Re: Official Dave Dave thread

[CharlieBarley]

I'm not so sure about this one guys. Could he change his voice that much?? He doesn't sound like Michael to me

Don't you think? I thought he sounds quite a lot like MJ. Like I said I showed the LKL clip to my cousin last week my aunt was in the room but could not see the laptop screen, she could just hear it, and she said who is that speaking? Is it Michael Jackson? Try it with your relatives, see what they say, it is interesting to know.

[MiaPaparazzi]

I'm not so sure about this one guys. Could he change his voice that much?? He doesn't sound like Michael to me

Don't you think? I thought he sounds quite a lot like MJ. Like I said I showed the LKL clip to my cousin last week my aunt was in the room but could not see the laptop screen, she could just hear it, and she said who is that speaking? Is it Michael Jackson? Try it with your relatives, see what they say, it is interesting to know.

I showed it to my hubby who is undecided about whether MJ is alive or not... and he said DD is MJ right away...

[GirlSaturday]

Ummm I vaguely recall the story of Dave Dave and the tragedy that transpired. I have never seen him before. I have never heard him speak. I have not participated in threads that discussed Dave Dave. Therefore, I had no point of comparison or bias as I just watched this Larry King video segment.

I do not know where Dave Dave was on the date of this interview but I can say that I'm 100% convinced that he wasn't sitting there with Miko Brando and Larry King. That person onstage with them was Michael Jackson.

The mannerisms, body language, inflection of voice tones, talk track, points that he made during the conversation regarding the relationship with Michael....all screamed of Michael Jackson's presence.

I even played a mind game and watched twice again: One time with no sound. The second time with sound but without looking at the person. Michael Jackson... without a doubt.

[Guest]

One thing caught my full attention. Daves eyes.

How can his eyes change from blue to brown over night?
And why is his skin so smooth on the first picture, but not on the other two?

Just asking

[ilprincipe]

One thing caught my full attention. Daves eyes.

How can his eyes change from blue to brown over night?
And why is his skin so smooth on the first picture, but not on the other two?

Just asking

Contact lenses...but I also believe this Dave Dave from LKL was MJ in disguise...
first I thought "no way! The ppl have gone completely crazy!"

Then I watched the vid 2-3x....and I think they are right....

Don't forget TTI = "MJ, like you've never seen him before"

[sasori1290]

ohhh I have watched this 3 Dave Dave videos in Youtube... And I guess it is really Michael!

Duhhh... I the first time I saw his MASKED / PROSTHETIC Face.. I knew He is Michael.. I know what was the color of true skin to a plastic skin... You know.. haha... And the tone of his voice.. It made me.. WOW! Even He is dubbing and changing his own voice... He COULD NOT FOOL me.. Hahaha...

Every breath and Intonations... I know It's him.. Look at the Mannerisms... It is HIm! Look at his NOT LYING EYES... It is him... Whatever Mask He would hide I knew ALL TRUE LOVING FANS OF HIM WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND, HELP and LOVE HIM EVEN MORE. And one of them is me!

What a great Job Michael my Dear!!!
Kisses from me

[Loree]

mmmhh so I was reading some questions for Cassandra
and I saw this one
might be a clue:

-Hey Cassandra, just one more quick question for ya – still waiting
for one of my other 2 comments to be posted, but that’s neither here
nor there .. anyways, my question is this .. on Larry King Live, was
Michael playing the part of Dave Dave?? Inquiring minds at
mj-conspiracy.com want to know! *grins*
If you’re answer is ‘yes’ then I say, “Michael, brilliant disguise my
friend, simply brilliant!” (you almost had us fooled) *big fat cheesy
grin*
[Kaos, Michael says, "You might be on to something." He laughed like
a happy child when he said it, so there is your clue! Cassandra]

[applesaucers]

This wouldn't be the first time MJ disguised himself as a burn victim...

[sasori1290]

This wouldn't be the first time MJ disguised himself as a burn victim...

Oh when was the other disguises?

