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From THIS IS NOT IT Facebook Update - FAN TESTIMONIES
by CantStopLovingU Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:33 am
I just saw this posted on Facebook.
Some people asked us where we got some of our information. This is one testimony among many, just to prove you we have first hand evidence. Be warned, this will be difficult to read if you hear this for the first time.
Michael could have been helped somehow, even if Murray was the hand that killed him, you have to wonder why Michael Jackson felt the need to take propofol at night, why all these people who worked with him and saw him in an altered state did not realize this could kill him, one way or another. If people like Marika who had such lesser access to him than everyone else, including the promoters, the managers, the crew, if she could see so much as to be worried that he could die, how is it possible THEY did not see it?
It's all about asking the right questions.
MARIKA'S TESTIMONY
"What I witnessed in June"
Hello everyone,
I know some of you won't like what I have to say, but I need to tell my experience so you can all understand.
Some of you may have heard about an email I sent on June 21st. It has ben posted on forums without my consent, and people trashed me, saying I was a liar, was looking for fame (??) and more...
This is why I sent it:
I, with, two other friends, met MJ in his car on March 19th.
We talked about AEG, how he was furious with them, wanting to make money, selling tickets vio Viagogo. He said "I hate to hear stories like that!"
Me and my friend saw a very frail Michael. He had large orange pants. But as he was in the back seat and us, sitting in the front seat, he had his legs between ours. We could see what his leg was really looking like.
He was so skinny.
Michael couldn't stop apologizing for the way he looked: "I'm sorry you have to see me like that, Im so sorry!" He was hiding his face in his hands when saying this.
Anyway, we were a little bit concerned, but thought: Ok, he has 3 months until the shows in London, so he may be working with someone...
3 months later, me and my friend went back to Carolwood, and we witnessed Michael being under influences. But what was weird, is that it was AFTER rehearsals, and not only after Dr Klein's visit. So whatever they were giving to him, he was given (or took himself) at the rehearsals.
That night, Michael had memory loss. He was completly high, as if he was talking in his sleep.
If WE SAW that, don't tell me people around him, talking to him 10 hours a day couldn't see it.
Few days later, Michael invited me and my friend on the set of the Dome project. My friend had made a jacket for him.
He was wearing a Red Balamin jacket, you can see it in the trailer.
My friend gave him her jacket and Michael took it to try it.
He took off his own jacket.
he was wearing white tight pants and a white tight shirt.
For the first time, we realized how much weight he did loose.
I couldnt have wear his jacket.
He really was skinny. And NOT THIN.
The jacket was of course too big for him.
But he was happy and said: Oh how do you know my size?!
Well... take a woman size and it fits.
He kept it. You saw a picture of him wearing it. Dated June 11th.
Of course, you can't really tell by the picture.. But he could close this jacket behind his back literally.
this is why me and my friend sent this email on June 21st. To share our concerns on his health.
I am not saying Michael was dying from a disease.
I am not saying Michael was killed
I am not saying I Know the Truth
I am just saying that WE, fans, felt that MJ could be in danger.
I am just saying that WE, fans, saw how much weight Michael lost.
I am just saying that WE, fans, could see he was under influences.
I am just saying that MICHAEL told the fans he was under a lot of pressure, couldn't eat or sleep.
I am now just asking why they, MJ's ENTOURAGE, keep saying that Michael was in great shape, when anyone else, not working for him, could see he was not?
I am just asking why, just today (2 days after this page is online), A PRESS RELEASE leaked Michael's autopsy saying his weight was 136lbs (even if this is not a lot), with the title "Michael Jackson was healthy" linking everywhere suddenly.
the autopsy reports were not supposed to come out before the end of the investigation.
Someone is getting scared?
I am not saying Michael was killed
I am not saying Michael was sick.
I am just saying to some people:
STOP LYING TO US
STOP TAKING US FOR FOOLS
We saw in what shape Michael was
He told us he was NOT feeling good.
Stop lying.
We already lost him.
Have the guts to admitt the truth and say:
Yes, maybe Michael needed help we didnt provide him.
We should have put more breaks between the shows, just to make him feel less nervous.
We are not saying those people killed him.
But by listening to someone's problem and anxiety, they could have make him feel more relax, he could have eat, sleep better and wouldnt have asked for Propofol.
Therefore, he would still be here.
Thank you.
MJ with my friend jacket
The dome Project / Culver Studio
June 11th 2009
This is the email I sentto MJ fans and Michael's entourage if you wanna read it:
Marika Prochet 21 juin, à 15:21
Dear closest MJ fans,
This is an important message. Some of you are going to hate it. Others will start thinking.
As you may know, few days ago, me and Moon got the luck to be invited on the set of Michael's shooting.
Michael was wearing white pants. Real tights. And a white shirt. Real tight.
As you all know, Michael has been really skinny since the trial. We all talk together and we always say: he is scary skinny.
some of us told him he should eat.
But what Moon and I saw last week horrifed us. He is not scary skinny. He is a skeleton. I saw his back, and wanted to throw up. I never felt a shock like this. And I already knew he was skinny. But this clothes... it was as if he was naked. I was ashamed.
I got out of the set. And what did I told the fans?
"Oh god he is so skinny!" And then, what did I say?
"Oh it was great! yeahhh! I saw Michael on the set! yeah!!!"
I had the same reaction I had since the trial. He is now more than skinny. He is a skeleton. But I can do nothing so let's talk about something else! About how happy I was to meet him.
But to be honnest, I, since this day, feel weird. Like a guilty sensation.
I feel that I witnessed reality. For once, he didnt had a coat on, a big shirt, big trousers. For once, I saw the reality of his situation.
I feel like I already knew but didnt want to accept it.
Honestly, I think I was like everyone of you. We are worried for 5 minutes but then, the only thing we can think about is: I want to see Michael, I want to get a hug, I want to say I love you... I think about myself and my happiness.
But I started to wonder: Michael rehearse everyday, he is surronded by 200 people, that work with him everyday. But who are those people?
Dancers that are living their dream, Kenny Ortega who is producing his best show ever, technicians, Michael security, Michael Bush.. and KAren Faye.
No family, no friends, no one.
Karen is the only one to have love for Michael. So I mailed her. I wanted to know if people were blind or doing nothing?
Here is her answer:
Hi Marika,
I know.
I am doing everything humanly possible...your heart and mine are in the same place.
Please keep this private for his sake.
Love,
Karen
Shanti, Shanti, Shanti
When I read that, I realized I was right.
She is doing something. But what can she do?
As we all know, Michael listen to no one. He does whatever he wants.
And if you know a litlle bit about anorexy, you know that if you tell them to eat, it's completly useless.
So Karen may tell him to eat. He won't.
People in his situation need a shock to start doing something.
So here is my question to all of you:
We all love Michael really much. We all want to see his shows. We all think about how we will be first row. About how we will get more tickets.
About how we will meet him more than the others fans. About getting a picture with him. About not hurting him.
How will you do all of these things if during the third concert he faints on stage, and if his heart stops during his way to the hospital?
How will you feel when you will talk with others fans and will say: We knew he was too skinny to perform 50 shows. We knew he stopped eating during the trial and reheare 10 hours per day for us.
How will you feel when you will say: people said he was doing fine but they lied. We saw he was a skeleton.
Will you feel guilty? Will you be able to sleep at night thinking you knew it and did nothing?
Some of you are going to say:
"He has doctors with him"
"They wouldnt let him dance if he was not healthy"
"I don't want to do something, it would hurt him"
Well let me tell you this:
If he had doctors with him, he would have gained weight.
No one saw Lou Ferrigno somewhere around rehearsals or Michael's house.
On the set, I watched people around Michael. Everyone was avoiding Michael, looking somewhere else. They were all working on their video.
Too many money involved. You dont want to be fired because you told Michael Jackson to eat.
You all know Michael's employees will never take the risk to lose their job. They dont love Michael this much.
And for those who have been to Carolwood, you all know that Michael is completly alone there.
If you get this email, it means you are part of the MJ's fans who know that Michael is not Peter Pan, Michael is not 100% perfect, and that at this day, we are the only ones left who love Michael enough to try to make a difference.
We all saw Michael at his worst, and we all see him still alive.
But just think 5 minutes that this skeleton that Michael has become is going to perform 2 hours every night during 3 months.
Will you be able to do it?
Models die at 18 from anorexia because their heart stop. And they just walk on a catwalk.
Michael is 51. He dances 10 hours per day. And is going to dance 2 hours every night during 3 months.
Do you think he will be ok?
Now that you know, are you going to do something or are you going to fight with other fans to get the best meeting with him?
Please, let's think about the best solution to help him realize. He needs to be shocked by us. We need to make him react.
And unfortunalty, we may have to hurt his feelings somehow.
But if he stays alive, isnt it worth it?
Marika
SANDY's TESTIMONY
Dear fans and friends, and those who deserve the truth…
I have decided to share some letters that I wrote prior to Michael’s death, and the last letter that I wrote to Michael that was given to him just before rehearsal the night before he passed. I choose to do this in support of the This Is Not It campaign, and because I believe Michael would have wanted us to speak his truth now that he is gone, in the same way he always asked us to do through all this years against the allegations, Mottolla-Sony, etc.
This is of course very sad and difficult and not something I ever expected to share so publicly, but now that Michael has passed I feel it is more important to inform and support the TRUTH against the blatant lies and attempted cover-up by those around Michael in his last months. I also feel the need to defend against those that are saying the “followers” are only speaking out after the fact now that Michael is gone. This is not true and we tried our best as far as we were capable “only” being fans. Everything that we are claiming and speaking is truth, and is based on words from MICHAEL HIMSELF, what we ACTUALLY WITNESSED in the months before he passed, along with what we also witnessed about Michael’s “friends” and “doctors” over the past two decades of “following” Michael.
First, an email that I wrote on June 21st, four days before Michael passed. I sent this email to Karen Faye (Michael’s makeup artist) and Michael Bush (Michael’s tailor) who I knew to be around Michael almost daily in the weeks prior to his death and the only members of his entourage I considered trustworthy and true friends to Michael. I had met Michael, spoken with him, and witnessed his condition over 2 weeks time in Los Angeles at the end of May and beginning of June. I left Los Angeles with an uneasy feeling, particularly about Michael’s obvious weight loss.
<BLOCKQUOTE>Subject Line: Please look after Michael-INTERVENE PLEASE-something is wrong, I saw it.
Karen, Michael...
There is something that has been worrying me for several months now. I think there is something wrong with Michael and his health or his self-image about his weight and I am really worried.
I have been afraid to say anything to anyone because it's probably not really my place to talk about something so personal concerning Michael, and talking about it amongst fans can make you an outcast because it is regarded as criticising Michael. But I want to know if he is alright. I also want to know if he is not alright that someone is intervening and doing something about it. There are always new people around Michael and as has always been obvious they do not always have his best interest at heart because of their own interests, but I expect that you really care about Michael in a way that you would perhaps cross a line that others might not if you saw that he is somehow hurting himself.
It is painfully obvious that Michael is TOO THIN. I know that Michael's weight fluctuates, and he is often mostly too thin anyways, but NOW he is REALLY TOO THIN. I first noticed back in October that his weight was really plummeting. I spent a couple hours with Michael in his Bel Air suite at Halloween, and it really struck me how thin he was even back then. When we hugged I felt there was literally nothing to him. I told him to please take care of himself and stay healthy and that he looked good-I was trying to make a point that he doesn't need to lose more, that he looks good already, to stop now. Naturally this embarassed him and he mostly just smiled and said thank you without knowing what to say. I also wrote him a letter about it, which he read but only replied again saying thank you.
Michael told me back then that he was preparing a tour and so I thought perhaps it is normal for him to slim down in preparation. I expected that he would become very weight-conscious. But now it seems he has gone TOO FAR. I met him inside the dance rehearsal studio a couple weeks ago and I was honestly SHOCKED. I noticed how the bones of his shoulders were LITERALLY protruding, poking through the material of his black fitted top. He was SCARY SKINNY. When we hugged I felt his skeleton. I felt very worried and very sad for him.
He was also looking very down and stressed and his demeanor and voice were very frail. HE ACTUALLY SAID he was stressed and worried how he will be able to do all 50 shows, that he does not eat enough, and he does not have enough breaks between shows. Clearly the situation is too much for him, it is making him SICK...whether it is self-imposed because he is not eating or something else.
DOES NO ONE ELSE AROUND HIM EVERYDAY SEE THIS???
Karen do you see this? Do you say anything to him?
Michael do you see this when you go over wardrobe? Do you say anything to him?
PLEASE INTERVENE AND HELP. I really think he is to the point where something bad and regrettable could happen to him. I don't mean to suggest that you are responsible for him but AS A FRIEND AND ONE OF THE VERY FEW CONSISTENT PEOPLE around him that I think TRULY CARES about him, please risk saying something to him if you have not already.
Michael Amir, Alberto and Faheem have begun to restrict access to Michael and I'm now no longer allowed to even give a letter into his hands without them reading it first. They have many excuses that Michael is tired or in tour mode now or it's for his safety. This is ridiculous after 15 years of seeing Michael, I don't expect to be treated this way as if I would somehow harm him. I may be “just a fan” but I have been there for Michael for a really long time before them and will surely be here after them and Michael needs to hear from his fans when it is clear he is distressed, and those on the inside aren’t always worried for him but probably more concerned for their jobs should they say something deemed inappropriate. THEY MUST SEE that Michael is wasting down to nothing, but I don't trust that they say or do anything. And shutting his fans out during this time is not what he needs. I see how alone Michael is, and heard from him how heavy he feels under the pressure. He has his children, but they are his responsibility to look after not the other way around, and so beyond his children his close friends are very few and far between. Everyone else around him in this time is focused on This Is It. I have seen in the past couple years that no one has really been around for him in Las Vegas, then Bel Air, now Los Angeles, no one who really cares for him as a friend and not just as a business. Except of course the two of you.
If he is suffering from something serious, physically or mentally, regarding his weight or health, please intervene. Please let me know that he is alright. These concerts are not worth jeopardizing his life.
I’m really in tears for him, for the state that I saw him in. If you’ve already said something to him, please give him this letter if you think he needs to hear it again from someone else. I'm sure whatever exactly is going on must be a fragile situation but please don't avoid it altogether. I'm so worried. Please tell me he is okay. Above that, please tell me the TRUTH.
I love him. Please help him if he needs it. I wish I could do something, I feel helpless.
Thank you for reading,
Sandy
</BLOCKQUOTE>
Michael had invited us inside his rehearsal studio where he spoke very candidly about his fears and feelings about the tour schedule, AEG, and Randy Phillips. He also said he was suffering back pain, and he was not eating, which was already obvious to us. He was nearly in tears as he spoke, and folded his hands in prayer during a moment of silence. We left this meeting feeling very disturbed and worried for Michael, and continued to witness him over the next couple weeks losing yet more weight and sometimes in a drug-induced state. The group of “followers” decided that we needed to take decisive action and reach Michael directly about our worries. Michael was deteriorating quickly and our shock and fears continued to grow every day, we couldn’t rely on his entourage to care for his well-being, because they were clearly not, nor would they take our concerns seriously. We decided to write letters to Michael himself, each of us wrote a letter individually, but all had the same sentiment about our fears over Michael’s condition, pleading for him to take better care of himself, to love himself, and put himself before the tour. The letters were given directly into Michael’s hands outside his rehearsal studio the night before he passed away. Michael tried to phone Talitha (one of the fans who actually gave the letters and Michael knew very well) several times from the Staples Center, but the call kept dropping and we will never know what he wanted to say. Michael’s personal assistant, Michael Amir, told me in Los Angeles when I went back for Michael’s memorial that Michael asked for the letters upon returning home after rehearsal, and he took them to Michael in his bedroom. Michael would be gone in less than 8 hours.
So sadly, this is my last letter to Michael, written June 22nd and given to Michael night of June 24th. I share this for those who are attempting to blame those of us who actually tried to be heard. You are accusing the wrong people of doing nothing. Your attention should be turned towards AEG, Randy Phillips, Frank Dileo who claimed outright that everything was “under control” and “Michael is not going to die.”
<BLOCKQUOTE>Dearest Michael,
I’m not exactly sure how to begin what I need to say to you, but please understand everything I say comes only from a place of overwhelming love and care for your happiness and health. I love you so very much; much much much more than I could ever hope to adequately express to you. In the past several months I have become very worried that you are not caring for yourself as you deserve to be cared for. I have noticed you becoming increasingly thin, and you are now so thin that I’m really concerned about your well-being.
I can only imagine the paralyzing degree of pressure you must be feeling lately in preparation for you concerts, and I can only assume your drastic weight loss is a symptom of the stress you feel so heavily upon you in these recent months.
Michael, I just pray that you know I will still love and adore and support you even if you were to never set your precious feet upon another stage. You have stood proud against more stress and pressures in your life than is fair for one person to ever endure, and you have always done it with grace, humility, honor. For this I have admired you, with your seemingly superhuman strength and incredible willpower to carry though the deepest and darkest of times. But dearest Michael, I know you are human and must often feel tired, lost or lonely, overwhelmed, tiny in the shadow of enormous obligations. I can only imagine you must be feeling the weight of the world upon your shoulders in these couple remaining weeks until your opening night. I am worried that your intense schedule and perhaps your own worries about pleasing your fans, and stunning the world again with your greatness, is causing you to forgo food and lose weight you can no longer afford to lose.
I hope and pray that your concerts are everything amazingly fantastic that you have dared to dream. I know you have been working incredibly hard, incredibly long hours and want nothing more for you to be happy with the fruits of your labor. However, I pray that you are not laboring so hard that you are neglecting your health and not eating as necessary to nourish your body, mind, and spirit during what is undoubtedly an immensely stressful time.
Michael, when I met you several months ago at Halloween I was taken aback at how thin you were. But you had told me you were beginning to prepare a tour, and so I assumed perhaps your slight frame was the result of preparation. At that time you spoke about the concerts with a sparkle of anticipation in your voice, a spirit of exuberance, a light in your eyes like I had not seen for years. I was happy that you were happy. But now seeing you again in Los Angeles these past several weeks I am concerned your spirit seems broken, and your weight has fallen further. When I met you in the dance studio I was shocked at how thin you have become, when we hugged I felt there was not enough of you. If the concerts have become too much, too many, too stressful, please know you are not alone and you could never ever disappoint us should you feel it impossible to carry through. If the concerts are somehow jeopardizing your health, your health and well-being absolutely must come first. We could not enjoy a concert knowing you were suffering through it. Please do not feel obligated to us to perform beyond your desire, beyond your capability. This is not to say I doubt you for even a second, but I’m only worried that your weight is drastically low and am afraid for your life as you are about to expend an incredible amount of energy over the coming months.
