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some thoughts on the twin theory
Well since july i watched MJDH but could never join and in my heart i feel that MJ is alive..Since his death i have watched almost every interview, read every book and tried to watch every youtube video of him and since his "death" have noticed that there seem to be 2 of everything with him...i have told my family that will listen that in alot of videos and the martin bashir interview there are at least 2 mjs and even with things that people of said about him varies to were you dont know what is real of fake....now with that said i did read the twin theory and i am NOT 100% sure about this because there are waayyy to many unanswered questions as to the whys and hows and quit fankly it doesnt make sense..BUT i will point out some things that i have noticed that go alone with the twin theory just for arguement sake but with this hoax the only thing that could shock me is if he really is dead...
The first thing that stood out to me about the blog was when they posted the clips of right glove/left glove mj is that left glove mj doesnt sing live..but right glove does...that may be nothing but it could also be something..heres another clip where one is live and the other is not..also look at the difference in ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQTj5OzQMy8 sings live at the end..bigger ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFglYUe055A& doesnt sing live... little ears
now i am going to post pictures from the same shoots but looks like difference mjs..same outfits and everything
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/i/mj1one.jpg if you compare pix this one has different ears and also notice the scar on his right cheek and also his nose looks slightly smaller
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/i/mj2two.jpg now this mj doesnt have the scar on his cheek..i always thought he had a scar because i have seen so many clips of him with is in the 70s and i figured when he got lighter it went away
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img121/7168/mj1f.jpg again on this pix you can see the scar
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img69/508/mj2y.jpg on this one you can not see the scar..also with the bigger hair you cant see the ears but you can see a difference in afros if you compare these 2 pictures and the first two pictures
I also noticed in some of the court pictures the smaller mj has the brown nails that every1 nows he has and the taller one does not..another thing was in J. randy whatever his faces book he talks about how Jordan went to see mj and he was walking but the day before he did the soul train awards sitting down and was in a wheel chair...well wheel chair mike has brown nails and IF there is 2 mikes that other one was the one that didnt before and was walkn around neverland with him and it wasnt really a PR stunt
sorry so long but i have been thinking about all this stuff for so long...lol
The first thing that stood out to me about the blog was when they posted the clips of right glove/left glove mj is that left glove mj doesnt sing live..but right glove does...that may be nothing but it could also be something..heres another clip where one is live and the other is not..also look at the difference in ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQTj5OzQMy8 sings live at the end..bigger ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFglYUe055A& doesnt sing live... little ears
now i am going to post pictures from the same shoots but looks like difference mjs..same outfits and everything
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/i/mj1one.jpg if you compare pix this one has different ears and also notice the scar on his right cheek and also his nose looks slightly smaller
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/i/mj2two.jpg now this mj doesnt have the scar on his cheek..i always thought he had a scar because i have seen so many clips of him with is in the 70s and i figured when he got lighter it went away
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img121/7168/mj1f.jpg again on this pix you can see the scar
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img69/508/mj2y.jpg on this one you can not see the scar..also with the bigger hair you cant see the ears but you can see a difference in afros if you compare these 2 pictures and the first two pictures
I also noticed in some of the court pictures the smaller mj has the brown nails that every1 nows he has and the taller one does not..another thing was in J. randy whatever his faces book he talks about how Jordan went to see mj and he was walking but the day before he did the soul train awards sitting down and was in a wheel chair...well wheel chair mike has brown nails and IF there is 2 mikes that other one was the one that didnt before and was walkn around neverland with him and it wasnt really a PR stunt
sorry so long but i have been thinking about all this stuff for so long...lol
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the first sets of picture's links dont work..sorry
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img33/9848/mj1one.jpg
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img33/3792/mj2two.jpg
other things i noticed were
the bodyguards
...when he caught on fire we know MIko was the one to rush to him ect. and i also thought he was his bodyguard but then there is bill i think his name is that was his boadyguard since his J5 days... 2 bodyguard for 2 different people???
meat vs no meat
i thought for sure that he was a vegan but then Magic says that he seen mj eat a bucket of KFC and also when he was on trial the private planes he flew said that him and the kids food of choice was also KFC..thats 2 totally different lifestyles
health nut vs cigs/wine
so when a topic was posted about mj smoking most seemed to agree he was to much of a health nut to smoke but we also have seen atleast 2 pictures with him with cigs around and also in the court doc its states he DID drink..but he didnt want the kids to know so it was out of soda cans and that he had a wine sellar at home....so did he indulge alittle of not??
religious vs not really
now the biggest thing that boggles my mind with mj was how he was a jehovah until 1988 but made off the wall?? jehovahs are not suppose to listen to music with sexual themes or dance sexual but yet he not only sang and dances sexual he even wrote a very sexual song, dont stop until you get enough! thats does not add up to me if he was so strict with his beliefs he would not risk them by writing that song when they are not even suppose to think about dating let alone "rocking with you" off the wall is his most sexual album to date working day and nite, rock with you, its the falling in love, dont stop all are about sex but yet he was "spreading the word" everyday in his downtime?
