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Post by Human_nature Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:18 pm

Wherever, whatever, have a nice day !


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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:22 pm

That IS him!!! OMGOMGOMGOMGOMOGOMGOMOGOMOGOMOGOMOGOMG


I was listeng to 8 and its HAS GOT to be him. I will get a sex change if it isnt him. 33 and 34 are him too. One he identifies himself as MJ accepting an award and the other (34) is him as well even though he says otherwise.

#35 is smoking crack.
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Post by mjthelegendlives Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:25 pm

lol yes 35 is on something...did you hear message 75, Jacksonologist?
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:27 pm

nope hang on...I clicked off it....BRB.
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Post by mjthelegendlives Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:27 pm

Another thing I find weird is the picture on peterpan's profile...It doesnt look artistic, more like a shot from a webcam or something...
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Post by Human_nature Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:28 pm

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Post by Human_nature Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:29 pm

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Post by mjthelegendlives Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:30 pm

I heard about a site loquendo.com, where you can use celebrities' voices for messages, but I dont know if Michael's voice is there, but even if it can be used. The content of the message is definitely Michael would talk about, plus the pauses, geez even his way of breathing!
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:31 pm

mjthelegendlives wrote:lol yes 35 is on something...did you hear message 75, Jacksonologist?

That one is weird to me. I would say its more likely an impersonator? Somethng weird in his voice....
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Post by velvetsilvergirl Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:33 pm

Hmmm...that does sound like him. 8, 26, 33, 34. But there may be a lot of people out there that can imitate his voice. We need somebody who compares voices as an occupation, like voice recognition software or something. Anybody got an ins, like to a cop or something?
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:35 pm

mjthelegendlives wrote:I heard about a site loquendo.com, where you can use celebrities' voices for messages, but I dont know if Michael's voice is there, but even if it can be used. The content of the message is definitely Michael would talk about, plus the pauses, geez even his way of breathing!


He has a way of pronouncing certain letters in a word. His "L's" are very distinct. His A's are distinct too.

Also, who is Dragon in the chatroom?
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:36 pm

velvetsilvergirl wrote:Hmmm...that does sound like him. 8, 26, 33, 34. But there may be a lot of people out there that can imitate his voice. We need somebody who compares voices as an occupation, like voice recognition software or something. Anybody got an ins, like to a cop or something?


what? you think cops can just get access to that kind of stuff? LOL

I have a neighbor who is a cop....I will see what I can do.
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Post by Human_nature Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:36 pm

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Post by mjthelegendlives Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:36 pm

I dont know, but in my opinion, its quite hard to hold a conversation imitating a person for more than a few seconds. But you are right velvetsilvergirl, a voice recognition software would take us out of doubts.
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Post by Human_nature Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:38 pm

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Post by mjthelegendlives Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:40 pm

Im lazy to scroll, but someone mentioned something about Dragon. What about him?
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Post by Angel36 Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:40 pm

I don't know what to think about this too.
It sounds like MJ.
Did you hear what he said.

I tried to write everything down.

Hey Peter
This is Donald.I'm calling from the UK. I just wanted to say Hi and hope you coping okay
with the passing of Michael.
And it was a shock to everyone and it still is.And his music will live on this is something i hope.
And i was thinking about today all about the music that's been out the recent years,recent months some of of the songs just...
I am not memorable anymore.
There needs to be you know something big happining in the music-industry.
There needs to be a reform.
That's why Michael got his Will.I.AM.
He was making great, inovative positive music.
I think that's brilliant.
I hope other people get inspiration from Michael and continue on making great music.ypu know
That's really all i have to say.if you want to hack me i have msn and i yeah have facebook.
I hope to hear from you shortly.


This is what i heard.
I think it is pretty weird.
Especially about "i am not memorable anymore"

If he is a voice-impersonator he very good.
If it is Michael he just blew his cover because he wants to know if Peter is okay with the passing of Michael.

I really don't know.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:42 pm

#26 is MJ.

