WHAT IF MICHAESL REAL MIDDLE NAME WAS JOE AND NOT JOSEPH??
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WHAT IF MICHAESL REAL MIDDLE NAME WAS JOE AND NOT JOSEPH??
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Apparently MJs middle name might not have been JOSEPH but JOE, therefore debunking the death certificate which was Joseph and the coroner statement which said Joseph...
Here is 2 passports, im not really believing the one on the left, anyway they both state middle name as JOE
http://img42.imageshack.us/i/m…..sport.jpg/
Then here is the court documents from 2003 trial for child abuse which states the defendants name as MICHAEL JOE JACKSON
http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/do…..803cmp.pdf
Katherine Jackson also states in her autobiography that his birth name is MICHAEL JOE JACKSON, she is his mother she should know.
Iv checked on my passport i have 2 middle names and they are not shortened in any way....iv checked with law courts documentation and the names have to be full not shortened....
We need to find a birth certificate or try to get his childrens, see what they say as the parent name....
Maybe a MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON DID DIE, BUT NOT MICHAEL JOE JACKSON!!
Apparently MJs middle name might not have been JOSEPH but JOE, therefore debunking the death certificate which was Joseph and the coroner statement which said Joseph...
Here is 2 passports, im not really believing the one on the left, anyway they both state middle name as JOE
http://img42.imageshack.us/i/m…..sport.jpg/
Then here is the court documents from 2003 trial for child abuse which states the defendants name as MICHAEL JOE JACKSON
http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/do…..803cmp.pdf
Katherine Jackson also states in her autobiography that his birth name is MICHAEL JOE JACKSON, she is his mother she should know.
Iv checked on my passport i have 2 middle names and they are not shortened in any way....iv checked with law courts documentation and the names have to be full not shortened....
We need to find a birth certificate or try to get his childrens, see what they say as the parent name....
Maybe a MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON DID DIE, BUT NOT MICHAEL JOE JACKSON!!
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Re: WHAT IF MICHAESL REAL MIDDLE NAME WAS JOE AND NOT JOSEPH??
Deb,
Can you add this to this thread please?
https://mjkit.forumotion.net/news-and-odd-things-f8/michael-joe-jackson-is-not-michael-joseph-jackson-at-alloo-t922.htm#21817
We have one going already
Thanks Hon xoxo
Can you add this to this thread please?
https://mjkit.forumotion.net/news-and-odd-things-f8/michael-joe-jackson-is-not-michael-joseph-jackson-at-alloo-t922.htm#21817
We have one going already
Thanks Hon xoxo
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Ok no probs will u delete this Rachel, iv pasted it to the other thread, prob double posted now...sorry!!
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http://www.bookrags.com/biography/michael-joe-jackson/http
http://qanda.encyclopedia.com/question/michael-joe-jackson-243273.html
I THINK HIS REAL NAME IS MICHAEL JOE JACKSON
http://qanda.encyclopedia.com/question/michael-joe-jackson-243273.html
I THINK HIS REAL NAME IS MICHAEL JOE JACKSON
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Im pretty sure its Michael Joseph Jackson.
The other one: Michael Joe Jackson doesent sound right
The other one: Michael Joe Jackson doesent sound right
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interesting.
didnt souza say she found 2 or 3 Michael joseph jackson's in the SNN register (dont know what it's called)? Perhaps a Michael joseph jackson really did die june 25....
very interesting indeed....
didnt souza say she found 2 or 3 Michael joseph jackson's in the SNN register (dont know what it's called)? Perhaps a Michael joseph jackson really did die june 25....
very interesting indeed....
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ballongiraf wrote:interesting.
didnt souza say she found 2 or 3 Michael joseph jackson's in the SNN register (dont know what it's called)? Perhaps a Michael joseph jackson really did die june 25....
very interesting indeed....
Yes she found ,and if Im not wrong, all them sharing the same SSN.However if you try to do a research on California´s court about any Michael Joseph Jackson sued with sexual abuse,guess what...I could find none.Just Michael Joe Jackson is listed.
Really weird ahm?
