Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

Okay so this may be old news for some but I just discovered this so please forgive me for my eagerness to post this. I think there is a possibility that there were three folks as Michael Jackson and one of them, I believe, is the real thing.

The first MJ I'm going to point came towards the middle of the documentary.
Here's a clip:



If you look at his eyes, it resembles this guy below:


Of course, this person may not be the same as the person I posted from the documentary but in any event, his eyes do appear to be different.

The second MJ, who I believe might be the real one, came in the beginning. I will point why I think the second and third one is different based on each one's comments on the mother of Blanket.

Here's the clip of the 2nd MJ:


Now, listen closely to what he says about Blanket's mother towards the end of the clip. You can start at 9:00.

The third MJ came at the end of the documentary with the final interview.

Here's a clip of the 3rd MJ:


Now listen closely to what he says about Blanket's mother at 1:15.

In the beginning of the documentary, he is claiming that he knows and had a relationship with Blanket's mother. By the end, he claims that him and Blanket's mother do not know each other at all. Which one is it?

In addition, 3rd MJ says Blanket's mother is Black. Meanwhile, LaToya (who could very well be lying but you never know) says MJ told her Blanket's mother is Latino.

Lots of contradictions and inconsistencies. Similar to this whole death thing right?

I personally believe each MJ LOOKS different if you really pay close attention especially the 2nd and 3rd MJ. I know some time passed but I still think that is a pretty drastic change if you ask me. I could be wrong though. They can all be one MJ but I just can't help but be suspicious of this. He could have been tired of doing this documentary once he found out where it was going and decided to throw one of decoys and/or doubles out there.

I want to also point out that if there is a possibility of three MJs in one documentary then whose to say how many potential MJs there are in the movie, This is It. Poppa Joe may be right after all. Could this documentary have been a test to see which decoys/doubles would work for this big plan he had for the future?

What do you guys think? I would love feedback whether it's in agreement or not with my little theory.

i don't know but when i was watching this on youtube 3 months ago, i know that the 3rd mj looked strange. like it wasn't him. but i don't know, he did look like he hadn't enough sleep. his eyes looked swollen...i don't know...i don't know...

Hmmm, it all looks like Michael to me, guys...

The second guy is a brazilian guy, he's only an impersonator.

Theyre all him. Dont forget these were recorded over a span of 8 months....MJ probalby gained afew pounds here and there and then lost some, then gained some....its common. But I think they are all 3 him

Sorry but the second one is brazilian, I'm pretty sure of that, he's speaking portuguese perfectly with no strange accent.
By the way I'm brazilian as well.

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Theyre all him. Dont forget these were recorded over a span of 8 months....MJ probalby gained afew pounds here and there and then lost some, then gained some....its common. But I think they are all 3 him

I agree with The JACKSONOLOGIST - he did gain weight though these scenes but that is M.J. all the way - no clones or twins or impersonators !

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Theyre all him. Dont forget these were recorded over a span of 8 months....MJ probalby gained afew pounds here and there and then lost some, then gained some....its common. But I think they are all 3 him

Totally agree...all the Bashir MJ's are the same MJ. He was also wearing different wigs off and on, so that would change his appearance. Time of day would, amount of sleep, make up and lighting, all sorts of things like this would effect his appearance.

If you study Michaels hands, specifically his THUMBS - Concentrate on the hand and THUMBS ONLY in each of the 3 clips of Michael you posted.

I can spot Michaels THUMBS anywhere - They are VERY VERY Distinctive. Very full almost fat at the base and then they curve up and out almost pointy at the ends.

I watched all three clips again (I've already seen them many times) and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that all three of those clips are indeed Michael based on his hands, and THUMBS alone.

In the Bashir documentary I think it is Michael all the way.

Harley....

This is true, but maybe he was just trying to keep that info private and simply forgot what he said the first time....as far as the nose jobs...I think he was fibbing.

Well IMO there have always been 2. Double or brother I cannot judge and it's not important.
The nose could have been remade to anybody by A. Klein.
The eyes form, the distances between lips, nose and eyebrows and to cheek bones make the differences IMO.

