Re: mj out and about in disguise

by iMISSYOUMJ Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:39 am

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:It does look like his figure!! And it does sound like that girl shouts "Michael". Regardless of what TMZ says, I just don't think any park employees would be allowed to get that close, and they definitely wouldn't be allowed to touch them. I'm still really excited about this video!

Same here! mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Icon_biggrin

But I heard the girl shouting "Daddy" instead of "Michael". At first I heard "Michael" but after listening to it twice I heard "Daddy"! mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Icon_bounce

by fa Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:23 am

Hi!
I Wanto to contribute too with some pics.
I posted these captures in a Brazilian Forum. Quality isn´t good, but I tried to get the sequence

Pig aproaxing
mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin1

mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin1

Paris looks to his direction
mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin2

mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin2b

mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin3

mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin4

He gets down and is very close to Liz and Paris
mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin5

He is looking to Liz
mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin6

mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin7

8, 9 e 10 still folowing them
mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin8

mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin9

mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin10

The photos of his hand
mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin11

mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porquin12

Hope have helped!

by iMISSYOUMJ Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:29 am

@fa,
Thanks for posting the pictures. The Masked man seems to be walking very close to them and kept looking at Liz, but we can't be sure that he was looking at Liz because he was wearing a mask. mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Icon_scratch

by yaya Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:35 am

thanks for the pics! it's true, we can't tell exactly who he's looking at cuz of the mask....but his face is turned in their direction a lot of the time. and the hand gestures look the same as michael's.

by speechlessornot Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:49 am

And...maybe i'm wrong now...have anyone else heard that child crying "Michael" at the end?
Hmmm..maybe I'm crazy but I'm almost sure that i heard that.

by iMISSYOUMJ Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:52 am

speechlessornot wrote:And...maybe i'm wrong now...have anyone else heard that child crying "Michael" at the end?
Hmmm..maybe I'm crazy but I'm almost sure that i heard that.

Yes I did heard that. mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Icon_wink

by icy55 Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:59 am

hmmm... so if he's really there. Means all those related to him at that very place knows that it is michael? How can a security let a mask man go so close to liz and not be suspicious. Must have have known that this 'mask man' must of of some importance...

by fa Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:34 am

I heard Michael too.
I asked for other people to listen and all of them had listened it too.

by lonelynation Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:45 pm

Which video link are you talking about when you say you heard someone say MJ

by fa Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:08 pm

lonelynation wrote:Which video link are you talking about when you say you heard someone say MJ

We are talking about the video in the first page of this thread.

Here is the link:
[link]http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=ef9b3196-21c1-45e3-8123-f0fae1b7521f[/link]

by lonelynation Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:12 pm

When do you hear it?

by fa Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:47 pm

lonelynation wrote:When do you hear it?

I think it was in octuber 17th.
But It´s better confirming reading the thread since the begining .

by lonelynation Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:48 pm

OH sorry I meant in the video, at what time
I listened to it 3 times and didn't catch it.

by marsheliamorgan Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:57 pm

there was a post on here EARLY this a.m. regarding this,and the pics are close up and real good,the hand gesture was done real well,i think it was a video not pics,cant remember who posted,but,the hand started as waving and then went to the thumbs up position,and i never hear anything on videos but on the one that was posted earlier, I COULD EVEN HEAR some child/girl said michael,i swear,and he kinda backs away and starts walking away,i wish i could remember on what thread it was posted,it was really good,it has pretty much convcinced me it was/is michael,i was on the fence on this one,but,after seeing that video they slowed it down real well and circled the pics,it def.convinced me and on the girl saying michael,they played it at that point two or three times in a row,so it would have been hard to miss. they did a really good job,it helped me anyway.

by lonelynation Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:58 pm

and it's on this website?

by infinitylady Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:54 am

Speechless,

That video has been removed.

by infinitylady Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:55 am

This is interesting check out this link on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280ZE0y_Wyo

by city.gal1 Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:22 pm

infinitylady wrote:This is interesting check out this link on youtube.

