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Post by Sweet1 Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:40 am

Well! one thing is for certain. The 02 guy was not MJ and either the ambulance pic was photostopped or some impersonator. I do believe it was MJ behind the camera at the rehearsals chewing gum. Some things you just know within your heart. Keep in mind guys the probablility of an MJ lookalike existing that has never been shown to the world is highly probable. We will never know who it was. But whoever it was even though it was an exact replicant wasn't MJ. Keep the Faith!
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Post by Human_nature Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:42 am

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by MJfan777 Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:44 am

Sweet1 wrote:Well! one thing is for certain. The 02 guy was not MJ and either the ambulance pic was photostopped or some impersonator. I do believe it was MJ behind the camera at the rehearsals chewing gum. Some things you just know within your heart. Keep in mind guys the probablility of an MJ lookalike existing that has never been shown to the world is highly probable. We will never know who it was. But whoever it was even though it was an exact replicant wasn't MJ. Keep the Faith!

yah,
i believe was ecas in london and ambulance pic is a old picture or fake body, i dont know o_o
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Post by MJfan777 Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:46 am

Human_nature wrote:I watched alot of videos with E'casanova....

I don't think in the video at Audigier's party he had an ugly face....or was odd....

hm, ok.
i talked to ''ecas'' from myspace, and he said that guy was not ecasanova.
if not is him, is a fan, and maybe he know if is or not the idol...but, ok. your opinion Smile
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Post by Human_nature Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:52 am

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by MJfan777 Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:58 am

Human_nature wrote:
MJalive wrote:
Human_nature wrote:I watched alot of videos with E'casanova....

I don't think in the video at Audigier's party he had an ugly face....or was odd....

hm, ok.
i talked to ''ecas'' from myspace, and he said that guy was not ecasanova.
if not is him, is a fan, and maybe he know if is or not the idol...but, ok. your opinion Smile

ok, so this is great if you know him and you're sure it's not him.

So, where was the last show of ecas..and where are is future shows ?

I see nothing on the fan page.....

that is the problema, i told you.
anybody know anything about him o_o (since 2007/2008)
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Post by Human_nature Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:04 am

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by Truth_or_Dare Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:26 am

Maybe it's just me but does anyone lelse find this poem "strange"? (it's from ecasanova's myspace)

IF I DIED
TOMORROW
Current mood:SENSE OF URGENCY
Category: Life


If I Died Tomorrow...

There
would be a wake, an empty wake
of which few souls would dare partake
There
would be tears, some useless tears,
from those I've met through all the
years
There would be talk, a lot of talk
some talks of waste and my cut
stalk
That is, if I died tomorrow...

I would lay in coffin
black
with handles brass as if to fend
off some invisible attack
I'd
lay so still but feel no pain
my eyes stay closed, not seeing the light
I
shall never lose but never gain
That is, if I died tomorrow...

There
would be a stone, a lifeless stone
over this grave I call my own
There
would be grass, beautiful grass
who's beauty I could not try to
surpass
There would be trees, tremendous trees
who soar to heights that
only a bird sees
That is, if I died tomorrow...

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Post by PETTINA2393 Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:29 am

I found this page, maybe you already saw it but in case you didn't ...

http://www.legendsinconcert.com/performers/michael-jackson-141/

his real name is Exavier Casanova Evans.
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Post by Human_nature Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:35 am

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by PETTINA2393 Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:36 am

u r wellcome Wink
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Post by Human_nature Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:10 am

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by Smelly Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:10 am

LMAO!!!!
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Post by kdkennedy74 Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:38 am

MJalive wrote:@human_nature

n that video, who was behind michael?? dileo and.... tohme? What a Face

here, 21 may E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Mjmay

I have a slight problem with this picture. When have you ever seen Michael wear a necklace? Also, I don't remember ever seeing him with chest hair. Just an observation.
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Post by Human_nature Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:41 am

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Post by kdkennedy74 Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:53 am

The very FIRST time I saw that picture in a magazine I immediately said it was not him because of the necklace. I could not see the body hair until this picture was enlarged here. Also, did I notice that E Cas kicks with the wrong leg?
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Post by Airun Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:55 am

I think he's not Michael too.
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Post by dunno_it Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:06 am

talking about e'Cassanova and the ambulance pic in relation to each other...well what is the strangest thing about that photo, do you remember? i guess it's the malformed/pointy/definitely not MJ's ears...but are they E'Casanova's? don't think so, his ears are too round and don't match the ambulance guy's ears, what do you think??
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Post by Human_nature Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:14 am

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Post by IWSICS Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:17 am

lmao funny you should say that- first thing i noticed too was the chest hair! ecas' ears are just What a Face could be on to something BIG here guys!
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:30 am

kdkennedy74 wrote:
MJalive wrote:@human_nature

n that video, who was behind michael?? dileo and.... tohme? What a Face

here, 21 may E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Mjmay

I have a slight problem with this picture. When have you ever seen Michael wear a necklace? Also, I don't remember ever seeing him with chest hair. Just an observation.