I hope I haven’t offended you in any way with any of these words. I love you so much and I only dare to say what I have out of care and concern. You have seemed somewhat sad, overly stressed, and super skinny recently and I just want you to know that you are loved and I am praying for your health and happiness. I hope that you are actually perfectly alright and my worries are simply paranoia from having seen you on days when perhaps you weren’t feeling your best. Michael Amir, Alberto, and Faheem have begun restricting access to you more severely in recent weeks so it has not been easy to ask how you are doing and give our love and prayers. Please forgive us if we have upset you but we are worried.
I’m so looking forward to seeing you again in London. I love you and ask that you please take care of yourself - for yourself, your children, your fans, your family, and all those the world over who love you deeply and dearly from the very bottom of our hearts. We want to love you for many more years to come.
I Love You Always & Forever,
Sandy
</BLOCKQUOTE>
I am sure that he read it and now consider it my final goodbye to Michael.
It is with complete confidence that I say Michael did not trust or like AEG/Randy Phillips, but he felt enslaved financially to their demands because of their role in re-financing his life. We saw Randy Phillips at Michael’s memorial and told him "we know the truth"...he denied that he ever went against Michael's wishes, but Michael told us the truth and naturally we believe Michael. We told Randy "you know that we know the truth"...he was visibly shocked and was without words. I hope he feels an immense amount of regret and guilt, along with anyone/everyone else involved in what I believe pushed Michael to an edge from which he eventually fell.
We have known for many years that Michael was sometimes taking prescription drugs, that he endured phases of addictions over the past decade. The “followers” have witnessed this many times over the years, we have seen and spoken with Michael in altered states, and we have often felt concerned for him. It was not something we ever chose to post on forums or share publicly as it was a private matter for Michael, and we always chose not to jeopardize his privacy. However, those that SUPPLIED, ENABLED, USED, and NEGLECTED him over these years, especially in his last months, should take responsibility for their part in his death. Michael needed help, and instead his “friends” chose to keep him happy and controlled rather than getting him the help he desperately needed. Michael was human like all of us, and like anyone dependent on drugs he needed help. He did not need criminal doctors and friends keeping him medicated so their own greed and profits could be realized.
We also now know many more details that have revealed themselves since Michael’s passing and have given us full confidence in what we know and saw and corroborates our own testimonies. Some have been promised confidential, but it is our hope that the This Is Not It campaign will encourage others to speak the TRUTH they also know.
edit: The photo attached to this note was taken on May 29, 2009, 3 weeks before Michael passed. It is very evident he is very underweight, and he continued to lose weight even after this picture. It is most evident in his face, jaw and neck. You will also see in the This Is It movie that Michael was almost aways wearing THREE shirts AND a jacket to conceal his small frame in his last weeks.
MJ & Sandy
May 29, 2009
SAMANTHA'S TESTIMONY
I don’t know where to begin with my testimony. There is simply too much to say and so many feelings involved, feelings of sadness, regret, anger, confusion and helplessness. However, I need to share my story with the rest of you, for what it’s worth. It won’t bring Michael back and the vultures around him will keep fighting for whatever is left of him and his estate. This campaign we are putting together isn’t to try and stop the unstoppable, but to simply do Michael justice by telling who we can that he wasn’t well and that he DID reach out to us and that we owe him at least the truth by telling you what he told and showed us in th elast few weeks of his life. Whether he expressed his anguish and distress in words or in obvious physical and mental states, I believe (and I am not alone) that he was crying out for help and no-one around him came to his rescue, blinded by greed, fear, self-interest, disregard or even lack of compassion.
I have been a fan for over 20 years but only over the last 8 months of Michael’s life had I become what is called a “follower”. By that meaning I followed Michael on a regular if not daily basis. I got to see where he went and how he was and the people around him. I got to see his physical and mental state and how quickly things deteriorated in the last few weeks/months of his life. This is my recollection of the events preceding his death and how some of us, including myself, knew he was running out of time and was in great danger. We tried to intervene but we were too late.
In November 2008, Michael who was then staying at the Bel-Air hotel, met with a group of us outside and spoke to us for quite a while and he was kind enough to bring us food from his favorite restaurant which he had ordered for himself too that evening. He looked great and was very calm, very clear and lucid. There was obviously nothing “wrong” with him that evening. He spoke to us about many things and hinted at many projects coming up. At that time we had no idea that concerts were in the works. In the next few weeks Michael had many meetings at that hotel, meetings which now we know were about the Tour.
After the 02 concerts were announced in March, Michael began rehearsing at Center Staging between April and May. It is around that we started seeing a pattern in the increased visits to Dr. Klein’s office. The increase in visits and their duration began to alarm me and some others, especially when we began noticing the effects they had on him. He would start leaving the facility looking "groggy". We began realizing the procedures must have involved mind-altering substances.
It reached the point where some of us commented that it was pointless to give him fan letters and gifts after doctor’s visits as he would just send them back out signed, even though they were clearly letters addressed to him and not pictures from autograph hunters.
Something alarmed me more than usual on Saturday, April 25th,2009. It was the first time Michael went to see Dr. Klein on a week-end and it was late. He stayed there from 5pm-9.30pm.
When he came out from Klein’s office Michael smelled very strongly of I would say either rubbing alcohol or Ether and looked groggy.
On May 29th, Michael brought some of us in to Center Staging to talk to us about what was going on (after some fans told him they couldn’t get tickets to the concerts and how the ticket sales didn’t make sense and how things seemed to be a mess and was he aware of it). He told us he wasn’t aware of the problem, that he wasn’t aware that it was a seated venue and that he would do something about it. He told us he had gone to bed thinking it was 10 concerts and woke up finding out it was 50! He said “They did it without my consent. They just did it for obvious reasons”. He added “They did the schedule wrong too. It was supposed to be day, show off, day, show off, day, show off”. (He meant show, day off, show, day off).
His voice was breaking as he was going to start crying and he put his hands together in a prayer position and stood quietly. We were quiet with him. It was a very intense moment and filled with, in my opinion, sadness and worry.
I left feeling like our worries were validated and so did most of us there.
Unfortunately, the day after Michael made this statement it came out in the press. We don't know, but AEG was quick to refute it and call it a lie.
This also coincides with the timing of everything changing for the small group of us who used to have open contact with Michael.
After AEG found out about Michael’s statement to us everything changed.
Security shut us out and Michael stopped being as “available”.
With restricted access (although we still saw got to see him and somewhat speak to him) the doctor’s visits became more frequent and we noticed more of a physical change in him, especially his weight. He just looked too skinny and something felt wrong overall. Even his security guards’ attitudes and ways changed.
On June 1st Michael started rehearsals at the Forum in Inglewood
A couple of weeks into it, Michael Amir (Michael’s personal assistant and security) said that Michael was very tired, that he hadn't slept the entire week-end and that AEG kept on calling him all the time.
It was around that time that Michael would go to rehearsals later and later and sometimes cancel.
One of those times was on June 12th. Michael went late to rehearsals. On arrival there he didn’t stop for us the way he usually did. Shortly afterward his security came to see where we were, driving by our cars a block away where we usually parked and waited. They made no attempt to tell us what they were doing. This was about 8-9pm. At around midnight one of his security guards called “Biggie”, came out and told us: “Michael says this is “dangerous” (?!) and that “Michael didn’t want to go to rehearsals tonight”, “he’s tired”. And then we were asked to line up one by one and that we would get to have 15 seconds each alone with Michael. It all felt awkward for all of us involved. We didn’t understand what was going on but of course we did line up and had our time individually. It was very impersonal and we were being closely monitored by his security.
In the last few days of Michael’s life I also remember noticing his security guard Alberto Alvarez often looking very agitated and breaking into a nervous sweat. He would tell us, when questioning him on whether Michael was okay or not, that Michael was “focused” and in “tour mode” and not actually answering the question. Yet we could see it was more than that, that Michael had become increasingly altered, groggy and emaciated and that his security was nervous about something. In fact, instead of having 2-3 guards behind the gates at his house, it doubled and tripled and I even counted up to 12 of them on the night he died.
Something was up, something had changed and we knew it was time to act.
In an attempt to do an intervention to save his life, a couple of dozen fans (including myself) wrote letters to Michael the week before his death. It was out intention to give him the letters and to make a statement on behalf of all the fans who felt something was wrong.
We knew it was a matter of time before he died unless an action was taken. No-one else around him seemed to care enough to do it. Once all the letters were collected and a plan was in place, we decided to intervene on June 24th, 2009.
We did in fact manage to get them in his hands that afternoon. That night would be the last time I’d see him, leaving Staples Center at around 1.30 am on June 25th,2009.
This was my letter to him:
“Michael,
I have admired and loved you since the age of 14 when you first saved my life. You have kept saving it throughout the years, as blunt and odd as it may sound to someone who doesn’t even “know” me. You kept me going and gave me hope and strength. .
Now it’s my turn, all of our turns, to reach out to YOU and tell you we’re here or you and that we want to help.
Please understand we love you so much we can’t afford to lose you. You mean so much it hurts to see you unhappy the way we have seen you for a while, as hard as you’ve tried to hide it. We feel and see something is wrong.
Michael, don’t ever do anything you DON’T want to do, whether it be concerts or anything-else people want you to do to make money.
Don’t let anyone or anything stress you to the point where you lose sleep, worry or do whatever else that ultimately affects your health. None of it is worth it and you don’t need to prove yourself.
You’ve paid your dues, more than once.
I need you and love you so deeply and truly, we all do.
Samantha”
Finally I want to end this by making something very clear. I am not saying Michael seemed high or groggy all the time. I want that to be understood. We did NOT perceive him as a junkie. We were just concerned (during a certain period of time) that he was too stressed and too pressured to be able to eat and function without medication and that people around him knew he was unwell and chose to close their eyes for profit, and God knows what other reason. But I know what I saw and I know it wasn’t a healthy, happy, fit man ready to go onstage less than 3 weeks later, and they know it too. It’s time for the truth to come out.
Samantha
MJ & Sam
May 29, 2009
TALIN Testimony
Dear fans,
I live in LA and was consistently around Michael during his stay here in the last 8 months of his life. On days that I was not present, other “followers” were always around, so please take our testimonies seriously since collectively we saw Michael everyday and collectively our concerns were the same.
In my opinion, there are only two theories about Michael’s death:
1) Michael was being controlled, under pressure, being overworked, and his needs were being neglected. In addition to this, he was intentionally murdered and those responsible for this are more than just Dr. Murray.
2) Michael was being controlled, under pressure, being overworked, and his needs were being neglected. He was accidentally murdered by Dr. Murray.
The first part of both theories is FACT and while others may convince themselves that he was “fine”, I cannot lie to myself and ignore what I personally experienced in the last weeks of his life.
It’s very clear that Michael initially decided on these shows for financial reasons, though once the concerts were announced I noticed him excited about the whole record breaking project. In the first couple of months of rehearsals he seemed happy with things, asked us if we were surprised by the press conference and would ask us about songs we wanted to hear. But in the last 3 or 4 weeks things gradually turned downhill, the excitement was not always there, and after a while we finally realized something was wrong. Here are my FACTS:
On May 29th, the last day of rehearsals at Center Staging, a few of us went inside the studio and talked to Michael. It was actually he who wanted to talk to us. He first apologized about the seating arrangements for the concerts then expressed “the seating and the dates were done without my consent”. He said he was doing these shows for us and wanted to do it the way we wanted him to. He seemed unhappy about the way things were going and at some point his voice cracked like he was going to cry. He said that he’s only one person and only has so much energy…… Later that night we met him at a different location where we took pictures with him. Michael was half sitting inside the car and I was kind of leaning on him. I put my hand on his leg to push myself up and all I felt was bone. No, not like he was just skinny, more like he was nothing but a skeleton. It REALLY alarmed me and that’s when I first thought something was wrong. My personal letters to him from then on voiced concerns, not telling him anything specific but just asking him to think of his health and happiness first. Prior to this I had wondered when he would start putting weight on like he had during previous tours, but since he usually wore layers of oversized clothes, it was hard to tell just how think he was. Still with these facts to worry about, this is when his hair went curly, preparations were moving along and the concert hype was peaking. So I thought ‘well, maybe I’m overreacting. He has a month, maybe things will get sorted out’. And his first rehearsal at the Forum the following week was promising since we heard him singing so I thought it could all be coming together. I was still concerned but not worried that he was in danger.
June 12th is when Michael’s security started to act weird and started keeping us away from him by taking extreme measures. Their actions were absolutely unnecessary considering the fact that at any given time there were no more than 10 or 12 of us there and these were people that he knew and trusted as did his security. In the next couple of weeks so many reasons for this ran through my head. 1) As the guards kept saying, he was in “concert mode” and was probably trying to build up the hysteria. 2) He was groggy and didn’t want us to see and notice. 3) Concert promoters had found out that he was confiding in us and complaining to us and somehow this was being leaked to the press and they instructed the guards to make sure we have no contact with him. 4) Maybe he just didn’t want to be bothered and had started to feel unsafe (possible, but strange given the timing and other factors).
Michael frequently visited Dr. Klein’s office and at times came out of there groggy.
I always wondered why he was going there but never did I feel I had the right to ask. I assumed it was some kind of skin treatment but it bothered me that he was in there for hours (sometimes as long as 5 hours) and it bothered me that he was being put under. Never did I suspect he was going there to sleep and again, I did not feel like it was my place to ask nor would I have gotten any kind of an answer from anyone.
June 16th was the last time I saw him outside Dr. Klein’s office (even though I believe he went there once more before his death).
Among all the fans that were around him that day, we came to the conclusion that he was groggy when he first left the house and he was groggy when he left Dr. Klein’s office. He then went home for a while before going to rehearsal and he was groggy again after rehearsal. That night, 6 of us gathered with different scenarios. This is when we thought something was seriously wrong. We thought that maybe Michael was being drugged against his will to continue with rehearsals and not object. We thought he was being controlled by either AEG or the NOI or both. We started to make accusations about his staff and others involved with the shows and tried to think of what we could do. We knew of someone that was inside the forum but not involved with the concerts. I suggested we ask that person inside how Michael was doing when on stage and one of my friend said “Michael hasn’t been on stage for the past 3 rehearsals” (the past 3 rehearsals being June 11th, 12th, and 16th). The next day I asked Alberto, the head security, how Michael was doing with rehearsals and if he was happy and healthy. Alberto’s response was extremely positive. Of course he was lying since Michael hadn’t been on stage recently so he couldn’t have been doing “great”. Yes, maybe there were days when he was not needed on stage but not this close to opening night and not for 3 consecutive rehearsals.
June 21st was when I saw Marika’s email about what she had seen and how concerned she was about his weight. Without hesitation we teamed up to get our letters to Michael. Many fans now are blaming us for not including everyone. Please, please keep in mind that not all fans see eye to eye and had we opened this up for discussion, many would have attacked us for over exaggerating and seeking attention. Also keep in mind that this all happened in just a couple of days… On the 22nd there was no rehearsal. The 23rd was his first day at Staple Center and we tried to give the letters but unnecessary security measures made it impossible. On the 24th, by careful planning we were successful but clearly too late. I hand wrote my letter so I don’t have a copy of it to share. It was similar to other letters. Without doubting his abilities, I begged him to take care of himself and do what’s best for him, his family and his health and not to worry about us, the world, or his finances. Hours after we last saw him, he was dead. So for those people that doubt us, or question our intentions, or say that we are exaggerating what we experienced, do you think this was all a coincidence? Do you think the fact that we all panicked, worried, and took action, then had our worst expectation become reality was just chance? While the blame may only be put on Dr. Murray, the REAL cause of Michael Jackson’s death may remain a mystery forever. What IS fact is that Michael was not okay in the last weeks of his life but everyone around him chose to ignore that since they thought the show must go on! Yes, Michael was murdered accidentally or intentionally and by propofol. I’m not saying that His weight or previous drug use played a role in his death. What I’m trying to get across is that AEG is making it seem like he was perfectly fine and healthy up until the point when Dr. Murray overmedicated him, but we saw otherwise. So is AEG hiding more, covering up their tracks, by releasing this perfectly edited documentary? Is someone else behind it all? We may never know the truth but now you all know what I noticed, what we all noticed and tried to act on in the last days of his life.
Some people asked us where we got some of our information. This is one testimony among many, just to prove you we have first hand evidence. Be warned, this will be difficult to read if you hear this for the first time.
Michael could have been helped somehow, even if Murray was the hand that killed him, you have to wonder why Michael Jackson felt the need to take propofol at night, why all these people who worked with him and saw him in an altered state did not realize this could kill him, one way or another. If people like Marika who had such lesser access to him than everyone else, including the promoters, the managers, the crew, if she could see so much as to be worried that he could die, how is it possible THEY did not see it?
It's all about asking the right questions.
MARIKA'S TESTIMONY
"What I witnessed in June"
Hello everyone,
I know some of you won't like what I have to say, but I need to tell my experience so you can all understand.
Some of you may have heard about an email I sent on June 21st. It has ben posted on forums without my consent, and people trashed me, saying I was a liar, was looking for fame (??) and more...
This is why I sent it:
I, with, two other friends, met MJ in his car on March 19th.
We talked about AEG, how he was furious with them, wanting to make money, selling tickets vio Viagogo. He said "I hate to hear stories like that!"
Me and my friend saw a very frail Michael. He had large orange pants. But as he was in the back seat and us, sitting in the front seat, he had his legs between ours. We could see what his leg was really looking like.
He was so skinny.
Michael couldn't stop apologizing for the way he looked: "I'm sorry you have to see me like that, Im so sorry!" He was hiding his face in his hands when saying this.
Anyway, we were a little bit concerned, but thought: Ok, he has 3 months until the shows in London, so he may be working with someone...
3 months later, me and my friend went back to Carolwood, and we witnessed Michael being under influences. But what was weird, is that it was AFTER rehearsals, and not only after Dr Klein's visit. So whatever they were giving to him, he was given (or took himself) at the rehearsals.
That night, Michael had memory loss. He was completly high, as if he was talking in his sleep.
If WE SAW that, don't tell me people around him, talking to him 10 hours a day couldn't see it.
Few days later, Michael invited me and my friend on the set of the Dome project. My friend had made a jacket for him.
He was wearing a Red Balamin jacket, you can see it in the trailer.
My friend gave him her jacket and Michael took it to try it.