Human-nature......I have to listen to #75 again.


No thats not MJ at all...O2 guy....not sure either!!!
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:43 pm

mjthelegendlives wrote:Im lazy to scroll, but someone mentioned something about Dragon. What about him?

I did...who is he?
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Post by mjthelegendlives Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:44 pm

Angel36 wrote:I don't know what to think about this too.
It sounds like MJ.
Did you hear what he said.

I tried to write everything down.

Hey Peter
This is Donald.I'm calling from the UK. I just wanted to say Hi and hope you coping okay
with the passing of Michael.
And it was a shock to everyone and it still is.And his music will live on this is something i hope.
And i was thinking about today all about the music that's been out the recent years,recent months some of of the songs just...
I am not memorable anymore.
There needs to be you know something big happining in the music-industry.
There needs to be a reform.
That's why Michael got his Will.I.AM.
He was making great, inovative positive music.
I think that's brilliant.
I hope other people get inspiration from Michael and continue on making great music.ypu know
That's really all i have to say.if you want to hack me i have msn and i yeah have facebook.
I hope to hear from you shortly.


This is what i heard.
I think it is pretty weird.
Especially about "i am not memorable anymore"

If he is a voice-impersonator he very good.
If it is Michael he just blew his cover because he wants to know if Peter is okay with the passing of Michael.

I really don't know.

Angel, youre really an angel, hehe...thanks so much for writing what he was saying, i have a hard time understanding people speaking English, since its not my first language. Reform in the musical industry...and the way he pronounces the word "brilliant".
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Post by mjthelegendlives Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:45 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
mjthelegendlives wrote:Im lazy to scroll, but someone mentioned something about Dragon. What about him?

I did...who is he?

oh i dont know, but he sure is having one unique conversation there lol
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:46 pm

Angel36 wrote:I don't know what to think about this too.
It sounds like MJ.
Did you hear what he said.

I tried to write everything down.

Hey Peter
This is Donald.I'm calling from the UK. I just wanted to say Hi and hope you coping okay
with the passing of Michael.
And it was a shock to everyone and it still is.And his music will live on this is something i hope.
And i was thinking about today all about the music that's been out the recent years,recent months some of of the songs just...
I am not memorable anymore.
There needs to be you know something big happining in the music-industry.
There needs to be a reform.
That's why Michael got his Will.I.AM.
He was making great, inovative positive music.
I think that's brilliant.
I hope other people get inspiration from Michael and continue on making great music.ypu know
That's really all i have to say.if you want to hack me i have msn and i yeah have facebook.
I hope to hear from you shortly.


This is what i heard.
I think it is pretty weird.
Especially about "i am not memorable anymore"

If he is a voice-impersonator he very good.
If it is Michael he just blew his cover because he wants to know if Peter is okay with the passing of Michael.

I really don't know.

He said "is not memorable anymore"
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:48 pm

Compare the voices with the phone calls I posted. We KNOW those are MJ's voice.
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Post by velvetsilvergirl Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:58 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
velvetsilvergirl wrote:Hmmm...that does sound like him. 8, 26, 33, 34. But there may be a lot of people out there that can imitate his voice. We need somebody who compares voices as an occupation, like voice recognition software or something. Anybody got an ins, like to a cop or something?


what? you think cops can just get access to that kind of stuff? LOL

I have a neighbor who is a cop....I will see what I can do.

lol!
I have no idea! I only see that stuff on CSI or Law and Order! I have no idea what I'm talking about. scratch
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:00 pm

see my above post.
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Post by mjthelegendlives Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:04 pm

you know, i remember hearing a telephone conversation of michael with some guy on a radio station and he was commenting something about the musical industry, yes, something about a reform, but he didnt use exactly that word. He said that he had to make changes in his music according to the generations, but that his messages on his songs would remain the same because it wasnt him speaking, it was from heavens.
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Post by Human_nature Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:05 pm

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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:07 pm

I have a question...Im sure its been didcussed, butI missed it.