[applesaucers]

This wouldn't be the first time MJ disguised himself as a burn victim...

Oh when was the other disguises?

Here's a video on a couple of other disguises:

[sasori1290]

This wouldn't be the first time MJ disguised himself as a burn victim...

Oh when was the other disguises?

Here's a video on a couple of other disguises:

Cool!!! He is him!

[andrea_garay2005]

hello,
uh.....these Dave Dave's look so different. I mean the guy in this photo does not look anything like "dave dave" on Larry King, but than again neither of them look like the guy on Leeza Show. It seems to me like MJ was trying to "become" Dave Dave in both shows succeding less at Leeza (the scars are not so visible) and more at LKL.
But why would he show up like this?.... wonder what the real Dave Dave thinks about this.... he should know the truth about Michael....I imagine Michael told him he would show up like him....hm...

[SherLynn224]

Hi all, I was just on Dave Dave's myspace and it said he went to Lucerne Switzerland. Well it just seemed odd because on you tube it says Michael was spotted in Lucerne Switzerland in August plus Elizabeth Taylor has a getaway home in Lucerne Switzerland. Its just something that got me thinking.

[sasori1290]

Hi all, I was just on Dave Dave's myspace and it said he went to Lucerne Switzerland. Well it just seemed odd because on you tube it says Michael was spotted in Lucerne Switzerland in August plus Elizabeth Taylor has a getaway home in Lucerne Switzerland. Its just something that got me thinking.

Cool..

[andrea_garay2005]

yap, I saw the photo on youtube from Lucerne but is hard to say if is MJ or not.......but why would he go out on the street looking like himself?

[SherLynn224]

Thats true Andrea. I dont think he would go out in public himself but I think there will be a lot of look alikes popping up to throw people off. I just thought it was interesting that Dave Dave showed up there.

[yitsy]

Dave Dave is also a student....read "his" myspace. If that is really his.........

[andrea_garay2005]

well, these are indeed interesting things....and Elizabeth Taylor too....hm...makes you think....by the way I think that one on Leeza show is Michael....the more I look at him the more I belive that... the LKL , I'm not so sure ..... but is not the real Dave Dave either

[Human_nature]

Dave Dave is REAL people. It's his real MySpace account.

But what I think, and I think many others here think like me, it's Michael was diguised in Dave Dave at Larry King Live.

Just want you all to know.

His story is very true , they also made a movie about him :

IMDB link (1988)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094952/

here a part of the movie :

[Human_nature]

well, these are indeed interesting things....and Elizabeth Taylor too....hm...makes you think....by the way I think that one on Leeza show is Michael....the more I look at him the more I belive that... the LKL , I'm not so sure ..... but is not the real Dave Dave either

No it's not Michael at Leeza show..sorry

[SherLynn224]

Yes Dave is real nobody said he wasn't. I have read his story. We just know Mike and his disguises.

[andrea_garay2005]

how can you say for sure that is Michael on LKL and not at LEEZa's.....? their eyes are so similar...oh God I'm confused again
Oh, I know Dave Dave is real, no doubt.

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

Yes, Dave Dave is a real person.

[iMISSYOUMJ]

Dave Dave is REAL people. It's his real MySpace account.

But what I think, and I think many others here think like me, it's Michael was diguised in Dave Dave at Larry King Live.

Just want you all to know.

His story is very true , they also made a movie about him :

IMDB link (1988)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094952/

here a part of the movie :

Argh ! I wanted to watch this movie , but it's loading too slow for me !

[Human_nature]

how can you say for sure that is Michael on LKL and not at LEEZa's.....? their eyes are so similar...oh God I'm confused again
Oh, I know Dave Dave is real, no doubt.

On Leeza it's an old interview. It's why I know it's not Michael, no reason for him to do that at that time..

[SeeingClues]

Here is a side by side that you may find of interest. "Dave Dave" next to Michael from the Geraldo 2005 interview...

seeingclues.blogspot.com

[Human_nature]

Here is a side by side that you may find of interest. "Dave Dave" next to Michael from the Geraldo 2005 interview...

seeingclues.blogspot.com

I think it's amazing !

