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Post by amber on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:33 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIBILGoy79c 6.58 does he sound familier in background???? then 7.19 the kids saying dad???
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:39 pm

It sounds like Michael!
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Post by 2000 Watts on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:45 pm

I heard Amelia not Michael at7:58 but I did hear a boy say Dad at 6:19. Who said Dad? Were there other kids there?Hmmm.
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Post by amber on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:48 pm

He says 'amelia, really gosh' ..... its the voice talking it sounds like him...
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:52 pm

That's what I heard too...
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Post by See on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:54 pm

I dont think that many people would be involved in a hoax of this importance!
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Post by annieisnotokey on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:56 pm

See wrote:I dont think that many people would be involved in a hoax of this importance!

I agree.
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Post by amber on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:58 pm

my thoghts have rapidly swung on this do you think its at all poss that the photographer on this actual camera had a live feed [obviously yes it was live] to wherever michael was at that point and its picked him up talking?? you no the whole behind the scenes theory?? that sounds like michael its the first time i got that real its him feeling in ages...remember family was late kids arrived later..the people being filmed didnt no they were being filmed by him of course.he sounds suprised by who is there
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:04 pm

I played it for my daughter and she thought she heard him too. I'm not saying all those people were in on the hoax, obviously some weren't, but it is possible that his voice was accidentally picked up. Then again I'm not the resident expert so who knows lol
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Post by mjssoulmate on Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:45 pm

He says Amelia, but it wasn't Michael. I don't hear anyone saying Dad, rather it's part of a "laugh".

One question though, at 7:25 - 7:36 we see Marsha Clark sitting to the right of some guy, and to the left of him I see her again? Does she have a twin? That other woman looks just like her, just a little sterner.


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Post by juliet on Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:13 pm

Okay, guys, this is I think quite important. On the YT vid link, go to the 5:18 part where I hear 2 women talking. I really don't know the names of the people, so I just couldn't point out what part - but just close your eyes, don't look at the video, use the audio only, Okay?

So here is what I heard:
"Yeah, they have seen the corpse ... or somethin' "
"Somebody says it looked like him"
"Oh really?" "But they were plastics"

Thanks AMBER for calling my attention to this. How stupid of me to ignore this vid. And from the conversations of the guests, you can fit some pieces together.
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Post by juliet on Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:43 pm

Then I went further down and I heard this. My previous post is of 2 Ladies' voices. This one is of Men's voices. Go to 7:13 of the vid. Close your eyes and listen only to the audio (much better if you use earphones).

So here is what I heard:
"Where are the rest of us?"
".........the biggest stunt"
".............for charity"
then the sound of a cough and clearing of throat.
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:57 pm

I definately heard a kid say Uh Dad! THEN the same kid laughed.
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Post by juliet on Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:22 pm

To continue, I went further down to 7:30 - Men's voices.

So here's what I heard:
..cough
"...yeah, anything that will stop the King of the Pop doing concerts"
"...everything is ...." (for me the next word I heard is scripted )

I'll check some more later and I'll appreciate it if you guys would listen to these things also so I'll know if I heard the right things or not.
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Post by juliet on Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:47 pm

I continued down to 7:54 - Men's voices.

So here's what I heard:
"Look at ??(this part I can't get).. mother"
"Napkins"
"Looks like somebody's seen somebody's fakin' it"
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Post by labkomj7 on Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:52 pm

juliet wrote:Okay, guys, this is I think quite important. On the YT vid link, go to the 5:18 part where I hear 2 women talking. I really don't know the names of the people, so I just couldn't point out what part - but just close your eyes, don't look at the video, use the audio only, Okay?

So here is what I heard:
"Yeah, they have seen the corpse ... or somethin' "
"Somebody says it looked like him"
"Oh really?" "But they were plastics"

Thanks AMBER for calling my attention to this. How stupid of me to ignore this vid. And from the conversations of the guests, you can fit some pieces together.
OMG, I think i heard this..
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Post by annieisnotokey on Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:00 pm

Can you really hear all that??
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Post by Sweet1 on Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:49 pm

I agree also. I just can't seem to get over the mood of the funeral. It was as if everyone was waiting for a performance of some kind. Not one teary eye in the entire place. Keep the Faith!