There is a Michael with doe's eyes:



(or as Souza and Mo said "asiatic" eyes)

and there is a Michael "handsome" with the more square chin (we know him from the angel pics and together with MLP)



And no, this did not happen within 8 months of recording - they were there all the time until June 2009:

roe eyes / small chin:


handsome:



roe eyes:










michael handsome:

Oh, he's so cute.... *melts*

I see fur in that last pic!!! ROAWW!!

The eyebrows are shaped different too...but maybe he had them "done"

Theyre all him.

Grace, I do totally believe you !
There's two Michael. Even if he's tired or in bad light or something, the differences are obvious. I may be wronf but I think you are totally right !

I don't know about this one! The 2nd one's eyes are bigger. I don't believe your eyes change over a span of 18 months. He also speaks very slow as if not to slip up. He was the one that said he and Blanket's mom were intimate. The 3rd MJ said Blanket's mom was a surrogate. Why wouldn't that story be consistent? Keep the Faith!

Those are all him, IMO. Different light, weight, makeup, procedures he's had done. He's gorgeous in them all though.
His eyes look bigger when he lines the waterline with white, it'a modeling trick....along with the contouring on his nose, which makes is nose look oddly tiny sometimes.I'm sure he still had issues with his nose though, so continued that makeup trick to make it appear even smaller.
His chin looks larger and the cleft deeper, and the cheek bones sharper/laugh lines deeper, the thinner he gets.

I think they are all MJ as well.
This one:

and this one:

Remind me of his Sister La Toya.
Maybe its genetics or they like to use the same Dr. ??

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Harley....

This is true, but maybe he was just trying to keep that info private and simply forgot what he said the first time....as far as the nose jobs...I think he was fibbing.

Hee hee yes, I agree! My Mum always says how do you tell if a man is fibbing? Answer-he's moving his mouth!! ALL men lie, even our lovely Michael. Cute with it though eh???

But where did you find this one:



And are there anymore with him dressed like this?

Harleyblonde wrote:

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Harley....

This is true, but maybe he was just trying to keep that info private and simply forgot what he said the first time....as far as the nose jobs...I think he was fibbing.

Hee hee yes, I agree! My Mum always says how do you tell if a man is fibbing? Answer-he's moving his mouth!! ALL men lie, even our lovely Michael. Cute with it though eh???

Maybe to him, just "fixing" a problem was not an added surgery.

looking4truth wrote:Okay so this may be old news for some but I just discovered this so please forgive me for my eagerness to post this. I think there is a possibility that there were three folks as Michael Jackson and one of them, I believe, is the real thing.

The first MJ I'm going to point came towards the middle of the documentary.
Here's a clip:



If you look at his eyes, it resembles this guy below:


Of course, this person may not be the same as the person I posted from the documentary but in any event, his eyes do appear to be different.

The second MJ, who I believe might be the real one, came in the beginning. I will point why I think the second and third one is different based on each one's comments on the mother of Blanket.

Here's the clip of the 2nd MJ:


Now, listen closely to what he says about Blanket's mother towards the end of the clip. You can start at 9:00.

The third MJ came at the end of the documentary with the final interview.

Here's a clip of the 3rd MJ:


Now listen closely to what he says about Blanket's mother at 1:15.

In the beginning of the documentary, he is claiming that he knows and had a relationship with Blanket's mother. By the end, he claims that him and Blanket's mother do not know each other at all. Which one is it?

In addition, 3rd MJ says Blanket's mother is Black. Meanwhile, LaToya (who could very well be lying but you never know) says MJ told her Blanket's mother is Latino.

Lots of contradictions and inconsistencies. Similar to this whole death thing right?

I personally believe each MJ LOOKS different if you really pay close attention especially the 2nd and 3rd MJ. I know some time passed but I still think that is a pretty drastic change if you ask me. I could be wrong though. They can all be one MJ but I just can't help but be suspicious of this. He could have been tired of doing this documentary once he found out where it was going and decided to throw one of decoys and/or doubles out there.

I want to also point out that if there is a possibility of three MJs in one documentary then whose to say how many potential MJs there are in the movie, This is It. Poppa Joe may be right after all. Could this documentary have been a test to see which decoys/doubles would work for this big plan he had for the future?

What do you guys think? I would love feedback whether it's in agreement or not with my little theory.

