Official Dave Dave thread

[Souza81]

Michael on Larry King Live at his own burial. I know it's old news guys, just copying here
The truth was right in front of our eyes…

'DAVE DAVE' on September 3 at Larry King Live:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5Q4syywcw

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Mo and I were convinced within a split second.

Chappie has made some comparisations after our thread:

Last Sunday, after we posted our 'suicide' thread about Mike
appearing in Larry King Live as Dave Dave, Souza and I were approached
by chat member Chappie. Chappie told us he had been playing with the
photos and concluded that Dave Dave indeed is Mike. Because Chappie
never got a conformation email when he registered for this forum he
can't post the pics himself, so I'm doing it for him. Here we go:
I took the pic from the Dave Dave on LKL.
Because Mo and Souza had a problem because some people where saying that Michaels head is not that size.
I don't add anything to the pictures, just copy en paste it and put in place.
I was wondering why Dave Dave on LKL was wearing such big clothes, big tie, and big board.
His head looks smaller as it really is.
Optical Illusion!
Step 1.


Make the neck fit on Michaels neck.

Step 2.


Copy the eyes and make the same size as the neck when it fits paste.
Perfect match!

Step 3.


Copy the rest of the face en paste in place exact size as the eyes.
As you can see it when the face in is place that it is a bit
bigger on the size then Michaels face but that could be easily
explained if it is a Mask.

I also noticed, looking at the Dave Dave LKL that there where some moments that I thought that I had seen that look before.

That was from thriller.
So again I copy and past the eyes and again a perfect match!


A member in de chat gave me a picture of Michael Speeddemon.
And again…..copy past and a perfect match.


I did the same with the eyes from the real? Dave Dave.
And none of the eyes fit in Michaels pictures.


So keep in mind as you look at the pictures I did only copy and past pieces out of pictures.
No work has been done on the pictures to make them look better or different!
Thank you Chappie!
More strange things:

This photo appeared on TMZ right after the burial on September 3rd.
Right from the start the photo appeared photoshopped to us, because
it's almost impossible to get such a clear shot of Mike while Dave Dave
appears so out of focus, even when the camera is set to spot meeting:



Today, after browsing through tons of images, I came across this one:



This photo must have been taken at the same moment, but look at the
person sitting behind Miko – That is NOT Dave Dave! Notice that the
partial face of this man is way less out of focus as Dave Dave's on the
previous picture. The way this person is photographed is the way an
original photo would turn out.

I placed the photos next to each other so that it's easier to compare them:


Now what would be the purpose of shopping Dave Dave into the car
with Miko..? Miko arrived at the burial alone, while he was on Larry
King Live together with Dave Dave. They traveled to the
burial separately, but traveled to the memorial dinner together..?


Greetz,Souza & Mo

[J.J_loves_MJ]

Well Souz, you know my opinion already. Dave Dave from LKL on September 3d was Michael. Dave Dave has other kind of lips, he doesnt have fingers and his eyes are green not brown how Dave Dave from LKL had. Even more, Dave Dave from real life doesnt have eyelashes and the one from LKL had maked up with a strong mascara line. We must not forget the eyeliner. Michael never quit it neither in his disguises ( remember the Mayor from Ghosts video).

The key point: Eyes dont lie. The voice the same.Dont look with the eyes of mind, look with the eyes of heart. That is the most important thing.

[CharlieBarley]

Yes I think Dave Dave on LKL was Michael. I showed my cousin the video of Dave last week on her laptop and my aunt was in the room and could not see the laptop screen, Dave Dave was speaking and my aunt said who is that talking? Is it Michael Jackson? Me and my cousin looked at each other and both said "yes."

The real Dave images look different to the Dave on Larry King his noes and lips are a different shape. His expressions and action are so Mike!

I think that is one reason why he came on LKL and said I am now Dave Dave so that he is not claiming to be Dave Rothenberg. As I said before MJ and Dave have a close relationship, you do anything to help a friend, to take on his disguise I am sure is the least Dave could do for MJ.

[rowdyangel]

Those eyes will never fool me. I said all along that Dave Dave on LKL was Michael.

Michael's eyes are so stunning that I don't think any disguise could hide them.

[EarthAngel90]

Seriously , I though we drop this subject ... I don't think Michael would comeback as Dave Dave - the Burn Victim on LKL like that .... that idea sounds Far-Fetched & Inhumanly Twisted ... but I what do I know ?!?! ....

[iMISSYOUMJ]

WOW ! interesting , so do you mean that Dave Dave is Michael ?