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280ZE0y_Wyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280ZE0y_Wyo[/quote[/url]]

Very interesting indeed. Thanks for sharing.

by Kazumi Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:49 pm

ok i just saw this vid now and wow! mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Icon_eek

at first look, i didn't get what was happening and where would be Michael in disguise, but after watching it a second time i saw the same as you guys...it could only be Michael! mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Icon_pirat

i agree with what has been said: the masked man being so close to Liz and the kids and security does nothing to prevent it, Paris smilling at the masked man, masked man walking and giving thumbs up... it all 'screams' MJ! mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Icon_eek

and about the hair, anyone could wear a wig, if the person is wearing a mask, why not a wig as well?

and mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Lol

about LaToya being the masked man, cause I too thought it was her at the beginning!

by lonelynation Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:56 pm

Nicely put.
It has to be MJ!

by 4evermichael71 Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:54 am

For me it was the wave and the thumb, that was all I needed. I too heard his name in the video. Folks can believe or not, but in my heart, I know it is him..and the wig looks like the one from Ghost or very similar as it is difficult to tell with the poor lighting. JMO I could be wrong.

by 4evermichael71 Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:55 am

fa wrote:Hi!
I Wanto to contribute too with some pics.
I posted these captures in a Brazilian Forum. Quality isn´t good, but I tried to get the sequence

Pig aproaxing

Paris looks to his direction

He gets down and is very close to Liz and Paris

He is looking to Liz

8, 9 e 10 still folowing them

The photos of his hand

Hope have helped!

Thank you for taking the time to post these pics, I appreciate it Smile

by Kazumi Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:44 am

damn i couldn't hear any 'Michael' after the girl screamed, i'd be a terrible detective, lol mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Suspect

by yitsy Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:48 am

Don't feel bad Kazumi, either could I. Perhaps his name being heard, someone yelled, "oh hey, it's Michael's kids.....

by Kirsche Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:19 am

IDK what to think..... That Paris looks at him is not strange. Who else wouldn't look at this, when you were scared by that thing( like we heard Paris screaming)...And where is it`? Maybe a Halloween thing? IDK

But yeah, it was TMZ again who posted this first and that makes me think.

Thu it's very strange... I mean LIz Taylor got an heart surgery and now she's in this trouble. And from the height, it could be him

by Syringa Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:08 pm

Masks ... Halloween ... BeLIEve ...

by 4evermichael71 Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:46 pm

icy55 wrote:hmmm... so if he's really there. Means all those related to him at that very place knows that it is michael? How can a security let a mask man go so close to liz and not be suspicious. Must have have known that this 'mask man' must of of some importance...

Exactly! So many of his family were there and also Miko Brando his long time friend. I know that's him!

by ILuvUMoreMJ Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:51 pm

Even Mike on TMZ said he thought it looked like him. Laughing

Of course he went on to say that it wasn't him because he's dead. But then he said that if he isn't and he goes out on Halloween in disguise, that they'd find him for us. Laughing

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:50 am

The vid has been deleted!! Dang it!!! I just got back from vacation and am trying to read up on things...has anyone got the vid they can send me please?

by badloving Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:13 am

city.gal1 wrote:
infinitylady wrote:This is interesting check out this link on youtube.

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280ZE0y_Wyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280ZE0y_Wyo[/quote[/url]]

Very interesting indeed. Thanks for sharing.

yes it's interesting...and we have a children's day here in romania on the 1st of june...i didn't know they don't have one in the US....come here Michael!!!!!!

by mjj29081958 Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:23 am

@ THE JACKSONOLOGIST
Welcome back!! mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Icon_biggrin

I just checked that link, and I can see it yet! Try again (same link) http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=ef9b3196-21c1-45e3-8123-f0fae1b7521f , or you can see it on Youtube, but the quality is not so good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-UDTwfV6NA&feature=related
Hope it helps!

by fa Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:42 pm

I tried to make some captures of hte hand without the TMZ logo.
There is another video without the logo.
here is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRPQSwVRzqI

I also tried to do some captures of thi video but it´s quality is worse than the first video. So sorry. But maybe we can use it or somebody may try to do better captures

mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porcomao2

mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porcomao2

mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Porcomao1

by Kirsche Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:23 pm

hmmm... Michael has big hands

by lonelynation Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:29 pm

by ILuvUMoreMJ Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:30 pm

Are you thinking that hand doesn't look big enough? Cuz I just noticed in that last shot that it doesn't to me. I hope it's just the angle because I thought the thumb looked similar.

by Eva R Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:23 am

yeah when I listen carefully with my headphones I hear on 0:23 something high that's sounds like Mike and after that REALLY SOFT: ael. cool! mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Lol

by Syringa Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:31 am

Around 0:20 is this scream, and after that I hear a man saying "Mike" and after that 0:23 I can hear a girl saying Michael.