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^ wow. that's very interesting....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_passport#Data_page_and_signature_page
~This may help~
~But if Not~~I Apologize~
~And I vividly recall Michael Joe Jackson being said as the name on all of the Court Documents from The Trial~The name of the man who the (False) Charges were being brought against~
~Michael's Legal Middle Name given to him at Birth is JOE~
~You cannot~~BY LAW~~Use a "Nick-Name" on Legal Official Court Documents or on Government Documents such as Passports~
~This may help~
~But if Not~~I Apologize~
~And I vividly recall Michael Joe Jackson being said as the name on all of the Court Documents from The Trial~The name of the man who the (False) Charges were being brought against~
~Michael's Legal Middle Name given to him at Birth is JOE~
~You cannot~~BY LAW~~Use a "Nick-Name" on Legal Official Court Documents or on Government Documents such as Passports~
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I was watching some videos on youtube and I came across one of Michael's wedding with Lisa Marie. And the priest or the judge or whatever that man was says something like "(bla bla bla)...Michael Joseph Jackson recently... (bla bla bla)"
Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luhQcB_2iX4&feature=PlayList&p=5DE0DB02061150C3&index=0&playnext=1
you can hear it at the beging, in the first 5 seconds of video.
Well, it was a marriage... and I think in also in these situations you have to use your full legal name!
Has anyone found more about this?
Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luhQcB_2iX4&feature=PlayList&p=5DE0DB02061150C3&index=0&playnext=1
you can hear it at the beging, in the first 5 seconds of video.
Well, it was a marriage... and I think in also in these situations you have to use your full legal name!
Has anyone found more about this?
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Re: WHAT IF MICHAESL REAL MIDDLE NAME WAS JOE AND NOT JOSEPH??
For the record...my boyfriends name is John....NOT Johnathon. It says so on his BC...He has been corrected a few times when signing things and he's had to say "My legal name is John, not Johnathon"
So it couldve been Joe and not Joseph...
So it couldve been Joe and not Joseph...
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Re: WHAT IF MICHAESL REAL MIDDLE NAME WAS JOE AND NOT JOSEPH??
Michaels name IS Michael Joseph Jackson
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Well I'm sorry but I do not believe this Jack London person.
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Re: WHAT IF MICHAESL REAL MIDDLE NAME WAS JOE AND NOT JOSEPH??
michael also lost his passpot on/after 2005 ...
anyway, i found many comments about passport with mistakes... maybe mistakes are normal
anyway, i found many comments about passport with mistakes... maybe mistakes are normal
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http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/general-discussion/topic-5310/#p86892[/quote[/url]]Grace wrote:Jack London is back and look what he said:
[url=http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/general-discussion/topic-5310/#p86892
"Michael Joseph Jackson is dead"
Is it just me or did he just write a big contradiction???
The king is dead, long live the king!
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I keep seeing the question/issue about Michael Jackson's middle name appearing in threads so I found this to set the matter to rest. This is part one of the "Dangerous Deposition from 2007" in which Michael clearly states his name at the beginning of the deposition as "Michael Joseph Jackson." He then spells his last name. I also saw a deposition about drug use and a contract dispute on CNN the other night in which Michael states and spells out all three of his names. Michael Jospeh Jackson. (I can't yet find this full deposition on YouTube.) I don't know the implications of this for various hoax theories but I saw it come up in a thread today...so here goes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW_rTHWUL3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW_rTHWUL3s
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I don't know much about this Jack London. Someone care to enlighten me?
He bolded the name "Michael Joseph Jackson".Grace wrote:Jack London is back and look what he said:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/general-discussion/topic-5310/#p86892[/quote]
"Michael Joseph Jackson is dead"
Is it just me or did he just write a big contradiction???
The king is dead, long live the king!
I don't know much about this Jack London. Someone care to enlighten me?
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http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/06/75951/
this is birth certificate of paris, it's say's father is MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON
this is birth certificate of paris, it's say's father is MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON
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Hi sis
but i thought the mothers name was deborah "jeanne" rowe not jean???
but i thought the mothers name was deborah "jeanne" rowe not jean???