AGAIN im really not fully buying this theory but it does sound like we have 2 different people because i really cant see someone not doing anything in there lives fully..i mean half @ss religious, half @ss heathy, half @ss vegan...lol but i think this should be discussed a lil more cause they very well could be onto something
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img33/9848/mj1one.jpg
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img33/3792/mj2two.jpg
other things i noticed were
the bodyguards
...when he caught on fire we know MIko was the one to rush to him ect. and i also thought he was his bodyguard but then there is bill i think his name is that was his boadyguard since his J5 days... 2 bodyguard for 2 different people???
meat vs no meat
i thought for sure that he was a vegan but then Magic says that he seen mj eat a bucket of KFC and also when he was on trial the private planes he flew said that him and the kids food of choice was also KFC..thats 2 totally different lifestyles
health nut vs cigs/wine
so when a topic was posted about mj smoking most seemed to agree he was to much of a health nut to smoke but we also have seen atleast 2 pictures with him with cigs around and also in the court doc its states he DID drink..but he didnt want the kids to know so it was out of soda cans and that he had a wine sellar at home....so did he indulge alittle of not??
religious vs not really
now the biggest thing that boggles my mind with mj was how he was a jehovah until 1988 but made off the wall?? jehovahs are not suppose to listen to music with sexual themes or dance sexual but yet he not only sang and dances sexual he even wrote a very sexual song, dont stop until you get enough! thats does not add up to me if he was so strict with his beliefs he would not risk them by writing that song when they are not even suppose to think about dating let alone "rocking with you" off the wall is his most sexual album to date working day and nite, rock with you, its the falling in love, dont stop all are about sex but yet he was "spreading the word" everyday in his downtime?
AGAIN im really not fully buying this theory but it does sound like we have 2 different people because i really cant see someone not doing anything in there lives fully..i mean half @ss religious, half @ss heathy, half @ss vegan...lol but i think this should be discussed a lil more cause they very well could be onto something
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I agree with you about the MJ twin theory. I don't believe there's twin, but I believe there is a double. Remember when the dr said they did 49 plastic surgeries on MJ. I feel that these were done for the double.
Why would Joe and Katherine keep this a secret for 51 years. As money hungry Joe is, there would've been a J6 instead of J5. While watching the Martin Bashir interview "Living with Michael Jackson", I did notice there had to be two MJs. The one that was traveling around the country and the one that was in Miami. He looked totally different. I have attached a youtube video of the many faces of MJ. Just check out the eyes. They do change in size.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvjVEvT5KFo
I do agree this does need be discussed further.
Why would Joe and Katherine keep this a secret for 51 years. As money hungry Joe is, there would've been a J6 instead of J5. While watching the Martin Bashir interview "Living with Michael Jackson", I did notice there had to be two MJs. The one that was traveling around the country and the one that was in Miami. He looked totally different. I have attached a youtube video of the many faces of MJ. Just check out the eyes. They do change in size.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvjVEvT5KFo
I do agree this does need be discussed further.
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I find this theory pretty ridiculous.
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I do believe a body double..
DO you watched a movie called "The prestige" hugh jackman & Christian Bale..
They did a body double in their life, they shared everything..And one thing that make me awake is Bale once said "We kept replacing for each other, so none of us was real and none of us was fake."
Got my point? I always asking myself why sometimes he looked like a man that I completely adored and another time he seemed to lost his magic..I watched Bashir documentary for a hundreds times. AND YES i kept asking myself why there were part that I loved him SOOOOOOOO and there were part when i dont really loved.
They kept changing their place, so no one will recognize. If he only used a decoy when he didnt want to appear people will recognize. If they kept changing role, people will think sometimes he used to be this way bu sometimes that way.
Just my opinion, but like I said perhaps we are right
DO you watched a movie called "The prestige" hugh jackman & Christian Bale..