I have always thought this, those mj's are not all the same.. I personally think it was not done to mess or fool with anyone.. there is a reason. But theses vids you are so right about them.

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Theyre all him. Dont forget these were recorded over a span of 8 months....MJ probalby gained afew pounds here and there and then lost some, then gained some....its common. But I think they are all 3 him

Agree! 100% MJ.
About the surrogate mother. I think he lied the first time it was brought up. I also don't believe that he and Debbie were ever intimate. I think she was artificially inseminated.

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Theyre all him. Dont forget these were recorded over a span of 8 months....MJ probalby gained afew pounds here and there and then lost some, then gained some....its common. But I think they are all 3 him

100% agree.

Ok, let´s say there were two MJs. Don´t you think they would talk about what to say in the interview? And if MJ1 said that he and Blanket´s mom had a relationship, I guess MJ2 would know about that.. Also both MJs would know there may be questions about surgeries.

I guess it´s all Michael, although I must admit he looks different in both parts of the documentary.

ItsInTheEyes wrote:

Harleyblonde wrote:

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Harley....

This is true, but maybe he was just trying to keep that info private and simply forgot what he said the first time....as far as the nose jobs...I think he was fibbing.

Hee hee yes, I agree! My Mum always says how do you tell if a man is fibbing? Answer-he's moving his mouth!! ALL men lie, even our lovely Michael. Cute with it though eh???

Maybe to him, just "fixing" a problem was not an added surgery.

I agree. The first was due to breaking his nose, he had it thinned
while they fixed it. Maybe he didn't count that one? I honestly, don't think he had more than three, four tops though, I see makeup contouring still in many photos.Like I said that makes it look smaller sometimes.

i'm on the fence with this, but i think there could be doubles.. as for the nose jobs, i believe him when he said he only had two, the second to fix a deviated septum.

they are all him!
maybe different wigs, makeup, angle, lighting- but all him!

mjssoulmate wrote:

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Theyre all him. Dont forget these were recorded over a span of 8 months....MJ probalby gained afew pounds here and there and then lost some, then gained some....its common. But I think they are all 3 him

Agree! 100% MJ.
About the surrogate mother. I think he lied the first time it was brought up. I also don't believe that he and Debbie were ever intimate. I think she was artificially inseminated.

I agree with you on both. I've always thought that and knew he was lying about Blanket's mom the second I first saw this interview on tv. He's not a good liar...LOL

smoothcriminal2792 wrote:i'm on the fence with this, but i think there could be doubles.. as for the nose jobs, i believe him when he said he only had two, the second to fix a deviated septum.

I don´t believe that he only had two, but so what? It´s his business..

I prefer that we use Bashit when referring to Bashir. Thanks.

I watched "Living with MJ" hundreds of times and I can clearly state they all are the same man - MJ! No doubt.

LoL 3 MJ's! Guys, come on, this is getting a bit ridiculous...

wandulka wrote:LoL 3 MJ's! Guys, come on, this is getting a bit ridiculous...

totally agree!

Hey anything is possible. If we believe that he would fake his death then why not think this could be a possibility? I could be totally wrong but to totally downplay it is a little funny considering what this website is all based on some facts and a lot of speculations.

Oh and thanks for everyone's responses by the way. I appreciate your feedback and taking the time to respond.

Shamone' wrote:I prefer that we use Bashit when referring to Bashir. Thanks.

Yes , I tend to prefer 'Mutant Batshit'. He is listed as that in his resume.

Gabriel Walker wrote:

Shamone' wrote:I prefer that we use Bashit when referring to Bashir. Thanks.

Yes , I tend to prefer 'Mutant Batshit'. He is listed as that in his resume.

K I fixed it.

Grace wrote:Well IMO there have always been 2. Double or brother I cannot judge and it's not important.
The nose could have been remade to anybody by A. Klein.
The eyes form, the distances between lips, nose and eyebrows and to cheek bones make the differences IMO.

There is a Michael with doe's eyes:



(or as Souza and Mo said "asiatic" eyes)

and there is a Michael "handsome" with the more square chin (we know him from the angel pics and together with MLP)



And no, this did not happen within 8 months of recording - they were there all the time until June 2009:

roe eyes / small chin:


handsome:



roe eyes:










michael handsome:

I am happy this post came up. I discused it privately with another chatter as well. Even If I pointed more than the looks, the personality, it got me thinking big time those two scenes of the interview with Bashir when talking about Blanket´s mother.

