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Post by spider monkey on Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:40 am

this is the man who MJ proudly called friend, and was one of those given special mention in his Oxford speech.

but here are some quotes from the Rabbi on Michael Jackson, from different online articles:


  • Of course, there was Michael’s constant plastic
    surgery. How much could one man so hate himself, we asked, that he is prepared
    to disfigure his face utterly?
  • ‘As far as Michael’s materialism and decadence,
    particularly when we watched him on TV spending millions of dollars on useless
    baubles, is it really all that different to the rest of us who have maxed our
    credit cards buying junk we don’t need to compensate for an insatiable inner
    emptiness?
  • ‘There were also Michael’s broken relationships.
    Two divorces, estrangement from brothers and sisters, and extremely
    questionable and perhaps even criminal sexual activities. Yes, few of us,
    fortunately, are guilty of such crimes.
  • Michael was accused of pedophilia. But my
    children and his children were playmates. Yes, I made sure to supervise.
  • He was highly imperfect and was perhaps guilty of serious, terrible sins for which there might not be any forgiveness.
  • The belief that he is different - more elevated, more sensitive than ordinary folks, and thus not subject to rules of right and wrong led to the destruction of the life and career of Michael Jackson, a man who ONCE HAD CONSIDERABLE GOOD IN HIM (caps mine). If you thought he was having too much plastic surgery, well, as a mere earthling (SARCASTIC!!!) you could never understand the image needs of a superstar. And if you thought that sharing a bed with a child, however platonic, was disgusting, well, that, too, is because seeing it from your mortal vantage point could never enlighten you as to how the self-proclaimed 'voice of the voiceless' sees it.
  • But Michael fell back on this messiah-complex to give meaning to his
    suffering. He never saw himself as having made mistakes that caused his
    anguish throughout his life, and even now in his trial feels that he is
    being unfairly persecuted. Rather, just as Christ was crucified for the
    sins of mankind, but remained innocent all along, so too Michael
    Jackson. Little did Michael realize that all sin results from hubris.
    How sad that Michael could never see that a man who spends tens of
    millions of dollars on himself per year in the most lavish lifestyle,
    and has his security guards holding his umbrella for him even while he
    is on trial for his very life (where you would think he might finally
    have learned to exhibit some humility) is hardly the Messiah. He's just
    another self-absorbed Hollywood celebrity.

And now he wants us to buy his book on Michael.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593156022/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1253341710&sr=1-2-fkmr2


“Whether you loved or hated Michael Jackson, this was a tragic waste
of a life. He had a mixed history, he reached many people and he may have
been guilty of terrible things
, but that doesn’t mean he had nothing to
say.




shame on me if i do.


furthermore, the idea is growing on me that this enemy list is actually a message from Michael. all the others mentioned are givens, but i think we are being asked to beware of Uri and Schmuley...
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Post by Truth_or_Dare on Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:34 am

MY GOD!!! These people should be ashamed of themselves! Even IF at one point in their lives they were Michael's friends and them "saw him for who he really is" what does that say about them? Going to the media to say such things about someone who you once called a friend???

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Post by MJSmile4Us on Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:45 am

all I can say is that man Rabbi Shmuck will never get any cent from me!!!!
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Post by GirlSaturday on Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:59 am

WOW! It seems that lots of MJ's "friend" are writing books. Who will be next?

spider monkey wrote:this is the man who MJ proudly called friend, and was one of those given special mention in his Oxford speech.

but here are some quotes from the Rabbi on Michael Jackson, from different online articles:



  • Of course, there was Michael’s constant plastic
    surgery. How much could one man so hate himself, we asked, that he is prepared
    to disfigure his face utterly?
  • ‘As far as Michael’s materialism and decadence,
    particularly when we watched him on TV spending millions of dollars on useless
    baubles, is it really all that different to the rest of us who have maxed our
    credit cards buying junk we don’t need to compensate for an insatiable inner
    emptiness?
  • ‘There were also Michael’s broken relationships.
    Two divorces, estrangement from brothers and sisters, and extremely
    questionable and perhaps even criminal sexual activities. Yes, few of us,
    fortunately, are guilty of such crimes.
  • Michael was accused of pedophilia. But my
    children and his children were playmates. Yes, I made sure to supervise.
  • He was highly imperfect and was perhaps guilty of serious, terrible sins for which there might not be any forgiveness.
  • The belief that he is different - more elevated, more sensitive than ordinary folks, and thus not subject to rules of right and wrong led to the destruction of the life and career of Michael Jackson, a man who ONCE HAD CONSIDERABLE GOOD IN HIM (caps mine). If you thought he was having too much plastic surgery, well, as a mere earthling (SARCASTIC!!!) you could never understand the image needs of a superstar. And if you thought that sharing a bed with a child, however platonic, was disgusting, well, that, too, is because seeing it from your mortal vantage point could never enlighten you as to how the self-proclaimed 'voice of the voiceless' sees it.
  • But Michael fell back on this messiah-complex to give meaning to his
    suffering. He never saw himself as having made mistakes that caused his
    anguish throughout his life, and even now in his trial feels that he is
    being unfairly persecuted. Rather, just as Christ was crucified for the
    sins of mankind, but remained innocent all along, so too Michael
    Jackson. Little did Michael realize that all sin results from hubris.
    How sad that Michael could never see that a man who spends tens of
    millions of dollars on himself per year in the most lavish lifestyle,
    and has his security guards holding his umbrella for him even while he
    is on trial for his very life (where you would think he might finally
    have learned to exhibit some humility) is hardly the Messiah. He's just
    another self-absorbed Hollywood celebrity.

And now he wants us to buy his book on Michael.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593156022/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1253341710&sr=1-2-fkmr2


“Whether you loved or hated Michael Jackson, this was a tragic waste
of a life. He had a mixed history, he reached many people and he may have
been guilty of terrible things
, but that doesn’t mean he had nothing to
say.




shame on me if i do.


furthermore, the idea is growing on me that this enemy list is actually a message from Michael. all the others mentioned are givens, but i think we are being asked to beware of Uri and Schmuley...
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Post by dontmakeitfactual on Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:04 am

It makes me laugh (or cry, I don't know anymore!) how this Rabbi Shmuck guy attempts to add deepness of thought and even a touch of mysticism to his altogether shallow conclusions. I'd very much enjoy picking his writing apart and presenting the details that will show the evilish psychological profile behind it, but, hey, I've got more important things to do.

But we all knooooow, by now, that what goes around comes around....

Good luck Mr Shmuck. I have a clear conscience, how about you?
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Post by GirlSaturday on Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:09 am

It saddens me to think of the many shallow people that were part of MJ's life. I expect that there were plenty of a**kissers. Regular people have to interact with those types too. MJ must have had 1000x as many to deal with.

dontmakeitfactual wrote:It makes me laugh (or cry, I don't know anymore!) how this Rabbi Shmuck guy attempts to add deepness of thought and even a touch of mysticism to his altogether shallow conclusions. I'd very much enjoy picking his writing apart and presenting the details that will show the evilish psychological profile behind it, but, hey, I've got more important things to do.

But we all knooooow, by now, that what goes around comes around....

Good luck Mr Shmuck. I have a clear conscience, how about you?
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Post by dontmakeitfactual on Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:25 am

GirlSaturday wrote:It saddens me to think of the many shallow people that were part of MJ's life. I expect that there were plenty of a**kissers. Regular people have to interact with those types too. MJ must have had 1000x as many to deal with.

dontmakeitfactual wrote:It makes me laugh (or cry, I don't know anymore!) how this Rabbi Shmuck guy attempts to add deepness of thought and even a touch of mysticism to his altogether shallow conclusions. I'd very much enjoy picking his writing apart and presenting the details that will show the evilish psychological profile behind it, but, hey, I've got more important things to do.

But we all knooooow, by now, that what goes around comes around....

Good luck Mr Shmuck. I have a clear conscience, how about you?

True. But, contrary to what the media tries to feed us, I believe Michael had a very good eye for it and was able to spot this type of people.... I'm sure he'd seen enough to be wary of people and never trust 100%. I guess there have been plenty of 'friends' with far from benign intentions, who believed that Michael was gullible enough to trust them; but I'm sure MJ knew what was going on all along. The best player keeps their cards hidden, if you know what I mean. You don't tell your enemy you know they are out to get you, you play along with them and play dumb...then you outsmart them Smile
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Post by GirlSaturday on Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:28 am

I believe that one of MJ's greatest assets is that people UNDERestimate him.

dontmakeitfactual wrote:
GirlSaturday wrote:It saddens me to think of the many shallow people that were part of MJ's life. I expect that there were plenty of a**kissers. Regular people have to interact with those types too. MJ must have had 1000x as many to deal with.

dontmakeitfactual wrote:It makes me laugh (or cry, I don't know anymore!) how this Rabbi Shmuck guy attempts to add deepness of thought and even a touch of mysticism to his altogether shallow conclusions. I'd very much enjoy picking his writing apart and presenting the details that will show the evilish psychological profile behind it, but, hey, I've got more important things to do.