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See wrote:I dont think that many people would be involved in a hoax of this importance!

I agree.
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Post by juliet on Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:54 pm

I thought of doing the same thing with the other vids, so I'm doing it on this one first. Try it, ANNIE, don't look at the video feed, listen to what the guests have to say. Close your eyes and use an earphone. You can hear so many conversations and focus on a certain conversation between two people. Use the volume control of the computer and on whatever part you want, just rewind or forward the vid and you will get what they are saying.

Go now and try it and tell me if I'm right or wrong, OKAY?
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Post by annieisnotokey on Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:10 pm

juliet wrote:I thought of doing the same thing with the other vids, so I'm doing it on this one first. Try it, ANNIE, don't look at the video feed, listen to what the guests have to say. Close your eyes and use an earphone. You can hear so many conversations and focus on a certain conversation between two people. Use the volume control of the computer and on whatever part you want, just rewind or forward the vid and you will get what they are saying.
Go now and try it and tell me if I'm right or wrong, OKAY?

I'll try, I swear!
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Post by juliet on Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:40 pm

Then I rewinded the vid to 1:33
So here's what I heard:
An elderly woman's voice: "Yes, that's him!"
A child's(girl) voice: "I need to ......"

Then I think (IMO) one of the male escorts must have approached the child and I clearly heard the man say on 1:41 "Hi.........." "He's out there somewhere, the first 4 rows....."
A Child answers : "He's out there?"
A young woman's voice : "White old man on the side" (or maybe "Quite old man on the side")

I think that the child is Paris because there is no other girl around. I think she wanted to relay something to him from Blanket because I heard the name of Blanket mentioned but it was all messed up with different noises.

I just wish I have all those hi-tech equipments cause I'm just using an earphone and the volume control of my computer. Maybe someone out there can avail of a studio where they check out the sounds/voices in the videos.
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Post by HeavyHearts on Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:35 pm

Wow if Michael really is gone these people are heartless!

I think their moods and body language is our biggest clue
They don't even look like they are at a funeral!! scratch

I have a feeling da troot will come out real soon
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Post by Butterfly J on Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:25 am

I´m so exited. I listened it with earphone and everithing sounds almost like Juliet says. But I don´t hear Michaels voice. I´m sure it´s not his voice. He doesn´t talk to anyone so loud. And that lady, hearing the Hatman talking to the phone, looks so confused and she looks back and says: Michael!? URGENT! I think i found something.. Icon_lol
Actually, I never understood why everybody says "old man", first I saw that Hatman I thought that he looks so young but those gray hair... that doesn´t fit to that young smooth skin.
And... no gray beard at the burial? Ok, he shaved...or removed it URGENT! I think i found something.. Icon_lol Look 6:14 how beautiful and young he is.
The Hatman at the memorial and at this at the funeral looks different, maybe just because of beard. Look yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LgchbNZsTM&feature=related


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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:59 am

I don't hear anything
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:12 am

I don't either. Laughing
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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:21 am

"Amelia?! Oh my gosh.." -thats what i hear and it's not Mike.

And i just wanna say that i can hear many weird things, but dont wanna mess up Very Happy


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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:30 am

juliet wrote:Okay, guys, this is I think quite important. On the YT vid link, go to the 5:18 part where I hear 2 women talking. I really don't know the names of the people, so I just couldn't point out what part - but just close your eyes, don't look at the video, use the audio only, Okay?