They did a body double in their life, they shared everything..And one thing that make me awake is Bale once said "We kept replacing for each other, so none of us was real and none of us was fake."
Got my point? I always asking myself why sometimes he looked like a man that I completely adored and another time he seemed to lost his magic..I watched Bashir documentary for a hundreds times. AND YES i kept asking myself why there were part that I loved him SOOOOOOOO and there were part when i dont really loved.
They kept changing their place, so no one will recognize. If he only used a decoy when he didnt want to appear people will recognize. If they kept changing role, people will think sometimes he used to be this way bu sometimes that way.
Just my opinion, but like I said perhaps we are right
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Yes It make sense Wendy ..... And Mike had always says that he was a magician LOL!!!!
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the twin theory makes a lot of sence to me!!
don't know if there was really a twin, but i think there was a relative or a double, who was the king of pop together with michael..
coud be wrong ofcourse, but it makes a lot of sence to me...
don't know if there was really a twin, but i think there was a relative or a double, who was the king of pop together with michael..
coud be wrong ofcourse, but it makes a lot of sence to me...
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You made a lot of sense Wendy Plus, Michael loves magic, etc... this is all just a big illusion.
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yea i dont know if there was a real twin from birth but something is off physically and personality wise with what we see and know about him...and we all know he controls what we see so maybe he is making it obvious there is 2 of them with the whole double therory in general...francisca81 wrote:the twin theory makes a lot of sence to me!!
don't know if there was really a twin, but i think there was a relative or a double, who was the king of pop together with michael..
coud be wrong ofcourse, but it makes a lot of sence to me...
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Yes. Just precisely the same with "The Prestige" movie..
Bale's wife in that movie said : "There are days when i felt you really love me, and there are days that it seems you dont really mean it when you say I love You..
No one is real, no one is fake..Kept changing, and kept replacing so that the people around him know both of Michael..and they will said, sometimes he was fun, sometimes he was funny, but sometimes he was so shy and easily embarrassed..
People would think both character is MJ personality Make a lot of sense to me
Bale's wife in that movie said : "There are days when i felt you really love me, and there are days that it seems you dont really mean it when you say I love You..
No one is real, no one is fake..Kept changing, and kept replacing so that the people around him know both of Michael..and they will said, sometimes he was fun, sometimes he was funny, but sometimes he was so shy and easily embarrassed..
People would think both character is MJ personality Make a lot of sense to me
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i never seen the movie your speaking off but its sounds cool...but something is off with those pictures i posted and they go back way the hoax or could of/ would of used doubles and no1 is taking that into considerationMs. Wendy wrote:Yes. Just precisely the same with "The Prestige" movie..
Bale's wife in that movie said : "There are days when i felt you really love me, and there are days that it seems you dont really mean it when you say I love You..
No one is real, no one is fake..Kept changing, and kept replacing so that the people around him know both of Michael..and they will said, sometimes he was fun, sometimes he was funny, but sometimes he was so shy and easily embarrassed..
People would think both character is MJ personality Make a lot of sense to me
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I must admit that the twin theory is completely outside of the box thinking. But I also believe that anything can happen. But I am a strong believer in the double theory. I feel it is possible. We don't really know what happen behind the scenes. But I also realize how the pictures posted above would raise eyebrows and lead to doubts. I myself have question what I was looking at sometimes. For all we know this could have been and maybe still is a big illusion playing out infront of our eyes.
IDK...Just random thinking here
IDK...Just random thinking here
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Bale was magician in that movie..He was so popular coz he played some kind of show that no one could imitate..Everybody loves him
The key is no one knew he had a twin bro..thats the key, he only able to do that trick coz no body even imagine he had a win bro
The key is no one knew he had a twin bro..thats the key, he only able to do that trick coz no body even imagine he had a win bro
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We have been discussing (I should say touching the surface) of the twin/double for quite some time now. It is like we see it with our logical and rational side but then our subjectional(emotions and personal opinions on Michael) side take's over. Well I have to say ever since june 25th when they were coming out with all kinds of magazine coverage on MJ they sometimes showed the face changes of Michael. I would sit there and stare at those pages and go over and over and over them, I simply couldn't understand how he went from one to the other in a few of the pics. It was like something was litteray impossible even with plastic surgery.