[mommy]

I haven't been following the whole "Dave Dave thing" and by the time I got to it, the previous tread was locked, but... I eventually managed to find the interview on Youtube and what puzzled we was the way he softly, but very confidently said. "Well, you know, Larry.... bla bla bla" and "Well, Larry, the story is that.... bla bla bla" (not bla bla bla in an offencive way, just just remeber the rest of the words ).
I thought of him as an actor who was very confident in the limelight and that's not how I figured him from what you ladies had been writing

[Human_nature]

ok, his voice now, listen here Michael, especially when he says "well..."



Now, LKL interview (Dave)



Now, some images





and eyes again :

[IWSICS]

Call me crazy, but I swear Dave Dave has blue eyes?

And well, see for yourself what colour they are on CNN, with eyeliner...(MJ had eyeliner tattooed on)

I think Dave Dave is Mike on CNN, of course there is a real dave.. but not on CNN.

[CharlieBarley]

Yes I saw a pic somewhere of Dave Rothenberg and his eyes looked a really deep blue/green they were not dark brown.

[Human_nature]

Dave Dave MySpace page here :

http://www.myspace.com/daevdaev

pictures here :

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=467884263&albumId=516683

[SeeingClues]

on the MJ video, at 2:06 is an identical "um" to Dave Dave's at

1:20. They also both use "well" before answering.

[emanviam]

What impresses me is his eyes....

[mj's badest B!-tch]

Hey guys....I went on to Dave Dave's myspace and took a look at some of his pictures, well, this is what popped out at me.
Picture number one is from the Larry King Show....now have a look at the nose on pic number one, notice how much slender the bridge is and look how small the tip of the nose....k and I really want you to pay close attention to the area around the nose and mouth then I want you to compare what you see in pic number one with pic number two.
pic #1.

Ok here is pic number two do you notice anything?......Well I'll help you out. this is the picture I took from his ms page...take a look at his nose and mouth, notice how much wider the bridge of his nose and look at the scar tissue that's connecting the nose to the top of the lip and isn't his face a wee bit chunkier? You decide.

[Guest]

You are good girl .


Oh, how the heck, can Daves eyes change from blue to brown over night?? I would like to know that

[WanaBstartnSthn]

ok, his voice now, listen here Michael, especially when he says "well..."



Now, LKL interview (Dave)




and eyes again :

lmao i couldn't stop listening to this

Judge: "Mr Jackson please just answer the question"
Michael: "I'm just trying to explain to her the situation"
Judge: "just answer the question"
Michael: "I am answering the question"
Judge: "No you're not"
Michael: "....trying"
Judge: "Well, you're failing"..
(Michael snickers)

lol Michael kept trying to get the last word. He's so cute.

[hAZZELY]

Dam..the voice is the same :/ ..the way he says "Michael" ...

[WanaBstartnSthn]

Yea and I also find it a tad strange why is it that Miko and Dave Dave aren't being shown sitting next to each other? what is the reasoning behind it? Notice all other guests of Larry King are often shown sitting right next to each other but the camera keeps going back and forth between Dave Dave to Miko. When Chris Brown and his mother were on LKL, you can see them next to each other, when Jermaine and Larry's wife, Shawn were talkin about that dreadful Vienna tribute, they were shown seated next to each other. Could it be this episode wasn't live? And maybe they taped Dave Dave's parts separate just in case Michael messed up and had to re-do or repeat something? Does anyone see any parts in the interview that look like they may have been chopped up? Like Dave Dave's parts were edited into the rest of the interview. Dave Dave and Miko don't even talk to each other during the interview at all!!!

[MJFOREVER]

Dave dave hmmmmmmmmm what should i think of the guy i dont know:S
In the larry king show he give me the feeling that i could be mj, and he looks different then on the car picture.
But as much i would think it could be mj i think we should respect dave dave and leave him alone

HMMMMM i realy dont know it anymore:S sorry

[IWSICS]

I am so sure Dave is Mike, but I just.... GRRR
I want him back

[hAZZELY]

Forget about Dave Dave being MJ...look at his arm:

[ishealive]

Lol Dave Dave sounds exactly like MJ, his eyes are the same and his voice. His manerisms are the same as MJ's
MJ said he couldn't fool his female fans - well I think we proved that statement to be right...

[anotherpartofme]

I was convinced that Dve Dave on LKL is not MJ! Now I am so confused! I dont know what to think anymore

[CharlieBarley]

Look at the difference in Dave Dave on Leeza, LKL and other image also. It is so confusing! If you compare eyes, nose, mouth they are quite different. But eyes don't lie as already said.

