachel ...Thanks babe. I feel bad anyways. I not a mean person but when I get sad, I get angry sometimes.....its a bad trait I have. Sorry again.

I think "2 days" is the answer to Rachel's question "when do you talk with JCC"!...

Ah!! got it!! Thanks!

by Rach Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:41 pm

I do think Michael knows about this site guys!

When I googled "Michael Jackson hoax death" last night this came up and we have had more people viewing the threads than there are members so people do know about us!

@ The Jacksonologist - You don't have to apologise to me Babes! I know it's hard when we are all on the edge like now and I have days when I want to scream and lash out at my family lol.

by indib Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:47 pm

There was a clue saying: sunshine boat games

Could it be something about this?

http://www.biztradeshows.com/trade-events/national-boat-show.html

by indib Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:53 pm

"you remember the first clue, colour of flowers?
If it's an anagram it translates to 'follow for course' so maybe if we
look at them all in order it may make a bit more sense?"

Could it be that the clues are kind of a timeline where and where he will be?
And maybe in Africa between the 14-16th of August? Just wondering.

by CharlieBarley Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:03 pm

Rachel wrote:I do think Michael knows about this site guys!

When I googled "Michael Jackson hoax death" last night this came up and we have had more people viewing the threads than there are members so people do know about us!

That's cool! I often see people on the forums say, "why would Michael come and read these forums? He has better things to do"

But I happened to be thinking about this last night. What would I do if I was in his shoes?

I would say I'd have to have a sneaky peek! Wink

by carpenoctem Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:11 pm

And maybe NOW he really does suffer from insomnia just like I do since all this began. lol!

by Rach Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:28 pm

carpenoctem wrote:And maybe NOW he really does suffer from insomnia just like I do since all this began.

Oh god I know! I seriously fear that my sleeping habits will never be normal again!

by neverlandsfairy Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:32 pm

The clues from JCC were all being checked as anagrams on MJHD. But they deleted the thread.

by Rach Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:35 pm

neverlandsfairy wrote:The clues from JCC were all being checked as anagrams on MJHD. But they deleted the thread.

That doesn't surprise me! I am working on my own theory of it and won't post on here until I have it all together Smile

by phoenix Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:15 pm

hm okay guys before i share a thought, which came to me today after reading this thread i have to say that i dont trust this JCC about things he "knows"....however

princess grace...i remember the day years ago - i was watching a documentation on her (which was pretty boring)- but- the interesting thing is that her mother is from germany (she was born in Castle Helmsdorf in Saxony) ..and there is also a River, which cross Saxony, the Elbe.. and there are a lot castles...i cant even describe how beautiful they are

If Germany is a key- so why not start looking to "the roots" of Grace and not how she died....

so this is just my opinion :-)

by Silence Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:24 pm

why Grace Kelly now ? Did I miss anything ?

Doing the show in vienna probably means that FALCO will be back on stage together with MJ ... so it would be a double-comeback from the dead

I hear "Vienna Calling" Idea

by CantStopLovingU Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:25 pm

CharlieBarley wrote:
Rachel wrote:I do think Michael knows about this site guys!

When I googled "Michael Jackson hoax death" last night this came up and we have had more people viewing the threads than there are members so people do know about us!

That's cool! I often see people on the forums say, "why would Michael come and read these forums? He has better things to do"

But I happened to be thinking about this last night. What would I do if I was in his shoes?

I would say I'd have to have a sneaky peek!

Of course he would read what we are saying! He wouldn't be able to resist, and I am sure he is proud of all of us, for everything that has been put together so far, along with all of the love and support we show him here and on the other forum.

Speaking of the other forum, I know this is off topic, but I am assuming that the admin of this site, is not the same admin of the other site. There was so much censorship going on over there, and even for the few people that tried to come forward with things they said they knew, they should have held onto them. The JCC anagram thread was very interesting.

But back on topic, I just dont see how MJ could resist reading these forums.

by Rach Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:27 pm

@ Cantstoplovingu - No it's not the same Admin, thank goodness!!!

by Silence Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:29 pm

CantStopLovingU wrote:

Of course he would read what we are saying! He wouldn't be able to resist, and I am sure he is proud of all of us, for everything that has been put together so far, along with all of the love and support we show him here and on the other forum.