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/jackocharge1.html
Yet, this says Michael JOE Jackson along with many other court papers. In court, I really don't think you would get very far with a variation of your name.
But when he married LMP, his name was Michael JOSEPH Jackson. I highly doubt he would legally change his name from Joseph, to Joe in 03 to Joseph again.
And with the birth certificates, I thought his eldest son's name was Prince.
And what's up with Debbie's name on both of those?
And his will, the kids names are different.
This whole thing is ODD & confusing!
Yet, this says Michael JOE Jackson along with many other court papers. In court, I really don't think you would get very far with a variation of your name.
But when he married LMP, his name was Michael JOSEPH Jackson. I highly doubt he would legally change his name from Joseph, to Joe in 03 to Joseph again.
And with the birth certificates, I thought his eldest son's name was Prince.
And what's up with Debbie's name on both of those?
And his will, the kids names are different.
This whole thing is ODD & confusing!
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I recently watched a video on youtube, something about the trial of 1996 when Michael was requested to declare his correct and complete name and he replied :MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON.
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Oh geeeeeeeeez
He's Mike okayyyyyyyy?
He's Mike okayyyyyyyy?
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the parent name on the birth certificates is Joseph
http://www.etonline.com/documents/et_michaeljackson_certificates_090630.pdf
http://www.etonline.com/documents/et_michaeljackson_certificates_090630.pdf
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ziffes wrote:the parent name on the birth certificates is Joseph
http://www.etonline.com/documents/et_michaeljackson_certificates_090630.pdf
watch here, BC are fake, imo, because Debbie name is not correct.
One is Deborah JEAN Rowe and the other Deborah JEANNE Rowe
here the link :
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8229000/MIchael-Jacksons-Children-birth-certificates
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Human_nature wrote:
watch here, BC are fake, imo, because Debbie name is not correct.
One is Deborah JEAN Rowe and the other Deborah JEANNE Rowe
Maybe Debbie Rowe is gonna fake her death, too.
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annieisnotokey wrote:Human_nature wrote:
watch here, BC are fake, imo, because Debbie name is not correct.
One is Deborah JEAN Rowe and the other Deborah JEANNE Rowe
Maybe Debbie Rowe is gonna fake her death, too.
At this point...pffff why not LOL
But....which Debbie.....??? Deborah JEAN or Deborah JEANNE hmmmm......
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Human_nature wrote:annieisnotokey wrote:Human_nature wrote:
watch here, BC are fake, imo, because Debbie name is not correct.
One is Deborah JEAN Rowe and the other Deborah JEANNE Rowe
Maybe Debbie Rowe is gonna fake her death, too.
At this point...pffff why not LOL
But....which Debbie.....??? Deborah JEAN or Deborah JEANNE hmmmm......
That remains to be analysed in the DebbieRoweHoaxDeath.com Forum.
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@Annie ....speechless..it's how you make me feel ♪
you know how much I luv you , don't you ?
you know how much I luv you , don't you ?
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Human_nature wrote:@Annie ....speechless..it's how you make me feel ♪
you know how much I luv you , don't you ?
I know and I luv you back!
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Just came across this while doing a google search. Hope it hasn't already been posted here...if so...my apologies.
http://forums.horsecity.com/index.php?showtopic=47048033
At the link above there are the passports but also the Motown recording contract which is also signed...Michael Joe Jackson.
http://forums.horsecity.com/index.php?showtopic=47048033
At the link above there are the passports but also the Motown recording contract which is also signed...Michael Joe Jackson.
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ForeverAutumn65 wrote:Just came across this while doing a google search. Hope it hasn't already been posted here...if so...my apologies.
http://forums.horsecity.com/index.php?showtopic=47048033
At the link above there are the passports but also the Motown recording contract which is also signed...Michael Joe Jackson.
wow i havent seen this before...
nice find..
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@ziffes thank you. I don't think this is going to settle the debate about the Joe/Joseph middle name. But I did find it interesting.
