Call me crazy but i think papa JOE was right with the double IMO

Oke so im 20 minutes back home from the movie and its 1.00 in the night i cant sleep cause my head is spinning like crazy

First of all let me say OMG i loved IT im speechless It was amazing to se him like that haah so funny with the piano guy if something wasnt right haha his reaction priceless
And from other topic and reations i think there are different movies, i didnt see no crying dancers and stuff like that only mj, mj, mj and MJ:P

But let me get back to the point.
Im gonna start about the ears again and the o2 guy.
First the ears.
You got THE REAL MICHAEL in different close all the time without glasses(sometimes not) and ROUND EAR, yeah you read that right.
And im sure about that cause i asked it twise to my friend and he sad it to 'IU see a round ear'
Then you got orange pants, mangled ear,only wearing glasses, o2 feeling michael, (he wore two different jackets, the one with the orange pant under it and another, im gonna look for that )

Oke i was paying a lot of attention to the ears when you could see them very well.
Now first i was looking at the ears and couldnt se it very well because of the headset so i was like nevermind, BUT then there were clips of mj with a little ear(music stuff) and a microfone.
As i was looking at the real mj without glasses i was stunned of what i saw, A ROUND EAR
Then we had orange pants always wearing sunglasses mj and same ear, microfone blablabla AND GUES WHAT A MANGLED EAR
i almost scream cause i was exited I know what i saw and i even asked my friend twice if he also saw it, and he was looking at me like are you crazy when i almost screamed of joy
The orange pants mj you see only a few times in the beginning an he gives me a o2 guy feeling(not a mj feeling )

CALL ME CRAZY OR I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA SAY TO ME BUT THATS WHAT I HAVE SEEN.
And after the movie im now 100% sure our i love you more is still with us

Now im gonna sleep in 15 minutes so i will say the rest tomorrow, please give youre oppinions and thoughts if you have seen the movie(or not:P)

I also believe orange pants man was a double but all the others were Michael.

Orange pants mimmed his way through most of it when all the other vocals were live and he couldn't dance. You can see when they did the split screens that it was off compared to the other Michael.

The movie was sheer brilliance and I loved every minute of it

Rach wrote:I also believe orange pants man was a double but all the others were Michael.

Orange pants mimmed his way through most of it when all the other vocals were live and he couldn't dance. You can see when they did the split screens that it was off compared to the other Michael.

The movie was sheer brilliance and I loved every minute of it

Yeah that was what i wanted to add tomorrow(the vocals)
Thanks

AND i also loved every minute i still have a smile on my face from ear to ear

The question I have is why would they use a double in this film when there was apparently 80+ hours of footage with the real MJ? Why put the orange pant MJ in there at all? I mean from all sides whether this was planned by MJ or not. I don't get the point.

looking4truth wrote:The question I have is why would they use a double in this film when there was apparently 80+ hours of footage with the real MJ? Why put the orange pant MJ in there at all? I mean from all sides whether this was planned by MJ or not. I don't get the point.

I really don't know. If it was Michael there was something off about him. I mean he was all over the place and just didn't seem to fit in to me.

I will need to think about it becaue it's 12.30am here and I am exhausted and have to be in 6 hours LOL.

Mangled ear? Like this? It's because of the microphone.

this is what i had THOUGHT i spotted,orange pants mj in beginning,didnt and wasnt really doing ANY mj dance moves,but,i thought maybe i was just excited about being out and seeing movie and couldnt focus,then when they did the 3 shots on one screen,i was (this is SO EMBARRASSING FOR ME TO ADMIT)checking out his butt,and all butts looked different to me,the black pants being the real mj,please dont get upset or attackme,i was just observing and thought this of course,i was PRETTY interested in the booty so i may have been just alittle distracted.

Very interesting. Then I asked myself if in fact there was a double used which I trust you guys have observed very well and I trust your judgements I wondered why Joe would come out with a statement like this and it came to me that him saying that would give more credence and belief to the hoax and people will think if there were doubles used then MJ was not very fit enough to attend all the rehersals but it may have been in fact part of the hoax.

I'd looked at JonellStartv video about the This is it movie. She pointed out there were 5 different MJ's. Here's the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXw9PH71M_0

Also, I purchased the 36 page booklet photos from the This is it movie. These photos display MJ without sunglasses and you do not see the guy with orange pants or the guy in the black and silver jacket singing Human Nature. These photos are the real MJ. I do believe when you say that MJ is still with us. Even Kenny Ortega has given a clue when he had an interview on the Morning Show with Harry Smith. He said that MJ and him work in the editing room hours and weeks on the movie. He also indicated at the Memorial service that MJ was with them less than a week ago. How could that be when MJ died on June 25th and the memorial service was July 7th. That's 12 days.