Speaking of the other forum, I know this is off topic, but I am assuming that the admin of this site, is not the same admin of the other site. There was so much censorship going on over there, and even for the few people that tried to come forward with things they said they knew, they should have held onto them. The JCC anagram thread was very interesting.

But back on topic, I just dont see how MJ could resist reading these forums.

Please don't forget that this isn't the only MJ forum on the net.
There are at least two way bigger communities out there

http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/forum
and
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/ (including topics like this: http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72929 )

So MJ would be quite busy to read it all.

by the way: Reading those (definitely dedicated fan-) forums where noone is talking about a hoax helps you to see things from a different (and maybe more sane) perspective, that's why I go there from time to time

by Rach Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:59 pm

Ok Charlie, I have been thinking about 1st August clue and how everyone expected something major to happen ie: Michael's comeback.

Well it was reported on July 31st that Michael's toxicology results had been delayed indefintely, BUT all the major news sources picked this up the following day on August 1st. Could this be what JCC was referring to?

IDK maybe I am clutching at straws but apart from the MTV Michael day I can't find anything else of relevance to that date.

by ziffes Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:28 am

well im just thinking..
JCC had to know something. im thinking of all the clues.. witch he had given us.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-jackson-tribute-10aug10,0,3052915.story

look at this article.. think of some of the clues(witch he told a long time ago Shocked

).. how would he know unless he really is taking some part of it??

by Human_nature Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:45 am

Take a look here...if you want as well ... I posted something and may be interesting..idk hehe Wink

https://mjkit.forumotion.net/news-and-odd-things-f8/the-godfather-of-tabloid-t272.htm

by ziffes Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:49 am

btw. JCC profile has been deleted on the the official MJ site.

he's gone.. would like to know what happened to JCC.

by Guest Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:18 am

Silence wrote:why Grace Kelly now ? Did I miss anything ?

Doing the show in vienna probably means that FALCO will be back on stage together with MJ ... so it would be a double-comeback from the dead

I hear "Vienna Calling"

as long as they do Amadeus I'll be happy! hahah

by Silence Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:01 am

missdahmer wrote:
Silence wrote:why Grace Kelly now ? Did I miss anything ?

Doing the show in vienna probably means that FALCO will be back on stage together with MJ ... so it would be a double-comeback from the dead

I hear "Vienna Calling"

as long as they do Amadeus I'll be happy! hahah

and maybe a version of "The Komissar" cause we all are at the moment ;-)

by Guest Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:23 am

CharlieBarley wrote:
Rachel wrote:I do think Michael knows about this site guys!

When I googled "Michael Jackson hoax death" last night this came up and we have had more people viewing the threads than there are members so people do know about us!

That's cool! I often see people on the forums say, "why would Michael come and read these forums? He has better things to do"

But I happened to be thinking about this last night. What would I do if I was in his shoes?

I would say I'd have to have a sneaky peek!

Michael Babe, if you are watching this site. DONT GO ON "THE GOLD PANTS" THREAD.
Cause us girls, have a hard time controlling us selves when we are in there.

Sorry

by lovelidae Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:37 am

by ziffes Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:44 am

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
CharlieBarley wrote:
Rachel wrote:I do think Michael knows about this site guys!

When I googled "Michael Jackson hoax death" last night this came up and we have had more people viewing the threads than there are members so people do know about us!

That's cool! I often see people on the forums say, "why would Michael come and read these forums? He has better things to do"

But I happened to be thinking about this last night. What would I do if I was in his shoes?

I would say I'd have to have a sneaky peek!

Michael Babe, if you are watching this site. DONT GO ON "THE GOLD PANTS" THREAD.
Cause us girls, have a hard time controlling us selves when we are in there.

Sorry

oh maaann..
that treat would blow his mind... *OMG*
*LMAO* especially the pictures... lol!

by Silence Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:51 am

happy for ya ladies then ;-)

as a straight guy you always wonder what's it that makes women go "crazy" like that while we only judge his performance

by MJFOREVER Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:52 am

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
CharlieBarley wrote:
Rachel wrote:I do think Michael knows about this site guys!

