Emergency personel opinions of treatment received at Michael's house. (Not connected to this site)

by kdkennedy74 Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:05 pm

http://www.firefighternation.com/forum/topics/michael-jackson-ems-response

Check out this link. It has articles about what happened the day of June 25th but what I found most interesting was the post from other emergency workers at the bottom of the page.

by Lorrie Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:12 pm

Thank you VERY much for posting this link, kdkennedy74.

I'm still reading the extremely interesting and revealing comments, but here's my favorite thus far, courtesy of Dustin J. Millis. *SO* true dat!

"Keeping all the enertainment hate/love crap aside here... lets talk about the actual medical side of this.... I have a fairly good guess as to why the dr. was performing CPR on the bed; that being that the dr. was probably a friend of MJ's who had a medical degree but never did anything except sit around the ranch. He was nervous and not thinking clearly.

ALso... I'm curious why paramedics worked on the pt. for 30 minutes before transporting. You can only do so much in a bedroom. When we catch a full arrest, we get on scene, start CPR and get the pt. to the hospital as quickly as possible. No messing around on scene.

I guess we will probably never know the full details about what happend there."

Tell me about it...

by kdkennedy74 Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:15 pm

You're welcome. I just happened to be doing a search for engine 71 and stumbled across it and thought it was worth sharing. Razz

by Lorrie Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:17 pm

The link was definitely worth sharing, and I appreciate it.

Apparently, the following (and last) commenter had issues with Dustin's assessment of the situation, but I still completely agree with his observation that Murray's "performance" was unbelievably inept.

And it's also looking more and more like we'll never know exactly what the heck happened if Michael is indeed dead.

by SmoothCriminal Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:57 am

Wow thanks for this its definetly worth a look Smile

by Guest Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:02 am

We'll never know the full details... until when/if MJ comes back. Hopefully he'll explain what really happened.

by SmoothCriminal Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:09 am

missdahmer wrote:We'll never know the full details... until when/if MJ comes back. Hopefully he'll explain what really happened.

Yah hopefully until then everything is just speculation

by Guest Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:12 am

SmoothCriminal wrote:
missdahmer wrote:We'll never know the full details... until when/if MJ comes back. Hopefully he'll explain what really happened.

Yah hopefully until then everything is just speculation

Not to be rude or anything. But i dont think Michael owe anyone an explanation. All that matters is that he is safe and happy atlast. He did what he had to do, to make it right for himself. I dont need an explanation. I only need to know, that Michael is safe.

I miss You Mike, and I love you

by SmoothCriminal Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:23 am

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
SmoothCriminal wrote:
missdahmer wrote:We'll never know the full details... until when/if MJ comes back. Hopefully he'll explain what really happened.

Yah hopefully until then everything is just speculation

Not to be rude or anything. But i dont think Michael owe anyone an explanation. All that matters is that he is safe and happy atlast.

I miss You Mike, and I love you

I wouldnt mind if he never came back as long as hes happy and ok
thats all that matters to me Very Happy

god knows he deserves some peace and happiness Smile

by pumpkin Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:35 am

Just wondered why:

"We're on our way. It's less than a mile away from Cedars," the operator said, referring to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center.

Paramedics, however, took Jackson to Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center, where he was later pronounced dead.

Why go to a hospital further away in an emergency situation Neutral

by Guest Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:16 am

The Dispatcher is very BAD at his job. He is NOT allowed to hang up the phone, before the paramedics arrive, at the scene.

Dispatcher: Is he breathing?

Caller: No, sir, his not breathing.

Dispatcher: Is he consious?

Caller: No, sir, his not consious.

WTF, what kinda stupid question is that??

Dispacther: His not breathing, and his not consious?

Caller: No, please sir.

AGAIN DOHHH.. Damn, did he even pay any attention, to what the caller said? I had to laugh at this.

What caught my attention the most in that 911 call, was when someone, suddenly out of nowhere says:" Just a minute now". This is said, after the dispatcher tells the caller to put Michael on the floor. This is about 2:53 minutes in the video.
Why the hell say that?? Like they hadent been waiting long enough already.

It was not the caller, and not the disptacher. But who was it then.?

by Smelly Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:28 am

Dispatcher: Is he breathing?

Caller: No, sir, his not breathing.

Dispatcher: Is he consious?

Caller: No, sir, his not consious.

WTF, what kinda stupid question is that??

Dispacther: His not breathing, and his not consious?

When I heard that part I thought seriously, how can anyone be soooooooooo STUPID!

by CantStopLovingU Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:46 am

MyBelovedMJ wrote:The Dispatcher is very BAD at his job. He is NOT allowed to hang up the phone, before the paramedics arrive, at the scene.

Dispatcher: Is he breathing?

Caller: No, sir, his not breathing.

Dispatcher: Is he consious?

Caller: No, sir, his not consious.

WTF, what kinda stupid question is that??

Dispacther: His not breathing, and his not consious?

Caller: No, please sir.

AGAIN DOHHH.. Damn, did he even pay any attention, to what the caller said? I had to laugh at this.

What caught my attention the most in that 911 call, was when someone, suddenly out of nowhere says:" Just a minute now". This is said, after the dispatcher tells the caller to put Michael on the floor. This is about 2:53 minutes in the video.
Why the hell say that?? Like they hadent been waiting long enough already.

It was not the caller, and not the disptacher. But who was it then.?

Thank you! The 911 Operator sounded like a moron to be honest. If the patient IS NOT BREATHING I think it is pretty safe to say he is NOT CONSIOUS!

Just a minute now? That's weird. Also I do agree with the Dustin comment, it is quite strange that they were only 5 minutes away from the hospital, with a patient in such DIRE STRAIGHTS as this patient was and instead of working on him in the ambulance and getting him to the trauma center STAT - they worked on him for 30 minutes before even leaving the house? What the hell???

The whole thing is suspicious, from the 911 call, to the parametics, to the ambulance ect ... All to weird.

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