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Post by DawneVee on Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:11 pm

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mjj29081958 wrote:I don't know if anyone posted it before, here is another article with a pic supposedly posthumous... mmm....it looks so fake! http://spanish.peopledaily.com.cn/92122/6720711.html (sorry is in spanish)

This was already debunked by annieisnotokay. It was taken in (annie, correct me if I'm wrong) 2004 when MJ was in DC for an aids thing. Annie posted the real picture a few days ago in response to my posting about it. Whew! sunny

Here is the link mjj so you can see it for yourself...
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/51872822/Getty-Images-Entertainment


[b]Next picture we can debunk please! We are on a roll here between the coffin pictures and the deathbed pictures...wooohoooooooooooooo cheers
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Post by ziffes on Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:23 pm

mjj29081958 wrote:I don't know if anyone posted it before, here is another article with a pic supposedly posthumous... mmm....it looks so fake! http://spanish.peopledaily.com.cn/92122/6720711.html (sorry is in spanish)

i used google translate for it..
but it dident translate the word posthumt

what does posthumt mean?
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:24 pm

Posthumous means after death i.e. the pictures taken after the person is dead.
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Post by ziffes on Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:26 pm

ahhhh thanks... annoying when is doesn't translate a word witch is important for the understanding.

thanks Very Happy

well i don't think it is real..

edit.. made of the other pic witch is linked..

GOSH you guys are the best detectives ever..
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:27 pm

No problem Smile
None of them are real because the media just want to sell papers so they'll photoshop and fake anything to make money
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Post by jpresley on Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:51 pm

We are really kind of full of ourselves on this site today, huh?? lol tongue
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Post by ziffes on Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:40 pm

Wink well...

yes i guess.. but it is the truth.. lol!
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:52 pm

jpresley wrote:We are really kind of full of ourselves on this site today, huh?? lol tongue
Lol tongue
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Post by mjj29081958 on Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:41 pm

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jpresley wrote:
mjj29081958 wrote:I don't know if anyone posted it before, here is another article with a pic supposedly posthumous... mmm....it looks so fake! http://spanish.peopledaily.com.cn/92122/6720711.html (sorry is in spanish)

This was already debunked by annieisnotokay. It was taken in (annie, correct me if I'm wrong) 2004 when MJ was in DC for an aids thing. Annie posted the real picture a few days ago in response to my posting about it. Whew! sunny

Here is the link mjj so you can see it for yourself...
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/51872822/Getty-Images-Entertainment


[b]Next picture we can debunk please! We are on a roll here between the coffin pictures and the deathbed pictures...wooohoooooooooooooo cheers

oh, Thank you so much!!!!! Wink
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Post by mjj29081958 on Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:49 pm

[quote="ziffes"]ahhhh thanks... annoying when is doesn't translate a word witch is important for the understanding.

Believe me, I can really understand ... I speak Spanish, and this happens all the time!!!!I have to translate the translation!!!!!
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Post by cherry8 on Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:28 pm

I was wondering... why it has been with MJ that the media has been always showing fake pics, and lots of crap about Michael more that with another celeb? Whyy? Why do they hate him so much? couldn't they just ignore him if they don't like? Evil or Very Mad

I know that maybe just to sell, but there are more celebs.


I don't understand.
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:34 pm

cherry8 wrote:I was wondering... why it has been with MJ that the media has been always showing fake pics, and lots of crap about Michael more that with another celeb? Whyy? Why do they hate him so much? couldn't they just ignore him if they don't like? Evil or Very Mad

I know that maybe just to sell, but there are more celebs.

I don't understand.
The media will always pick on the easiest target, and Michael being so sweet and nice and generous was the easiest target. Think about it this way, the media are high school bullies who will pick on people weaker than them right? They never pick on the big beefy footballers or the people most likely to beat the cr@p out of them.
In the same way, Michael is probably the only celebrity in the world who won't hit a pap or swear at them. It's not because he is weak because he isn't, he's one of the strongest people ever because he manages to control himself around those who hurt him.
The media makes up all this rubbish about him to sell papers because he is the biggest star in the world and people want to know about him whether it is good or bad. The media knows that and they capitalise on it big time, they don't care who they hurt in the process.
*Edited* I just read the posts on the MJ O2 imposter's wrists thread and saw your last post about the 2003 pics.
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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:36 pm

@cherry8 I think that he did alot of positive things for the world and trying to help children and people. The media just wanted to see what they want to see. I think people persecute what they don't or want to understand.
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Post by cherry8 on Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:48 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
cherry8 wrote:I was wondering... why it has been with MJ that the media has been always showing fake pics, and lots of crap about Michael more that with another celeb? Whyy? Why do they hate him so much? couldn't they just ignore him if they don't like? Evil or Very Mad

I know that maybe just to sell, but there are more celebs.