WHY oh,, WHY would MJ risk CALLING and leaving a message on a public myspace page like that if it WAS him on July 14th? I know its him. I know it. But why? He is suppose to be dead. Maybe he created "donald" so he COULD continue to communicate somehow....I cant imagine the risk though.

More proof for me he is still among the living.

OMGG........Im listening again. I cannot get enough!!! He has a tone in his voice that when he says certain words his voice gets higher...........A classic MJ characteristic.... Listen again..when he talks about music...he says "great innovative postive MUSIC"
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Post by Human_nature Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:12 pm

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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:17 pm

Well those people are close minded then. Its very clear to me its him.
Even if I thought he was dead, I would say " you know...that DOES sound like him..." Im not a stubborn person and I would then start to wonder if maybe he WAS alive.....but thats just me.
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Post by wishful09 Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:20 pm

Well, this peterpan subject is interesting. Many of us really did believe it when it was first mentioned. I mean come on, it sounds just like him. But we were told it wasnt and we all kinda accepted it. I always kept this in the back of my mind though and Im glad others still think it's him as well.
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Post by Human_nature Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:22 pm

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Post by mjthelegendlives Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:28 pm

ok these are the videos i found...they are long but worth listening to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq2snwHdmOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TMC2RSlTTo&feature=related

By the way he mentions making videos for "unbreakable" and "threatened"...those songs have an interesting message...did he ever make or release those videos?
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:32 pm

wishful09 wrote:Well, this peterpan subject is interesting. Many of us really did believe it when it was first mentioned. I mean come on, it sounds just like him. But we were told it wasnt and we all kinda accepted it. I always kept this in the back of my mind though and Im glad others still think it's him as well.


Well if you are referring to the July 2009 message, then of COURSE you will be told it wasnt him. He supposed to be dead!! Theyre not gonna say "yep, its him...even thoguh he died over a month ago"

no one will admit its him cus they cant and wont give away that he IS alive.
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Post by STARbaybeeRoqk Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:57 pm

..i also read that and i searched up the defenition of a word and it said to change something technically to change the industry do something big that will always be remembered!
but hmm i dk
and umm thats not neccesairly(didnt spell that right lol) true about people being like a lil in denial i also always thought that it was michael as Don Nightengale, and i let my mom listen to that message and she then said what the heck that sounds just like michael
BUt to let you guys know lol....we all know that michael is a really smart man! and everything he does has A Dang good reason behind it, so if he did leave that message then it has a reason behind it, and the person is always talking about MSN idk
but uh idk the reason i mean michael knows that he has devoted fans and he also knows that when he does something for them they'll notice it and the haters wont notice it at all, so that couldve been a message to us fans to let us know that michaels okay! and doing fine! and is happy! and wants to chat on MSN lol
but idk im not really sure...just a really WILD thought lol
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Post by Angel36 Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:03 pm

STARbaybeeRoqk wrote:..i also read that and i searched up the defenition of a word and it said to change something technically to change the industry do something big that will always be remembered!
but hmm i dk
and umm thats not neccesairly(didnt spell that right lol) true about people being like a lil in denial i also always thought that it was michael as Don Nightengale, and i let my mom listen to that message and she then said what the heck that sounds just like michael
BUt to let you guys know lol....we all know that michael is a really smart man! and everything he does has A Dang good reason behind it, so if he did leave that message then it has a reason behind it, and the person is always talking about MSN idk
but uh idk the reason i mean michael knows that he has devoted fans and he also knows that when he does something for them they'll notice it and the haters wont notice it at all, so that couldve been a message to us fans to let us know that michaels okay! and doing fine! and is happy! and wants to chat on MSN lol
but idk im not really sure...just a really WILD thought lol

I think you have a point there.
If you tell people it's him they says to you that it's impossible.
They won't believe you.
So it's infact NO risk for him to get on the phone like that.
And also the conversation in this call is about chanching the music industrie such als getting Tommy Motolla terminated.
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Post by endlessfire Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:16 pm

how would you find someone on msn?
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Post by Human_nature Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:17 pm

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Post by wishful09 Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:19 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
wishful09 wrote:Well, this peterpan subject is interesting. Many of us really did believe it when it was first mentioned. I mean come on, it sounds just like him. But we were told it wasnt and we all kinda accepted it. I always kept this in the back of my mind though and Im glad others still think it's him as well.