So here is what I heard:
"Yeah, they have seen the corpse ... or somethin' "
"Somebody says it looked like (him)-i really don't think she said-"him"-well, im not a native speaker, but it was smth like-"at all", "corpse"-can't decide lol
"Oh really?" "But they were plastics"

Thanks AMBER for calling my attention to this. How stupid of me to ignore this vid. And from the conversations of the guests, you can fit some pieces together.
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Post by juliet on Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:09 am

I think the Hatman in the memorial is the real Hatman (don't forget the cane); and in the funeral - sure SOMEBODY really disguised himself as the Hatman(IMO)

Guys, I may be right or may be wrong that's why you should try it yourself to find out. Don't look at the video feed when you're playing the vid, just listen to the audio (much better with an earphone). If you're listening to a conversation, rewind the vid few seconds back and play it again and again until you get to memorize what are the next coming words (just like learning a song of a different language)
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Post by amber on Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:59 am

Thanks for your thoughts on this guys ok it maybe wasnt mj speaking but at least it seems to of highlighted other odd things being said in back ground.. URGENT! I think i found something.. Icon_study
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Post by AugustMoon on Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:27 am

AGREED this is pretty good news,to pick up conversations like i think we are being scammed is pretty big news for belivers!
the hat mann at the memorial is nO WAY this hat man,this guy is trying to act as normal as possible by on his phone at a funeral??????trying not to make a lot of eye or human contact
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Post by AugustMoon on Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:31 am

could hatman of been sending messages to his kids sata few rows in front but disguising it by talking on phone?
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:56 am

Well, I thought the kids arrive at night? In that video that is obviously daylight. Don't mean to be rude. This is what MJSmile4Us and me realise. URGENT! I think i found something.. Icon_smile
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:30 am

What if the kids were out of sight and were conveniently shown arriving later? I mean really, it's obvious this thing was staged so why is it impossible to think the family arriving was as well? Again, it's a sensitive day, don't bash me lol.
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Post by See on Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:14 am

I can't read lips but why would they even talk about a hoax on live tv...LOL wait it was not live!!!

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:Well, I thought the kids arrive at night? In that video that is obviously daylight. Don't mean to be rude. This is what MJSmile4Us and me realise. URGENT! I think i found something.. Icon_smile

OMG how cute is your sign (sorry off topic but just had to say something LOL)...were was that??? I wanne see the whole think send me a link please!!!!
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Post by stardust on Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:33 pm

Anyone know the identity of the blonde woman? sat next to Elizabeth Taylor? I havent seen their face throughout this video
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:12 pm

I heard things, but I don't know what exactly so far..I guess I'll need to listen again.

but at 6:16 to 6:30 ...this woman, I think she told "Michael" like they wrote in the video....

Weird anyway...all the "burial" was weird so.......... URGENT! I think i found something.. Icon_scratch
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Post by mjssoulmate on Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:24 pm

The blonde next to Elizabeth Taylor was LMP.
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Post by icy55 on Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:32 pm

i just heard lots of buzzing that's all.. OMG! I WISH MJ IS ALIVE!!!!
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:49 pm

mjssoulmate wrote:The blonde next to Elizabeth Taylor was LMP.

No sorry, it's not Lisa Marie.

She was here with her daughter (Lisa Marie with brown hair, her daughter blond hair)

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Post by mjssoulmate on Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:13 pm

Can you really hear all that??
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I totally agree Annie. I've listened to it several times with headphones on, but I guess my imagination is not high enough to allow me to hear what everyone else hears.
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Post by mjssoulmate on Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:47 pm

The helicopter video shows one oddity for sure though.
The bus(RV) is right behind the place where the casket is later staged. In the "live thread" there is a building right behind where the casket is.

Definitely two different events,or same event in two different locations at two different times.


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Post by annieisnotokey on Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:59 pm

mjssoulmate wrote:I totally agree Annie. I've listened to it several times with headphones on, but I guess my imagination is not high enough to allow me to hear what everyone else hears.

Good to know I'm not alone!

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Post by GirlSaturday on Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:36 pm

I need:
1) a hearing aide
or
2) to learn what type of hi-tech audio equipment you guys possess

Since I could not hear a darn thing, I'll move along.

One last thing... i couldn't help but stare again at the odd gathering of that crowd. So many random people were assembled. A man of MJ's fame and magnitude should have drawn a much different crowd if this burial were genuine. Think of any lesser known celebrity and you would have even seen more of their industry peers. This hodge podge crowd could have been brought in from a wedding taking place down the street or from central casting.
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Post by juliet on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:10 pm

Okay guys, I don't know how I'm getting all the other people's conversation in this vid.
I just wish you could hear the different consversations,too.