He took off his own jacket.
he was wearing white tight pants and a white tight shirt.
For the first time, we realized how much weight he did loose.
I couldnt have wear his jacket.
He really was skinny. And NOT THIN.
The jacket was of course too big for him.
But he was happy and said: Oh how do you know my size?!
Well... take a woman size and it fits.
He kept it. You saw a picture of him wearing it. Dated June 11th.
Of course, you can't really tell by the picture.. But he could close this jacket behind his back literally.
this is why me and my friend sent this email on June 21st. To share our concerns on his health.
I am not saying Michael was dying from a disease.
I am not saying Michael was killed
I am not saying I Know the Truth
I am just saying that WE, fans, felt that MJ could be in danger.
I am just saying that WE, fans, saw how much weight Michael lost.
I am just saying that WE, fans, could see he was under influences.
I am just saying that MICHAEL told the fans he was under a lot of pressure, couldn't eat or sleep.
I am now just asking why they, MJ's ENTOURAGE, keep saying that Michael was in great shape, when anyone else, not working for him, could see he was not?
I am just asking why, just today (2 days after this page is online), A PRESS RELEASE leaked Michael's autopsy saying his weight was 136lbs (even if this is not a lot), with the title "Michael Jackson was healthy" linking everywhere suddenly.
the autopsy reports were not supposed to come out before the end of the investigation.
Someone is getting scared?
I am not saying Michael was killed
I am not saying Michael was sick.
I am just saying to some people:
STOP LYING TO US
STOP TAKING US FOR FOOLS
We saw in what shape Michael was
He told us he was NOT feeling good.
Stop lying.
We already lost him.
Have the guts to admitt the truth and say:
Yes, maybe Michael needed help we didnt provide him.
We should have put more breaks between the shows, just to make him feel less nervous.
We are not saying those people killed him.
But by listening to someone's problem and anxiety, they could have make him feel more relax, he could have eat, sleep better and wouldnt have asked for Propofol.
Therefore, he would still be here.
Thank you.
MJ with my friend jacket
The dome Project / Culver Studio
June 11th 2009
This is the email I sentto MJ fans and Michael's entourage if you wanna read it:
Marika Prochet 21 juin, à 15:21
Dear closest MJ fans,
This is an important message. Some of you are going to hate it. Others will start thinking.
As you may know, few days ago, me and Moon got the luck to be invited on the set of Michael's shooting.
Michael was wearing white pants. Real tights. And a white shirt. Real tight.
As you all know, Michael has been really skinny since the trial. We all talk together and we always say: he is scary skinny.
some of us told him he should eat.
But what Moon and I saw last week horrifed us. He is not scary skinny. He is a skeleton. I saw his back, and wanted to throw up. I never felt a shock like this. And I already knew he was skinny. But this clothes... it was as if he was naked. I was ashamed.
I got out of the set. And what did I told the fans?
"Oh god he is so skinny!" And then, what did I say?
"Oh it was great! yeahhh! I saw Michael on the set! yeah!!!"
I had the same reaction I had since the trial. He is now more than skinny. He is a skeleton. But I can do nothing so let's talk about something else! About how happy I was to meet him.
But to be honnest, I, since this day, feel weird. Like a guilty sensation.
I feel that I witnessed reality. For once, he didnt had a coat on, a big shirt, big trousers. For once, I saw the reality of his situation.
I feel like I already knew but didnt want to accept it.
Honestly, I think I was like everyone of you. We are worried for 5 minutes but then, the only thing we can think about is: I want to see Michael, I want to get a hug, I want to say I love you... I think about myself and my happiness.
But I started to wonder: Michael rehearse everyday, he is surronded by 200 people, that work with him everyday. But who are those people?
Dancers that are living their dream, Kenny Ortega who is producing his best show ever, technicians, Michael security, Michael Bush.. and KAren Faye.
No family, no friends, no one.
Karen is the only one to have love for Michael. So I mailed her. I wanted to know if people were blind or doing nothing?
Here is her answer:
Hi Marika,
I know.
I am doing everything humanly possible...your heart and mine are in the same place.
Please keep this private for his sake.
Love,
Karen
Shanti, Shanti, Shanti
When I read that, I realized I was right.
She is doing something. But what can she do?
As we all know, Michael listen to no one. He does whatever he wants.
And if you know a litlle bit about anorexy, you know that if you tell them to eat, it's completly useless.
So Karen may tell him to eat. He won't.
People in his situation need a shock to start doing something.
So here is my question to all of you:
We all love Michael really much. We all want to see his shows. We all think about how we will be first row. About how we will get more tickets.
About how we will meet him more than the others fans. About getting a picture with him. About not hurting him.
How will you do all of these things if during the third concert he faints on stage, and if his heart stops during his way to the hospital?
How will you feel when you will talk with others fans and will say: We knew he was too skinny to perform 50 shows. We knew he stopped eating during the trial and reheare 10 hours per day for us.
How will you feel when you will say: people said he was doing fine but they lied. We saw he was a skeleton.
Will you feel guilty? Will you be able to sleep at night thinking you knew it and did nothing?
Some of you are going to say:
"He has doctors with him"
"They wouldnt let him dance if he was not healthy"
"I don't want to do something, it would hurt him"
Well let me tell you this:
If he had doctors with him, he would have gained weight.
No one saw Lou Ferrigno somewhere around rehearsals or Michael's house.
On the set, I watched people around Michael. Everyone was avoiding Michael, looking somewhere else. They were all working on their video.
Too many money involved. You dont want to be fired because you told Michael Jackson to eat.
You all know Michael's employees will never take the risk to lose their job. They dont love Michael this much.
And for those who have been to Carolwood, you all know that Michael is completly alone there.
If you get this email, it means you are part of the MJ's fans who know that Michael is not Peter Pan, Michael is not 100% perfect, and that at this day, we are the only ones left who love Michael enough to try to make a difference.
We all saw Michael at his worst, and we all see him still alive.
But just think 5 minutes that this skeleton that Michael has become is going to perform 2 hours every night during 3 months.
Will you be able to do it?
Models die at 18 from anorexia because their heart stop. And they just walk on a catwalk.
Michael is 51. He dances 10 hours per day. And is going to dance 2 hours every night during 3 months.
Do you think he will be ok?
Now that you know, are you going to do something or are you going to fight with other fans to get the best meeting with him?
Please, let's think about the best solution to help him realize. He needs to be shocked by us. We need to make him react.
And unfortunalty, we may have to hurt his feelings somehow.
But if he stays alive, isnt it worth it?
Marika
SANDY's TESTIMONY
Dear fans and friends, and those who deserve the truth…
I have decided to share some letters that I wrote prior to Michael’s death, and the last letter that I wrote to Michael that was given to him just before rehearsal the night before he passed. I choose to do this in support of the This Is Not It campaign, and because I believe Michael would have wanted us to speak his truth now that he is gone, in the same way he always asked us to do through all this years against the allegations, Mottolla-Sony, etc.
This is of course very sad and difficult and not something I ever expected to share so publicly, but now that Michael has passed I feel it is more important to inform and support the TRUTH against the blatant lies and attempted cover-up by those around Michael in his last months. I also feel the need to defend against those that are saying the “followers” are only speaking out after the fact now that Michael is gone. This is not true and we tried our best as far as we were capable “only” being fans. Everything that we are claiming and speaking is truth, and is based on words from MICHAEL HIMSELF, what we ACTUALLY WITNESSED in the months before he passed, along with what we also witnessed about Michael’s “friends” and “doctors” over the past two decades of “following” Michael.
First, an email that I wrote on June 21st, four days before Michael passed. I sent this email to Karen Faye (Michael’s makeup artist) and Michael Bush (Michael’s tailor) who I knew to be around Michael almost daily in the weeks prior to his death and the only members of his entourage I considered trustworthy and true friends to Michael. I had met Michael, spoken with him, and witnessed his condition over 2 weeks time in Los Angeles at the end of May and beginning of June. I left Los Angeles with an uneasy feeling, particularly about Michael’s obvious weight loss.
<BLOCKQUOTE>Subject Line: Please look after Michael-INTERVENE PLEASE-something is wrong, I saw it.
Karen, Michael...
There is something that has been worrying me for several months now. I think there is something wrong with Michael and his health or his self-image about his weight and I am really worried.
I have been afraid to say anything to anyone because it's probably not really my place to talk about something so personal concerning Michael, and talking about it amongst fans can make you an outcast because it is regarded as criticising Michael. But I want to know if he is alright. I also want to know if he is not alright that someone is intervening and doing something about it. There are always new people around Michael and as has always been obvious they do not always have his best interest at heart because of their own interests, but I expect that you really care about Michael in a way that you would perhaps cross a line that others might not if you saw that he is somehow hurting himself.
It is painfully obvious that Michael is TOO THIN. I know that Michael's weight fluctuates, and he is often mostly too thin anyways, but NOW he is REALLY TOO THIN. I first noticed back in October that his weight was really plummeting. I spent a couple hours with Michael in his Bel Air suite at Halloween, and it really struck me how thin he was even back then. When we hugged I felt there was literally nothing to him. I told him to please take care of himself and stay healthy and that he looked good-I was trying to make a point that he doesn't need to lose more, that he looks good already, to stop now. Naturally this embarassed him and he mostly just smiled and said thank you without knowing what to say. I also wrote him a letter about it, which he read but only replied again saying thank you.
Michael told me back then that he was preparing a tour and so I thought perhaps it is normal for him to slim down in preparation. I expected that he would become very weight-conscious. But now it seems he has gone TOO FAR. I met him inside the dance rehearsal studio a couple weeks ago and I was honestly SHOCKED. I noticed how the bones of his shoulders were LITERALLY protruding, poking through the material of his black fitted top. He was SCARY SKINNY. When we hugged I felt his skeleton. I felt very worried and very sad for him.
He was also looking very down and stressed and his demeanor and voice were very frail. HE ACTUALLY SAID he was stressed and worried how he will be able to do all 50 shows, that he does not eat enough, and he does not have enough breaks between shows. Clearly the situation is too much for him, it is making him SICK...whether it is self-imposed because he is not eating or something else.
DOES NO ONE ELSE AROUND HIM EVERYDAY SEE THIS???
Karen do you see this? Do you say anything to him?
Michael do you see this when you go over wardrobe? Do you say anything to him?
PLEASE INTERVENE AND HELP. I really think he is to the point where something bad and regrettable could happen to him. I don't mean to suggest that you are responsible for him but AS A FRIEND AND ONE OF THE VERY FEW CONSISTENT PEOPLE around him that I think TRULY CARES about him, please risk saying something to him if you have not already.
Michael Amir, Alberto and Faheem have begun to restrict access to Michael and I'm now no longer allowed to even give a letter into his hands without them reading it first. They have many excuses that Michael is tired or in tour mode now or it's for his safety. This is ridiculous after 15 years of seeing Michael, I don't expect to be treated this way as if I would somehow harm him. I may be “just a fan” but I have been there for Michael for a really long time before them and will surely be here after them and Michael needs to hear from his fans when it is clear he is distressed, and those on the inside aren’t always worried for him but probably more concerned for their jobs should they say something deemed inappropriate. THEY MUST SEE that Michael is wasting down to nothing, but I don't trust that they say or do anything. And shutting his fans out during this time is not what he needs. I see how alone Michael is, and heard from him how heavy he feels under the pressure. He has his children, but they are his responsibility to look after not the other way around, and so beyond his children his close friends are very few and far between. Everyone else around him in this time is focused on This Is It. I have seen in the past couple years that no one has really been around for him in Las Vegas, then Bel Air, now Los Angeles, no one who really cares for him as a friend and not just as a business. Except of course the two of you.
If he is suffering from something serious, physically or mentally, regarding his weight or health, please intervene. Please let me know that he is alright. These concerts are not worth jeopardizing his life.
I’m really in tears for him, for the state that I saw him in. If you’ve already said something to him, please give him this letter if you think he needs to hear it again from someone else. I'm sure whatever exactly is going on must be a fragile situation but please don't avoid it altogether. I'm so worried. Please tell me he is okay. Above that, please tell me the TRUTH.
I love him. Please help him if he needs it. I wish I could do something, I feel helpless.
Thank you for reading,
Sandy
</BLOCKQUOTE>
Michael had invited us inside his rehearsal studio where he spoke very candidly about his fears and feelings about the tour schedule, AEG, and Randy Phillips. He also said he was suffering back pain, and he was not eating, which was already obvious to us. He was nearly in tears as he spoke, and folded his hands in prayer during a moment of silence. We left this meeting feeling very disturbed and worried for Michael, and continued to witness him over the next couple weeks losing yet more weight and sometimes in a drug-induced state. The group of “followers” decided that we needed to take decisive action and reach Michael directly about our worries. Michael was deteriorating quickly and our shock and fears continued to grow every day, we couldn’t rely on his entourage to care for his well-being, because they were clearly not, nor would they take our concerns seriously. We decided to write letters to Michael himself, each of us wrote a letter individually, but all had the same sentiment about our fears over Michael’s condition, pleading for him to take better care of himself, to love himself, and put himself before the tour. The letters were given directly into Michael’s hands outside his rehearsal studio the night before he passed away. Michael tried to phone Talitha (one of the fans who actually gave the letters and Michael knew very well) several times from the Staples Center, but the call kept dropping and we will never know what he wanted to say. Michael’s personal assistant, Michael Amir, told me in Los Angeles when I went back for Michael’s memorial that Michael asked for the letters upon returning home after rehearsal, and he took them to Michael in his bedroom. Michael would be gone in less than 8 hours.
So sadly, this is my last letter to Michael, written June 22nd and given to Michael night of June 24th. I share this for those who are attempting to blame those of us who actually tried to be heard. You are accusing the wrong people of doing nothing. Your attention should be turned towards AEG, Randy Phillips, Frank Dileo who claimed outright that everything was “under control” and “Michael is not going to die.”
<BLOCKQUOTE>Dearest Michael,
I’m not exactly sure how to begin what I need to say to you, but please understand everything I say comes only from a place of overwhelming love and care for your happiness and health. I love you so very much; much much much more than I could ever hope to adequately express to you. In the past several months I have become very worried that you are not caring for yourself as you deserve to be cared for. I have noticed you becoming increasingly thin, and you are now so thin that I’m really concerned about your well-being.
I can only imagine the paralyzing degree of pressure you must be feeling lately in preparation for you concerts, and I can only assume your drastic weight loss is a symptom of the stress you feel so heavily upon you in these recent months.
Michael, I just pray that you know I will still love and adore and support you even if you were to never set your precious feet upon another stage. You have stood proud against more stress and pressures in your life than is fair for one person to ever endure, and you have always done it with grace, humility, honor. For this I have admired you, with your seemingly superhuman strength and incredible willpower to carry though the deepest and darkest of times. But dearest Michael, I know you are human and must often feel tired, lost or lonely, overwhelmed, tiny in the shadow of enormous obligations. I can only imagine you must be feeling the weight of the world upon your shoulders in these couple remaining weeks until your opening night. I am worried that your intense schedule and perhaps your own worries about pleasing your fans, and stunning the world again with your greatness, is causing you to forgo food and lose weight you can no longer afford to lose.
I hope and pray that your concerts are everything amazingly fantastic that you have dared to dream. I know you have been working incredibly hard, incredibly long hours and want nothing more for you to be happy with the fruits of your labor. However, I pray that you are not laboring so hard that you are neglecting your health and not eating as necessary to nourish your body, mind, and spirit during what is undoubtedly an immensely stressful time.
Michael, when I met you several months ago at Halloween I was taken aback at how thin you were. But you had told me you were beginning to prepare a tour, and so I assumed perhaps your slight frame was the result of preparation. At that time you spoke about the concerts with a sparkle of anticipation in your voice, a spirit of exuberance, a light in your eyes like I had not seen for years. I was happy that you were happy. But now seeing you again in Los Angeles these past several weeks I am concerned your spirit seems broken, and your weight has fallen further. When I met you in the dance studio I was shocked at how thin you have become, when we hugged I felt there was not enough of you. If the concerts have become too much, too many, too stressful, please know you are not alone and you could never ever disappoint us should you feel it impossible to carry through. If the concerts are somehow jeopardizing your health, your health and well-being absolutely must come first. We could not enjoy a concert knowing you were suffering through it. Please do not feel obligated to us to perform beyond your desire, beyond your capability. This is not to say I doubt you for even a second, but I’m only worried that your weight is drastically low and am afraid for your life as you are about to expend an incredible amount of energy over the coming months.
I hope I haven’t offended you in any way with any of these words. I love you so much and I only dare to say what I have out of care and concern. You have seemed somewhat sad, overly stressed, and super skinny recently and I just want you to know that you are loved and I am praying for your health and happiness. I hope that you are actually perfectly alright and my worries are simply paranoia from having seen you on days when perhaps you weren’t feeling your best. Michael Amir, Alberto, and Faheem have begun restricting access to you more severely in recent weeks so it has not been easy to ask how you are doing and give our love and prayers. Please forgive us if we have upset you but we are worried.
I’m so looking forward to seeing you again in London. I love you and ask that you please take care of yourself - for yourself, your children, your fans, your family, and all those the world over who love you deeply and dearly from the very bottom of our hearts. We want to love you for many more years to come.
I Love You Always & Forever,
Sandy
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I am sure that he read it and now consider it my final goodbye to Michael.
It is with complete confidence that I say Michael did not trust or like AEG/Randy Phillips, but he felt enslaved financially to their demands because of their role in re-financing his life. We saw Randy Phillips at Michael’s memorial and told him "we know the truth"...he denied that he ever went against Michael's wishes, but Michael told us the truth and naturally we believe Michael. We told Randy "you know that we know the truth"...he was visibly shocked and was without words. I hope he feels an immense amount of regret and guilt, along with anyone/everyone else involved in what I believe pushed Michael to an edge from which he eventually fell.
We have known for many years that Michael was sometimes taking prescription drugs, that he endured phases of addictions over the past decade. The “followers” have witnessed this many times over the years, we have seen and spoken with Michael in altered states, and we have often felt concerned for him. It was not something we ever chose to post on forums or share publicly as it was a private matter for Michael, and we always chose not to jeopardize his privacy. However, those that SUPPLIED, ENABLED, USED, and NEGLECTED him over these years, especially in his last months, should take responsibility for their part in his death. Michael needed help, and instead his “friends” chose to keep him happy and controlled rather than getting him the help he desperately needed. Michael was human like all of us, and like anyone dependent on drugs he needed help. He did not need criminal doctors and friends keeping him medicated so their own greed and profits could be realized.