Well if you are referring to the July 2009 message, then of COURSE you will be told it wasnt him. He supposed to be dead!! Theyre not gonna say "yep, its him...even thoguh he died over a month ago"

no one will admit its him cus they cant and wont give away that he IS alive.

Im just saying at the time, that is why I sort of put it in the back of my mind. I do believe it's him. There were people saying it definitely was him and then there was one who said it wasnt . I chose to believe him at the time. It's always been in the back of my mind though. But yeah, I believe it's him.
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Post by endlessfire Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:25 pm

anyone can get on one of these forums and say anything. that's why we must each think for OURSELVES.
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Post by Give.In.To.Me Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:38 pm

I edited my post because I found the voice comments.
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Post by emo_pinkt Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:11 pm

Since when does Mj clap his tongue like that?Anyone have any other vids/voice clips of the voice impersonator Don?
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Post by Angel36 Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:38 pm

He could do impersonate himself by talk a little bit different.IDK.
But listen also to no.34 no 35 and to no 1.
No 1 is looking for Don.
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Post by Human_nature Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:49 pm

Wherever, whatever, have a nice day !


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Post by Silence Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:41 pm

Human_nature wrote:
Well...for almost everybody, they will say it's a fake Wink
So, no real risks if you know what I mean Wink

Nothing to prove without a doubt it's him...so no real evidences ...Michael is VERY smart Smile

Try to convince someone around you who really didn't believe he's alive...do you think they will believe it's him in this call ?
I don't think Wink

It's my opinion , maybe I'm wrong too Smile


you can indeed proof it to be real or false.

a voice is like a fingerprint. what seems to us as the voice of MJ can be split up in so many parts

there are specialists who can analyze everything from the waveform to the accent and they even can tell you where someone was born, what is his age, where he moved, what education he has and many more details.
voice analysis is very common.

things we as non-specialists simply cannot hear.


If someone has the money and wants to find out they should give this call to a specialist in voice analysis.

And while the media was all over mjhd they sure will have done it and proven it to be false.


a 100 % fake


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Post by velvetsilvergirl Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:45 pm

Does anyone know what this type of voice nathcing is called. Voice Analysis? Voice Recognition? I want to lookinto a bit more but have no idea what its called.
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Post by Silence Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:47 pm

velvetsilvergirl wrote:Does anyone know what this type of voice nathcing is called. Voice Analysis? Voice Recognition? I want to lookinto a bit more but have no idea what its called.

there you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_identification
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Post by STARbaybeeRoqk Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:59 pm

ummm im sure lol that if michael has an MSN it would be pretty hard to find
they have a lot of posers out there also so idk
but umm yea thnx Angel36...lol terminated is a harsh word lol
but uh yea i heard the message i forget when lol but as i explained thats when i did my lil defenition researching lol and found out that that one word (which i forget) means to change something or make something better! hmmm???
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Post by STARbaybeeRoqk Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:02 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:That IS him!!! OMGOMGOMGOMGOMOGOMGOMOGOMOGOMOGOMOGOMG


I was listeng to 8 and its HAS GOT to be him. I will get a sex change if it isnt him. 33 and 34 are him too. One he identifies himself as MJ accepting an award and the other (34) is him as well even though he says otherwise.

#35 is smoking crack.
the one where he identifies himself and is announcing an awrd or TY thing is recorded from a original thing Michaels Thank You Speech he couldnt go to the award show and thank his fans personally so he had made a video and they played it there and he was holding the award in his hand...if you want i can send you the vid
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