When I googled "Michael Jackson hoax death" last night this came up and we have had more people viewing the threads than there are members so people do know about us!

That's cool! I often see people on the forums say, "why would Michael come and read these forums? He has better things to do"

But I happened to be thinking about this last night. What would I do if I was in his shoes?

I would say I'd have to have a sneaky peek!

Michael Babe, if you are watching this site. DONT GO ON "THE GOLD PANTS" THREAD.
Cause us girls, have a hard time controlling us selves when we are in there.

Sorry

hahahah

well we are just being girls Embarassed

by ziffes Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:11 am

Silence wrote:happy for ya ladies then ;-)

as a straight guy you always wonder what's it that makes women go "crazy" like that while we only judge his performance

well... you will have to go to the golden pants treat to know..

Embarassed

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:22 am

Wait? Silence is a guy?

I never knew!! I thought there were nothing but hot to trot females on here!!

by bec Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:14 am

ziffes wrote:
Silence wrote:happy for ya ladies then ;-)

as a straight guy you always wonder what's it that makes women go "crazy" like that while we only judge his performance

well... you will have to go to the golden pants treat to know..

Fruedian slip?!? Very Happy

by Ivonne Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:24 am

My English is not good. I understand not everything here was written. So, I do not understand everything to 100%

I had the old text of JCC saved. I have the 01 August wait ... Nothing is happening ....

"German Banquitting Hall August 1st 2009 Colour of flowersGermanyOodles of press
Really this is all I can say I have said too much already.From this you can work it out you just
have to research and put together a few other things on this site.Please understandthe
sensitive nature of this issue.People could go to prision can you see my
reason for being so secretive.Germany is key
I shall not be able to post very often as I will
be travelling out of the country.KeepfaithThe
Sweetest River In Germania
Hello everbody I have now landed at my set
destination.Things are progressing well and
everything is going according to plan.TrustMJ"

I have a question, why all the talk of the Rhine? Sweetest river in
Germany, the Rhine? Maybe someone can give me so declare that I
understand it.

When I think of something sweet in connection with a river, then it would be the Danube.

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:27 am

The BLue Danube....ahhhhh..........Strauss maybe?

by Ivonne Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:35 am

When I think of something sweet in connection with a river, then it would be the Danube.

No, not because of the music.

Much easier. River + Sweet ....

Here we have a cake "Danube Wave /Donauwelle" is called and it is very very sweet. Very Happy

That reminds me of the Danube.

by phoenix Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:50 am

Ivonne wrote:When I think of something sweet in connection with a river, then it would be the Danube.

No, not because of the music.

Much easier. River + Sweet ....

Here we have a cake "Danube Wave /Donauwelle" is called and it is very very sweet.

That reminds me of the Danube.

really good thought Ivonne- i love Donauwelle anyways.....but to me, when i think about river in germany its always Elbe...kinda odd i know lol

by shirley-grace Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:51 am

Ivonne wrote:My English is not good. I understand not everything here was written. So, I do not understand everything to 100%

I had the old text of JCC saved. I have the 01 August wait ... Nothing is happening ....

"German Banquitting Hall August 1st 2009 Colour of flowersGermanyOodles of press
Really this is all I can say I have said too much already.From this you can work it out you just
have to research and put together a few other things on this site.Please understandthe
sensitive nature of this issue.People could go to prision can you see my
reason for being so secretive.Germany is key
I shall not be able to post very often as I will
be travelling out of the country.KeepfaithThe
Sweetest River In Germania
Hello everbody I have now landed at my set
destination.Things are progressing well and
everything is going according to plan.TrustMJ"

I have a question, why all the talk of the Rhine? Sweetest river in
Germany, the Rhine? Maybe someone can give me so declare that I
understand it.

When I think of something sweet in connection with a river, then it would be the Danube.

The Danube in germany we say Donau is flowing right thru Vienna!

by Ivonne Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:59 am

If I had to think about rivers in Germany
Covered me many names.