Orange pants dude was lacking for sure-my question is...why? if they have 100 hrs footage and all this and if they showed the real mike and a fake mike (during the same songs) what was the purpose of that? I LOVED watching him when he was in his little black suit with red shirt-hottness. (didnt like the pointy shoulders-creeped me out and him look thinner-wow im sleepy). I swore I was goin to bed but the more think of the orange pants the more i wonder and now that i have seen this about the ear-i am gonna have to see it again. DANG YOU!LLOL no I already did think it was off but I jsut cant figure why.

Yep, I just got back from the theather,and I agree.Orange pants Dude was not Michael.And Pinguin Dance was Not Michael.ANd I think they changed cloth ,too.

So nobody could tell and would believe NO Noooo thats all him.But Nope i did not fall for that one .And Golden Pant's Michael I had the feeling that was NOT Michael either.It was more like Navi?

And by the way I JUST LOVED IT, TII.My little son was always jumping up from his seat,to dance So I let him dance,good think we was sitting next to the stairs.He just loves him,Just like I do

MJFOREVER wrote:Oke so im 20 minutes back home from the movie and its 1.00 in the night i cant sleep cause my head is spinning like crazy

First of all let me say OMG i loved IT im speechless It was amazing to se him like that haah so funny with the piano guy if something wasnt right haha his reaction priceless
And from other topic and reations i think there are different movies, i didnt see no crying dancers and stuff like that only mj, mj, mj and MJ:P

But let me get back to the point.
Im gonna start about the ears again and the o2 guy.
First the ears.
You got THE REAL MICHAEL in different close all the time without glasses(sometimes not) and ROUND EAR, yeah you read that right.
And im sure about that cause i asked it twise to my friend and he sad it to 'IU see a round ear'
Then you got orange pants, mangled ear,only wearing glasses, o2 feeling michael, (he wore two different jackets, the one with the orange pant under it and another, im gonna look for that )

Oke i was paying a lot of attention to the ears when you could see them very well.
Now first i was looking at the ears and couldnt se it very well because of the headset so i was like nevermind, BUT then there were clips of mj with a little ear(music stuff) and a microfone.
As i was looking at the real mj without glasses i was stunned of what i saw, A ROUND EAR
Then we had orange pants always wearing sunglasses mj and same ear, microfone blablabla AND GUES WHAT A MANGLED EAR
i almost scream cause i was exited I know what i saw and i even asked my friend twice if he also saw it, and he was looking at me like are you crazy when i almost screamed of joy
The orange pants mj you see only a few times in the beginning an he gives me a o2 guy feeling(not a mj feeling )

CALL ME CRAZY OR I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA SAY TO ME BUT THATS WHAT I HAVE SEEN.
And after the movie im now 100% sure our i love you more is still with us

Now im gonna sleep in 15 minutes so i will say the rest tomorrow, please give youre oppinions and thoughts if you have seen the movie(or not:P)

yeah im agree with you
i pay attention for the ear .. very hard ..
but i can find the differences ..
orange pants guys .. not michael (for me)
and for me .. their voice .. when they're talking (not singing) is different .. real michael have a deeper voice ...
and the orange pants guys .. have higger pitch voice ...
well that's my opinion ...
and i feel .. few song performance is lipsing ....

This ear does not look mangled however it makes me think of Dr. Spock from the old Star Trek series. The microphone twists it toward a slight point.

wandulka wrote:Mangled ear? Like this? It's because of the microphone.

IMHO, it was all Michael. I don't think there were any doubles at all. I LOVED the movie...it was amazing!!!

It was all Michael, if you ask me. No doubles in this movie.

wandulka wrote:Mangled ear? Like this? It's because of the microphone.

READ MY POST BETTER PLEASE he had a different ear thing, a ear piece that you have with a microphone, the thing that you can put in your ear and then the can hear there self(you know what i mean)
It was so funny when he used it hahaha he didnt like it he isnt used to that ear thing(sorry for the spelling)

marsheliamorgan wrote:this is what i had THOUGHT i spotted,orange pants mj in beginning,didnt and wasnt really doing ANY mj dance moves,but,i thought maybe i was just excited about being out and seeing movie and couldnt focus,then when they did the 3 shots on one screen,i was (this is SO EMBARRASSING FOR ME TO ADMIT)checking out his butt,and all butts looked different to me,the black pants being the real mj,please dont get upset or attackme,i was just observing and thought this of course,i was PRETTY interested in the booty so i may have been just alittle distracted.