Then I started purchasing every Michael Jackson book I could get my hands on and there is the 1 by Michael Heatley called Michael Jackson 1958-2009 Life of a legend that has probably as much pics as text in it. Well in that book, the pics with the dates really throw me off. Sometimes they will say that a pic of him in darker skin was i.e. of 1984 and then one of him with the lighter skin was from 1983. ???? At first I thought it was just a misprint or something. Then I was looking at other pics andI was embarrassed to admit even to myself I sometimes couldn't make the difference between Michael and one of his brothers in the Jackson 5 pics. It was like I felt the book was too much for me cause I found it didn't add up and I put it aside to read other ones that I could understand.
So I do wonder, maybe we should look closer at his own brothers to see if maybe one of them dont look like Michael more than we thought. With make-up to lighten the skin maybe one ressembles Michael a lot more than we think.
The possibility I saw was maybe those 2 other Jackson(not related apparently) dudes who did participate in jackson's group before alledgedly beeing replaced by real jackson brothers shared the Michael role with Michael. My brain is over heating with all this, I keep checking my sanity cause sometimes I wonder...
Then I started purchasing every Michael Jackson book I could get my hands on and there is the 1 by Michael Heatley called Michael Jackson 1958-2009 Life of a legend that has probably as much pics as text in it. Well in that book, the pics with the dates really throw me off. Sometimes they will say that a pic of him in darker skin was i.e. of 1984 and then one of him with the lighter skin was from 1983. ???? At first I thought it was just a misprint or something. Then I was looking at other pics andI was embarrassed to admit even to myself I sometimes couldn't make the difference between Michael and one of his brothers in the Jackson 5 pics. It was like I felt the book was too much for me cause I found it didn't add up and I put it aside to read other ones that I could understand.
So I do wonder, maybe we should look closer at his own brothers to see if maybe one of them dont look like Michael more than we thought. With make-up to lighten the skin maybe one ressembles Michael a lot more than we think.
The possibility I saw was maybe those 2 other Jackson(not related apparently) dudes who did participate in jackson's group before alledgedly beeing replaced by real jackson brothers shared the Michael role with Michael. My brain is over heating with all this, I keep checking my sanity cause sometimes I wonder...
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Could someone help me, I want to scan a pic to show everyone what I mean and then post it here, but I dont know how???
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Ok well I found some didn't find the one I wanted to 1st post but here take a look, the first thing I wonder is why are there 6 jacksons at the table, from what I can see, they make mention of don king but he is standing up and we can barely see him.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50944106/Hulton-Archive
Now in this one, the one hugging Michael could kinda look like him I think with the proper modifications, but then the brother beside him, to your left, has the cleft in the chin.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50946399/Hulton-Archive
Look at this one, they eyes of the dead center brother, dont those eyes kinda look somewhat familiar? IDK, but....
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50944123/Hulton-Archive
Now correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they were called the jackson 5 because there were 5 members, well in the following pic there are 6 brothers participating in an act. Is is just me or all of a sudden it seems like the number 6 is coming up a lot here?
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/90884423/WireImage
Here we go again, a pic of jackson 5 showing 6 of the members!?! And look at the brother with a feret or something like that on his shoulder and compare his features to Michael's in that pic. I just find that one of them seems to have potential to be a Michael double with the appropriate changes and make-up.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50721299/Time-Life-Pictures
If I find any other interesting ones I'll post them later on.
So what does everyone think of those pics? I need opinions plz. Be open minded.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50944106/Hulton-Archive
Now in this one, the one hugging Michael could kinda look like him I think with the proper modifications, but then the brother beside him, to your left, has the cleft in the chin.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50946399/Hulton-Archive
Look at this one, they eyes of the dead center brother, dont those eyes kinda look somewhat familiar? IDK, but....
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50944123/Hulton-Archive
Now correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they were called the jackson 5 because there were 5 members, well in the following pic there are 6 brothers participating in an act. Is is just me or all of a sudden it seems like the number 6 is coming up a lot here?
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/90884423/WireImage
Here we go again, a pic of jackson 5 showing 6 of the members!?! And look at the brother with a feret or something like that on his shoulder and compare his features to Michael's in that pic. I just find that one of them seems to have potential to be a Michael double with the appropriate changes and make-up.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50721299/Time-Life-Pictures
If I find any other interesting ones I'll post them later on.
So what does everyone think of those pics? I need opinions plz. Be open minded.
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Ok well I found some didn't find the one I wanted to 1st post but here
take a look, the first thing I wonder is why are there 6 jacksons at
the table, from what I can see, they make mention of don king but he is
standing up and we can barely see him.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50944106/Hulton-Archive
Now
in this one, the one hugging Michael could kinda look like him I think
with the proper modifications, but then the brother beside him, to your
left, has the cleft in the chin.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50946399/Hulton-Archive
Look at this one, they eyes of the dead center brother, dont those eyes kinda look somewhat familiar? IDK, but....