I don't understand.
The media will always pick on the easiest target, and Michael being so sweet and nice and generous was the easiest target. Think about it this way, the media are high school bullies who will pick on people weaker than them right? They never pick on the big beefy footballers or the people most likely to beat the cr@p out of them.
In the same way, Michael is probably the only celebrity in the world who won't hit a pap or swear at them. It's not because he is weak because he isn't, he's one of the strongest people ever because he manages to control himself around those who hurt him.
The media makes up all this rubbish about him to sell papers because he is the biggest star in the world and people want to know about him whether it is good or bad. The media knows that and they capitalise on it big time, they don't care who they hurt in the process.
*Edited* I just read the posts on the MJ O2 imposter's wrists thread and saw your last post about the 2003 pics.

What a Face Thank you for the explanation, very clear, you must be right. Excuse my ignorance about that, as i have never been very interested in what the media published and believe it, but sometimes it was inevitable to see or to listen to some of the rubish they said about him, No . How sad, it's really frustrating how the human being in general try to destroy the good and special people.

Envy is so dangerous... Neutral
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:55 pm

I don't know if I'm right but that's my take on it. I hate media harassment and the excuse that people use when a celebrity or famous person complains about it. They are famous so everyone can take a hit at them? People are entitled to know the ins and outs of their lives because they are famous? NO WAY!
People are not entitled to know about famous people's private lives. Making music or movies does not automatically mean that people should be followed and hounded.
I watched Princess Diana die because she was being hunted by papparazzi throughout her life (I live in the UK, she'll always be a huge part of us here), and I watched Michael hunted in the same way. I've never seen any two people be hunted as much as them, not Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie, not Julia Roberts or many of the big name A-listers who are regularly in mags and newspapers.

It's disgusting and appalling and completely inhuman. The people who target famous people, who hunt them, who deliberately attack them and belittle them are soulless monsters and the lowest of the low. I don't think I have harsh enough words for the disgust I feel towards them tbh. The media makes me so angry Mad
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Post by cherry8 on Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:13 pm

Shocked wow.

And i also forgot to say that (as you mantioned before APOM) it must be underlined that Michael has never had a rude word or gesture for the media (as i've seen), it's unbelievable how patient and polite he has always been in front of them,worthy of admiration, no other celebrity would stand those injustices like that No
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:19 pm

Sorry, that was quite a rant lol Embarassed
Michael is so gracious and welcoming, no matter what they did to him, no matter how much they hounded and followed him everywhere, he still stayed polite and sweet.
I think that is the mark of a person who is comfortable in themself and who truly knows their inner self to be at peace when surrounded by chaos and bad people who are always looking for your downfall.
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Post by mribeiro on Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:22 pm

mjj29081958 wrote:I don't know if anyone posted it before, here is another article with a pic supposedly posthumous... mmm....it looks so fake! http://spanish.peopledaily.com.cn/92122/6720711.html (sorry is in spanish)

Can you please tell me where's the link foi the two pictures because I can't find it.


Thanks
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:24 pm

mribeiro wrote:
mjj29081958 wrote:I don't know if anyone posted it before, here is another article with a pic supposedly posthumous... mmm....it looks so fake! http://spanish.peopledaily.com.cn/92122/6720711.html (sorry is in spanish)

Can you please tell me where's the link foi the two pictures because I can't find it.

Thanks
All the links to the pictures are on this thread, scroll up and you should find the originals and the fakes/photoshops and check the other pages on this thread too.
Hope that helps
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Post by mribeiro on Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:39 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
mribeiro wrote:
mjj29081958 wrote:I don't know if anyone posted it before, here is another article with a pic supposedly posthumous... mmm....it looks so fake! http://spanish.peopledaily.com.cn/92122/6720711.html (sorry is in spanish)

Can you please tell me where's the link foi the two pictures because I can't find it.

Thanks
All the links to the pictures are on this thread, scroll up and you should find the originals and the fakes/photoshops and check the other pages on this thread too.
Hope that helps

I was asking because my sister told me that there was two pictures os MJ in the "coffin" (don't know if this is the right word). One i've already seen mas not the other one.