[annieisnotokey]

Can anyone explain to me how MJ managed to get his hands to look like Dave-Dave's?

[IWSICS]

okay, your right.

back to square one!

[IWSICS]

but, thinking about it- do we see his hands in the CNN vid?
but then.. he looks the same in the car as he did on LKL!

OMG, IM GONNA THROW THIS COMP. OUT THE WINDOW!

[PinkLizard]

These pictures are very convincing, I just don't know what to think, what is the next part in this plan? I really am very confused right now. Today I feel very overwhelmed by all of this....................I just wish we could know how it ends

[amber]

Am i seeing clues in lkl dave dave?????? listen to him guys seriously, "as a means to get away" is just 1, watch his expression as he says it there are a few phrases that switches the alert bell on! whether its mj or not listen to whats actually being said and the expression that follows.....please say you see it too

[CharlieBarley]

You can change the form of hands by using prosthetics special FX. I am a make-up artist here is an example of a piece of my own work by using prosthetics, to me creating hands like that is more than possible by using them. Take a look!

[CharlieBarley]

p.s if you research make-up prosthetics special fx you will find more info.

[IWSICS]

Am i seeing clues in lkl dave dave?????? listen to him guys seriously, "as a means to get away" is just 1, watch his expression as he says it there are a few phrases that switches the alert bell on! whether its mj or not listen to whats actually being said and the expression that follows.....please say you see it too

I really do! I know what you mean..
I also feel that at moments in LKL Dave looses himself, as he has to pause- like you do when you have stage fright. (trust me, i am a drama student.. i know how it happens!!) and he has to think about what he needs to say- could it be because he has to word it right, say "my mum" instead of "daves mum" etc. ? i dont know, i really dont!

But, back to him loosing himself- you can't play the role of someone else without the true you shining through- when dave says ''well, you know what larry..'' that got me, and when larry tries to interupt him- he does his little finger pointing thing- just like MJ.

now maybe all this is because dave was almost raised in a way by MJ, therefore took on his traits? and i bet he admired him a hell of a lot- i know i would AND I DO!! i just dont know anymore- i cant let this go, i know a lot of you guys think that mj isnt dave, and i think this too.. only after annie posted the pic with the fingers.. and i dont know how he could pull it off.

but there is something in the back of my head, SCREAMING to me that something isnt right with this! i think it's partly the eyes, i mean.. they were green and now theyre brown,and have eyeliner.

ohhh i just dont know, i wish this could just be sorted.

[IWSICS]

You can change the form of hands by using prosthetics special FX. I am a make-up artist here is an example of a piece of my own work by using prosthetics, to me creating hands like that is more than possible by using them. Take a look!

OMG.

Really? so this could really be done?
That is an amazing picture btw, your really talented
oh wow,

my gut tells me that something is up with DD. mj or not, something is off

[CharlieBarley]

You can change the form of hands by using prosthetics special FX. I am a make-up artist here is an example of a piece of my own work by using prosthetics, to me creating hands like that is more than possible by using them. Take a look!

OMG.

Really? so this could really be done?
That is an amazing picture btw, your really talented
oh wow,

my gut tells me that something is up with DD. mj or not, something is off

Bless you thank you! Yes it is amazing what can be achieved, and Dave Daves hands can be achieved using make-up prosthetics. If you look up prosthetics special FX you will see what can be done. So his hands do not mean we should throw this one out.

[annieisnotokey]

You can change the form of hands by using prosthetics special FX. I am a make-up artist here is an example of a piece of my own work by using prosthetics, to me creating hands like that is more than possible by using them. Take a look!

Sure, prosthetics can add and enlarge...

But how do turn MJ's big hands into Dave Dave's tiny ones?

[neverlandprincess]

The way he says "The Girl is Mine" and "Paul McCartney" and "My mom surpirsed me"-ahhhhh. I dunno I dunno. I was not watching I was listening while on another page. Hmmm. It soes sound like him

[mj's badest B!-tch]

How do you change MJ's hands into Dave Daves? well remember a little movie called Forest Gump?....well how did that that actor who has very developed legs look like an amputee.........movie magic my friends! it "CAN" be done!

[WanaBstartnSthn]

How do you change MJ's hands into Dave Daves? well remember a little movie called Forest Gump?....well how did that that actor who has very developed legs look like an amputee.........movie magic my friends! it "CAN" be done!