Ive seen Michael wear a necklace before. In a interwiev he did with Babara Walters, after Prince was born. The chest hair, you know, he could get it waxed or shaved. You never know. Either way, I would like to help him with that lol!
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:33 am

Human_nature wrote:look :

E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Michael-jackson-ambulance

e'casanova screen capture of the video :

E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 20090902043845

E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 20090902043912
E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 20090902043950


Not to be a downer or anything. But are you sure, the skin in the ambulance picture arent daker because of the dark windows??? I mean it could look daker because of that?? No matter what, I dont want that to be Michael
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:43 am

EarthAngel90 wrote:Fake Michael at Reheasals + O2 Conference ... Real Michael at Camera w/ Kenny Ortega.

AGREED!!!! Fake MJ in rehearsal vid chewing gum...his forehead is too short.

Im not sure about Ecas being dude in the ambulance either....look at the ear pics again...REALLY CLOSE.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:46 am

Give.In.To.Me wrote:
Human_nature wrote:
MJalive wrote:
Human_nature wrote:so....

If we can't find a RECENT picture of E'casanova...

Maybe we just have many ....

Just in front of us ...as... MJ ? Suspect affraid

sure.
check out this:

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are the same person to me Rolling Eyes

ok now, we really have a MATCH !! affraid

Wow..it's amazing....I will faint and I'll be back hehe Laughing

Great finding! However i do notice that on the "MJ" picture out with Prince...the ear is not the pointy one that Ecasanova has. But i do notice the similarities but the ear shape throws me off...

Left Mj and Middle MJ = FAKE

Right MJ = REAL MJ
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:53 am

E`cass has to dark skin to be Left MJ

I think its Michael. he is hugging this girl who was his friend, I think she would know, if it wasent Michael
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Post by MJJ Love Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:58 am

Wow, U guys are awesome at finding stuff and breaking it all down.
That pic of E Cas supposedly at the Memorial definitely looks fake and photoshopped in. Just looks totally odd.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:01 am

The MJ on the right is the real MJ

The one on the left, I THINK, is a fake....I always try and look for a certain feature on MJ's face that I dont think anyone has mentioned.

If you look at pics of real mj, look at the alignment of his nose and his top lip....its off a little bit....but noticeable.
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Post by IWSICS Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:03 am

To be honest, i dont even know HOW they got that ambulance picture. So that i could get an un-biast answer I posted a question on Yahoo answers some time ago.. in about July asking..

Is it possible to take a photo of someone if..?


They are in a car with tinted windows? (good quality tinted windows)
And for the picture to come out in colour?
Professional and standard cameras.

Thanks guys! =]

I got 3 answers:

Answerer 1

stop being creepy .. why would anybody do this? (HAHAHA, MY THOUGHTS TOO)

Answerer 2
If they are completely tinted no chance Sad

But if partially or 70% Hd tech cameras can do it while ordinary 50%

Answerer 3




I
think this is a perfectly valid question. You often see paparazzi and
photojournalists taking shots through tinted windows of celebrities and
police wagons etc..

The truth is I am not too sure. You would need to sufficiently
illuminate the subject behind the glass to take a good image, and even
with flash on, the subject will likely not seen well enough for the
lens to get a clear image. I doubt that a polarizing filter will do
much as it will simply reduce the glare and reflections on the outside
and not allow you to 'see in' as such.

I'm just guessing here, but I would say no.. I could be wrong.

I guess that photographers who do shoot at heavily tinted glass do so on the off chance that they may get a good image.

Interesting question.



Begs the question- How the fuzzy-lumpkins did they even take it through the tinted windows? If there was a flash on the camera there is no way in hell he would have got the pic.. ive tried to take a picture with my camera (a canon SLR ) through a window and it just comes out white!! but i dont know. I think its fake anyway or its ecas' but.. just thought id share it.

PS, my stepdad who is highly skeptikal everything but does think Mj has gone said ''people can stage these things so easily'' when i told him that the media had released this pic. even the non-believers have their days..

love and hugs xx
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:06 am

Left and right MJ is the same one and real, if you ask me. Thats my story and Im sticking to it lol!
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:09 am

IWSICS wrote:To be honest, i dont even know HOW they got that ambulance picture. So that i could get an un-biast answer I posted a question on Yahoo answers some time ago.. in about July asking..

Is it possible to take a photo of someone if..?


They are in a car with tinted windows? (good quality tinted windows)
And for the picture to come out in colour?
Professional and standard cameras.