But thaks anyway
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:46 pm

Here's page 1 of the thread - it has several scans kindly uploaded by Human_Nature.
https://mjkit.forumotion.net/news-and-odd-things-f8/odd-picture-i-never-saw-this-pic-before-t87.htm

Page 2 has links to the pictures and the real pics debunking the 'coffin' pics:
https://mjkit.forumotion.net/news-and-odd-things-f8/odd-picture-i-never-saw-this-pic-before-t87-25.htm

Annie posted the links to the actual pictures showing that the media just took normal pics from years ago and photoshopped them to make people think they were 'death' pictures.
"The pic is from the 45th birthday party.

I can't find the exact one because there are literally hundreds of them on the internet.

But check these out:
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/20032005/col/audience/008.jpg
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/20032005/col/audience/017.jpg
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/20032005/col/audience/058.jpg

Same white shirt, same lip colour.

The one the magazine looks strange because it's taken from a weird angle. It's liked zoomed in from below.

It's not an "almost dead" picture. It's just a bad picture from years ago."

And here's the second pic plus the link debunking it below it:
I don't know if anyone posted it before, here is another article with a pic supposedly posthumous... mmm....it looks so fake! http://spanish.peopledaily.com.cn/92122/6720711.html (sorry is in spanish)

Here is the link mjj so you can see it for yourself...
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/51872822/Getty-Images-Entertainment
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Post by mribeiro on Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:55 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:Here's page 1 of the thread - it has several scans kindly uploaded by Human_Nature.
https://mjkit.forumotion.net/news-and-odd-things-f8/odd-picture-i-never-saw-this-pic-before-t87.htm

Page 2 has links to the pictures and the real pics debunking the 'coffin' pics:
https://mjkit.forumotion.net/news-and-odd-things-f8/odd-picture-i-never-saw-this-pic-before-t87-25.htm

Annie posted the links to the actual pictures showing that the media just took normal pics from years ago and photoshopped them to make people think they were 'death' pictures.
"The pic is from the 45th birthday party.

I can't find the exact one because there are literally hundreds of them on the internet.

But check these out:
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/20032005/col/audience/008.jpg
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/20032005/col/audience/017.jpg
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/20032005/col/audience/058.jpg

Same white shirt, same lip colour.

The one the magazine looks strange because it's taken from a weird angle. It's liked zoomed in from below.

It's not an "almost dead" picture. It's just a bad picture from years ago."

And here's the second pic plus the link debunking it below it:
I don't know if anyone posted it before, here is another article with a pic supposedly posthumous... mmm....it looks so fake! http://spanish.peopledaily.com.cn/92122/6720711.html (sorry is in spanish)

Here is the link mjj so you can see it for yourself...
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/51872822/Getty-Images-Entertainment

Ohhh. Now I get it. I think my sister is drinking too much because she refered to some black clothes.

She did see another picture bt not here. And she can't remember where.

Thank you and I'm sorry.
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:02 pm

Ah, she's not wrong, don't worry.
You're talking about the James Brown pic from a few weeks ago. Some idiot took James Brown's funeral/coffin picture flipped it around and then put Michael's face on it and that went around the internet like wildfire.

The fake:
http://anythingwhatevs.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/mj-in-coffin.jpg

The original:
http://anythingwhatevs.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/james-brown-in-coffin1.jpg

There is also thisone which is James Brown's one again with Michael's face close-up:
http://www.hollywoodhitmaker.com/michael_jackson_coffin.jpg
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Post by annieisnotokey on Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:09 pm

I've been catching up on this post and it seems I've become the unofficial fake photo debunker... It's quite an honor!

Just remember, next time you find a coffin picture or something like that, run it through me before grabbing the tissue box. lol!
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:17 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:I've been catching up on this post and it seems I've become the unofficial fake photo debunker... It's quite an honor!

Just remember, next time you find a coffin picture or something like that, run it through me before grabbing the tissue box. lol!
Lol, will do, you're our official fake photo debunker cheers lol!
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Post by DawneVee on Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:20 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:I've been catching up on this post and it seems I've become the unofficial fake photo debunker... It's quite an honor!

Just remember, next time you find a coffin picture or something like that, run it through me before grabbing the tissue box. lol!