Thanks

[IWSICS]

OMG, SO CONFUSED!

My brain:



Can't decide which way is up! Or left/right! LMAO

[MJFOREVER]

Here is a side by side that you may find of interest. "Dave Dave" next to Michael from the Geraldo 2005 interview...

seeingclues.blogspot.com

I think it's amazing !

Thanks

They look very much alike but i think mj jaw is bigger then when you look at dave but i dont know ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so confused:P

[tyffanny]

OMG!!! Im sure that dave dave is MICHAEL!!!

[Janet77]

[quote = "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"] Yes, Dave Dave is a real person. [/ quote] Hi, nice picture, you. Suit you well? It was a shock to me, when you declared dead, I do not believe and I still could not understand how it is possible that a man with such a great performance and physical fitness, which performs tests on the following day. I thought you'd never do anything that would jeopardize the children and of yourself, and when I read what should lead to your death so I do not believe and I have also remember what you told fans that we never believe what he wrote boulevard, and that people should be convinced about what is. I like your style of music, dancing and how beautifully. Very creative! Would like to know What was your llama? And you still have Bubles monkey and an elephant Gipsy? And you know we have something in common? number 7, I was born on that day and it's my lucky . This is it, we should find the 33 clues CASSANDRA says it would give us fans should help understand what happened.Number connected me again, because it was hidden for my date and I'm very interested .suits their style, but I suppose they made to match the song and storyline, and that Mr. Audigier chose natural materials such as costumes and accessories and the most important details because they highlight the entire resulting efekt. Very much looking forward, I have tickets to. I want to thank you for the beautiful song, I can not imagine that she would sing one another, you are very impressive voice, I like it. Please you send me a picture of a real? If someone responds much. I think you it was you personally, although for me it would be a great honor to write only the king of pop, but especially human king. Me you particularly wonderful human being with heart in the right place and I can not understand how a man can be lonely, but maybe it will be that others have not seen you in the beautiful inner beauty, with which you were narodil.Janet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZMOzP0CfJs
I apologize for English, I teach her, so I do not know if everything is translated.

[Janet77]

https://2img.net/h/oi38.tinypic.com/2j3jjgn.jpg


Tou nice photo, which you properly, I thought that.


Although Michael was a perfectionist in everything, but it seems to me that would be DAVA DAVE.Já'd rather say he is going dressed as a woman, he needs somewhere jít.Wonder what was going on this and this picture, why forward Michael why we read the sign behind him, why he shows his ear? it to 100% on, why have the number of hours of 28? This is the date of making pictures or a movie trailer THIS IS IT? But that would then mean that the man holding the magazine has to be Michael, because how would he know that shooting film, he was dead? Photos 7.5.2009.ale but to date I will never. Answer, what do you think? http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/doctor_10/004.jpg http: / / mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/doctor_10/005.jpg

[futurelaker88]

a little photoshop magic..what do you think? lol pretty freaky.

[miss j]

i watched dave dave on LKL too and i never heard of him but he seemed so like michael, the voice, the expressions, the way he spoke everything! it's just i think it was too scary to look at.

[queenpanther55]

DISTANCE OF THE EYES

[ILuvUMoreMJ]

Can someone please explain to me why on earth you guys think MJ would want to impersonate Dave Dave? He is a real person, there are videos of him with Michael as a little boy. Why would MJ disguise himself like that...for what purpose? I respect your right to believe what you want, but I personally find it insulting that anyone would think Michael would make himself up to look like a burn victim. Dave Dave's story is very tragic...I just cannot believe MJ would make light of that regardless of what he wants the media to think.

[Guest]

Can someone please explain to me why on earth you guys think MJ would want to impersonate Dave Dave? He is a real person, there are videos of him with Michael as a little boy. Why would MJ disguise himself like that...for what purpose? I respect your right to believe what you want, but I personally find it insulting that anyone would think Michael would make himself up to look like a burn victim. Dave Dave's story is very tragic...I just cannot believe MJ would make light of that regardless of what he wants the media to think.