We also now know many more details that have revealed themselves since Michael’s passing and have given us full confidence in what we know and saw and corroborates our own testimonies. Some have been promised confidential, but it is our hope that the This Is Not It campaign will encourage others to speak the TRUTH they also know.
edit: The photo attached to this note was taken on May 29, 2009, 3 weeks before Michael passed. It is very evident he is very underweight, and he continued to lose weight even after this picture. It is most evident in his face, jaw and neck. You will also see in the This Is It movie that Michael was almost aways wearing THREE shirts AND a jacket to conceal his small frame in his last weeks.
MJ & Sandy
May 29, 2009
SAMANTHA'S TESTIMONY
I don’t know where to begin with my testimony. There is simply too much to say and so many feelings involved, feelings of sadness, regret, anger, confusion and helplessness. However, I need to share my story with the rest of you, for what it’s worth. It won’t bring Michael back and the vultures around him will keep fighting for whatever is left of him and his estate. This campaign we are putting together isn’t to try and stop the unstoppable, but to simply do Michael justice by telling who we can that he wasn’t well and that he DID reach out to us and that we owe him at least the truth by telling you what he told and showed us in th elast few weeks of his life. Whether he expressed his anguish and distress in words or in obvious physical and mental states, I believe (and I am not alone) that he was crying out for help and no-one around him came to his rescue, blinded by greed, fear, self-interest, disregard or even lack of compassion.
I have been a fan for over 20 years but only over the last 8 months of Michael’s life had I become what is called a “follower”. By that meaning I followed Michael on a regular if not daily basis. I got to see where he went and how he was and the people around him. I got to see his physical and mental state and how quickly things deteriorated in the last few weeks/months of his life. This is my recollection of the events preceding his death and how some of us, including myself, knew he was running out of time and was in great danger. We tried to intervene but we were too late.
In November 2008, Michael who was then staying at the Bel-Air hotel, met with a group of us outside and spoke to us for quite a while and he was kind enough to bring us food from his favorite restaurant which he had ordered for himself too that evening. He looked great and was very calm, very clear and lucid. There was obviously nothing “wrong” with him that evening. He spoke to us about many things and hinted at many projects coming up. At that time we had no idea that concerts were in the works. In the next few weeks Michael had many meetings at that hotel, meetings which now we know were about the Tour.
After the 02 concerts were announced in March, Michael began rehearsing at Center Staging between April and May. It is around that we started seeing a pattern in the increased visits to Dr. Klein’s office. The increase in visits and their duration began to alarm me and some others, especially when we began noticing the effects they had on him. He would start leaving the facility looking "groggy". We began realizing the procedures must have involved mind-altering substances.
It reached the point where some of us commented that it was pointless to give him fan letters and gifts after doctor’s visits as he would just send them back out signed, even though they were clearly letters addressed to him and not pictures from autograph hunters.
Something alarmed me more than usual on Saturday, April 25th,2009. It was the first time Michael went to see Dr. Klein on a week-end and it was late. He stayed there from 5pm-9.30pm.
When he came out from Klein’s office Michael smelled very strongly of I would say either rubbing alcohol or Ether and looked groggy.
On May 29th, Michael brought some of us in to Center Staging to talk to us about what was going on (after some fans told him they couldn’t get tickets to the concerts and how the ticket sales didn’t make sense and how things seemed to be a mess and was he aware of it). He told us he wasn’t aware of the problem, that he wasn’t aware that it was a seated venue and that he would do something about it. He told us he had gone to bed thinking it was 10 concerts and woke up finding out it was 50! He said “They did it without my consent. They just did it for obvious reasons”. He added “They did the schedule wrong too. It was supposed to be day, show off, day, show off, day, show off”. (He meant show, day off, show, day off).
His voice was breaking as he was going to start crying and he put his hands together in a prayer position and stood quietly. We were quiet with him. It was a very intense moment and filled with, in my opinion, sadness and worry.
I left feeling like our worries were validated and so did most of us there.
Unfortunately, the day after Michael made this statement it came out in the press. We don't know, but AEG was quick to refute it and call it a lie.
This also coincides with the timing of everything changing for the small group of us who used to have open contact with Michael.
After AEG found out about Michael’s statement to us everything changed.
Security shut us out and Michael stopped being as “available”.
With restricted access (although we still saw got to see him and somewhat speak to him) the doctor’s visits became more frequent and we noticed more of a physical change in him, especially his weight. He just looked too skinny and something felt wrong overall. Even his security guards’ attitudes and ways changed.
On June 1st Michael started rehearsals at the Forum in Inglewood
A couple of weeks into it, Michael Amir (Michael’s personal assistant and security) said that Michael was very tired, that he hadn't slept the entire week-end and that AEG kept on calling him all the time.
It was around that time that Michael would go to rehearsals later and later and sometimes cancel.
One of those times was on June 12th. Michael went late to rehearsals. On arrival there he didn’t stop for us the way he usually did. Shortly afterward his security came to see where we were, driving by our cars a block away where we usually parked and waited. They made no attempt to tell us what they were doing. This was about 8-9pm. At around midnight one of his security guards called “Biggie”, came out and told us: “Michael says this is “dangerous” (?!) and that “Michael didn’t want to go to rehearsals tonight”, “he’s tired”. And then we were asked to line up one by one and that we would get to have 15 seconds each alone with Michael. It all felt awkward for all of us involved. We didn’t understand what was going on but of course we did line up and had our time individually. It was very impersonal and we were being closely monitored by his security.
In the last few days of Michael’s life I also remember noticing his security guard Alberto Alvarez often looking very agitated and breaking into a nervous sweat. He would tell us, when questioning him on whether Michael was okay or not, that Michael was “focused” and in “tour mode” and not actually answering the question. Yet we could see it was more than that, that Michael had become increasingly altered, groggy and emaciated and that his security was nervous about something. In fact, instead of having 2-3 guards behind the gates at his house, it doubled and tripled and I even counted up to 12 of them on the night he died.
Something was up, something had changed and we knew it was time to act.
In an attempt to do an intervention to save his life, a couple of dozen fans (including myself) wrote letters to Michael the week before his death. It was out intention to give him the letters and to make a statement on behalf of all the fans who felt something was wrong.
We knew it was a matter of time before he died unless an action was taken. No-one else around him seemed to care enough to do it. Once all the letters were collected and a plan was in place, we decided to intervene on June 24th, 2009.
We did in fact manage to get them in his hands that afternoon. That night would be the last time I’d see him, leaving Staples Center at around 1.30 am on June 25th,2009.
This was my letter to him:
“Michael,
I have admired and loved you since the age of 14 when you first saved my life. You have kept saving it throughout the years, as blunt and odd as it may sound to someone who doesn’t even “know” me. You kept me going and gave me hope and strength. .
Now it’s my turn, all of our turns, to reach out to YOU and tell you we’re here or you and that we want to help.
Please understand we love you so much we can’t afford to lose you. You mean so much it hurts to see you unhappy the way we have seen you for a while, as hard as you’ve tried to hide it. We feel and see something is wrong.
Michael, don’t ever do anything you DON’T want to do, whether it be concerts or anything-else people want you to do to make money.
Don’t let anyone or anything stress you to the point where you lose sleep, worry or do whatever else that ultimately affects your health. None of it is worth it and you don’t need to prove yourself.
You’ve paid your dues, more than once.
I need you and love you so deeply and truly, we all do.
Samantha”
Finally I want to end this by making something very clear. I am not saying Michael seemed high or groggy all the time. I want that to be understood. We did NOT perceive him as a junkie. We were just concerned (during a certain period of time) that he was too stressed and too pressured to be able to eat and function without medication and that people around him knew he was unwell and chose to close their eyes for profit, and God knows what other reason. But I know what I saw and I know it wasn’t a healthy, happy, fit man ready to go onstage less than 3 weeks later, and they know it too. It’s time for the truth to come out.
Samantha
MJ & Sam
May 29, 2009
TALIN Testimony
Dear fans,
I live in LA and was consistently around Michael during his stay here in the last 8 months of his life. On days that I was not present, other “followers” were always around, so please take our testimonies seriously since collectively we saw Michael everyday and collectively our concerns were the same.
In my opinion, there are only two theories about Michael’s death:
1) Michael was being controlled, under pressure, being overworked, and his needs were being neglected. In addition to this, he was intentionally murdered and those responsible for this are more than just Dr. Murray.
2) Michael was being controlled, under pressure, being overworked, and his needs were being neglected. He was accidentally murdered by Dr. Murray.
The first part of both theories is FACT and while others may convince themselves that he was “fine”, I cannot lie to myself and ignore what I personally experienced in the last weeks of his life.
It’s very clear that Michael initially decided on these shows for financial reasons, though once the concerts were announced I noticed him excited about the whole record breaking project. In the first couple of months of rehearsals he seemed happy with things, asked us if we were surprised by the press conference and would ask us about songs we wanted to hear. But in the last 3 or 4 weeks things gradually turned downhill, the excitement was not always there, and after a while we finally realized something was wrong. Here are my FACTS:
On May 29th, the last day of rehearsals at Center Staging, a few of us went inside the studio and talked to Michael. It was actually he who wanted to talk to us. He first apologized about the seating arrangements for the concerts then expressed “the seating and the dates were done without my consent”. He said he was doing these shows for us and wanted to do it the way we wanted him to. He seemed unhappy about the way things were going and at some point his voice cracked like he was going to cry. He said that he’s only one person and only has so much energy…… Later that night we met him at a different location where we took pictures with him. Michael was half sitting inside the car and I was kind of leaning on him. I put my hand on his leg to push myself up and all I felt was bone. No, not like he was just skinny, more like he was nothing but a skeleton. It REALLY alarmed me and that’s when I first thought something was wrong. My personal letters to him from then on voiced concerns, not telling him anything specific but just asking him to think of his health and happiness first. Prior to this I had wondered when he would start putting weight on like he had during previous tours, but since he usually wore layers of oversized clothes, it was hard to tell just how think he was. Still with these facts to worry about, this is when his hair went curly, preparations were moving along and the concert hype was peaking. So I thought ‘well, maybe I’m overreacting. He has a month, maybe things will get sorted out’. And his first rehearsal at the Forum the following week was promising since we heard him singing so I thought it could all be coming together. I was still concerned but not worried that he was in danger.
June 12th is when Michael’s security started to act weird and started keeping us away from him by taking extreme measures. Their actions were absolutely unnecessary considering the fact that at any given time there were no more than 10 or 12 of us there and these were people that he knew and trusted as did his security. In the next couple of weeks so many reasons for this ran through my head. 1) As the guards kept saying, he was in “concert mode” and was probably trying to build up the hysteria. 2) He was groggy and didn’t want us to see and notice. 3) Concert promoters had found out that he was confiding in us and complaining to us and somehow this was being leaked to the press and they instructed the guards to make sure we have no contact with him. 4) Maybe he just didn’t want to be bothered and had started to feel unsafe (possible, but strange given the timing and other factors).
Michael frequently visited Dr. Klein’s office and at times came out of there groggy.
I always wondered why he was going there but never did I feel I had the right to ask. I assumed it was some kind of skin treatment but it bothered me that he was in there for hours (sometimes as long as 5 hours) and it bothered me that he was being put under. Never did I suspect he was going there to sleep and again, I did not feel like it was my place to ask nor would I have gotten any kind of an answer from anyone.
June 16th was the last time I saw him outside Dr. Klein’s office (even though I believe he went there once more before his death).
Among all the fans that were around him that day, we came to the conclusion that he was groggy when he first left the house and he was groggy when he left Dr. Klein’s office. He then went home for a while before going to rehearsal and he was groggy again after rehearsal. That night, 6 of us gathered with different scenarios. This is when we thought something was seriously wrong. We thought that maybe Michael was being drugged against his will to continue with rehearsals and not object. We thought he was being controlled by either AEG or the NOI or both. We started to make accusations about his staff and others involved with the shows and tried to think of what we could do. We knew of someone that was inside the forum but not involved with the concerts. I suggested we ask that person inside how Michael was doing when on stage and one of my friend said “Michael hasn’t been on stage for the past 3 rehearsals” (the past 3 rehearsals being June 11th, 12th, and 16th). The next day I asked Alberto, the head security, how Michael was doing with rehearsals and if he was happy and healthy. Alberto’s response was extremely positive. Of course he was lying since Michael hadn’t been on stage recently so he couldn’t have been doing “great”. Yes, maybe there were days when he was not needed on stage but not this close to opening night and not for 3 consecutive rehearsals.
June 21st was when I saw Marika’s email about what she had seen and how concerned she was about his weight. Without hesitation we teamed up to get our letters to Michael. Many fans now are blaming us for not including everyone. Please, please keep in mind that not all fans see eye to eye and had we opened this up for discussion, many would have attacked us for over exaggerating and seeking attention. Also keep in mind that this all happened in just a couple of days… On the 22nd there was no rehearsal. The 23rd was his first day at Staple Center and we tried to give the letters but unnecessary security measures made it impossible. On the 24th, by careful planning we were successful but clearly too late. I hand wrote my letter so I don’t have a copy of it to share. It was similar to other letters. Without doubting his abilities, I begged him to take care of himself and do what’s best for him, his family and his health and not to worry about us, the world, or his finances. Hours after we last saw him, he was dead. So for those people that doubt us, or question our intentions, or say that we are exaggerating what we experienced, do you think this was all a coincidence? Do you think the fact that we all panicked, worried, and took action, then had our worst expectation become reality was just chance? While the blame may only be put on Dr. Murray, the REAL cause of Michael Jackson’s death may remain a mystery forever. What IS fact is that Michael was not okay in the last weeks of his life but everyone around him chose to ignore that since they thought the show must go on! Yes, Michael was murdered accidentally or intentionally and by propofol. I’m not saying that His weight or previous drug use played a role in his death. What I’m trying to get across is that AEG is making it seem like he was perfectly fine and healthy up until the point when Dr. Murray overmedicated him, but we saw otherwise. So is AEG hiding more, covering up their tracks, by releasing this perfectly edited documentary? Is someone else behind it all? We may never know the truth but now you all know what I noticed, what we all noticed and tried to act on in the last days of his life.
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by 4evermichael71 Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:36 am
hmmmm...
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by TheKiddNerd Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:42 am
This is quite interesting.
It makes you wonder....
It makes you wonder....
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by 4evermichael71 Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:49 am
They still think he's gone...they're the This-Is-Not-It Bunch headed up by Karen Faye?
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by CantStopLovingU Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:59 am
4evermichael71 wrote:They still think he's gone...they're the This-Is-Not-It Bunch headed up by Karen Faye?
No not that I can see. Looks like they are trying to loop her into this cause because I see alot of messages from the This is It page to Karen - all of which I can see because I am on Karens friends list.
Now either this is true OR this was the wheels in motion to set the stage for the hoax.
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by hAZZELY Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:01 am
4evermichael71 wrote:They still think he's gone...they're the This-Is-Not-It Bunch headed up by Karen Faye?
How do you know this is not true? It's quite sad and reliable...I don't think everyone is lying here..
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by 4evermichael71 Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:02 am
CantStopLovingU wrote:4evermichael71 wrote:They still think he's gone...they're the This-Is-Not-It Bunch headed up by Karen Faye?
No not that I can see. Looks like they are trying to loop her into this cause because I see alot of messages from the This is It page to Karen - all of which I can see because I am on Karens friends list.
Now either this is true OR this was the wheels in motion to set the stage for the hoax.
hmmm...perplexing, I must give this more thought then..
I do agree that he didn't weigh 136 pounds then...Maybe he does now if he got help, but not then...How did the fan girls get so close to him to get him to open up like that?
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by 4evermichael71 Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:05 am
hAZZELY wrote:4evermichael71 wrote:They still think he's gone...they're the This-Is-Not-It Bunch headed up by Karen Faye?
How do you know this is not true? It's quite sad and reliable...I don't think everyone is lying here..
I'm not saying they're lying. I am saying they think he's gone via murder. I could once upon a time see their point because it all seems to play out that if Michael didn't leave he was going to die.
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by rowdyangel Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:13 am
These people could be anybody. I'm very suspicious. And I don't believe for one minute that Michael would talk about his fears, worries and hatred of AEG to fans. I doubt that his fans were ever able to get THAT close to him.
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by 4evermichael71 Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:14 am
@rowdyangel-I feel the same way.
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by amber Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:17 am
I dont no what to think about that, am i blind? please be honest in case im kidding myself but i see mj as slim in an old kind of way if you no what i mean, i dont look at him and think god he's anorexic...those red pants in footage are skin tight that armed with oversize jacket makes it look like he's skinny. JMAO...
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by rowdyangel Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:19 am
Amber, I agree with you. I certainly don't think Michael was anorexic and skeletal, not from the TII pictures I've seen anyway.
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by 4evermichael71 Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:20 am
amber wrote:I dont no what to think about that, am i blind? please be honest in case im kidding myself but i see mj as slim in an old kind of way if you no what i mean, i dont look at him and think god he's anorexic...those red pants in footage are skin tight that armed with oversize jacket makes it look like he's skinny. JMAO...
No, I don't think you're kidding yourself. I don't think he weighed 136 but I don't think he is anorexic either. If he was emaciated, he couldn't perform at all...jmo
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by dancer1792 Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:21 am
@rowdyangel &4evermichael71
I agree as well. It is hard to trust someone on the internet. You never know who he/she is or if he/she is being completely honest.
I agree as well. It is hard to trust someone on the internet. You never know who he/she is or if he/she is being completely honest.
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by lou Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:30 am
While reading this testimony, the following thought crossed my mind: if MJ was really that frail and his fans got so worried about him, someone of his family should have known about his condition. His mother, for example. It's just my opinion though. I don't say these fans are lying, I just think that if some fans got so close to him and noticed he was not ok, and if these fans got so worried, someone from his family would have noticed the same and would have done something. When we were told that MJ had died, I remember that family members told the press that he was healthy and died unexpectedely. Once again, things just don't add up! 
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by Harleyblonde Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:34 am
rowdyangel wrote:These people could be anybody. I'm very suspicious. And I don't believe for one minute that Michael would talk about his fears, worries and hatred of AEG to fans. I doubt that his fans were ever able to get THAT close to him.
I agree and the photo of him in the car with the dark haired Lady is a fake, I have seen the exact same photo of a blonde sat there insted of the brunette, also the size and proportion of their faces dont even match. If they can just plant a fake photograph like this then I would take all what they say with a pinch of salt.
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by queenpanther55 Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:51 am
I have to ask myself then how coincidence that is that Michael happens to die in his home. That he died right before the fans knew whats wrong about him.