Thanks guys! =]

I got 3 answers:

Answerer 1

stop being creepy .. why would anybody do this? (HAHAHA, MY THOUGHTS TOO)

Answerer 2
If they are completely tinted no chance Sad

But if partially or 70% Hd tech cameras can do it while ordinary 50%

Answerer 3




I
think this is a perfectly valid question. You often see paparazzi and
photojournalists taking shots through tinted windows of celebrities and
police wagons etc..

The truth is I am not too sure. You would need to sufficiently
illuminate the subject behind the glass to take a good image, and even
with flash on, the subject will likely not seen well enough for the
lens to get a clear image. I doubt that a polarizing filter will do
much as it will simply reduce the glare and reflections on the outside
and not allow you to 'see in' as such.

I'm just guessing here, but I would say no.. I could be wrong.

I guess that photographers who do shoot at heavily tinted glass do so on the off chance that they may get a good image.

Interesting question.



Begs the question- How the fuzzy-lumpkins did they even take it through the tinted windows? If there was a flash on the camera there is no way in hell he would have got the pic.. ive tried to take a picture with my camera (a canon SLR ) through a window and it just comes out white!! but i dont know. I think its fake anyway or its ecas' but.. just thought id share it.

PS, my stepdad who is highly skeptikal everything but does think Mj has gone said ''people can stage these things so easily'' when i told him that the media had released this pic. even the non-believers have their days..

love and hugs xx


What I think NOW? I think they took that pic PRIOR to all this happeneing. Maybe the day before somewhere else? And on the DAY OF the death, they just re-enacted their efforts, or "pretended" to take a pic to make it look real, like they "got a Picture of MJ in the ambulance" when the whole time they already had one to show the public. They never got a picture the day of the death, they just acted like they did.

Damn Im good!!
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Post by hungry Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:10 am

I heard somewhere that E'Casanova actually doesn't have a life-thretening disease though... his myspace or something was hacked :/
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:10 am

MyBelovedMJ wrote:Left and right MJ is the same one and real, if you ask me. Thats my story and Im sticking to it lol!

Oh thats fine sweets!! LOL....its hard to tell sometimes for me too depending on the lighting and if he has sunglasses on. That pic on the left is one of those difficult ones for me....I still think its a fake MJ.
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Post by IWSICS Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:13 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
IWSICS wrote:To be honest, i dont even know HOW they got that ambulance picture. So that i could get an un-biast answer I posted a question on Yahoo answers some time ago.. in about July asking..

Is it possible to take a photo of someone if..?


They are in a car with tinted windows? (good quality tinted windows)
And for the picture to come out in colour?
Professional and standard cameras.

Thanks guys! =]

I got 3 answers:

Answerer 1

stop being creepy .. why would anybody do this? (HAHAHA, MY THOUGHTS TOO)

Answerer 2
If they are completely tinted no chance Sad

But if partially or 70% Hd tech cameras can do it while ordinary 50%

Answerer 3




I
think this is a perfectly valid question. You often see paparazzi and
photojournalists taking shots through tinted windows of celebrities and
police wagons etc..

The truth is I am not too sure. You would need to sufficiently
illuminate the subject behind the glass to take a good image, and even
with flash on, the subject will likely not seen well enough for the
lens to get a clear image. I doubt that a polarizing filter will do
much as it will simply reduce the glare and reflections on the outside
and not allow you to 'see in' as such.

I'm just guessing here, but I would say no.. I could be wrong.

I guess that photographers who do shoot at heavily tinted glass do so on the off chance that they may get a good image.

Interesting question.



Begs the question- How the fuzzy-lumpkins did they even take it through the tinted windows? If there was a flash on the camera there is no way in hell he would have got the pic.. ive tried to take a picture with my camera (a canon SLR ) through a window and it just comes out white!! but i dont know. I think its fake anyway or its ecas' but.. just thought id share it.

PS, my stepdad who is highly skeptikal everything but does think Mj has gone said ''people can stage these things so easily'' when i told him that the media had released this pic. even the non-believers have their days..

love and hugs xx


What I think NOW? I think they took that pic PRIOR to all this happeneing. Maybe the day before somewhere else? And on the DAY OF the death, they just re-enacted their efforts, or "pretended" to take a pic to make it look real, like they "got a Picture of MJ in the ambulance" when the whole time they already had one to show the public. They never got a picture the day of the death, they just acted like they did.

Damn Im good!!