I agree

[MJLive2010]

Hmmm......... I Know Dave Dave looks very strange and its very supicus that he sits next to Elizabeth Tylor . But what about this picture from his my space his eyes are dark here :

https://i.servimg.com/u/f83/14/43/15/67/l_db9112.jpg

[annieisnotokey]

Can someone please explain to me why on earth you guys think MJ would want to impersonate Dave Dave? He is a real person, there are videos of him with Michael as a little boy. Why would MJ disguise himself like that...for what purpose? I respect your right to believe what you want, but I personally find it insulting that anyone would think Michael would make himself up to look like a burn victim. Dave Dave's story is very tragic...I just cannot believe MJ would make light of that regardless of what he wants the media to think.

I agree

So do I.

[dunno_it]

me three

[yitsy]

Me four.

[JacksonFanDotCom]

Karen Faye Kissinger - Good morning everyone.
I have to close the door to any more newbies. I want to welcome our new friends.
I will share my opinions and I welcome your opinions. Just no "alive hoax" people please.
No room for total fabrications.



I found this thread and out of all the information I have seen on the internet, this
was the most convincing evidence I have seen. Other fans think I disrespectful and crazy,
people I talk to think I'm crazy, but I know you most of the people here know it is true.

When I tried to Tell Karen Faye of my thread, and sent a message she said he was dead.
Then I sent an email back saying, so I'm completely off base with this, there was no reply.

Then I posted on her Facebook page to some fans who said they were said they were sad
and got a lot of feedback, like why would he do that to his fans and family. etc. Called me LOCO

Then she posted on her facebook page later that that she spent 8 hours with his body.
Never said dead body. an that there was no room for "alive hoax" people
Then that comment was deleted and she then changed her status to what I started with.

I just want everyone to be happy knowing MJ is alive. Why would she say that if she was
so close to him. If anyone knows, she knows for sure. BTW she is his Make Up artists.

I don't want to disrespect her. I just want to know the truth? Why would she lie?

Beucase if he really is dead, that sucks, and I will just deal with it.

But after seeing the stuff here, the voice, the pics, the eyes, etc, how can you say its not him?

I even put a thread on my MJFDC page. No replies. strange, people just don't believe it.
http://community.michaeljacksonfan.com/showthread.php?t=2693

How could they not know it is MJ after watching Dave Dave?
I knew 5 seconds after dave dave started talking.

any insight why Karen is denying all this?

And what is next? Is he going to stay dead? Is he going to come back?

What is really going on?

MJFDC

P.S. can someone join my site and let me know if it is working?

[Human_nature]

So Karen told she spent 8 hrs with his body....
Make-up artist .....

Well...for me, it can be for a disguise.

I really like Karen and if she don't tell the truth, she's just like the other people in this hoax no?
I mean, she just can't tell "oh yes, he's alive, don't worry"

[JacksonFanDotCom]

True. I did think that as well. Uggg!

So whats next? Will he come back, or is THIS IT?

[GirlSaturday]

Okay I will take the bait and reply because I believe 200% that the Dave Dave featured on Larry King is Michael Jackson.

I have one request. Please keep as much of an open mind with my reply as I did with your question.

This hoax is an exercise of the mind. We are being played like a fiddle. If we learn but one lesson in the end it will be that the obvious can be made less obvious and the impossible can be made possible.

Prior to the Larry King video clip...I had never seen Dave Dave. I had never heard his voice. I slightly recalled his story. No bias. No pre-conceived notion of what to expect. I have...seen MJ, heard him speak, watched his mannerisms, studied his method of getting a point across and witnessed his body language. When watching Michael, I have learned what to expect from him. It is MJ... or not... after watching HIM.