But it is a river in conjunction with something sweet ...

Sweet = Rhein no
Sweet = Elbe No
Sweet = Volme No
Sweet = Lenne No
Sweet = Oder No
Sweet = Mosel No
Sweet = Ruhr No
etc.

True, the Danube flows into Austria / Vienna. Austria / Vienna Zacher Torte, very very sweet. Laughing

by CharlieBarley Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:15 am

Guys!! I really feel I have cracked the first part of JCC's message. Been doing more research and it is really strange............Unfortunately one of the threads was deleted the other day, due to people being nasty towards each other, which is a shame, I know it sounds far fetched but I think the guy(Knocki06) that claimed to have seen MJ in Kallausten may have been telling the truth. Here is my reasons, why please read:

Jcc's Message:

“Germany is key”
-“The Sweetest River in Germania”
-"I'll still be here on “1st August 2009″
-“German Banquitting Hall”

The River Rhine is the the major River that runs through the region of Germania. Germania is a region in Germany.

One of the Rivers that runs off the RIVER RHINE is the MOSEL RIVER which is also known as the "SWEETEST RIVER" As there are Vine Yards and wine is apparently produced in the area of the MOSEL RIVER. But apparently the river is known as the "SWEET RIVER"

Please see the map Areas I have circled cause it gets better.
JCC, I am getting somewhere - Page 2 Germanymap

JCC, I am getting somewhere - Page 2 Germanymap

The circle on the right is a place called BRAUBACH and there is the MARKSBERG CASTLE there is a circuit running throught the castle grounds and on the circuit is the "The Great Banquetting Hall. Please see link the room is towards the bottom of the page.

http://www.marksburg.de/english/rundgang1.htm

Then 2 days ago a person called Knocki06 put a thread up claiming to have seen Michael in a place called KASTELLAUN and look at the circle at the bottom. It's KASTELLAUN!!! Shocked

by CharlieBarley Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:23 am

Ivonne wrote:If I had to think about rivers in Germany
Covered me many names.

But it is a river in conjunction with something sweet ...

Sweet = Rhein no
Sweet = Elbe No
Sweet = Volme No
Sweet = Lenne No
Sweet = Oder No
Sweet = Mosel No
Sweet = Ruhr No
etc.

True, the Danube flows into Austria / Vienna. Austria / Vienna Zacher Torte, very very sweet.

Mosel is the The Sweetest River it is known as the sweet river it is where the wine is produced.

by jpresley Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:45 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Jpresley....do you think MJ even knows about this new site?

Im sure he knew of MJHD

Well, it is certainly possible that if he was reading MJHD he could have stumbled upon our gold pants thread and Souza's creation of THIS site, right? I mean, if we're going with the theory that he is alive and aware of what we are doing, then that's not such a far leap is it? (giggling at him seeing all of his gold plant clad images gyrating and our comments - dude is probably mortified! Embarassed

). Anyway, beyond that he could have simply done a google search and found us here too. The possibilities are endless! tongue

by Another.Part.Of.Me Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:50 pm

Has anyone explored the Danube River, and specifically the Wein river which runs through Vienna, coincidentally right by the Schonnbrunn Palace which is the location of the Vienna Concert.
The Wein river is fed by mountain streams, springs from the Vienna woodland and rainwater. When I heard the 'sweetest river' I instantly thought of freshwater as opposed to saltwater.

by Reflection Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:30 am

CharlieBarley wrote:Hi Rachel this is what I have so far with JCC:
JCC:
-"I'll still be here on “1st August 2009″
Where? In Germania?

I posted the following comment on MJHD but for the benefit of the mjkit forum members I am also going to post it here.

PLEASE READ:

Actually, the “I'll still be here” part came from me, Reflection. I was
having some fun with the “clues” and made a poem out of them. Joke
calms China only said “August 1st 2009″. I have seen this phrase around
many a time and I wanted to clear this up. Regarding Joke calms China,
I would like to say that his “clues” did not lead anywhere conclusive;
at least not anywhere that one could see. A riddle would let you go
from a defined point, say point A to an end point, say point Z.
However - in my opinion -, Joke calms China's “clues” were leading people in circles.