*Bows to annieisnotokay* Thank you madame for your services. Cool
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Post by Savannah on Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:33 pm

I first thought the same as Souza (wax dummy). But then I looked again. It almost looks like he is getting an eye exam by a doctor...which would explain the dialated pupils. If this picture is real, maybe they photographed the physical exam he had to have for his "This Is It" Concerts. I know you don't usually have your eyes dilated for a physical exam; however, for the price of that kind of insurance policy, I am sure they covered everything. Or...maybe he was just at an eye doctor one day getting an eye exam and the paps followed him and photographed it through a window (that would explain the glare). Who knows...anything is possible. Anyway, that's my thought...if of course the picture is legit. I hardly trust any photos anymore because so many of them are photo shopped.
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Post by jpresley on Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:14 am

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:I don't know if I'm right but that's my take on it. I hate media harassment and the excuse that people use when a celebrity or famous person complains about it. They are famous so everyone can take a hit at them? People are entitled to know the ins and outs of their lives because they are famous? NO WAY!
People are not entitled to know about famous people's private lives. Making music or movies does not automatically mean that people should be followed and hounded.
I watched Princess Diana die because she was being hunted by papparazzi throughout her life (I live in the UK, she'll always be a huge part of us here), and I watched Michael hunted in the same way. I've never seen any two people be hunted as much as them, not Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie, not Julia Roberts or many of the big name A-listers who are regularly in mags and newspapers.

It's disgusting and appalling and completely inhuman. The people who target famous people, who hunt them, who deliberately attack them and belittle them are soulless monsters and the lowest of the low. I don't think I have harsh enough words for the disgust I feel towards them tbh. The media makes me so angry Mad

I completely agree. The depth at which Princess Diana and Michael were stalked is sickening. I have always loved Princess Di and I remember very vividily picking up a magazine w/ her on the cover maybe a year or two before the accident. She was at the freaking gym using a leg machine and the paps got a picture of her w/ her legs wide open. It made me SO angry!!! I HATE THE MEDIA!!! Twisted Evil
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:11 am

jpresley wrote:
Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:I don't know if I'm right but that's my take on it. I hate media harassment and the excuse that people use when a celebrity or famous person complains about it. They are famous so everyone can take a hit at them? People are entitled to know the ins and outs of their lives because they are famous? NO WAY!
People are not entitled to know about famous people's private lives. Making music or movies does not automatically mean that people should be followed and hounded.
I watched Princess Diana die because she was being hunted by papparazzi throughout her life (I live in the UK, she'll always be a huge part of us here), and I watched Michael hunted in the same way. I've never seen any two people be hunted as much as them, not Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie, not Julia Roberts or many of the big name A-listers who are regularly in mags and newspapers.

It's disgusting and appalling and completely inhuman. The people who target famous people, who hunt them, who deliberately attack them and belittle them are soulless monsters and the lowest of the low. I don't think I have harsh enough words for the disgust I feel towards them tbh. The media makes me so angry Mad

I completely agree. The depth at which Princess Diana and Michael were stalked is sickening. I have always loved Princess Di and I remember very vividily picking up a magazine w/ her on the cover maybe a year or two before the accident. She was at the freaking gym using a leg machine and the paps got a picture of her w/ her legs wide open. It made me SO angry!!! I HATE THE MEDIA!!! Twisted Evil
It's disgusting isn't it? How they build someone up then turn around and tear them down.
How many mags have we seen where they love and praise celebs, then a few months later they're tearing up people's esteem by attacking them on their weight, cellulite, no make-up etc.
WTF is it any of their business whether someone chooses not to wear make-up, or fancy clothes. Celebs are real people, just because they get more money than the rest of us does not make them fair game for taunts and attacks.
They make it seem like famous people have to be dolled up for the Red carpet 24 hours a day in jewels and finery, weigh less than a toothpick and NEVER have any real human issues like zits, bags, wrinkles, fatigue and God forbid someone actually eats real food instead of being a size 0 twiglet or tries to have some fun with their friends.
I've seen paps - they look like riff raff, scruffy jeans, t-shirts, no make-up, low personal hygiene/grooming etc. I'm betting they wouldn't like it if they had to fit this extreme dolled up image for people's enjoyment all the time or being constantly hounded.
I actually feel like finding a pap and hounding them constantly shoving a camera in their face and see how they'd like it Twisted Evil
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Post by Heidi on Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:21 pm

That hand on the pix is Michaels... And you can see clearly he is crying !!

And... he was NOT on drugs.. either dead 4 times.... !!!

The medias is so fake.... !!!!
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