But we all knooooow, by now, that what goes around comes around....

Good luck Mr Shmuck. I have a clear conscience, how about you?

True. But, contrary to what the media tries to feed us, I believe Michael had a very good eye for it and was able to spot this type of people.... I'm sure he'd seen enough to be wary of people and never trust 100%. I guess there have been plenty of 'friends' with far from benign intentions, who believed that Michael was gullible enough to trust them; but I'm sure MJ knew what was going on all along. The best player keeps their cards hidden, if you know what I mean. You don't tell your enemy you know they are out to get you, you play along with them and play dumb...then you outsmart them
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Post by dontmakeitfactual on Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:36 am

GirlSaturday wrote:I believe that one of MJ's greatest assets is that people UNDERestimate him.

dontmakeitfactual wrote:
GirlSaturday wrote:It saddens me to think of the many shallow people that were part of MJ's life. I expect that there were plenty of a**kissers. Regular people have to interact with those types too. MJ must have had 1000x as many to deal with.

dontmakeitfactual wrote:It makes me laugh (or cry, I don't know anymore!) how this Rabbi Shmuck guy attempts to add deepness of thought and even a touch of mysticism to his altogether shallow conclusions. I'd very much enjoy picking his writing apart and presenting the details that will show the evilish psychological profile behind it, but, hey, I've got more important things to do.

But we all knooooow, by now, that what goes around comes around....

Good luck Mr Shmuck. I have a clear conscience, how about you?

True. But, contrary to what the media tries to feed us, I believe Michael had a very good eye for it and was able to spot this type of people.... I'm sure he'd seen enough to be wary of people and never trust 100%. I guess there have been plenty of 'friends' with far from benign intentions, who believed that Michael was gullible enough to trust them; but I'm sure MJ knew what was going on all along. The best player keeps their cards hidden, if you know what I mean. You don't tell your enemy you know they are out to get you, you play along with them and play dumb...then you outsmart them

ABSOLUTELY! Cool
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Post by mjj29081958 on Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:52 am

Well, he'll not get anything from me either!

I'll just ignore the comments of this kind of "friends".

I agree with you two girls: Michael knows exactly who are the real ones!
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Post by Savannah on Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:09 am

I wonder how many books will be wrote AFTER Michael returns??? Of course, Michaels "so called friends" will have to debunk the first books they wrote...LOL! When Michael comes back to us, he will see who his friends really are...and the way I see it, this Rabbi dude will NOT be one of them! Poor Michael...why can't everyone just leave him alone and quit cashing in on him with their BS stories???
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:15 am

Hhmmm .... Won't be getting nothing out of me .... that is for real though.
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Post by YveLoVesMJ on Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:27 am

Savannah wrote:I wonder how many books will be wrote AFTER Michael returns??? Of course, Michaels "so called friends" will have to debunk the first books they wrote...LOL! When Michael comes back to us, he will see who his friends really are...and the way I see it, this Rabbi dude will NOT be one of them! Poor Michael...why can't everyone just leave him alone and quit cashing in on him with their BS stories???

How many? Probably a lot hehe Annie must write one for sure Very Happy

This guys is just another backstabber!
Michael need friends like us, who really love him because he's an amazing person and NOT for his money!
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Post by ilprincipe on Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:31 am

I really hope MJ will sue his "so called" friends in some months.

There are different opinions about the whole Jackson Clan....and I'm also
not the biggest fan of La Toya, Jermaine or Joe...

but I really wonder why they (that's the whole Jackson Clan for me) allow every MJ-best friend-wannabe to release some books full of bs...like this Rabbi or Halperin and so on.

It's known that the Jacksons are greedy...why let they other ppl who didn't know MJ that
much participate on this source of income?
I don't get it!
I think it's not that difficult to take legal action against such persons. They can afford
the best lawyers in that case. I don't see any problems.
So you could force all authors, that in every book which is published, there has to be one statement:
"This book is NOT authorized by MJ and his heirs. Everything what this book contains
is my personal view (view of the writer of this book) about MJ."


I have the feeling that Jermaine is very efficient. Why doesn't he write a book AFTER MJs "death"....in cooperation with La Toya.

Some days ago there was already mentioned that Joe has written a book. "The Jacksons"
it's not exclusive about MJ but about the whole family.
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