I agree! I don't know how they did it but I def think it's possible

[HeavyHearts]

wow i hope he didnt come back as "dave dave" because that is kinda sick

[WanaBstartnSthn]

wow i hope he didnt come back as "dave dave" because that is kinda sick

lol ur post made me laugh. I understand how u feel but at the same time, IF Michael was Dave Dave on LKL, he had a good reason for doing it. This would be the biggest slap in the face to the media who has crapped on Michael Jackson's name for years. Michael gets the last laugh and he also gets to use Dave Dave's image to give everyone the message that he (Michael) is a human being just like everyone else with feelings and thoughts and insecurities.

[SeeingClues]

perhaps someone who is friends with Dave Dave (or "Daev Daev" ) as he is listed on MySpace and ask him if he wore dark contacts on LKL? Not sure if he would answer but it may be interesting if he did...

[CharlieBarley]

How do you change MJ's hands into Dave Daves? well remember a little movie called Forest Gump?....well how did that that actor who has very developed legs look like an amputee.........movie magic my friends! it "CAN" be done!

Yes I thought about Gary Sinise last night, thank you for reminding me! Gary Sinise- the man that played Lieutnenent that lost his legs in forest gump, from 1.47. As I said amazing things can be created with prosthetics and special FX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIcTzFnafPA

I don't know why people think it is sick? Why is it any different to dressing as HAT man? Because he has burns on his skin why do people see him as different? He is not, he is just a person no different to anyone else.

[MJFOREVER]

How do you change MJ's hands into Dave Daves? well remember a little movie called Forest Gump?....well how did that that actor who has very developed legs look like an amputee.........movie magic my friends! it "CAN" be done!

Yes I thought about Gary Sinise last night, thank you for reminding me! Gary Sinise- the man that played Lieutnenent that lost his legs in forest gump, from 1.47. As I said amazing things can be created with prosthetics and special FX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIcTzFnafPA

I don't know why people think it is sick? Why is it any different to dressing as HAT man? Because he has burns on his skin why do people see him as different? He is not, he is just a person no different to anyone else.

hmm YOU ARE SO RIGHT

[StenniZ]

In Forest Gump, Gary Sinise's legs were 'removed' digitally. Not with prosthetics....

In some scenes they used a specially designed wheelchair. Gary would sit on his legs. In other scenes, his legs were erased digitally (by Inudstrial Light and Magic...using computers).

If this was done with Dave Dave on LKL, that would mean, the broadcast wasn't live, so in theory it would be possible, but very hard for us to prove, so....let's move on to something better I'ld suggest. We need solid evidence. As long as there is the slightest doubt, it's not proof. As much as I would like it to be.

http://www.sinisefans.org/gump/gumpfx.html

[mj's badest B!-tch]

^^^Or they could have made some type of hand mitts that would mimic the lost of ones hands ....think about it for a sec in the video you see "Dave Dave" writing something in a book, now I'm not saying it's imposable for some one with this kind of disability to be able to use a pen and write....but......I know for a fact that it would be quite a task to balance a pen with ease without the use of "fingers". trust me on this....I know this lady that comes up to my job eho was in a fire herself and this lady has no fingers on both hands plus when she goes to fix her a plate (I work for Casino Buffet) she has to have someone help her plus when she signs something she has to sandwich the pen between both fingerless palms to be able to write something down.

[whateverhappens]

IF MICHAEL WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HIDE MORE -HE WOULD HAVE USED COLOURED GLASSES -SO THE EYE COLOUR WOULD HAVE FIT TO DAVE
BUT THERE WAS NO NEED TO DO SO
WHO ELSE - APART FROM THE REAL FANS -WOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT-
AND IT IS SO EASY TO DO IT

[CharlieBarley]

Yes I am sure you can close you hand into a fist and put a prosthetic attachment on the end, over the hand, like a glove, so it is an extension, his actual hand was possibly under the jacket. As said I am a makeup artist but not a prosthetic expert, I suppose a way to find out for sure is to contact an expert in this field. But I am 99.9% sure this can be pulled off.

[yaya]

Yes I am sure you can close you hand into a fist and put a prosthetic attachment on the end, over the hand, like a glove, so it is an extension, his actual hand was possibly under the jacket. As said I am a makeup artist but not a prosthetic expert, I suppose a way to find out for sure is to contact an expert in this field. But I am 99.9% sure this can be pulled off.

i agree with you! i think it's very possible for him to have used a prosthetic arm. these days it can easily be done and look very convincing.

[Guest]

Im a little confused about this "DAVE" thing.

[LiberianGirl]

I'm not so sure about this one guys. Could he change his voice that much?? He doesn't sound like Michael to me

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