I was looking at it to the black pants was carring a very nice booty big one

techdiva wrote:I'd looked at JonellStartv video about the This is it movie. She pointed out there were 5 different MJ's. Here's the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXw9PH71M_0

Also, I purchased the 36 page booklet photos from the This is it movie. These photos display MJ without sunglasses and you do not see the guy with orange pants or the guy in the black and silver jacket singing Human Nature. These photos are the real MJ. I do believe when you say that MJ is still with us. Even Kenny Ortega has given a clue when he had an interview on the Morning Show with Harry Smith. He said that MJ and him work in the editing room hours and weeks on the movie. He also indicated at the Memorial service that MJ was with them less than a week ago. How could that be when MJ died on June 25th and the memorial service was July 7th. That's 12 days.

I only think there is one and thats organge pants man:P, ohw BTW I THINK I KNOW THE OTHER ONE he had a golden jacket i think you see him only 3 times or something(thats also the orange pants guy).

I really believe all the MJ's in the film were ONE.
I just don't believe Michael would let a BODY DOUBLE give orders for his curtain call lol

Also, watch what you say about the supposed "doubles" because how are you sure they aren't MJ? I just don't take kindly to people insulting him lol

HeavyHearts wrote:Also, watch what you say about the supposed "doubles" because how are you sure they aren't MJ? I just don't take kindly to people insulting him lol

I think he was very odd and i saw some differents in the orange pants mj IMO
And i dont insulting him(i hope not)if you feel like that im sorry
I enjoyed every second of the movie 02 guy or not if it was possible i would buy 1000 tickets and see it 1000 times

HeavyHearts wrote:Also, watch what you say about the supposed "doubles" because how are you sure they aren't MJ? I just don't take kindly to people insulting him lol

That's why I don't usually like reading these threads.

The earpiece was something like this one
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsround/image/earpiece416bbc.jpg

But he took it off when i was watching the ear so i saw it with and witout the earpiece and i saw a mangled and a round ear

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:

HeavyHearts wrote:Also, watch what you say about the supposed "doubles" because how are you sure they aren't MJ? I just don't take kindly to people insulting him lol

That's why I don't usually like reading these threads.

I dotn think i insulted him i only said that i think his a little bit odd thats all i dont think im insulting anybody with it

I don't think you insulted him either. My post wasn't directed at you...just the double theory posts in general.

Oke i was paying a lot of attention to the ears when you could see them very well.
Now first i was looking at the ears and couldnt se it very well because of the headset so i was like nevermind, BUT then there were clips of mj with a little ear(music stuff) and a microfone.
As i was looking at the real mj without glasses i was stunned of what i saw, A ROUND EAR
Then we had orange pants always wearing sunglasses mj and same ear, microfone blablabla AND GUES WHAT A MANGLED EAR
i almost scream cause i was exited I know what i saw and i even asked my friend twice if he also saw it, and he was looking at me like are you crazy when i almost screamed of joy
The orange pants mj you see only a few times in the beginning an he gives me a o2 guy feeling(not a mj feeling )

I dont think you are crazy - The orange pants guy during the The Way you make Me Feel song didnt seem to be Michael to me. The moves and mennerisms just didnt click with me. The only time I felt confident that it WAS INDEED MICHAEL was during the scenes without the sun glasses.

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:I don't think you insulted him either. My post wasn't directed at you...just the double theory posts in general.

CantStopLovingU wrote:Oke i was paying a lot of attention to the ears when you could see them very well.
Now first i was looking at the ears and couldnt se it very well because of the headset so i was like nevermind, BUT then there were clips of mj with a little ear(music stuff) and a microfone.
As i was looking at the real mj without glasses i was stunned of what i saw, A ROUND EAR
Then we had orange pants always wearing sunglasses mj and same ear, microfone blablabla AND GUES WHAT A MANGLED EAR
i almost scream cause i was exited I know what i saw and i even asked my friend twice if he also saw it, and he was looking at me like are you crazy when i almost screamed of joy
The orange pants mj you see only a few times in the beginning an he gives me a o2 guy feeling(not a mj feeling )

I dont think you are crazy - The orange pants guy during the The Way you make Me Feel song didnt seem to be Michael to me. The moves and mennerisms just didnt click with me. The only time I felt confident that it WAS INDEED MICHAEL was during the scenes without the sun glasses.