WHAT IS WRONG with MICHAEL being thin anyway? Not because he was thin and skeletal could mean his Brain and Talent is also disabled?
Steve Job CEO of Apple Mac have just recovered from his dreaded illness, now completely different of what he looks like before and after his operation. But that doesnt stop him into working. What makes it different from Michael Jackson?
MJ knows his capabilities. He worked so hard for this. If he does not eat maybe because he doesnt want to or hes not hungry. How does it makes difference to ordinary people like us, when we worked overtime, we also forget to eat.
I dont think he doesnt trust Dr Klein as his dermatologist.
I dont think he is not aware of whats going on his physical body.
I dont think he wouldnt consult a doctor of his health problems.
We are talking about a Genius entertainer here. Talking about abused , i think he has learned a lot from the very beginning - his father- and some from the past who took advantage of him. What possible reason could we think, if until now he hasnt learn his lessons?
Michael may have studied everything before settling with AEG. This is something he may have planned for years. (recall the interview he have had with Diane Sawyer (LMP and MJ Part 5), He wanted a documentary, a kind of film that can grab the worlds attention. He wanted the media to take into his world and fall on his trap. (History Video)
Sorry, but the whole testimony is very childish. Its ok to be very concern, but come on, theres a bunch of people around Michael Jackson, I dont think they are all blind not to see if something is wrong. I dont think not one of them thought about it, perhaps, everyone in there just want money?
The deal is , Michael Jackson was very busy at that time. He mean to finish the show on the 25th because he planned for it. If incase he didnt show up in rehearsals maybe because he was too tired. Or there was no schedule for him to come. He will completely be there on the 24th with finishing touch. As MJ tried to restrict these followers, they began to panicked.
MJ might have been concerned about the followers attacked because of their concerns. the fact that some information was leaked, he may have given the advice to set a little time that the usual time for them. now the followers was overreacting, and at some point MJ has become worried, that needs more securities at the moment.
Thats how i understand the whole scenario. If MJ died just like that, I dont think we are to see his new film and new music. The family would have wanted to set aside that first and settle the mystery of his death before anything else. Anywat whats in a hurry?
WHAT IS WRONG with MICHAEL being thin anyway? Not because he was thin and skeletal could mean his Brain and Talent is also disabled?
Steve Job CEO of Apple Mac have just recovered from his dreaded illness, now completely different of what he looks like before and after his operation. But that doesnt stop him into working. What makes it different from Michael Jackson?
MJ knows his capabilities. He worked so hard for this. If he does not eat maybe because he doesnt want to or hes not hungry. How does it makes difference to ordinary people like us, when we worked overtime, we also forget to eat.
I dont think he doesnt trust Dr Klein as his dermatologist.
I dont think he is not aware of whats going on his physical body.
I dont think he wouldnt consult a doctor of his health problems.
We are talking about a Genius entertainer here. Talking about abused , i think he has learned a lot from the very beginning - his father- and some from the past who took advantage of him. What possible reason could we think, if until now he hasnt learn his lessons?
Michael may have studied everything before settling with AEG. This is something he may have planned for years. (recall the interview he have had with Diane Sawyer (LMP and MJ Part 5), He wanted a documentary, a kind of film that can grab the worlds attention. He wanted the media to take into his world and fall on his trap. (History Video)
Sorry, but the whole testimony is very childish. Its ok to be very concern, but come on, theres a bunch of people around Michael Jackson, I dont think they are all blind not to see if something is wrong. I dont think not one of them thought about it, perhaps, everyone in there just want money?
The deal is , Michael Jackson was very busy at that time. He mean to finish the show on the 25th because he planned for it. If incase he didnt show up in rehearsals maybe because he was too tired. Or there was no schedule for him to come. He will completely be there on the 24th with finishing touch. As MJ tried to restrict these followers, they began to panicked.
MJ might have been concerned about the followers attacked because of their concerns. the fact that some information was leaked, he may have given the advice to set a little time that the usual time for them. now the followers was overreacting, and at some point MJ has become worried, that needs more securities at the moment.
Thats how i understand the whole scenario. If MJ died just like that, I dont think we are to see his new film and new music. The family would have wanted to set aside that first and settle the mystery of his death before anything else. Anywat whats in a hurry?
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by lou Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:56 am
Harleyblonde wrote:rowdyangel wrote:These people could be anybody. I'm very suspicious. And I don't believe for one minute that Michael would talk about his fears, worries and hatred of AEG to fans. I doubt that his fans were ever able to get THAT close to him.
I agree and the photo of him in the car with the dark haired Lady is a fake, I have seen the exact same photo of a blonde sat there insted of the brunette, also the size and proportion of their faces dont even match. If they can just plant a fake photograph like this then I would take all what they say with a pinch of salt.
Very well said!
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by CantStopLovingU Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:57 am
So many of you posted such good insights ...
I dont think these fans were just anybody - they were part of the group of followers, fans who followed Michael everywhere and became his friends.
We seem to have two completely conflicting stories about Michael's "last" days and weeks. I wonder what This is It will reveal because I am sure we will be able to see what Michael's physical condition was when we watch it, on the other hand we have all been suspicious of Randy, AEG and TT and others.
It may just be that much of this was really true, and maybe Michael knew exactly what they were all up to and because of that had no choice but to hoax his death.
We already know that Michael was afraid for his life, we heard him say so in his own voice more than once. Whatever the outcome, something was not right.
I dont think these fans were just anybody - they were part of the group of followers, fans who followed Michael everywhere and became his friends.
We seem to have two completely conflicting stories about Michael's "last" days and weeks. I wonder what This is It will reveal because I am sure we will be able to see what Michael's physical condition was when we watch it, on the other hand we have all been suspicious of Randy, AEG and TT and others.
It may just be that much of this was really true, and maybe Michael knew exactly what they were all up to and because of that had no choice but to hoax his death.
We already know that Michael was afraid for his life, we heard him say so in his own voice more than once. Whatever the outcome, something was not right.
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by rowdyangel Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:01 pm
"Fans who followed Michael everywhere and became his friends".
Sorry but I disagree with this so strongly. Maybe they are fans, maybe they did follow him everywhere, but becoming friends with him - wishful thinking. I just don't buy it.
Interesting post though. Thanks for sharing.
Sorry but I disagree with this so strongly. Maybe they are fans, maybe they did follow him everywhere, but becoming friends with him - wishful thinking. I just don't buy it.
Interesting post though. Thanks for sharing.
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by city.gal1 Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:14 pm
I'm not sure what to make of these postings but I will say that where one of them mentions that MJ is wearing 2 or 3 layers I've noticed this myself in the pics and found it odd that he would be rehearsing with all those layers on under hot studio/stage lights. I'm not saying he was/n't anorexic just that I think it is odd.
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by ilprincipe Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:17 pm
Oh no...not again....I'm so tired of these followers....
this is so pathetic...
stop these stalkers....they just suck and contaminate the web with
their crap....
this is so pathetic...
stop these stalkers....they just suck and contaminate the web with
their crap....
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by marsheliamorgan Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:30 pm
somewhere there is a video or such that states michael ALWAYS had the fireplaces lit in his homes as he WAS always cold.so that could account for the extra layers of clothes,in so far as possibly rehearsal hall extremly cool to keep down the overheating when dancing(just a thought)also,i was wondering,COULD michael have used these fans/followers as a witness type circle of people to keep the inconsistances going?and worked them INTO the hoax? ON PURPOSE? just an idea
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by mjssoulmate Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:38 pm
To me Michael looked not much skinnier than usual during rehearsals. I'm not sure what to believe anymore. But if these fangirls are telling the truth and Michael did receive and read those letters, maybe that's what got the wheels for his death hoax in motion. Perhaps he realized that he had to get the hell out of there.
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by city.gal1 Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:01 pm
marsheliamorgan wrote:somewhere there is a video or such that states michael ALWAYS had the fireplaces lit in his homes as he WAS always cold.so that could account for the extra layers of clothes,in so far as possibly rehearsal hall extremly cool to keep down the overheating when dancing(just a thought)also,i was wondering,COULD michael have used these fans/followers as a witness type circle of people to keep the inconsistances going?and worked them INTO the hoax? ON PURPOSE? just an idea
Being cold and/or airconditioning would be a reason for the extra layers but it is true that anorexics hide under layers (not saying MJ was). Personally, I feel that he was not well and therefore cold and the extra layers.
The news reports did say that his room was supposedly very hot with the fireplace on. I don't know if the reports said that this was always the case but what went through my mind at the time was that the room was puposefully kept that hot so that his body wouldn't cool down too fast if he, was indeed, dead and someone needed to buy time before making the 911 call.
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by Human_nature Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:02 pm
Followers is a "cute" word for Stalkers
They are like paparazzi...
It's possible Michael didn't eat enough, buut that dosen't mean he's anorexic. I don't eat enough or I forget to eat sometimes when I have many things to think ect.......
I never eat alot, I'm like a little bird. But I'm not anorexic.
it's a huge difference.
I've been very skinny in the past, when I had huge stress in my life. Some people thought I was anorexic. So....
They are like paparazzi...
It's possible Michael didn't eat enough, buut that dosen't mean he's anorexic. I don't eat enough or I forget to eat sometimes when I have many things to think ect.......
I never eat alot, I'm like a little bird. But I'm not anorexic.
it's a huge difference.
I've been very skinny in the past, when I had huge stress in my life. Some people thought I was anorexic. So....
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by Do Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:30 pm
June 12th is when Michael’s security started to act weird and started keeping us away from him by taking extreme measures. Their actions were absolutely unnecessary considering the fact that at any given time there were no more than 10 or 12 of us there and these were people that he knew and trusted as did his security. In the next couple of weeks so many reasons for this ran through my head. 1) As the guards kept saying, he was in “concert mode” and was probably trying to build up the hysteria. 2) He was groggy and didn’t want us to see and notice. 3) Concert promoters had found out that he was confiding in us and complaining to us and somehow this was being leaked to the press and they instructed the guards to make sure we have no contact with him. 4) Maybe he just didn’t want to be bothered and had started to feel unsafe (possible, but strange given the timing and other factors).
Michael frequently visited Dr. Klein’s office and at times came out of there groggy.
Reading the above, maybe the followers weren't allowed to come near michael because it wasn't michael himself...
Michael frequently visited Dr. Klein’s office and at times came out of there groggy.
Reading the above, maybe the followers weren't allowed to come near michael because it wasn't michael himself...
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by amber Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:34 pm
Either 'groggy' mj wasn't the real mj or someone is feeding us ridiculous info again cos we are getting too close the truth! Either Way Its Not Working... 
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by ishealive Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:38 pm
We'll find out in 2 weeks time, i'm not going to buy into anything until I see it for myself. MJ looked in control in the trailor not a sick frail old man, he wasn't stupid and he had 3 kids to look after so I highly doubt he did all this to himself with a sound mind!
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by amber Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:55 pm
100% agreedishealive wrote:We'll find out in 2 weeks time, i'm not going to buy into anything until I see it for myself. MJ looked in control in the trailor not a sick frail old man, he wasn't stupid and he had 3 kids to look after so I highly doubt he did all this to himself with a sound mind!
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by dunno_it Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:05 pm
Harleyblonde wrote:rowdyangel wrote:These people could be anybody. I'm very suspicious. And I don't believe for one minute that Michael would talk about his fears, worries and hatred of AEG to fans. I doubt that his fans were ever able to get THAT close to him.
I agree and the photo of him in the car with the dark haired Lady is a fake, I have seen the exact same photo of a blonde sat there insted of the brunette, also the size and proportion of their faces dont even match. If they can just plant a fake photograph like this then I would take all what they say with a pinch of salt.
totally agree, , look at the size of this girl's head and the size with mj's head, a man's head can't be that small. this pic is so photoshopped...
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by Harleyblonde Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:11 pm
dunno_it wrote:Harleyblonde wrote:rowdyangel wrote:These people could be anybody. I'm very suspicious. And I don't believe for one minute that Michael would talk about his fears, worries and hatred of AEG to fans. I doubt that his fans were ever able to get THAT close to him.
I agree and the photo of him in the car with the dark haired Lady is a fake, I have seen the exact same photo of a blonde sat there insted of the brunette, also the size and proportion of their faces dont even match. If they can just plant a fake photograph like this then I would take all what they say with a pinch of salt.
totally agree, , look at the size of this girl's head and the size with mj's head, a man's head can't be that small. this pic is so photoshopped...
Most definetely, the things people will stoop to for some attention is beyond belief-have they no shame? They have totally no respect for the many fans and it sickens me. I hope MJ doesn't see this as surely it will sadden him to know that his fans are fed BS like this. Totally disgusting!!
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by 4evermichael71 Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:18 pm
ilprincipe wrote:Oh no...not again....I'm so tired of these followers....
this is so pathetic...
stop these stalkers....they just suck and contaminate the web with
their crap....
Kudos! My thoughts exactly!!
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by 4evermichael71 Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:21 pm
Human_nature wrote:Followers is a "cute" word for Stalkers
They are like paparazzi...
It's possible Michael didn't eat enough, buut that dosen't mean he's anorexic. I don't eat enough or I forget to eat sometimes when I have many things to think ect.......
I never eat alot, I'm like a little bird. But I'm not anorexic.
it's a huge difference.
I've been very skinny in the past, when I had huge stress in my life. Some people thought I was anorexic. So....
Same here. I dropped 12 pounds in a week from new medication and family was on a freak out about it..I don't eat when I'm stressing either..it doesn't mean it's anorexia.
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by 4evermichael71 Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:23 pm
Harleyblonde wrote:dunno_it wrote:Harleyblonde wrote:rowdyangel wrote:These people could be anybody. I'm very suspicious. And I don't believe for one minute that Michael would talk about his fears, worries and hatred of AEG to fans. I doubt that his fans were ever able to get THAT close to him.
I agree and the photo of him in the car with the dark haired Lady is a fake, I have seen the exact same photo of a blonde sat there insted of the brunette, also the size and proportion of their faces dont even match. If they can just plant a fake photograph like this then I would take all what they say with a pinch of salt.
totally agree, , look at the size of this girl's head and the size with mj's head, a man's head can't be that small. this pic is so photoshopped...
Most definetely, the things people will stoop to for some attention is beyond belief-have they no shame? They have totally no respect for the many fans and it sickens me. I hope MJ doesn't see this as surely it will sadden him to know that his fans are fed BS like this. Totally disgusting!!
Oh yeah, this reeks of photoshop!
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by 4evermichael71 Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:24 pm
ishealive wrote:We'll find out in 2 weeks time, i'm not going to buy into anything until I see it for myself. MJ looked in control in the trailor not a sick frail old man, he wasn't stupid and he had 3 kids to look after so I highly doubt he did all this to himself with a sound mind!
EXACTLY!!
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by Red Velvet Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:33 pm
I agree with a lot of what you have said here. I also do feel Michael may have been doing a lot of pain management because he does have back problems, and was "taxed" quite a bit physically. I believe he would visit Klein's office for that and maybe to be 'put under' for a while, because I also believe Michael's mind never stops and that he was "deathly" afraid of Tohme who looks dark and scary even to me from a camera shot. I think when pain management drugs get out of control (and they easily do) a person's sense of self-care is thrown off balance. I believe he was losing weight rapidly for whatever reason. I also believe that he saw in the mirror the same horrifying (to him) things that horrified his fans who had been following him for 15 years and I do believe he read their letters. I feel it is for that reason (in part) that he did do something to change course, plot his 'escape' or however one wants to say it.queenpanther55 wrote:I have to ask myself then how coincidence that is that Michael happens to die in his home. That he died right before the fans knew whats wrong about him.
WHAT IS WRONG with MICHAEL being thin anyway? Not because he was thin and skeletal could mean his Brain and Talent is also disabled?
Steve Job CEO of Apple Mac have just recovered from his dreaded illness, now completely different of what he looks like before and after his operation. But that doesnt stop him into working. What makes it different from Michael Jackson?
MJ knows his capabilities. He worked so hard for this. If he does not eat maybe because he doesnt want to or hes not hungry. How does it makes difference to ordinary people like us, when we worked overtime, we also forget to eat.
I dont think he doesnt trust Dr Klein as his dermatologist.
I dont think he is not aware of whats going on his physical body.
I dont think he wouldnt consult a doctor of his health problems.
We are talking about a Genius entertainer here. Talking about abused , i think he has learned a lot from the very beginning - his father- and some from the past who took advantage of him. What possible reason could we think, if until now he hasnt learn his lessons?
Michael may have studied everything before settling with AEG. This is something he may have planned for years. (recall the interview he have had with Diane Sawyer (LMP and MJ Part 5), He wanted a documentary, a kind of film that can grab the worlds attention. He wanted the media to take into his world and fall on his trap. (History Video)
Sorry, but the whole testimony is very childish. Its ok to be very concern, but come on, theres a bunch of people around Michael Jackson, I dont think they are all blind not to see if something is wrong. I dont think not one of them thought about it, perhaps, everyone in there just want money?
The deal is , Michael Jackson was very busy at that time. He mean to finish the show on the 25th because he planned for it. If incase he didnt show up in rehearsals maybe because he was too tired. Or there was no schedule for him to come. He will completely be there on the 24th with finishing touch. As MJ tried to restrict these followers, they began to panicked.
MJ might have been concerned about the followers attacked because of their concerns. the fact that some information was leaked, he may have given the advice to set a little time that the usual time for them. now the followers was overreacting, and at some point MJ has become worried, that needs more securities at the moment.
Thats how i understand the whole scenario. If MJ died just like that, I dont think we are to see his new film and new music. The family would have wanted to set aside that first and settle the mystery of his death before anything else. Anywat whats in a hurry?
I won't be looking for too much from the movie. They took lots of footage which was enough for Michael to decide to 'dip'. There are a lot of reasons for him to have done so, and I do feel the fans' concerns helped him make that decision with letters given to him on the 24th, to go ahead with changing his direction on the 25th and letting AEG use what they had the best they could which MJ knew was gonna be gangbusters. That's what I believe for now anyway
oh, I also don't believe that Karen Faye is in on anything which is why she is in so much shock and sadness to this day. She spent over 25 years with Michael and was nuts about him so I can see that being her reaction just like most fans are still feeling.
Its the other folks, (parents, children, close friends) who are acting almost like nothing happened.
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by hAZZELY Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:36 pm
4evermichael71 wrote:Harleyblonde wrote:dunno_it wrote:Harleyblonde wrote:rowdyangel wrote:These people could be anybody. I'm very suspicious. And I don't believe for one minute that Michael would talk about his fears, worries and hatred of AEG to fans. I doubt that his fans were ever able to get THAT close to him.