I have now watched the video once. I have listened to the video a dozen or so times. Big difference once I was able to block out the image of Dave Dave and listen carefully to the words and delivery of the words.
Michael has a certain way of talking. Ignore the voice. I am referring to his choice of words. When Mj gets on a subject he expresses himself a certain way. Let's look at the subject of children. Michael talks about children in a very soft, flowery, poetic, overly emotional and borderline sappy way. He uses words that describe feelings and his loving heart-felt emotions.

Throughout the Dave Dave interview Michael/Dave Dave was describing how he felt. He used his words to tell what MJ must have meant to Dave Dave because he honestly felt that he left that level of an impact on Dave Dave by befriending him.

Let's take a look at some statements that Michael/Dave Dave shared during the interview:


When asked why he went from Dave Rothenberg to Dave Dave he stated that he wanted to liberate himself from his father's name and his father's legacy..he wanted to free himself.

Joseph Jackson has a legacy. Michael Jackson has spent a lifetime wanting to free himself from that evil legacy of abuse and harsh treatment.

Michael/Dave Dave said that MJ took him into his life and that it was rare for him to do.

Since when has it been rare for MJ to take injured or sick children into his life???? That subconscious statement was meant to throw viewers off and not repeat past interview response mistakes where he dug a hole by mentioning his constant habit of welcoming childen into his life. We all know what happens when MJ mentions spending time with kids...another crazy allegation pops up.

Michael/Dave Dave mentioned their first meeting and when they embraced. It was described as an embrace that was so meaningful that it "Never let me go".

That is straight out of the dictionary of Michael Jackson talk...poetic and filled with euphemism.

Michael/Dave Dave stated that he was an admirer...not really a fan but he "loved" Mj's music.

How can you love someones music and not be a fan of the music-maker? Michael wanted to create a distance from himself and his current stunt of impersonating Dave Dave with this statement. He slipped up by mentioning that Dave Dave was a fan of HIS music.

Michael/Dave Dave marveled at the fact that Paul Mccartney records were around inside of the arcade. Note how he specifically mentioned "The Girl is Mine" .

Ummm that was the duet between MJ and Paul. Why mention that song if soooo many Paul records were around as he stated.

Michael/Dave Dave said that Pole Position was his favorite video game within the arcade at Neverland.

The game was introduced in 1982 and is considered a pioneer and a classic. It is most noteworthy for revolutionizing 3D graphics within the video game industry. MJ is a huge fan of cutting edge technology and of 3D graphics.

When Michael/Dave discussed the embrace again he referred to it as one that lasted throughout their entire friendship.

Again...more Mj poetic and flowery talk.

Michael/Dave Dave was asked to tell viewers about Michael. He used terms such as human being...stigmatized by the media..he never hurt a soul.

Michael was redeeming himself and repeating his own words of how he is mislabled by others.

Michael/Dave Dave ended the interview by describing Michael as the father that he never had.

Michael Jackson saw himself as the father to all of the world's wounded children. It is not unlikely that he thought that he had now taken on the role as the good father to Dave Dave and to be able to replace the evil father who harmed him.

I live by an open rule . I try to keep an open mind about most things in life. My viewpoint is not THE viewpoint however is one viewpoint to consider. Dave Dave is a real person who has undoubtedly suffered a horrible crime and injustice that no one should have to face. If Michael Jackson impersonated Dave Dave it was not done with ridice or malice but perhaps to send a message. Hell he may have even consulted with Dave Dave ...shared his plans and possibly received Dave Dave's permission/blessing to proceed.

This hoax is not about feelings or emotions. It is about strategy...winning strategy. I find that I think much more clearly about clues when emotions and feelings are left at the door. Michael Jackson is a master strategist. Few strategies involve emotions but they do involve clear and focused planning.

"Michael would never do this" ..."Michael would not do that" ..."Michael feels this way"...Michael feels that way" Sound familiar? Many people start statements with what they honestly believe about Michael Jackson. The majority of those statements are based more on their feelings about Michael and less on what strategy that Michael has in play within the game.