THe last pic shown in this post: Has Michael something on the right part of the neck?
The 3dr one starting from the bottom: is that really Michael?

Mo wrote:looking4truth, I agree with you, these are different MJs!

Last weekend Souza and I went through the Batshit interview and the rebuttal tapes again, we made a lot of screenshots, and we didn't even need to layer them up to see the differences.

We're working on a thread about it also.

Please, don´t forget to also check beyond the looks, the personality!

Omg the brazilian guy is the best looking imposer compered to the others he realy looks the most like mj

Gema wrote:

Mo wrote:looking4truth, I agree with you, these are different MJs!

Last weekend Souza and I went through the Batshit interview and the rebuttal tapes again, we made a lot of screenshots, and we didn't even need to layer them up to see the differences.

We're working on a thread about it also.

Please, don´t forget to also check beyond the looks, the personality!

We won't, that was the first thing we noticed

First nose job, when he broke it, prior to Off The Wall(see 1-2).
Second- sometime during Thriller, I believe he took advantage of time in the hospital when he was burned. Photos in 1983, have the Off The Wall nose still(check Beat It), '84 and later is smaller(see 3).
There was definitely something up during Invincible(3rd nose job, see 4), which was quickly fixed. This may have been when he couldn't breathe well(deviated septum), DR botched it, then repaired(see 5).
Then later, we all know fillers were used to further reconstruct his nose in '09(see 6), looks like they were aiming to revert back to Thriller nose-before botched nose job. It looks great too, IMO.

Of course the chin cleft was added before Bad, he admitted that as well. This is about nose jobs though.

So there, 3 nose jobs with a few nonsurgical tweaks here and there, plus repairs. If he
wasn't counting the first, when he broke his nose, nor the repair on the botched one, then he was being semi-honest by saying two. Case closed.
Don't want to hear about it again from anybody. EVER
Seriously though, I've spent over a decade defending him from these nasty judgments from my family, as well as complete strangers, don't like hearing this stuff from fans.

Gema wrote:

Grace wrote:Well IMO there have always been 2. Double or brother I cannot judge and it's not important.
The nose could have been remade to anybody by A. Klein.
The eyes form, the distances between lips, nose and eyebrows and to cheek bones make the differences IMO.

There is a Michael with doe's eyes:



(or as Souza and Mo said "asiatic" eyes)

and there is a Michael "handsome" with the more square chin (we know him from the angel pics and together with MLP)



And no, this did not happen within 8 months of recording - they were there all the time until June 2009:

roe eyes / small chin:


handsome:



roe eyes:










michael handsome:

I am happy this post came up. I discused it privately with another chatter as well. Even If I pointed more than the looks, the personality, it got me thinking big time those two scenes of the interview with Bashir when talking about Blanket´s mother.

THe last pic shown in this post: Has Michael something on the right part of the neck?
The 3dr one starting from the bottom: is that really Michael?

The wrinkle where his neck meets his collar? I don't see anything on his neck.
Yes, it's him. He looks very thin and worn out though. It also seems he was sucking in/deeply inhaling at the moment the photo was taken.

wandulka wrote:LoL 3 MJ's! Guys, come on, this is getting a bit ridiculous...

Sorry to wander off topic, but where's the pic in your sig from? The one with the brown wig? He looks amazing with brown hair. Anyone have a bigger pic??

GirlInTheMirror1 wrote:

smoothcriminal2792 wrote:i'm on the fence with this, but i think there could be doubles.. as for the nose jobs, i believe him when he said he only had two, the second to fix a deviated septum.

I don´t believe that he only had two, but so what? It´s his business..

you are very right, either way, he is absolutely gorgeous

If I can grow fat, why cant Michael put on some weight too!

maybe it's a genetic thing? I can eat whatever I want without weight-growin. My mother can do that, too

icy55 wrote:If I can grow fat, why cant Michael put on some weight too!

He got thick during History, looked delicious. Again, in 2001. Check him out in the
white pants at the 30th Anniversary Concert. Mmmmmmmmmmm