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/hoax-death/michael-jackson-tribute-concert-announced-joke-calms-china-links/#p50158

Despite that fact, it's interesting to read what you guys have come up with. Smile

Trust me, I would be the FIRST person who would rejoice if MJ was actually in Germany...

by IWSICS Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:30 am

when JCC said.. ''I'll still be where on August 1st'' Maybe that had something to do with the fact that NOTHING was said about MJ that day. No news at all was posted since his death.
Maybe he is reassuring us that MJ is still here even though we heard nothing about him that day?
Just a thought Smile

by silvy Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:46 am

About the river.. Sauer ( or river Sure)..Is that possible?

by Another.Part.Of.Me Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:07 pm

silvy wrote:About the river.. Sauer ( or river Sure)..Is that possible?

Where is that river silvy? Do you have more information on it? I'm not dismissing anything related to JCC because you never know where something might be related to the clues.

by Guest Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:14 pm

MJFOREVER wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:
CharlieBarley wrote:
Rachel wrote:I do think Michael knows about this site guys!

When I googled "Michael Jackson hoax death" last night this came up and we have had more people viewing the threads than there are members so people do know about us!

That's cool! I often see people on the forums say, "why would Michael come and read these forums? He has better things to do"

But I happened to be thinking about this last night. What would I do if I was in his shoes?

I would say I'd have to have a sneaky peek!

Michael Babe, if you are watching this site. DONT GO ON "THE GOLD PANTS" THREAD.
Cause us girls, have a hard time controlling us selves when we are in there.

Sorry

hahahah well we are just being girls

Dont worry guys.
Im sure Michael would be charmed

by Speechless Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:26 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me : I found 2 rivers called sauer (sure) in Germany.

One rises in Luxemburg into the Mosel in the Rhineland-Palatinate (I think

this region has already been mentioned here, on a map)

The other one rises near the french-german boundary into the Rhine through

the Rhine-Pfalz region (state)

I know there´s also a region called Sauerland, but it´s located in another

german state - Northrhine-Westfallen (don´t know if it´s correct in english)

But I also googled sweet rhine and found Rhine Street Red Wine - Sweet

American: it´s a sweet rhine wine, so I don´t know what to say...

I always thought it should be the Rhine because it´s really sweet: 50 castles

between Bonn and Frankfurt, an island in the middle of it with a castle, you

can only reach by boat, the roman vinyards, the banqueting hall... but now

I´m only confused.

by Another.Part.Of.Me Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:53 pm

Speechless wrote:Another.Part.Of.Me : I found 2 rivers called sauer (sure) in Germany.

One rises in Luxemburg into the Mosel in the Rhineland-Palatinate (I think

this region has already been mentioned here, on a map)

The other one rises near the french-german boundary into the Rhine through

the Rhine-Pfalz region (state)

I know there´s also a region called Sauerland, but it´s located in another

german state - Northrhine-Westfallen (don´t know if it´s correct in english)

But I also googled sweet rhine and found Rhine Street Red Wine - Sweet

American: it´s a sweet rhine wine, so I don´t know what to say...

I always thought it should be the Rhine because it´s really sweet: 50 castles

between Bonn and Frankfurt, an island in the middle of it with a castle, you

can only reach by boat, the roman vinyards, the banqueting hall... but now

I´m only confused.

Hey Speechless, thanks for that Very Happy

I appreciate it.
So this would point more towards the Mosel River and the sweet wine connection. The Mosel wine region is famous for it's sweet tasting wine after all.
I know the castle you mean although I'm unsure about it because that castle turned out to be a museum where tourists and visitors can wander around inside following tours of the place. Pictures of that famous banquetting hall have been posted on here but according to a member who lives there and has visited the castle and toured it, it cannot be rented or leased out for people to stay in.

Germany does have many other castles, including a particular castle that Michael was rumoured to want to purchase a few years bakc although that is not fact so I don't know how true that is. I've googled it but it looks like it could be rumour or one of those press stories.

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