Haha, YES YOU ARE GOOD afro and I agree.. that pic was NOT June 25th 2009. noooooooo way!!
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Post by Human_nature Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:13 am

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:18 am

And personally, I dont think Ecas even looks like MJ. He IS the best impersonator looks wise,

Look at Ecas ear pic again. His ears are pointy but look at the LOBE of his ear, where you put an earring...its still there, where in the mangled ear pics, its not.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!
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Post by Human_nature Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:20 am

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:24 am

Human_nature wrote:
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:And personally, I dont think Ecas even looks like MJ. He IS the best impersonator looks wise,

Look at Ecas ear pic again. His ears are pointy but look at the LOBE of his ear, where you put an earring...its still there, where in the mangled ear pics, its not.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!

This is all OLD pictures. No recent pictures of E'Casanova ..so...we really don't know if his ears have been damaged or not Wink


Aw yes,,, I forgot!!
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:27 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:Left and right MJ is the same one and real, if you ask me. Thats my story and Im sticking to it lol!

Oh thats fine sweets!! LOL....its hard to tell sometimes for me too depending on the lighting and if he has sunglasses on. That pic on the left is one of those difficult ones for me....I still think its a fake MJ.

Thats you`re story and you are sticking to it lol!
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Post by Loree Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:05 am

Goshh! I get really confused in this forum XD
but I think E'Cas was at the o2 press conference
and he was also the guy on the ambulance
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Post by MJfan777 Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:45 pm

hungry wrote:I heard somewhere that E'Casanova actually doesn't have a life-thretening disease though... his myspace or something was hacked :/

but, if its true ... his myspace was hacked 2 YEARS ago and just NOW he or s friend is talking about it??? ....this is weird.


btw, everything here is weird.
the name of that tour should be THIS IS WEIRD!
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Post by nohype Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:22 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:Left and right MJ is the same one and real, if you ask me. Thats my story and Im sticking to it lol!

I completely AGREE with you...I posted these 2 pic's before on another site as showing the real MJ, IMO... Smile
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Post by DareMe Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:27 pm

I heard somewhere that E'Casanova actually doesn't have a life-thretening disease though... his myspace or something was hacked :/

That just seems awfully too convenient IMO, seems like a good cover up if you ask me.. When exactly was the statement released of him dying? And of all people some one could hack and stage their death, why him? Also, I recall their being a letter of some sort.. could that be too fake? I've never seen anyone go to such lengths just to do such a thing before, hacking is one thing, but forging a letter? Once again, I must ask.. why?? It's funny because, recently Britney Spear's (If I do recall, similar scenario happened with Miley Cyrus earlier that week or so as well..) twitter was "hacked" and supposedly she tweeted, quote "I died." Rolling Eyes Seems things lose their clarity the closer you look at it..
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Post by ballongiraf Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:02 am

Human_nature wrote:Y

E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Casovamemorial


uhm... isnt that the jacket that MJ wore at the O2 announcement?
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Post by MJfan777 Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:25 am

ballongiraf wrote:
Human_nature wrote:Y

E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Casovamemorial


uhm... isnt that the jacket that MJ wore at the O2 announcement?

MJalive wrote:i dont know if ecas was at the memorial:

- I have not read ANY comment from any fan about ecas at the memorial (and u know, he have MANY boot licker)
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this is the only picture inside Staples Center by fan/not media ( why
him?) he want to proof what? ''i rly was there''? and come'on your idol
died and you are well to take a picture but is not good enough to do a
show tribute to him?? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
- its disproportionate (his size)
- check out tthis picture: around ecas and that guy beside him, you will see a big diference of pixels.
E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Ecas2.th

- what is that?
E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Ecas3

- and his neck: white or black tshirt?
E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Ecas4


and, Ecas have a werid past of fake pictures:
which of this one is the original? (michael smiling or not/ecas smiling or not) rabbit

E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Putz E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 03ecasanovawiththekingo

My fav:

E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Failmsi


Very Happy Very Happy
and about his clothes, what it means?
when im using that tshirt is not the real MJ...?
E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Nhai

well, maybe...

E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Hgfgy





E'Casanova .."Houston we have a problem !" - Page 3 Fail
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Post by Gabriel Walker Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:08 am

To me, E'cas looks like an extra/secret Jackson family member. It's just my take.
Also, in the enlarged pic which show MJ's hands ( very nice, and thanks to the poster for putting that up) the fingernails are NOT discolored.
Oh it's such a hall of mirrors!
One thing about this whole scenario~ 'We're not in Kansa now Toto!'
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Post by happytomato Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:38 pm

Sorry, i think that E'Casanova is alive
http://www.lvrj.com/neon/55668827.html

It's hard to separate one of
Jackson's songs from his own way of performing them. The show will veer
from literal to wildly interpretive, from Jackson impersonator E.
Casanova to performances of deep album cuts and hits "we are taking
apart completely" with new arrangements.
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Post by Human_nature Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:07 pm

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by Guest Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:15 pm

Thats not what its saying happytomato.. Press are just mentioning E cas thats all.

E..cas is a big player in this im sure!!

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