And yea, if I was that guy with the mask and I saw Michael Jackson's kids walking around with their nanny and security men, I wouldn't go even near them if I didn't happen to be their dad.

by 4evermichael71 Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:55 am

It's the angle and quality because in the original video, the hand is big and the thumb is undeniably Michael's Very Happy

by Grace Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:13 am

pushing a little bit up - this is really interesting - were we presented a "light" Halloween video version by TMZ?

fa wrote:I tried to make some captures of hte hand without the TMZ logo.
There is another video without the logo.
here is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRPQSwVRzqI

Can anybody please explain to me who is waving at 1:45 - 1:52 ???? This looks like a man with a wig, doesn't it?

And why does this publisher iiluPrince on youtube have access to any more complete and not so blurry video material without TMZ logo ????

Is this the one filming all these scenes?

----
Check this material out - the person with the
wig is arriving with the studio tour bus IMO and the saw mask person is
chasing Paris (which we did not see on the TMZ video), is wearing a red
coat with a hood and gets pushed back by a security guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRPQSwVRzqI

by Grace Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:38 am

double post, sorry

by ilprincipe Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:59 am

Grace wrote:Check this material out - the person with the wig is arriving with the studio tour bus IMO and the saw mask person is chasing Paris (which we did not see on the TMZ video), is wearing a red coat with a hood and gets pushed back by a security guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRPQSwVRzqI

You are right....the chance for me is still 50/50...but if it really is MJ..
so I think that not so many ppl are involved and know that....

by Eva R Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:02 am

4evermichael71, I love your picture after your messages!!! SOOO HOT!! mj out and about in disguise - Page 4 Affraid

by Grace Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:03 am

Grace wrote:I think we overlooked some important scenes in this material:

fa wrote:I tried to make some captures of hte hand without the TMZ logo.
There is another video without the logo.
here is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRPQSwVRzqI

Can anybody please explain to me who is waving at 1:45 - 1:52 ???? This looks like a man with a wig, doesn't it?

And why does this publisher iiluPrince on youtube have access to any more complete and not so blurry video material without TMZ logo ????

Is this the one filming all these scenes?

----
Check this material out - the person with the
wig is arriving with the studio tour bus IMO and the saw mask person is
chasing Paris (which we did not see on the TMZ video), is wearing a red
coat with a hood and gets pushed back by a security guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRPQSwVRzqI

by Eva R Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:09 am

yeah i see it. Well, I don't see it very well, so i don't know if that's Michael that is waving. Yeah how does that person get that video.. why didn't they showed it in the first place?

by fa Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:54 am

NO!!!!!! The first masked man is a character from "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre".
When that masked guy scares Paris you can hear the noise of a power saw!
The Pig man comes from the back of the studio!
They ARE NOT the same guy!
The security guy pushes the man with the power saw and the red coat!
BUT NO security guy pushes the man with the mask of pig!
And the Pig guy DON´T USE a coat!

by 4evermichael71 Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:19 am

Eva R wrote:4evermichael71, I love your picture after your messages!!! SOOO HOT!!

thank you, I love yours too! Very Happy

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:19 am

Does anyone know if the Pig Man from the Saw movies actually has a name in the movies? I looked it up on IMDB but couldnt find anything. I know that the killer in the movies is the pig and the creepy man, but does the pig have a name in the credits?

Oh...and I believe this to be MJ as well.....they probasbly called ahead and asked for security for Liz and the kids and warned them MJ would be there in a pig mask from SAW and told them to leave him alone!!!

by Kirsche Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:18 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Does anyone know if the Pig Man from the Saw movies actually has a name in the movies? I looked it up on IMDB but couldnt find anything. I know that the killer in the movies is the pig and the creepy man, but does the pig have a name in the credits?

Oh...and I believe this to be MJ as well.....they probasbly called ahead and asked for security for Liz and the kids and warned them MJ would be there in a pig mask from SAW and told them to leave him alone!!!

Yes! The security pushed away the chainsaw man, but not the SAW-Pig_Man. And I listened to the video very close and it really sounds like somebody shout's out " Michael!" A woman, I think. maybe the nanny=?

by ishealive Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:27 pm

This is crazy and I mean crazy in a good way. If you take a break from this site and just think for a few mins about this masked guy and why they'd be allowed anywhere near the Jacksons and Liz Taylor. Obviously Security are aware of this person or were told leave them alone. If we walked this close to the Jacksons you can be certain we'd be told to move along but this guy is wearing a mask and he's allowed to be up close and personal... Michael is the only logical explanation I have, this has to be MJ who else is it and why wear a mask!

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:27 pm

Chainsaw man, Pig man, blonde lady, hatman.......where do we get these names!! LOL

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