But i think in some shots with the glasses is him also cause he takes them of sometimes and i dotn know he gives me a michael feeling the orange pants and he was wearing a golden jacket sometimes(im not sure about this one) doesnt give me that feeling

I also think orange pants guy is MJ...I know what you mean about the orange pants guy's dance moves....but he is rehearsing here, he's carefree and doing lots of improvising, sometimes it's even obvious that he's not interested in carrying out the full routine, just get the feel, even try out new things and see how they will look later on...Well, that's the way I see it. But I will be watching the movie again tonight so I will pay extra attention just in case!

dontmakeitfactual wrote:I also think orange pants guy is MJ...I know what you mean about the orange pants guy's dance moves....but he is rehearsing here, he's carefree and doing lots of improvising, sometimes it's even obvious that he's not interested in carrying out the full routine, just get the feel, even try out new things and see how they will look later on...Well, that's the way I see it. But I will be watching the movie again tonight so I will pay extra attention just in case!

I didnt pay much attention to the crazy dance moves to be honest i just loved it crazy moves or not but ther ei just someting odd about the orange pants guy but it' s your oppinion so i respect that

Yep, and I respect yours too it's good we discuss everything!

techdiva wrote:I'd looked at JonellStartv video about the This is it movie. She pointed out there were 5 different MJ's. Here's the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXw9PH71M_0

Also, I purchased the 36 page booklet photos from the This is it movie. These photos display MJ without sunglasses and you do not see the guy with orange pants or the guy in the black and silver jacket singing Human Nature. These photos are the real MJ. I do believe when you say that MJ is still with us. Even Kenny Ortega has given a clue when he had an interview on the Morning Show with Harry Smith. He said that MJ and him work in the editing room hours and weeks on the movie. He also indicated at the Memorial service that MJ was with them less than a week ago. How could that be when MJ died on June 25th and the memorial service was July 7th. That's 12 days.

you're right. I also have the booklet and I noticed it too. No pictures of the orange pants man, why because they know in a way that MJ fans would know that it is not him.

Did the booklet have pictures showing MJ wearing a fitted red leather jacket?

suzzie wrote:

techdiva wrote:I'd looked at JonellStartv video about the This is it movie. She pointed out there were 5 different MJ's. Here's the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXw9PH71M_0

Also, I purchased the 36 page booklet photos from the This is it movie. These photos display MJ without sunglasses and you do not see the guy with orange pants or the guy in the black and silver jacket singing Human Nature. These photos are the real MJ. I do believe when you say that MJ is still with us. Even Kenny Ortega has given a clue when he had an interview on the Morning Show with Harry Smith. He said that MJ and him work in the editing room hours and weeks on the movie. He also indicated at the Memorial service that MJ was with them less than a week ago. How could that be when MJ died on June 25th and the memorial service was July 7th. That's 12 days.

you're right. I also have the booklet and I noticed it too. No pictures of the orange pants man, why because they know in a way that MJ fans would know that it is not him.

I think you're right. I believe there were a few doubles in the movie. For example, I think the "pointed-shoulders" costume was a way to disguise the double with narrower shoulders than Michael. Just my guess.

MJFOREVER wrote:The earpiece was something like this one
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsround/image/earpiece416bbc.jpg

But he took it off when i was watching the ear so i saw it with and witout the earpiece and i saw a mangled and a round ear

Hehe talking about the earpiece thing Michael was very funny when he said that with the earpiece is just like having a fist iniside his ear. I think Michael don't like the earpiece though.

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:

MJFOREVER wrote:The earpiece was something like this one
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsround/image/earpiece416bbc.jpg

But he took it off when i was watching the ear so i saw it with and witout the earpiece and i saw a mangled and a round ear

Hehe talking about the earpiece thing Michael was very funny when he said that with the earpiece is just like having a fist iniside his ear. I think Michael don't like the earpiece though.

haha yeah that was so funny i was laughing very hard and also at the parts were things werent going perfect his reaction omg priceless

MJFOREVER wrote:

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:

MJFOREVER wrote:The earpiece was something like this one
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsround/image/earpiece416bbc.jpg

But he took it off when i was watching the ear so i saw it with and witout the earpiece and i saw a mangled and a round ear

Hehe talking about the earpiece thing Michael was very funny when he said that with the earpiece is just like having a fist iniside his ear. I think Michael don't like the earpiece though.

haha yeah that was so funny i was laughing very hard and also at the parts were things werent going perfect his reaction omg priceless

Hehe yes! Ditto! At first I thought he forgets the lyrics that is why he can't continue, but after he said that it's because of the earpiece and I smile! He's cute though!

I thought the orange pants Mj was "off" -- I couldn't quite place my finger on it. Was that the "MJ" that was singing and his mouth wasn't moving? I don't remember.

I haven't watched the movie yet...but you guys are confusing hahaha...one says MJ was the one with the orange pants..the other that it was a double...the other that there were no doubles...maybe we dont know MJ as good as we think we do...LOL