I agree and the photo of him in the car with the dark haired Lady is a fake, I have seen the exact same photo of a blonde sat there insted of the brunette, also the size and proportion of their faces dont even match. If they can just plant a fake photograph like this then I would take all what they say with a pinch of salt.
totally agree, , look at the size of this girl's head and the size with mj's head, a man's head can't be that small. this pic is so photoshopped...
Most definetely, the things people will stoop to for some attention is beyond belief-have they no shame? They have totally no respect for the many fans and it sickens me. I hope MJ doesn't see this as surely it will sadden him to know that his fans are fed BS like this. Totally disgusting!!
Oh yeah, this reeks of photoshop!
I'm not saying all this story is real, but about the pic, you can def. see Michael BEHIND her, so his head has to be autom. SMALLER..if you try to imagine his head closer (at same line with her head) you will notice their heads = . Not everything has to be photoshoped...plus his position, seriously, in my oppinion this pic doesnt scream at us "PHOTOSHOPED" :/ . Maybe this was a pic made time ago, who knows... not everyone knows how to use this kind of programs that well.
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by Red Velvet Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:24 pm
I agree. He is just about dang (no offense to the dark haired lady) he is 1/2 her size! And like it or not he is also a lot thinner than his own normal size. He is holding her hand. This pic does not look photoshopped to me either and I do consider myself to be "photo-shop-paranoid" but this I don't see that way.hAZZELY wrote:4evermichael71 wrote:Harleyblonde wrote:dunno_it wrote:Harleyblonde wrote:rowdyangel wrote:These people could be anybody. I'm very suspicious. And I don't believe for one minute that Michael would talk about his fears, worries and hatred of AEG to fans. I doubt that his fans were ever able to get THAT close to him.
I agree and the photo of him in the car with the dark haired Lady is a fake, I have seen the exact same photo of a blonde sat there insted of the brunette, also the size and proportion of their faces dont even match. If they can just plant a fake photograph like this then I would take all what they say with a pinch of salt.
totally agree, , look at the size of this girl's head and the size with mj's head, a man's head can't be that small. this pic is so photoshopped...
Most definetely, the things people will stoop to for some attention is beyond belief-have they no shame? They have totally no respect for the many fans and it sickens me. I hope MJ doesn't see this as surely it will sadden him to know that his fans are fed BS like this. Totally disgusting!!
Oh yeah, this reeks of photoshop!
I'm not saying all this story is real, but about the pic, you can def. see Michael BEHIND her, so his head has to be autom. SMALLER..if you try to imagine his head closer (at same line with her head) you will notice their heads = . Not everything has to be photoshoped...plus his position, seriously, in my oppinion this pic doesnt scream at us "PHOTOSHOPED" :/ . Maybe this was a pic made time ago, who knows... not everyone knows how to use this kind of programs that well.
If there is another pic that looks almost the same excepting the women in it, its probably simply because all the proportions are the same, afterall, MJ was sitting in the car and all they all did was "take turns".
On another note, I also do know a fan who does know these girls. She was there in front of the house when the ambulance arrived, and dare I say she was sitting in the "red car" lol. There are a lot of fans MJ would talk to when he recognized them, who were there for him on a regular basis. Sorry, sad but true. It means to me that he executed his plan with the utmost urgency. To me that's all it means. It doesn't shoot down anyone's theories. Just know that these girls are aware that their speaking out would gain them a lot of criticism from fellow-fans which is why they didn't say anything on the fan boards. They would have been eaten up faster than a tuna on a cat farm.
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by Janet77 Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:37 pm
CantStopLovingU wrote:I just saw this posted on Facebook.
Some people asked us where we got some of our information. This is one testimony among many, just to prove you we have first hand evidence. Be warned, this will be difficult to read if you hear this for the first time.
Michael could have been helped somehow, even if Murray was the hand that killed him, you have to wonder why Michael Jackson felt the need to take propofol at night, why all these people who worked with him and saw him in an altered state did not realize this could kill him, one way or another. If people like Marika who had such lesser access to him than everyone else, including the promoters, the managers, the crew, if she could see so much as to be worried that he could die, how is it possible THEY did not see it?
It's all about asking the right questions.
MARIKA'S TESTIMONY
"What I witnessed in June"
Hello everyone,
I know some of you won't like what I have to say, but I need to tell my experience so you can all understand.
Some of you may have heard about an email I sent on June 21st. It has ben posted on forums without my consent, and people trashed me, saying I was a liar, was looking for fame (??) and more...
This is why I sent it:
I, with, two other friends, met MJ in his car on March 19th.
We talked about AEG, how he was furious with them, wanting to make money, selling tickets vio Viagogo. He said "I hate to hear stories like that!"
Me and my friend saw a very frail Michael. He had large orange pants. But as he was in the back seat and us, sitting in the front seat, he had his legs between ours. We could see what his leg was really looking like.
He was so skinny.
Michael couldn't stop apologizing for the way he looked: "I'm sorry you have to see me like that, Im so sorry!" He was hiding his face in his hands when saying this.
Anyway, we were a little bit concerned, but thought: Ok, he has 3 months until the shows in London, so he may be working with someone...
3 months later, me and my friend went back to Carolwood, and we witnessed Michael being under influences. But what was weird, is that it was AFTER rehearsals, and not only after Dr Klein's visit. So whatever they were giving to him, he was given (or took himself) at the rehearsals.
That night, Michael had memory loss. He was completly high, as if he was talking in his sleep.
If WE SAW that, don't tell me people around him, talking to him 10 hours a day couldn't see it.
Few days later, Michael invited me and my friend on the set of the Dome project. My friend had made a jacket for him.
He was wearing a Red Balamin jacket, you can see it in the trailer.
My friend gave him her jacket and Michael took it to try it.
He took off his own jacket.
he was wearing white tight pants and a white tight shirt.
For the first time, we realized how much weight he did loose.
I couldnt have wear his jacket.
He really was skinny. And NOT THIN.
The jacket was of course too big for him.
But he was happy and said: Oh how do you know my size?!
Well... take a woman size and it fits.
He kept it. You saw a picture of him wearing it. Dated June 11th.
Of course, you can't really tell by the picture.. But he could close this jacket behind his back literally.
this is why me and my friend sent this email on June 21st. To share our concerns on his health.
I am not saying Michael was dying from a disease.
I am not saying Michael was killed
I am not saying I Know the Truth
I am just saying that WE, fans, felt that MJ could be in danger.
I am just saying that WE, fans, saw how much weight Michael lost.
I am just saying that WE, fans, could see he was under influences.
I am just saying that MICHAEL told the fans he was under a lot of pressure, couldn't eat or sleep.
I am now just asking why they, MJ's ENTOURAGE, keep saying that Michael was in great shape, when anyone else, not working for him, could see he was not?
I am just asking why, just today (2 days after this page is online), A PRESS RELEASE leaked Michael's autopsy saying his weight was 136lbs (even if this is not a lot), with the title "Michael Jackson was healthy" linking everywhere suddenly.
the autopsy reports were not supposed to come out before the end of the investigation.
Someone is getting scared?
I am not saying Michael was killed
I am not saying Michael was sick.
I am just saying to some people:
STOP LYING TO US
STOP TAKING US FOR FOOLS
We saw in what shape Michael was
He told us he was NOT feeling good.
Stop lying.
We already lost him.
Have the guts to admitt the truth and say:
Yes, maybe Michael needed help we didnt provide him.
We should have put more breaks between the shows, just to make him feel less nervous.
We are not saying those people killed him.
But by listening to someone's problem and anxiety, they could have make him feel more relax, he could have eat, sleep better and wouldnt have asked for Propofol.
Therefore, he would still be here.
Thank you.
MJ with my friend jacket
The dome Project / Culver Studio
June 11th 2009
This is the email I sentto MJ fans and Michael's entourage if you wanna read it:
Marika Prochet 21 juin, à 15:21
Dear closest MJ fans,
This is an important message. Some of you are going to hate it. Others will start thinking.
As you may know, few days ago, me and Moon got the luck to be invited on the set of Michael's shooting.
Michael was wearing white pants. Real tights. And a white shirt. Real tight.
As you all know, Michael has been really skinny since the trial. We all talk together and we always say: he is scary skinny.
some of us told him he should eat.
But what Moon and I saw last week horrifed us. He is not scary skinny. He is a skeleton. I saw his back, and wanted to throw up. I never felt a shock like this. And I already knew he was skinny. But this clothes... it was as if he was naked. I was ashamed.
I got out of the set. And what did I told the fans?
"Oh god he is so skinny!" And then, what did I say?
"Oh it was great! yeahhh! I saw Michael on the set! yeah!!!"
I had the same reaction I had since the trial. He is now more than skinny. He is a skeleton. But I can do nothing so let's talk about something else! About how happy I was to meet him.
But to be honnest, I, since this day, feel weird. Like a guilty sensation.
I feel that I witnessed reality. For once, he didnt had a coat on, a big shirt, big trousers. For once, I saw the reality of his situation.
I feel like I already knew but didnt want to accept it.
Honestly, I think I was like everyone of you. We are worried for 5 minutes but then, the only thing we can think about is: I want to see Michael, I want to get a hug, I want to say I love you... I think about myself and my happiness.
But I started to wonder: Michael rehearse everyday, he is surronded by 200 people, that work with him everyday. But who are those people?
Dancers that are living their dream, Kenny Ortega who is producing his best show ever, technicians, Michael security, Michael Bush.. and KAren Faye.
No family, no friends, no one.
Karen is the only one to have love for Michael. So I mailed her. I wanted to know if people were blind or doing nothing?
Here is her answer:
Hi Marika,
I know.
I am doing everything humanly possible...your heart and mine are in the same place.
Please keep this private for his sake.
Love,
Karen
Shanti, Shanti, Shanti
When I read that, I realized I was right.
She is doing something. But what can she do?
As we all know, Michael listen to no one. He does whatever he wants.
And if you know a litlle bit about anorexy, you know that if you tell them to eat, it's completly useless.
So Karen may tell him to eat. He won't.
People in his situation need a shock to start doing something.
So here is my question to all of you:
We all love Michael really much. We all want to see his shows. We all think about how we will be first row. About how we will get more tickets.
About how we will meet him more than the others fans. About getting a picture with him. About not hurting him.
How will you do all of these things if during the third concert he faints on stage, and if his heart stops during his way to the hospital?
How will you feel when you will talk with others fans and will say: We knew he was too skinny to perform 50 shows. We knew he stopped eating during the trial and reheare 10 hours per day for us.
How will you feel when you will say: people said he was doing fine but they lied. We saw he was a skeleton.
Will you feel guilty? Will you be able to sleep at night thinking you knew it and did nothing?
Some of you are going to say:
"He has doctors with him"
"They wouldnt let him dance if he was not healthy"
"I don't want to do something, it would hurt him"
Well let me tell you this:
If he had doctors with him, he would have gained weight.
No one saw Lou Ferrigno somewhere around rehearsals or Michael's house.
On the set, I watched people around Michael. Everyone was avoiding Michael, looking somewhere else. They were all working on their video.
Too many money involved. You dont want to be fired because you told Michael Jackson to eat.
You all know Michael's employees will never take the risk to lose their job. They dont love Michael this much.
And for those who have been to Carolwood, you all know that Michael is completly alone there.
If you get this email, it means you are part of the MJ's fans who know that Michael is not Peter Pan, Michael is not 100% perfect, and that at this day, we are the only ones left who love Michael enough to try to make a difference.
We all saw Michael at his worst, and we all see him still alive.
But just think 5 minutes that this skeleton that Michael has become is going to perform 2 hours every night during 3 months.
Will you be able to do it?
Models die at 18 from anorexia because their heart stop. And they just walk on a catwalk.
Michael is 51. He dances 10 hours per day. And is going to dance 2 hours every night during 3 months.
Do you think he will be ok?
Now that you know, are you going to do something or are you going to fight with other fans to get the best meeting with him?
Please, let's think about the best solution to help him realize. He needs to be shocked by us. We need to make him react.
And unfortunalty, we may have to hurt his feelings somehow.
But if he stays alive, isnt it worth it?
Marika
SANDY's TESTIMONY
Dear fans and friends, and those who deserve the truth…
I have decided to share some letters that I wrote prior to Michael’s death, and the last letter that I wrote to Michael that was given to him just before rehearsal the night before he passed. I choose to do this in support of the This Is Not It campaign, and because I believe Michael would have wanted us to speak his truth now that he is gone, in the same way he always asked us to do through all this years against the allegations, Mottolla-Sony, etc.
This is of course very sad and difficult and not something I ever expected to share so publicly, but now that Michael has passed I feel it is more important to inform and support the TRUTH against the blatant lies and attempted cover-up by those around Michael in his last months. I also feel the need to defend against those that are saying the “followers” are only speaking out after the fact now that Michael is gone. This is not true and we tried our best as far as we were capable “only” being fans. Everything that we are claiming and speaking is truth, and is based on words from MICHAEL HIMSELF, what we ACTUALLY WITNESSED in the months before he passed, along with what we also witnessed about Michael’s “friends” and “doctors” over the past two decades of “following” Michael.
First, an email that I wrote on June 21st, four days before Michael passed. I sent this email to Karen Faye (Michael’s makeup artist) and Michael Bush (Michael’s tailor) who I knew to be around Michael almost daily in the weeks prior to his death and the only members of his entourage I considered trustworthy and true friends to Michael. I had met Michael, spoken with him, and witnessed his condition over 2 weeks time in Los Angeles at the end of May and beginning of June. I left Los Angeles with an uneasy feeling, particularly about Michael’s obvious weight loss.
<blockquote>Subject Line: Please look after Michael-INTERVENE PLEASE-something is wrong, I saw it.
Karen, Michael...
There is something that has been worrying me for several months now. I think there is something wrong with Michael and his health or his self-image about his weight and I am really worried.
I have been afraid to say anything to anyone because it's probably not really my place to talk about something so personal concerning Michael, and talking about it amongst fans can make you an outcast because it is regarded as criticising Michael. But I want to know if he is alright. I also want to know if he is not alright that someone is intervening and doing something about it. There are always new people around Michael and as has always been obvious they do not always have his best interest at heart because of their own interests, but I expect that you really care about Michael in a way that you would perhaps cross a line that others might not if you saw that he is somehow hurting himself.
It is painfully obvious that Michael is TOO THIN. I know that Michael's weight fluctuates, and he is often mostly too thin anyways, but NOW he is REALLY TOO THIN. I first noticed back in October that his weight was really plummeting. I spent a couple hours with Michael in his Bel Air suite at Halloween, and it really struck me how thin he was even back then. When we hugged I felt there was literally nothing to him. I told him to please take care of himself and stay healthy and that he looked good-I was trying to make a point that he doesn't need to lose more, that he looks good already, to stop now. Naturally this embarassed him and he mostly just smiled and said thank you without knowing what to say. I also wrote him a letter about it, which he read but only replied again saying thank you.
Michael told me back then that he was preparing a tour and so I thought perhaps it is normal for him to slim down in preparation. I expected that he would become very weight-conscious. But now it seems he has gone TOO FAR. I met him inside the dance rehearsal studio a couple weeks ago and I was honestly SHOCKED. I noticed how the bones of his shoulders were LITERALLY protruding, poking through the material of his black fitted top. He was SCARY SKINNY. When we hugged I felt his skeleton. I felt very worried and very sad for him.
He was also looking very down and stressed and his demeanor and voice were very frail. HE ACTUALLY SAID he was stressed and worried how he will be able to do all 50 shows, that he does not eat enough, and he does not have enough breaks between shows. Clearly the situation is too much for him, it is making him SICK...whether it is self-imposed because he is not eating or something else.
DOES NO ONE ELSE AROUND HIM EVERYDAY SEE THIS???
Karen do you see this? Do you say anything to him?
Michael do you see this when you go over wardrobe? Do you say anything to him?
PLEASE INTERVENE AND HELP. I really think he is to the point where something bad and regrettable could happen to him. I don't mean to suggest that you are responsible for him but AS A FRIEND AND ONE OF THE VERY FEW CONSISTENT PEOPLE around him that I think TRULY CARES about him, please risk saying something to him if you have not already.
Michael Amir, Alberto and Faheem have begun to restrict access to Michael and I'm now no longer allowed to even give a letter into his hands without them reading it first. They have many excuses that Michael is tired or in tour mode now or it's for his safety. This is ridiculous after 15 years of seeing Michael, I don't expect to be treated this way as if I would somehow harm him. I may be “just a fan” but I have been there for Michael for a really long time before them and will surely be here after them and Michael needs to hear from his fans when it is clear he is distressed, and those on the inside aren’t always worried for him but probably more concerned for their jobs should they say something deemed inappropriate. THEY MUST SEE that Michael is wasting down to nothing, but I don't trust that they say or do anything. And shutting his fans out during this time is not what he needs. I see how alone Michael is, and heard from him how heavy he feels under the pressure. He has his children, but they are his responsibility to look after not the other way around, and so beyond his children his close friends are very few and far between. Everyone else around him in this time is focused on This Is It. I have seen in the past couple years that no one has really been around for him in Las Vegas, then Bel Air, now Los Angeles, no one who really cares for him as a friend and not just as a business. Except of course the two of you.
If he is suffering from something serious, physically or mentally, regarding his weight or health, please intervene. Please let me know that he is alright. These concerts are not worth jeopardizing his life.
I’m really in tears for him, for the state that I saw him in. If you’ve already said something to him, please give him this letter if you think he needs to hear it again from someone else. I'm sure whatever exactly is going on must be a fragile situation but please don't avoid it altogether. I'm so worried. Please tell me he is okay. Above that, please tell me the TRUTH.
I love him. Please help him if he needs it. I wish I could do something, I feel helpless.
Thank you for reading,
Sandy
</blockquote>
Michael had invited us inside his rehearsal studio where he spoke very candidly about his fears and feelings about the tour schedule, AEG, and Randy Phillips. He also said he was suffering back pain, and he was not eating, which was already obvious to us. He was nearly in tears as he spoke, and folded his hands in prayer during a moment of silence. We left this meeting feeling very disturbed and worried for Michael, and continued to witness him over the next couple weeks losing yet more weight and sometimes in a drug-induced state. The group of “followers” decided that we needed to take decisive action and reach Michael directly about our worries. Michael was deteriorating quickly and our shock and fears continued to grow every day, we couldn’t rely on his entourage to care for his well-being, because they were clearly not, nor would they take our concerns seriously. We decided to write letters to Michael himself, each of us wrote a letter individually, but all had the same sentiment about our fears over Michael’s condition, pleading for him to take better care of himself, to love himself, and put himself before the tour. The letters were given directly into Michael’s hands outside his rehearsal studio the night before he passed away. Michael tried to phone Talitha (one of the fans who actually gave the letters and Michael knew very well) several times from the Staples Center, but the call kept dropping and we will never know what he wanted to say. Michael’s personal assistant, Michael Amir, told me in Los Angeles when I went back for Michael’s memorial that Michael asked for the letters upon returning home after rehearsal, and he took them to Michael in his bedroom. Michael would be gone in less than 8 hours.