I invite members to take a few more listens to the interview. Do not look at Dave Dave. Simply listen ...again and again to the interview itself. Some may change their mind. Some may not. I did not take a long time to come to my conclusion. Additional listens simply reinforced my belief that Dave Dave on Larry King was Michael. In my opinion, it simply screamed....Michael Jackson! Hell... he did everything except jump up... grab himself ...and moonwalk during that interview.

This has been fun. I enjoy this forum very much.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5Q4syywcw

Can someone please explain to me why on earth you guys think MJ would want to impersonate Dave Dave? He is a real person, there are videos of him with Michael as a little boy. Why would MJ disguise himself like that...for what purpose? I respect your right to believe what you want, but I personally find it insulting that anyone would think Michael would make himself up to look like a burn victim. Dave Dave's story is very tragic...I just cannot believe MJ would make light of that regardless of what he wants the media to think.

[MjJProduction]

ok... this is a new picture of dave dave.. put on my space yesterday...



he is NOT the dave dave of the larry king show!

DAVE DAVE of the larry king is MICHAEL MICHAEL!!

[ILuvUMoreMJ]

Okay I will take the bait and reply because I believe 200% that the Dave Dave featured on Larry King is Michael Jackson.

I have one request. Please keep as much of an open mind with my reply as I did with your question.

Can someone please explain to me why on earth you guys think MJ would want to impersonate Dave Dave? He is a real person, there are videos of him with Michael as a little boy. Why would MJ disguise himself like that...for what purpose? I respect your right to believe what you want, but I personally find it insulting that anyone would think Michael would make himself up to look like a burn victim. Dave Dave's story is very tragic...I just cannot believe MJ would make light of that regardless of what he wants the media to think.

I wasn't baiting you. I honestly just didn't understand where the heck this idea was coming from because it seems pretty ludicrous to me. Thank you for your explanation though, I really do appreciate it.

[Janet77]

a little photoshop magic..what do you think? lol pretty freaky.

Thanks for . Regards Deva Deva so I started the video, where he was on the show Larry King and I must say that when pronounced the word mother and says exactly the same as MJ, and his voice is also.The same facial expressions, gestures . It is 100% Michael!! Michael told me that the fans know him well enough to know what is schopen.Taj this he succeeded Ted, and why not? Whole years of his destroying the media why he did he could not make fun of them? to come out one day that MJ is still alive and those what he especially hurt so I will kiss. At this fotkuze 7/5/2009 Michael as there is with the magazine and the clock that instead of number 3 to number 28, it means that it is a trailer for THIS IS IT, or is the date photo shoot? which in this case either 28.6.2009 or 28.9 2009.A why we have the next picture with MJ read the sign behind his back, where it says that the door is not. Me there any explanation?

[Janet77]

a little photoshop magic..what do you think? lol pretty freaky.

I do not know if that fits here, and I doubt that Michael Jackson had a chance to read the verses here, which I passed on it, but I thought what if they happen to have this opportunity, it might comfort him my verses.

For Michael Jackson -King of human hearts


Helpless and hopeless, this is how I feel inside
Although I am far away, my mind is just you
I lost what I was happy
You feel a great void, please come back
I need you I know I have distant
But you're very close to me That hurts
Sometimes it is difficult to breathe and where you are, where you're the king of pop?
Uuncover its secrets and I went through the whole world
Because I'd like to give a beautiful flower
Please forget about it on the corrupt world do not
Know how I miss you
I miss everyone Is this all day just dream?
Open your eyes wide open and come out that life
Is worth your voice and the smile that's what
I miss I do not want to cry but be happy
You coming here for the beautiful flower?
I know you like black orchid
If You are my flower
You will not feel like the lost world
I pray and cry, you find a way
Where you are, where you're the king of pop? Near?
Waiting for you, otherwise life would be hard without you
I give you the beautiful flowers and believe that the It will be a more beautiful world.




I love you Janet

[RyanJ]

ok... this is a new picture of dave dave.. put on my space yesterday...



he is NOT the dave dave of the larry king show!

DAVE DAVE of the larry king is MICHAEL MICHAEL!!

Actually, I do think this is Dave Dave of LKL.

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