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50944123/Hulton-Archive
Now
correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they were called the jackson 5
because there were 5 members, well in the following pic there are 6
brothers participating in an act. Is is just me or all of a sudden it
seems like the number 6 is coming up a lot here?
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/90884423/WireImage
Here
we go again, a pic of jackson 5 showing 6 of the members!?! And look at
the brother with a feret or something like that on his shoulder and
compare his features to Michael's in that pic. I just find that one of
them seems to have potential to be a Michael double with the
appropriate changes and make-up.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50721299/Time-Life-Pictures
If I find any other interesting ones I'll post them later on.
So what does everyone think of those pics? I need opinions plz. Be open minded.
Well, they were called The Jackson 5 until Randy became another member of the group. Then they were simply The Jacksons, because it wouldn't make sense since there were 6 of them LMAO. Randy was the youngest member of the group and yes, he and Michael looked very much alike. You didn't know about him? And no, he's not Michael's double This is Mike and Randy in 2005.
Anyway, the twin or the double theory or whatever you call it is in my opinion just ridiculous. Just think about it...
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francisca81 wrote:the twin theory makes a lot of sence to me!!
don't know if there was really a twin, but i think there was a relative or a double, who was the king of pop together with michael..
coud be wrong ofcourse, but it makes a lot of sence to me...
I absolutely agree with you!
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@wandulka....faking your death is ridiculous...just think about that..lol
@jenn about the skin color:
I agree..if u look @ captain eo he was hella light, that doesn't look lik mike 2 me, this was 1985
Now look @ liberian girl...he was. The color he always was...this was 1989
Now look @ the photo used @ the memorial photo n the yellow..he was lite..also doesn't look like mike 2 me there
Do u guys see where I'm goin in relation 2 the twin therory??
Ill post the pictures when I get off work
@jenn about the skin color:
I agree..if u look @ captain eo he was hella light, that doesn't look lik mike 2 me, this was 1985
Now look @ liberian girl...he was. The color he always was...this was 1989
Now look @ the photo used @ the memorial photo n the yellow..he was lite..also doesn't look like mike 2 me there
Do u guys see where I'm goin in relation 2 the twin therory??
Ill post the pictures when I get off work
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i have seen pictures of michael when he was little and on some pics he had a beauty-spot of his face on the left side and on some pics there was no spot
i have a fav. vid of that on my you tube but i dont know how to link it
i have a fav. vid of that on my you tube but i dont know how to link it
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You think it's "ridiculous?" That's kind of rude. I really wouldn't use that word since the hoax was probably the only way for Michael to escape for a while. Nothing ridiculous about that.wandulka....faking your death is ridiculous...just think about that..lol
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I was being sarcastic....lol I'm sayn if u believe he faked his death why would this be so far off..to outsiders all of this sounds crazy and escape...lol escape 4rm what??? 2009 is like 16 years late 4 that
@mariz..I posted pix with him with the scar and without
@mariz..I posted pix with him with the scar and without
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i don't believe in the twin theory
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@misha86 Alright, sorry, I didn't get it LMAO. Anyway, I do think that the double theory is far off. What about Michael's kids? Family? Friends? People say there were 3 MJ's in Martin Bashir documentary. Poor Prince, Paris and Blanket then. 3 daddies. Heh. The fact that Michael doesn't look the same in every picture and the fact that he doesn't aways behave the same doesn't make him someone else. If it does, that means that we all have doubles, LOL. Seriously, you guys are making a big deal out of this.
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mariza wrote:i have seen pictures of michael when he was little and on some pics he had a beauty-spot of his face on the left side and on some pics there was no spot
i have a fav. vid of that on my you tube but i dont know how to link it
I would love to see that, you can just copy the link and paste it here
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this is not about looking different n pictures...if u watch the bashir program u wil see clearly. See 3 differnent men..very obvious ones 2...I wish people would open there eyes, its not that hard 2 seewandulka wrote:@misha86 Alright, sorry, I didn't get it LMAO. Anyway, I do think that the double theory is far off. What about Michael's kids? Family? Friends? People say there were 3 MJ's in Martin Bashir documentary. Poor Prince, Paris and Blanket then. 3 daddies. Heh. The fact that Michael doesn't look the same in every picture and the fact that he doesn't aways behave the same doesn't make him someone else. If it does, that means that we all have doubles, LOL. Seriously, you guys are making a big deal out of this.