So sadly, this is my last letter to Michael, written June 22nd and given to Michael night of June 24th. I share this for those who are attempting to blame those of us who actually tried to be heard. You are accusing the wrong people of doing nothing. Your attention should be turned towards AEG, Randy Phillips, Frank Dileo who claimed outright that everything was “under control” and “Michael is not going to die.”
<blockquote>Dearest Michael,
I’m not exactly sure how to begin what I need to say to you, but please understand everything I say comes only from a place of overwhelming love and care for your happiness and health. I love you so very much; much much much more than I could ever hope to adequately express to you. In the past several months I have become very worried that you are not caring for yourself as you deserve to be cared for. I have noticed you becoming increasingly thin, and you are now so thin that I’m really concerned about your well-being.
I can only imagine the paralyzing degree of pressure you must be feeling lately in preparation for you concerts, and I can only assume your drastic weight loss is a symptom of the stress you feel so heavily upon you in these recent months.
Michael, I just pray that you know I will still love and adore and support you even if you were to never set your precious feet upon another stage. You have stood proud against more stress and pressures in your life than is fair for one person to ever endure, and you have always done it with grace, humility, honor. For this I have admired you, with your seemingly superhuman strength and incredible willpower to carry though the deepest and darkest of times. But dearest Michael, I know you are human and must often feel tired, lost or lonely, overwhelmed, tiny in the shadow of enormous obligations. I can only imagine you must be feeling the weight of the world upon your shoulders in these couple remaining weeks until your opening night. I am worried that your intense schedule and perhaps your own worries about pleasing your fans, and stunning the world again with your greatness, is causing you to forgo food and lose weight you can no longer afford to lose.
I hope and pray that your concerts are everything amazingly fantastic that you have dared to dream. I know you have been working incredibly hard, incredibly long hours and want nothing more for you to be happy with the fruits of your labor. However, I pray that you are not laboring so hard that you are neglecting your health and not eating as necessary to nourish your body, mind, and spirit during what is undoubtedly an immensely stressful time.
Michael, when I met you several months ago at Halloween I was taken aback at how thin you were. But you had told me you were beginning to prepare a tour, and so I assumed perhaps your slight frame was the result of preparation. At that time you spoke about the concerts with a sparkle of anticipation in your voice, a spirit of exuberance, a light in your eyes like I had not seen for years. I was happy that you were happy. But now seeing you again in Los Angeles these past several weeks I am concerned your spirit seems broken, and your weight has fallen further. When I met you in the dance studio I was shocked at how thin you have become, when we hugged I felt there was not enough of you. If the concerts have become too much, too many, too stressful, please know you are not alone and you could never ever disappoint us should you feel it impossible to carry through. If the concerts are somehow jeopardizing your health, your health and well-being absolutely must come first. We could not enjoy a concert knowing you were suffering through it. Please do not feel obligated to us to perform beyond your desire, beyond your capability. This is not to say I doubt you for even a second, but I’m only worried that your weight is drastically low and am afraid for your life as you are about to expend an incredible amount of energy over the coming months.
I hope I haven’t offended you in any way with any of these words. I love you so much and I only dare to say what I have out of care and concern. You have seemed somewhat sad, overly stressed, and super skinny recently and I just want you to know that you are loved and I am praying for your health and happiness. I hope that you are actually perfectly alright and my worries are simply paranoia from having seen you on days when perhaps you weren’t feeling your best. Michael Amir, Alberto, and Faheem have begun restricting access to you more severely in recent weeks so it has not been easy to ask how you are doing and give our love and prayers. Please forgive us if we have upset you but we are worried.
I’m so looking forward to seeing you again in London. I love you and ask that you please take care of yourself - for yourself, your children, your fans, your family, and all those the world over who love you deeply and dearly from the very bottom of our hearts. We want to love you for many more years to come.
I Love You Always & Forever,
Sandy
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I am sure that he read it and now consider it my final goodbye to Michael.
It is with complete confidence that I say Michael did not trust or like AEG/Randy Phillips, but he felt enslaved financially to their demands because of their role in re-financing his life. We saw Randy Phillips at Michael’s memorial and told him "we know the truth"...he denied that he ever went against Michael's wishes, but Michael told us the truth and naturally we believe Michael. We told Randy "you know that we know the truth"...he was visibly shocked and was without words. I hope he feels an immense amount of regret and guilt, along with anyone/everyone else involved in what I believe pushed Michael to an edge from which he eventually fell.
We have known for many years that Michael was sometimes taking prescription drugs, that he endured phases of addictions over the past decade. The “followers” have witnessed this many times over the years, we have seen and spoken with Michael in altered states, and we have often felt concerned for him. It was not something we ever chose to post on forums or share publicly as it was a private matter for Michael, and we always chose not to jeopardize his privacy. However, those that SUPPLIED, ENABLED, USED, and NEGLECTED him over these years, especially in his last months, should take responsibility for their part in his death. Michael needed help, and instead his “friends” chose to keep him happy and controlled rather than getting him the help he desperately needed. Michael was human like all of us, and like anyone dependent on drugs he needed help. He did not need criminal doctors and friends keeping him medicated so their own greed and profits could be realized.
We also now know many more details that have revealed themselves since Michael’s passing and have given us full confidence in what we know and saw and corroborates our own testimonies. Some have been promised confidential, but it is our hope that the This Is Not It campaign will encourage others to speak the TRUTH they also know.
edit: The photo attached to this note was taken on May 29, 2009, 3 weeks before Michael passed. It is very evident he is very underweight, and he continued to lose weight even after this picture. It is most evident in his face, jaw and neck. You will also see in the This Is It movie that Michael was almost aways wearing THREE shirts AND a jacket to conceal his small frame in his last weeks.
MJ & Sandy
May 29, 2009
SAMANTHA'S TESTIMONY
I don’t know where to begin with my testimony. There is simply too much to say and so many feelings involved, feelings of sadness, regret, anger, confusion and helplessness. However, I need to share my story with the rest of you, for what it’s worth. It won’t bring Michael back and the vultures around him will keep fighting for whatever is left of him and his estate. This campaign we are putting together isn’t to try and stop the unstoppable, but to simply do Michael justice by telling who we can that he wasn’t well and that he DID reach out to us and that we owe him at least the truth by telling you what he told and showed us in th elast few weeks of his life. Whether he expressed his anguish and distress in words or in obvious physical and mental states, I believe (and I am not alone) that he was crying out for help and no-one around him came to his rescue, blinded by greed, fear, self-interest, disregard or even lack of compassion.
I have been a fan for over 20 years but only over the last 8 months of Michael’s life had I become what is called a “follower”. By that meaning I followed Michael on a regular if not daily basis. I got to see where he went and how he was and the people around him. I got to see his physical and mental state and how quickly things deteriorated in the last few weeks/months of his life. This is my recollection of the events preceding his death and how some of us, including myself, knew he was running out of time and was in great danger. We tried to intervene but we were too late.
In November 2008, Michael who was then staying at the Bel-Air hotel, met with a group of us outside and spoke to us for quite a while and he was kind enough to bring us food from his favorite restaurant which he had ordered for himself too that evening. He looked great and was very calm, very clear and lucid. There was obviously nothing “wrong” with him that evening. He spoke to us about many things and hinted at many projects coming up. At that time we had no idea that concerts were in the works. In the next few weeks Michael had many meetings at that hotel, meetings which now we know were about the Tour.
After the 02 concerts were announced in March, Michael began rehearsing at Center Staging between April and May. It is around that we started seeing a pattern in the increased visits to Dr. Klein’s office. The increase in visits and their duration began to alarm me and some others, especially when we began noticing the effects they had on him. He would start leaving the facility looking "groggy". We began realizing the procedures must have involved mind-altering substances.
It reached the point where some of us commented that it was pointless to give him fan letters and gifts after doctor’s visits as he would just send them back out signed, even though they were clearly letters addressed to him and not pictures from autograph hunters.
Something alarmed me more than usual on Saturday, April 25th,2009. It was the first time Michael went to see Dr. Klein on a week-end and it was late. He stayed there from 5pm-9.30pm.
When he came out from Klein’s office Michael smelled very strongly of I would say either rubbing alcohol or Ether and looked groggy.
On May 29th, Michael brought some of us in to Center Staging to talk to us about what was going on (after some fans told him they couldn’t get tickets to the concerts and how the ticket sales didn’t make sense and how things seemed to be a mess and was he aware of it). He told us he wasn’t aware of the problem, that he wasn’t aware that it was a seated venue and that he would do something about it. He told us he had gone to bed thinking it was 10 concerts and woke up finding out it was 50! He said “They did it without my consent. They just did it for obvious reasons”. He added “They did the schedule wrong too. It was supposed to be day, show off, day, show off, day, show off”. (He meant show, day off, show, day off).
His voice was breaking as he was going to start crying and he put his hands together in a prayer position and stood quietly. We were quiet with him. It was a very intense moment and filled with, in my opinion, sadness and worry.
I left feeling like our worries were validated and so did most of us there.
Unfortunately, the day after Michael made this statement it came out in the press. We don't know, but AEG was quick to refute it and call it a lie.
This also coincides with the timing of everything changing for the small group of us who used to have open contact with Michael.
After AEG found out about Michael’s statement to us everything changed.
Security shut us out and Michael stopped being as “available”.
With restricted access (although we still saw got to see him and somewhat speak to him) the doctor’s visits became more frequent and we noticed more of a physical change in him, especially his weight. He just looked too skinny and something felt wrong overall. Even his security guards’ attitudes and ways changed.
On June 1st Michael started rehearsals at the Forum in Inglewood
A couple of weeks into it, Michael Amir (Michael’s personal assistant and security) said that Michael was very tired, that he hadn't slept the entire week-end and that AEG kept on calling him all the time.
It was around that time that Michael would go to rehearsals later and later and sometimes cancel.
One of those times was on June 12th. Michael went late to rehearsals. On arrival there he didn’t stop for us the way he usually did. Shortly afterward his security came to see where we were, driving by our cars a block away where we usually parked and waited. They made no attempt to tell us what they were doing. This was about 8-9pm. At around midnight one of his security guards called “Biggie”, came out and told us: “Michael says this is “dangerous” (?!) and that “Michael didn’t want to go to rehearsals tonight”, “he’s tired”. And then we were asked to line up one by one and that we would get to have 15 seconds each alone with Michael. It all felt awkward for all of us involved. We didn’t understand what was going on but of course we did line up and had our time individually. It was very impersonal and we were being closely monitored by his security.
In the last few days of Michael’s life I also remember noticing his security guard Alberto Alvarez often looking very agitated and breaking into a nervous sweat. He would tell us, when questioning him on whether Michael was okay or not, that Michael was “focused” and in “tour mode” and not actually answering the question. Yet we could see it was more than that, that Michael had become increasingly altered, groggy and emaciated and that his security was nervous about something. In fact, instead of having 2-3 guards behind the gates at his house, it doubled and tripled and I even counted up to 12 of them on the night he died.
Something was up, something had changed and we knew it was time to act.
In an attempt to do an intervention to save his life, a couple of dozen fans (including myself) wrote letters to Michael the week before his death. It was out intention to give him the letters and to make a statement on behalf of all the fans who felt something was wrong.
We knew it was a matter of time before he died unless an action was taken. No-one else around him seemed to care enough to do it. Once all the letters were collected and a plan was in place, we decided to intervene on June 24th, 2009.
We did in fact manage to get them in his hands that afternoon. That night would be the last time I’d see him, leaving Staples Center at around 1.30 am on June 25th,2009.
This was my letter to him:
“Michael,
I have admired and loved you since the age of 14 when you first saved my life. You have kept saving it throughout the years, as blunt and odd as it may sound to someone who doesn’t even “know” me. You kept me going and gave me hope and strength. .
Now it’s my turn, all of our turns, to reach out to YOU and tell you we’re here or you and that we want to help.
Please understand we love you so much we can’t afford to lose you. You mean so much it hurts to see you unhappy the way we have seen you for a while, as hard as you’ve tried to hide it. We feel and see something is wrong.
Michael, don’t ever do anything you DON’T want to do, whether it be concerts or anything-else people want you to do to make money.
Don’t let anyone or anything stress you to the point where you lose sleep, worry or do whatever else that ultimately affects your health. None of it is worth it and you don’t need to prove yourself.
You’ve paid your dues, more than once.
I need you and love you so deeply and truly, we all do.
Samantha”
Finally I want to end this by making something very clear. I am not saying Michael seemed high or groggy all the time. I want that to be understood. We did NOT perceive him as a junkie. We were just concerned (during a certain period of time) that he was too stressed and too pressured to be able to eat and function without medication and that people around him knew he was unwell and chose to close their eyes for profit, and God knows what other reason. But I know what I saw and I know it wasn’t a healthy, happy, fit man ready to go onstage less than 3 weeks later, and they know it too. It’s time for the truth to come out.
Samantha
MJ & Sam
May 29, 2009
TALIN Testimony
Dear fans,
I live in LA and was consistently around Michael during his stay here in the last 8 months of his life. On days that I was not present, other “followers” were always around, so please take our testimonies seriously since collectively we saw Michael everyday and collectively our concerns were the same.
In my opinion, there are only two theories about Michael’s death:
1) Michael was being controlled, under pressure, being overworked, and his needs were being neglected. In addition to this, he was intentionally murdered and those responsible for this are more than just Dr. Murray.
2) Michael was being controlled, under pressure, being overworked, and his needs were being neglected. He was accidentally murdered by Dr. Murray.
The first part of both theories is FACT and while others may convince themselves that he was “fine”, I cannot lie to myself and ignore what I personally experienced in the last weeks of his life.
It’s very clear that Michael initially decided on these shows for financial reasons, though once the concerts were announced I noticed him excited about the whole record breaking project. In the first couple of months of rehearsals he seemed happy with things, asked us if we were surprised by the press conference and would ask us about songs we wanted to hear. But in the last 3 or 4 weeks things gradually turned downhill, the excitement was not always there, and after a while we finally realized something was wrong. Here are my FACTS:
On May 29th, the last day of rehearsals at Center Staging, a few of us went inside the studio and talked to Michael. It was actually he who wanted to talk to us. He first apologized about the seating arrangements for the concerts then expressed “the seating and the dates were done without my consent”. He said he was doing these shows for us and wanted to do it the way we wanted him to. He seemed unhappy about the way things were going and at some point his voice cracked like he was going to cry. He said that he’s only one person and only has so much energy…… Later that night we met him at a different location where we took pictures with him. Michael was half sitting inside the car and I was kind of leaning on him. I put my hand on his leg to push myself up and all I felt was bone. No, not like he was just skinny, more like he was nothing but a skeleton. It REALLY alarmed me and that’s when I first thought something was wrong. My personal letters to him from then on voiced concerns, not telling him anything specific but just asking him to think of his health and happiness first. Prior to this I had wondered when he would start putting weight on like he had during previous tours, but since he usually wore layers of oversized clothes, it was hard to tell just how think he was. Still with these facts to worry about, this is when his hair went curly, preparations were moving along and the concert hype was peaking. So I thought ‘well, maybe I’m overreacting. He has a month, maybe things will get sorted out’. And his first rehearsal at the Forum the following week was promising since we heard him singing so I thought it could all be coming together. I was still concerned but not worried that he was in danger.
June 12th is when Michael’s security started to act weird and started keeping us away from him by taking extreme measures. Their actions were absolutely unnecessary considering the fact that at any given time there were no more than 10 or 12 of us there and these were people that he knew and trusted as did his security. In the next couple of weeks so many reasons for this ran through my head. 1) As the guards kept saying, he was in “concert mode” and was probably trying to build up the hysteria. 2) He was groggy and didn’t want us to see and notice. 3) Concert promoters had found out that he was confiding in us and complaining to us and somehow this was being leaked to the press and they instructed the guards to make sure we have no contact with him. 4) Maybe he just didn’t want to be bothered and had started to feel unsafe (possible, but strange given the timing and other factors).
Michael frequently visited Dr. Klein’s office and at times came out of there groggy.
I always wondered why he was going there but never did I feel I had the right to ask. I assumed it was some kind of skin treatment but it bothered me that he was in there for hours (sometimes as long as 5 hours) and it bothered me that he was being put under. Never did I suspect he was going there to sleep and again, I did not feel like it was my place to ask nor would I have gotten any kind of an answer from anyone.
June 16th was the last time I saw him outside Dr. Klein’s office (even though I believe he went there once more before his death).
Among all the fans that were around him that day, we came to the conclusion that he was groggy when he first left the house and he was groggy when he left Dr. Klein’s office. He then went home for a while before going to rehearsal and he was groggy again after rehearsal. That night, 6 of us gathered with different scenarios. This is when we thought something was seriously wrong. We thought that maybe Michael was being drugged against his will to continue with rehearsals and not object. We thought he was being controlled by either AEG or the NOI or both. We started to make accusations about his staff and others involved with the shows and tried to think of what we could do. We knew of someone that was inside the forum but not involved with the concerts. I suggested we ask that person inside how Michael was doing when on stage and one of my friend said “Michael hasn’t been on stage for the past 3 rehearsals” (the past 3 rehearsals being June 11th, 12th, and 16th). The next day I asked Alberto, the head security, how Michael was doing with rehearsals and if he was happy and healthy. Alberto’s response was extremely positive. Of course he was lying since Michael hadn’t been on stage recently so he couldn’t have been doing “great”. Yes, maybe there were days when he was not needed on stage but not this close to opening night and not for 3 consecutive rehearsals.