ETA: This isn't actually the Motown Contract. This is the description of the document:
IN 1978, THE JACKSON FIVE TRANSFERS RIGHTS OF THE SONGS THEY WROTE
FOR THE DESTINY ALBUM TO PEACOCK MUSIC PUBLISHING COMPANY; THIS WAS THE
FIRST TIME THE JACKSONS WROTE AND PRODUCED THEIR OWN MATERIAL. THEIR FATHER, JOE
JACKSON, SIGNS FOR THE PUBLISHING COMPANY!
http://www.historyforsale.com/html/prodetails.asp?documentid=217586
ETA: This isn't actually the Motown Contract. This is the description of the document:
IN 1978, THE JACKSON FIVE TRANSFERS RIGHTS OF THE SONGS THEY WROTE
FOR THE DESTINY ALBUM TO PEACOCK MUSIC PUBLISHING COMPANY; THIS WAS THE
FIRST TIME THE JACKSONS WROTE AND PRODUCED THEIR OWN MATERIAL. THEIR FATHER, JOE
JACKSON, SIGNS FOR THE PUBLISHING COMPANY!
http://www.historyforsale.com/html/prodetails.asp?documentid=217586
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well here is something taken from the latest link up above:
THE JACKSON FIVE. Important Partly Printed Document Signed: "Joseph W. Jackson", "Steven R. Jackson", "Michael Joe Jackson", "Marlon D. Jackson", "Tariano A. Jackson" and "Sigmund E. Jackson", 2p, 8½x14, front and verso.
in the clip from court (were Michael got his verdict) they called him with the middle name JOE.
and if the court dont use his real name who does? so i must be JOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV8hzaYNdNM
and then the birth certificates from his children are fake... like so much else on the internet *LOL*
in his passport it is JOE
so im really sure his middle name is JOE. because of the official documents..
but hey.. who really know except his family
THE JACKSON FIVE. Important Partly Printed Document Signed: "Joseph W. Jackson", "Steven R. Jackson", "Michael Joe Jackson", "Marlon D. Jackson", "Tariano A. Jackson" and "Sigmund E. Jackson", 2p, 8½x14, front and verso.
in the clip from court (were Michael got his verdict) they called him with the middle name JOE.
and if the court dont use his real name who does? so i must be JOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV8hzaYNdNM
and then the birth certificates from his children are fake... like so much else on the internet *LOL*
in his passport it is JOE
so im really sure his middle name is JOE. because of the official documents..
but hey.. who really know except his family
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NEVER ENDING STORY........
Joe. Nope-Joseph. Ur wrong-it's Joe! Kidding me?! It's Joseph!!! Well, but i know for sure it's JOE!!! Heh, how many time i have to repeat his real name is Joseph, huh?! J-O-S-E-P-H, got it?! o, ur sooo wrong! I have a proof it's J-O-E! So what, i have one for Joseph-not to undermine, sorry...Pffff, Joe as i said...
Tra-la-la-la......And im saying-FORGET IT! It doesn't matter! Is Francesca okayyyyyyyyyy?
Joe. Nope-Joseph. Ur wrong-it's Joe! Kidding me?! It's Joseph!!! Well, but i know for sure it's JOE!!! Heh, how many time i have to repeat his real name is Joseph, huh?! J-O-S-E-P-H, got it?! o, ur sooo wrong! I have a proof it's J-O-E! So what, i have one for Joseph-not to undermine, sorry...Pffff, Joe as i said...
Tra-la-la-la......And im saying-FORGET IT! It doesn't matter! Is Francesca okayyyyyyyyyy?
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Okay...point well taken. I found the info last night, thought I'd share it. Won't make that mistake again..Back to lurking for me...
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Re: WHAT IF MICHAESL REAL MIDDLE NAME WAS JOE AND NOT JOSEPH??
You are right, it doesn't matter as my son name is Joseph and at times I call him Joe, but his nick name is Jo-Jo. He may have done thant intentionally.
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yea i'm sure it is 2 because on this deposition tape he states his name is Michael Joseph Jackson here's the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW_rTHWUL3s so i think it's JosephMyBelovedMJ wrote:Im pretty sure its Michael Joseph Jackson.
The other one: Michael Joe Jackson doesent sound right
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