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techdiva wrote:I agree with you about the MJ twin theory. I don't believe there's twin, but I believe there is a double. Remember when the dr said they did 49 plastic surgeries on MJ. I feel that these were done for the double.
Why would Joe and Katherine keep this a secret for 51 years. As money hungry Joe is, there would've been a J6 instead of J5. While watching the Martin Bashir interview "Living with Michael Jackson", I did notice there had to be two MJs. The one that was traveling around the country and the one that was in Miami. He looked totally different. I have attached a youtube video of the many faces of MJ. Just check out the eyes. They do change in size.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvjVEvT5KFo
I do agree this does need be discussed further.
i can't agree more !
yeah .. i have same idea for this one ..
plastic surgery, LWMJ, and the others ...
i don't believe it's twin ..
but i do believe it's a double !
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@misha86 and jen77
Don't let other people make you feel ridiculous. I saw what you can see in July.
Listen to the single Ben first line and second very carefully.
Don't let other people make you feel ridiculous. I saw what you can see in July.
Listen to the single Ben first line and second very carefully.
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Leaf wrote:@misha86 and jen77
Don't let other people make you feel ridiculous. I saw what you can see in July.
Listen to the single Ben first line and second very carefully.
Ben, the two of us need look no more
We both found what we were looking for
With a friend to call my own
I'll never be alone
And you, my friend will see
You've got a friend in me
(You've got a friend in me)
maybe thats why he liked this song so much...good catch
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misha86 wrote:yea i dont know if there was a real twin from birth but something is off physically and personality wise with what we see and know about him...and we all know he controls what we see so maybe he is making it obvious there is 2 of them with the whole double therory in general...francisca81 wrote:the twin theory makes a lot of sence to me!!
don't know if there was really a twin, but i think there was a relative or a double, who was the king of pop together with michael..
coud be wrong ofcourse, but it makes a lot of sence to me...
yes that what i was thinking also.
i also get the feeling he's making it obvious now that there are two of them it's like he(or they ) want us to notice it... everything seem to be in doubles!!
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Did you check out message on the back of the This is it cd? It says "Always great to sing with my brother" instead of brothers.
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Always great to sing with my brother" i
It just get crazier and crazier.
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francisca81 wrote:misha86 wrote:yea i dont know if there was a real twin from birth but something is off physically and personality wise with what we see and know about him...and we all know he controls what we see so maybe he is making it obvious there is 2 of them with the whole double therory in general...francisca81 wrote:the twin theory makes a lot of sence to me!!
don't know if there was really a twin, but i think there was a relative or a double, who was the king of pop together with michael..
coud be wrong ofcourse, but it makes a lot of sence to me...
yes that what i was thinking also.
i also get the feeling he's making it obvious now that there are two of them it's like he(or they ) want us to notice it... everything seem to be in doubles!!
I absolutely agree with that, and the message on the back of This Is It ''Always great to sing with my Brother'' made me think and believe the twin theory even more!
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So are you guys saying that one of his 'twin' passed away. I mean if it's really one of the twin, then I guess it's very sad as well... Because what we had been seeing might and may always had been 2 of them, just that they interchange very often.
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icy55 wrote:So are you guys saying that one of his 'twin' passed away. I mean if it's really one of the twin, then I guess it's very sad as well... Because what we had been seeing might and may always had been 2 of them, just that they interchange very often.
no, nobody has to be passed away
first of all, i'm speaking of a twin, but it could also be a relative or double. it just makes it easier to talk about.
just someone who was the king of pop with michael together..
so maybe( just my thouhts) the''king of pop'' has died. so not a person, but the creation, the act. hope you understand what i mean
could be possible.
we don't know what happined. maybe they(if there's a they) desided to go seperate ways, from now on.
and they disided to use this, to make a big differnce in the world... created something, that will change the way people think..
just thinking out loud here
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No one died but the King Of Pop died symbolically.
Oh that was what Francisca was saying
Oh that was what Francisca was saying
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MJLover1990 wrote:No one died but the King Of Pop died symbolically.
Oh that was what Francisca was saying
something like that yes
could be very possible IMO!
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francisca81 wrote:MJLover1990 wrote:No one died but the King Of Pop died symbolically.
Oh that was what Francisca was saying
something like that yes
could be very possible IMO!