June 21st was when I saw Marika’s email about what she had seen and how concerned she was about his weight. Without hesitation we teamed up to get our letters to Michael. Many fans now are blaming us for not including everyone. Please, please keep in mind that not all fans see eye to eye and had we opened this up for discussion, many would have attacked us for over exaggerating and seeking attention. Also keep in mind that this all happened in just a couple of days… On the 22nd there was no rehearsal. The 23rd was his first day at Staple Center and we tried to give the letters but unnecessary security measures made it impossible. On the 24th, by careful planning we were successful but clearly too late. I hand wrote my letter so I don’t have a copy of it to share. It was similar to other letters. Without doubting his abilities, I begged him to take care of himself and do what’s best for him, his family and his health and not to worry about us, the world, or his finances. Hours after we last saw him, he was dead. So for those people that doubt us, or question our intentions, or say that we are exaggerating what we experienced, do you think this was all a coincidence? Do you think the fact that we all panicked, worried, and took action, then had our worst expectation become reality was just chance? While the blame may only be put on Dr. Murray, the REAL cause of Michael Jackson’s death may remain a mystery forever. What IS fact is that Michael was not okay in the last weeks of his life but everyone around him chose to ignore that since they thought the show must go on! Yes, Michael was murdered accidentally or intentionally and by propofol. I’m not saying that His weight or previous drug use played a role in his death. What I’m trying to get across is that AEG is making it seem like he was perfectly fine and healthy up until the point when Dr. Murray overmedicated him, but we saw otherwise. So is AEG hiding more, covering up their tracks, by releasing this perfectly edited documentary? Is someone else behind it all? We may never know the truth but now you all know what I noticed, what we all noticed and tried to act on in the last days of his life.
I do not believe what. The photo was thin, but I doubt that 7 MJ swallowed pills and still had to arrive. Irresponsibly would certainly behaved and would never do anything that would endanger children and.I see no reason why he wanted to kill Murray, MJ when he paid 150000 a month . Well if you think that Murray killed him so why did not fit? so far as I know the death certificate is written that propofol was a prick and still another person not signed! The other fact is that the dissected body has different DNA than DNA MJ. Fact is that the patient had a lungs, difficulty breathing, as written in the autopsy report has not been officially released .Fact is one that a man with such problems would certainly not make such a performance in one piece for 3 .To !!!!!! it is absolutely impossible to stop breathing and then heart, then if he was so sick it was much earlier and It would never have even given the propofol, despite the fact that the dose of propofol was 25 mg and it would sleep up to 10 minutes. Another fact is that the birth certificate to passport name is Michael Joe Jackson and his mother confirmed in his autobiography, the name Joe. The death certificate is written JOseph. Is dead? I do his friend.
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by mjthelegendlives Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:43 pm
Ok very deep, insightful comments in here...but I'm going a little superficial...
One of these girls says MJ was so thin, that he kept asking for forgiveness for his physical aspect, hiding his face and blah, blah, blah...
On the other hand, the other says that MJ was under a few layers of clothing. (to hide his skeletal body)
Then someone else says a friend made a jacket for MJ and when he took off his jacket MJ was wearing really tight shirt and pants? (to show his skeletal body)
Shamon people, something is not right...was he ashamed to show his physical aspect by hiding his face, saying he was sorry, and wearing layers of clothes or did he have no problem showing his body by wearing tight clothes?
I don't buy it either...He is thin, yes, but skeletal and anorexic? Probably they are exaggerating.
I agree with who posted that MJ has 3 kids to look after and he wouldn't put himself and his precious children in such situation.
One of these girls says MJ was so thin, that he kept asking for forgiveness for his physical aspect, hiding his face and blah, blah, blah...
On the other hand, the other says that MJ was under a few layers of clothing. (to hide his skeletal body)
Then someone else says a friend made a jacket for MJ and when he took off his jacket MJ was wearing really tight shirt and pants? (to show his skeletal body)
Shamon people, something is not right...was he ashamed to show his physical aspect by hiding his face, saying he was sorry, and wearing layers of clothes or did he have no problem showing his body by wearing tight clothes?
I don't buy it either...He is thin, yes, but skeletal and anorexic? Probably they are exaggerating.
I agree with who posted that MJ has 3 kids to look after and he wouldn't put himself and his precious children in such situation.
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by Janet77 Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:22 pm
mjthelegendlives wrote:Ok very deep, insightful comments in here...but I'm going a little superficial...
One of these girls says MJ was so thin, that he kept asking for forgiveness for his physical aspect, hiding his face and blah, blah, blah...
On the other hand, the other says that MJ was under a few layers of clothing. (to hide his skeletal body)
Then someone else says a friend made a jacket for MJ and when he took off his jacket MJ was wearing really tight shirt and pants? (to show his skeletal body)
Shamon people, something is not right...was he ashamed to show his physical aspect by hiding his face, saying he was sorry, and wearing layers of clothes or did he have no problem showing his body by wearing tight clothes?
I don't buy it either...He is thin, yes, but skeletal and anorexic? Probably they are exaggerating.
I agree with who posted that MJ has 3 kids to look after and he wouldn't put himself and his precious children in such situation.
I am very interested in MJ, I'm trying to learn what. That smelled of black orchid.That even this is a boulevard lie?
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by Janet77 Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:37 pm
mjthelegendlives wrote:Ok very deep, insightful comments in here...but I'm going a little superficial...
One of these girls says MJ was so thin, that he kept asking for forgiveness for his physical aspect, hiding his face and blah, blah, blah...
On the other hand, the other says that MJ was under a few layers of clothing. (to hide his skeletal body)
Then someone else says a friend made a jacket for MJ and when he took off his jacket MJ was wearing really tight shirt and pants? (to show his skeletal body)
Shamon people, something is not right...was he ashamed to show his physical aspect by hiding his face, saying he was sorry, and wearing layers of clothes or did he have no problem showing his body by wearing tight clothes?
I don't buy it either...He is thin, yes, but skeletal and anorexic? Probably they are exaggerating.
I agree with who posted that MJ has 3 kids to look after and he wouldn't put himself and his precious children in such situation.
I think it will definitely appear in the film dvojníci.Jestli and MJ's I do not know, I know his form from last.One I am sure that I knew him by the dancing, because it has a perfect and unique movements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUT6C2CKUPs
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by mjthelegendlives Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:47 pm
Janet77 wrote:mjthelegendlives wrote:Ok very deep, insightful comments in here...but I'm going a little superficial...
One of these girls says MJ was so thin, that he kept asking for forgiveness for his physical aspect, hiding his face and blah, blah, blah...
On the other hand, the other says that MJ was under a few layers of clothing. (to hide his skeletal body)
Then someone else says a friend made a jacket for MJ and when he took off his jacket MJ was wearing really tight shirt and pants? (to show his skeletal body)
Shamon people, something is not right...was he ashamed to show his physical aspect by hiding his face, saying he was sorry, and wearing layers of clothes or did he have no problem showing his body by wearing tight clothes?
I don't buy it either...He is thin, yes, but skeletal and anorexic? Probably they are exaggerating.
I agree with who posted that MJ has 3 kids to look after and he wouldn't put himself and his precious children in such situation.
I am very interested in MJ, I'm trying to learn what. That smelled of black orchid.That even this is a boulevard lie?
Maybe I am in denial...maybe these fans are saying the truth...maybe he wasn't eating well and he was frail, but that's not what I saw at the rehearsals...How can a frail, anorexic, sick man be dancing and moving like he was at the rehearsals? I am feeling sick with all of this. Maybe I should appreciate that these fans cared about him and tried to do something. Ugh, I cannot, cannot understand why the memorial, the burial, the news, the family's interviews, and all other "proof" that MJ is "dead" hasn't affect my belief in a hoax, and these emails from these fans do make me think twice about a hoax? Please someone virtually slap me and tell me this is just part of the plan.
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by Janet77 Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:04 pm
mjthelegendlives wrote:Janet77 wrote:mjthelegendlives wrote:Ok very deep, insightful comments in here...but I'm going a little superficial...
One of these girls says MJ was so thin, that he kept asking for forgiveness for his physical aspect, hiding his face and blah, blah, blah...
On the other hand, the other says that MJ was under a few layers of clothing. (to hide his skeletal body)
Then someone else says a friend made a jacket for MJ and when he took off his jacket MJ was wearing really tight shirt and pants? (to show his skeletal body)
Shamon people, something is not right...was he ashamed to show his physical aspect by hiding his face, saying he was sorry, and wearing layers of clothes or did he have no problem showing his body by wearing tight clothes?
I don't buy it either...He is thin, yes, but skeletal and anorexic? Probably they are exaggerating.
I agree with who posted that MJ has 3 kids to look after and he wouldn't put himself and his precious children in such situation.
I am very interested in MJ, I'm trying to learn what. That smelled of black orchid.That even this is a boulevard lie?
Maybe I should appreciate that these fans cared about him and tried to do something. Ugh, I cannot, cannot understand why the memorial, the burial, the news, the family's interviews, and all other "proof" that MJ is "dead" hasn't affect my belief in a hoax, and these emails from these fans do make me think twice about a hoax? Please someone virtually slap me and tell me this is just part of the plan.
Sick man with bad lungs and breathing would be hard to handle the huge physical.Dead, I think, I would say that all part of the film THIS IS IT.Thriller should shoot up to 15.7 2009 at Dome project, how they could finish, he would be dead MJ? Think of MJ deliberately made himself sick, mainly because of the media and those what he . Be revenge for all the humiliation and hardship, which he had walk, but certainly as it was something much more serious, why he had to stage. Saw the Staples Center in the hall lamp, and such was also the Forrest Lawn and I know what Randy Philips wrote to the funeral book and then sat down to the man in hat and it is peeling off Mask I.Bad glue or deliberately not stick.
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by Janet77 Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:27 pm
mjthelegendlives wrote:Ok very deep, insightful comments in here...but I'm going a little superficial...
One of these girls says MJ was so thin, that he kept asking for forgiveness for his physical aspect, hiding his face and blah, blah, blah...
On the other hand, the other says that MJ was under a few layers of clothing. (to hide his skeletal body)
Then someone else says a friend made a jacket for MJ and when he took off his jacket MJ was wearing really tight shirt and pants? (to show his skeletal body)
Shamon people, something is not right...was he ashamed to show his physical aspect by hiding his face, saying he was sorry, and wearing layers of clothes or did he have no problem showing his body by wearing tight clothes?
I don't buy it either...He is thin, yes, but skeletal and anorexic? Probably they are exaggerating.
I agree with who posted that MJ has 3 kids to look after and he wouldn't put himself and his precious children in such situation.
Why not write? I wrote something that upset you? Maybe I was wrong. I do not believe a word I just wonder if MJ smelling perfume Black Orchid? Certainly we recognize that as a woman I want this.
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by Guest Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:56 pm
Red Velvet wrote:I agree with a lot of what you have said here. I also do feel Michael may have been doing a lot of pain management because he does have back problems, and was "taxed" quite a bit physically. I believe he would visit Klein's office for that and maybe to be 'put under' for a while, because I also believe Michael's mind never stops and that he was "deathly" afraid of Tohme who looks dark and scary even to me from a camera shot. I think when pain management drugs get out of control (and they easily do) a person's sense of self-care is thrown off balance. I believe he was losing weight rapidly for whatever reason. I also believe that he saw in the mirror the same horrifying (to him) things that horrified his fans who had been following him for 15 years and I do believe he read their letters. I feel it is for that reason (in part) that he did do something to change course, plot his 'escape' or however one wants to say it.queenpanther55 wrote:I have to ask myself then how coincidence that is that Michael happens to die in his home. That he died right before the fans knew whats wrong about him.
WHAT IS WRONG with MICHAEL being thin anyway? Not because he was thin and skeletal could mean his Brain and Talent is also disabled?
Steve Job CEO of Apple Mac have just recovered from his dreaded illness, now completely different of what he looks like before and after his operation. But that doesnt stop him into working. What makes it different from Michael Jackson?
MJ knows his capabilities. He worked so hard for this. If he does not eat maybe because he doesnt want to or hes not hungry. How does it makes difference to ordinary people like us, when we worked overtime, we also forget to eat.
I dont think he doesnt trust Dr Klein as his dermatologist.
I dont think he is not aware of whats going on his physical body.
I dont think he wouldnt consult a doctor of his health problems.
We are talking about a Genius entertainer here. Talking about abused , i think he has learned a lot from the very beginning - his father- and some from the past who took advantage of him. What possible reason could we think, if until now he hasnt learn his lessons?
Michael may have studied everything before settling with AEG. This is something he may have planned for years. (recall the interview he have had with Diane Sawyer (LMP and MJ Part 5), He wanted a documentary, a kind of film that can grab the worlds attention. He wanted the media to take into his world and fall on his trap. (History Video)
Sorry, but the whole testimony is very childish. Its ok to be very concern, but come on, theres a bunch of people around Michael Jackson, I dont think they are all blind not to see if something is wrong. I dont think not one of them thought about it, perhaps, everyone in there just want money?
The deal is , Michael Jackson was very busy at that time. He mean to finish the show on the 25th because he planned for it. If incase he didnt show up in rehearsals maybe because he was too tired. Or there was no schedule for him to come. He will completely be there on the 24th with finishing touch. As MJ tried to restrict these followers, they began to panicked.
MJ might have been concerned about the followers attacked because of their concerns. the fact that some information was leaked, he may have given the advice to set a little time that the usual time for them. now the followers was overreacting, and at some point MJ has become worried, that needs more securities at the moment.
Thats how i understand the whole scenario. If MJ died just like that, I dont think we are to see his new film and new music. The family would have wanted to set aside that first and settle the mystery of his death before anything else. Anywat whats in a hurry?
I won't be looking for too much from the movie. They took lots of footage which was enough for Michael to decide to 'dip'. There are a lot of reasons for him to have done so, and I do feel the fans' concerns helped him make that decision with letters given to him on the 24th, to go ahead with changing his direction on the 25th and letting AEG use what they had the best they could which MJ knew was gonna be gangbusters. That's what I believe for now anyway
oh, I also don't believe that Karen Faye is in on anything which is why she is in so much shock and sadness to this day. She spent over 25 years with Michael and was nuts about him so I can see that being her reaction just like most fans are still feeling.
Its the other folks, (parents, children, close friends) who are acting almost like nothing happened.
Yes I agree with you...MJ was not well and he had a medication problem...I dont belive though it
was by his own doing... Maybe at first he took pain meds for pain, but Im thinking other people
saw a oppitunity with MJ and pushed Meds on him if you get my drift.. hopefully not to
the point where Mj couldnt live without them BUT anythings possible!! We are all human after all.
I just pray to god not though...Cause once your addicted to pills and your feeling all dopey
its only clouding a much bigger problem,,,which as hard as it is, to say for me, MJ was sad
and he was in a cocoon type of life and he had been to hell and back so many times.
How the man didnt break years ago is amazing..MJ is a fighter, but ask yourself this question?
If this did indeed happen then a whole lot of people are to blame!!! To most in MJs life, MJ
was and is a MONEY MACHINE!!! and even after his so called death people are still
cashing in on MJ. MIchael Jackson was not a well man , you can clearly see that in some
of his pics..The one that stands out for me is the pic taken at the 02 announcment
standing behind the curtain. That was the real MJ not the they guy who announced the concerts.
As far as the fans go maybe their right some of them and maybe their wrong but think about this
also? If you have bad people controlling you becasue your so stoned out of your mind from
these meds then dont you think these bad people would do what ever is need to keep people
like fans ,family true friends away??
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by ILuvUMoreMJ Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:02 am
Red Velvet wrote: I agree with a lot of what you have said here. I also do feel Michael may have been doing a lot of pain management because he does have back problems, and was "taxed" quite a bit physically. I believe he would visit Klein's office for that and maybe to be 'put under' for a while, because I also believe Michael's mind never stops and that he was "deathly" afraid of Tohme who looks dark and scary even to me from a camera shot. I think when pain management drugs get out of control (and they easily do) a person's sense of self-care is thrown off balance. I believe he was losing weight rapidly for whatever reason. I also believe that he saw in the mirror the same horrifying (to him) things that horrified his fans who had been following him for 15 years and I do believe he read their letters. I feel it is for that reason (in part) that he did do something to change course, plot his 'escape' or however one wants to say it.
I won't be looking for too much from the movie. They took lots of footage which was enough for Michael to decide to 'dip'. There are a lot of reasons for him to have done so, and I do feel the fans' concerns helped him make that decision with letters given to him on the 24th, to go ahead with changing his direction on the 25th and letting AEG use what they had the best they could which MJ knew was gonna be gangbusters. That's what I believe for now anyway
oh, I also don't believe that Karen Faye is in on anything which is why she is in so much shock and sadness to this day. She spent over 25 years with Michael and was nuts about him so I can see that being her reaction just like most fans are still feeling.
Its the other folks, (parents, children, close friends) who are acting almost like nothing happened.
I agree with everything you just said!
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by juliet Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:09 am
These are my thoughts on all of it.
For one, Michael is so sensitive to people not living their life to the fullest, that's why he contributes in every way he can, where the media never shows them to the public. He wants to bring change in this world because he can see all the life's struggles, hardship, etc.
So, how in the world will Michael just take his own life for granted like people would say he neglected himself? He speaks through his music and songs about giving more to those in need. Just remember the song "What More Can I Give".
Remember, Michael is not that stupid to 'not to eat'. He's an artist for ages and he knows how it is to be one. This is not his first concert. He's been doing live concerts all his life, so he knows how to handle things.
These people who think otherwise need to have a GOLDEN inspiration from the GK.
For one, Michael is so sensitive to people not living their life to the fullest, that's why he contributes in every way he can, where the media never shows them to the public. He wants to bring change in this world because he can see all the life's struggles, hardship, etc.
So, how in the world will Michael just take his own life for granted like people would say he neglected himself? He speaks through his music and songs about giving more to those in need. Just remember the song "What More Can I Give".
Remember, Michael is not that stupid to 'not to eat'. He's an artist for ages and he knows how it is to be one. This is not his first concert. He's been doing live concerts all his life, so he knows how to handle things.
These people who think otherwise need to have a GOLDEN inspiration from the GK.
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by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:14 am
juliet wrote:These are my thoughts on all of it.
For one, Michael is so sensitive to people not living their life to the fullest, that's why he contributes in every he can, where the media never shows them to the public. He wants to bring change in this world because he can see all the life's struggles, hardship, etc.
So, how in the world will Michael just take his own life for granted like people would say he neglected himself? He speaks through his music and songs about giving more to those in need. Just remember the song "What More Can I Give".
Remember, Michael is not that stupid to 'not to eat'. He's an artist for ages and he knows how it is to be one. This is not his first concert. He's been doing live concerts all his life, so he knows how to handle things.
These people who think otherwise need to have a GOLDEN inspiration from the GK.
Maybe that decision was taken out of his hands by evil people...Drugs cloud judgments Juliet!
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