Maybe, I thought of it as listening to something(erasing from my mind for a while that it is a funeral video). Then, if there is a conversation going on, I rewind the video just few seconds and play it back, then rewind and play it a little further more and I do it again until I hear the whole conversation of two people.
The earphones that I use is that type that has a volume adjuster on the middle of the earphone cord line. So I put up the volume on my earphone and adjust the volume of my laptop.

And when I listen, I write down one word at a time of what I hear(that's when I rewind the video a bit) then play it again to get the next words, then write the next words down. Then with what you've written down you'll be able to see that there actually was a conversation.

I hope that helps.
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Post by juliet on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:26 pm

Anyway, I feel so frustrated because you guys can't hear anything.

As I said, I may be wrong or I may be right and if I'm adding to the confusion, I'm so sorry.
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Post by annieisnotokey on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:35 pm

GirlSaturday wrote:One last thing... i couldn't help but stare again at the odd gathering of that crowd. So many random people were assembled. A man of MJ's fame and magnitude should have drawn a much different crowd if this burial were genuine. Think of any lesser known celebrity and you would have even seen more of their industry peers. This hodge podge crowd could have been brought in from a wedding taking place down the street or from central casting.

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Post by speechlessornot on Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:52 pm

Oh, my God!!!! I think I am definitely deaf !!!!!!!!!!!!! I could hear parts of the dialogue, but ....you are amazing ! URGENT! I think i found something.. Icon_eek
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Post by Butterfly J on Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:10 am

Juliet, don´t worry, I hear almost the same things.
"Dad" - there´s a lot of dads, so that could be not Paris who said that.
We must be careful, ´coze as you can see no one seems to be sad. When I see this vid I think they don´t know that they are at funeral, they seem to not care, so they can talk about anything but Michael. IF they are acting, then I think they are bad actors, why show people happy and careful faces? My god, they seem to be at wedding, really.
I see only few sad faces - Tatjana (from Liberian Girl vid, seem to be unhappy).
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Post by Guest on Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:06 am

Butterfly J wrote:Juliet, don´t worry, I hear almost the same things.
"Dad" - there´s a lot of dads, so that could be not Paris who said that.
We must be careful, ´coze as you can see no one seems to be sad. When I see this vid I think they don´t know that they are at funeral, they seem to not care, so they can talk about anything but Michael. IF they are acting, then I think they are bad actors, why show people happy and careful faces? My god, they seem to be at wedding, really.
I see only few sad faces - Tatjana (from Liberian Girl vid, seem to be unhappy).
Sorry, I don´t wanna bring you down - today is my bad day I quess URGENT! I think i found something.. Icon_sad I feel that everything is too hudge and too complicated, so sometimes I loose my hope URGENT! I think i found something.. Icon_sad


Okey, don't loose hope, Michael is alright.

I see your point with the children, only problem is that there was only 4 children, Prince, Paris and Blanket. And LMP's daugther. She didn't have her daddy with her.

So who is the children saying "daddy"??
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:32 am

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Butterfly J wrote:Juliet, don´t worry, I hear almost the same things.
"Dad" - there´s a lot of dads, so that could be not Paris who said that.
We must be careful, ´coze as you can see no one seems to be sad. When I see this vid I think they don´t know that they are at funeral, they seem to not care, so they can talk about anything but Michael. IF they are acting, then I think they are bad actors, why show people happy and careful faces? My god, they seem to be at wedding, really.
I see only few sad faces - Tatjana (from Liberian Girl vid, seem to be unhappy).
Sorry, I don´t wanna bring you down - today is my bad day I quess URGENT! I think i found something.. Icon_sad I feel that everything is too hudge and too complicated, so sometimes I loose my hope URGENT! I think i found something.. Icon_sad


Okey, don't loose hope, Michael is alright.

I see your point with the children, only problem is that there was only 4 children, Prince, Paris and Blanket. And LMP's daugther. She didn't have her daddy with her.

So who is the children saying "daddy"??

Lisa Marie daughter , she's 20 yrs old now..so she's no longer a kid Wink
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