I agree with you 100%!
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Just a thought... what if the "always great to sing with my brother" was directed at Brandon Jackson ? The one who died? Wouldnt that make sense - could be a clue?
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Maybe it was meant to be brothers but was put brother instead to give off a clue that he is talking about himself. I don't know if i am making sense but just throwing that out there.
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misha86 wrote:Well since july i watched MJDH but could never join and in my heart i feel that MJ is alive..Since his death i have watched almost every interview, read every book and tried to watch every youtube video of him and since his "death" have noticed that there seem to be 2 of everything with him...i have told my family that will listen that in alot of videos and the martin bashir interview there are at least 2 mjs and even with things that people of said about him varies to were you dont know what is real of fake....now with that said i did read the twin theory and i am NOT 100% sure about this because there are waayyy to many unanswered questions as to the whys and hows and quit fankly it doesnt make sense..BUT i will point out some things that i have noticed that go alone with the twin theory just for arguement sake but with this hoax the only thing that could shock me is if he really is dead...
The first thing that stood out to me about the blog was when they posted the clips of right glove/left glove mj is that left glove mj doesnt sing live..but right glove does...that may be nothing but it could also be something..heres another clip where one is live and the other is not..also look at the difference in ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQTj5OzQMy8 sings live at the end..bigger ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFglYUe055A& doesnt sing live... little ears
now i am going to post pictures from the same shoots but looks like difference mjs..same outfits and everything
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/i/mj1one.jpg if you compare pix this one has different ears and also notice the scar on his right cheek and also his nose looks slightly smaller
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/i/mj2two.jpg now this mj doesnt have the scar on his cheek..i always thought he had a scar because i have seen so many clips of him with is in the 70s and i figured when he got lighter it went away
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img121/7168/mj1f.jpg again on this pix you can see the scar
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img69/508/mj2y.jpg on this one you can not see the scar..also with the bigger hair you cant see the ears but you can see a difference in afros if you compare these 2 pictures and the first two pictures
I also noticed in some of the court pictures the smaller mj has the brown nails that every1 nows he has and the taller one does not..another thing was in J. randy whatever his faces book he talks about how Jordan went to see mj and he was walking but the day before he did the soul train awards sitting down and was in a wheel chair...well wheel chair mike has brown nails and IF there is 2 mikes that other one was the one that didnt before and was walkn around neverland with him and it wasnt really a PR stunt
sorry so long but i have been thinking about all this stuff for so long...lol
I did not yet read your whole post ( I will though! ) but after watching the 1st 2 You are not alone CLIPS - While watching the 2nd one in SEOUL - I immediately remembered a post that someone on her posted MONTHS AGo - I think she said that her and her mother had the DVD of this concert, and THEY BOTH NOTICED since they could slow it down and see it on a larger HIGH DEF Screen that Michael was clearly PUSHED ONTO THE STAGE from the shadows by some guys in suits.
As soon as I watched the SEOUL clip I saw what she was talking about. HE was clearly SHOVED PRETTY HARD ONTO THE STAGE.
That is really bothering me
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CantStopLovingU wrote:misha86 wrote:Well since july i watched MJDH but could never join and in my heart i feel that MJ is alive..Since his death i have watched almost every interview, read every book and tried to watch every youtube video of him and since his "death" have noticed that there seem to be 2 of everything with him...i have told my family that will listen that in alot of videos and the martin bashir interview there are at least 2 mjs and even with things that people of said about him varies to were you dont know what is real of fake....now with that said i did read the twin theory and i am NOT 100% sure about this because there are waayyy to many unanswered questions as to the whys and hows and quit fankly it doesnt make sense..BUT i will point out some things that i have noticed that go alone with the twin theory just for arguement sake but with this hoax the only thing that could shock me is if he really is dead...
The first thing that stood out to me about the blog was when they posted the clips of right glove/left glove mj is that left glove mj doesnt sing live..but right glove does...that may be nothing but it could also be something..heres another clip where one is live and the other is not..also look at the difference in ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQTj5OzQMy8 sings live at the end..bigger ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFglYUe055A& doesnt sing live... little ears
now i am going to post pictures from the same shoots but looks like difference mjs..same outfits and everything
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/i/mj1one.jpg if you compare pix this one has different ears and also notice the scar on his right cheek and also his nose looks slightly smaller
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/i/mj2two.jpg now this mj doesnt have the scar on his cheek..i always thought he had a scar because i have seen so many clips of him with is in the 70s and i figured when he got lighter it went away
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img121/7168/mj1f.jpg again on this pix you can see the scar
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img69/508/mj2y.jpg on this one you can not see the scar..also with the bigger hair you cant see the ears but you can see a difference in afros if you compare these 2 pictures and the first two pictures
I also noticed in some of the court pictures the smaller mj has the brown nails that every1 nows he has and the taller one does not..another thing was in J. randy whatever his faces book he talks about how Jordan went to see mj and he was walking but the day before he did the soul train awards sitting down and was in a wheel chair...well wheel chair mike has brown nails and IF there is 2 mikes that other one was the one that didnt before and was walkn around neverland with him and it wasnt really a PR stunt
sorry so long but i have been thinking about all this stuff for so long...lol
I did not yet read your whole post ( I will though! ) but after watching the 1st 2 You are not alone CLIPS - While watching the 2nd one in SEOUL - I immediately remembered a post that someone on her posted MONTHS AGo - I think she said that her and her mother had the DVD of this concert, and THEY BOTH NOTICED since they could slow it down and see it on a larger HIGH DEF Screen that Michael was clearly PUSHED ONTO THE STAGE from the shadows by some guys in suits.
As soon as I watched the SEOUL clip I saw what she was talking about. HE was clearly SHOVED PRETTY HARD ONTO THE STAGE.
That is really bothering me
your right! i didnt even see that before...this mike is thicker than the one from the first clip i posted also...i know that they are ladies on here who love they gold pant and i have seen him very thick on some of those picture but the first mike i posted is very slender
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IMO. Michael Jackson would NEVER let anyone represent himself as a person, OR as an artist, EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe as a distraction, but nothing else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe as a distraction, but nothing else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Something is very odd here - Im not sure what the heck is going on, but we are onto something - i just know it.
Also in the first 2 you are not alone clips - See how LONG the arms of the first mike in copenhag are compared to the arms of the mike in seoul?
I used to always say I could spot Michael anywhere just by looking at his thumbs but even that is starting to bug me now because I have seen some mikes that have more of a square thumb then a curved pointy one.
I will also say again, if you look at the pictures of Mike from Thriller and before, why is his lower lip bigged then his top lip then after Thriller not any more?
The singing live versus not singing live and the hand that held the microphone is also very interesting.
Also in the first 2 you are not alone clips - See how LONG the arms of the first mike in copenhag are compared to the arms of the mike in seoul?
I used to always say I could spot Michael anywhere just by looking at his thumbs but even that is starting to bug me now because I have seen some mikes that have more of a square thumb then a curved pointy one.
I will also say again, if you look at the pictures of Mike from Thriller and before, why is his lower lip bigged then his top lip then after Thriller not any more?
The singing live versus not singing live and the hand that held the microphone is also very interesting.
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francisca81 wrote:MJLover1990 wrote:No one died but the King Of Pop died symbolically.
Oh that was what Francisca was saying
something like that yes
could be very possible IMO!
Yup! I get what you guys meant! Which means it's just the 'name' of king of pop that died. Ever since this death hoax thing, this thought had been racing through my mind. =)
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CantStopLovingU wrote:Something is very odd here - Im not sure what the heck is going on, but we are onto something - i just know it.
Also in the first 2 you are not alone clips - See how LONG the arms of the first mike in copenhag are compared to the arms of the mike in seoul?
I used to always say I could spot Michael anywhere just by looking at his thumbs but even that is starting to bug me now because I have seen some mikes that have more of a square thumb then a curved pointy one.
I will also say again, if you look at the pictures of Mike from Thriller and before, why is his lower lip bigged then his top lip then after Thriller not any more?
The singing live versus not singing live and the hand that held the microphone is also very interesting.
good catch..
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?????????? If there are several MJ, I can also have one ???
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When the Jacksons left Motown, they couldn't take the name of Jackson 5. It was in their contract. I guess Joe didn't read the contract very closely. So they had to change their name of the group to The Jacksons. Also, Jermaine had stayed with Motown until the brothers started the Victory Tour.
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Yeah I noticed the whole ear thing a long time ago and there is a video on Youtube about it. Even '93 MJ's ear looked different. But all the sudden it's normal in this is it? No way...
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could you please find this clip for me please..thanksYouAreMyLifeMJ wrote:Yeah I noticed the whole ear thing a long time ago and there is a video on Youtube about it. Even '93 MJ's ear looked different. But all the sudden it's normal in this is it? No way...
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