Jokes Calm China (JCC) appeared on MJHD again

Pammy wrote:i dont trust MJHD anymore....since they once locked the site and opened it again ---its not the same anymore! Ppl are rude over there and i dont like that .... btw while we are on it...

Remember when the rumor came up that the site been created 2 days before Michaels death? and when we talked about it the page got closed?? i just noticed that i found a screenshot of it that somebody made back then

https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img198/4697/mjhdjun23.jpg[/quote]

OMG! And what the heck was Amy's explanation for that? She just happened to purchase that domain name on the 23rd of June?? Do the forum members know that?

ishealive wrote:@GirlSaturday MJHD is really irritating me, it's a very diff site since it re-opened.
I don't know if admin knows something or not but they are not allowing freedom of speech, i'd like to know their motive.
If only JCC and all the other clue givers would come over here.

GirlSaturday wrote:WOW! I am now convinced that it was a blessing that I registered for MJHD...could not log in to post and ...ultimately stumbled upon this site. Things do indeed happen for a reason. Believe that!

ishealive wrote:@GirlSaturday MJHD is really irritating me, it's a very diff site since it re-opened.
I don't know if admin knows something or not but they are not allowing freedom of speech, i'd like to know their motive.
If only JCC and all the other clue givers would come over here.

Bidoska wrote:ok here's the deal. yesterday there were 3 JCC , 1 jokecalmschina and 1 peterpan7.
It was hell.
There are too many people pretending they are JOke ok?
We have to slow down a bit

Pammy wrote:

GirlSaturday wrote:WOW! I am now convinced that it was a blessing that I registered for MJHD...could not log in to post and ...ultimately stumbled upon this site. Things do indeed happen for a reason. Believe that!

ishealive wrote:@GirlSaturday MJHD is really irritating me, it's a very diff site since it re-opened.
I don't know if admin knows something or not but they are not allowing freedom of speech, i'd like to know their motive.
If only JCC and all the other clue givers would come over here.

what do u mean? wud u please explain that for me ...sometimes im a bit stupid lol

and i dont think it was a computer error!!!

illusionist wrote:jokecalmschina is the real deal. the others are fake.

emanviam wrote:I wish he can appear here and give us some clues that we can listen. I remember that he said a lot of things that no one believed and all of them were close to the truth.

This is the transcript of his last message to us....credit goes to MJHD.

credits to-http://michaeljacksonhoax.lefora.com/2009/08/24/jcc-clueonce-again/page3/
We had 3 visitor’s today. Rae email me and I will send the screenshots.
JCC: October 30th. Rebirth.
JCC2: Liberian Girl.
JCC2: of course its all a lie. for michael didn’t die. JCC is he..and JCC is me. Oct. 30th. I will COME BACK. This wasn’t it for me.. but for the meDIA.
Jokecalmschina: 7 stars and a palm tree.
Jokecalmschina: of course (this was in response to Bidoska’s “I’d like to ask you a question may I?”)
Jokecalmschina: just think of lovely things and your heart will fly on wings.
Jokecalmschina: I love you and miss you all dearly.
Jokecalmschina: thank god for the internet.
Jokecalmschina: **heart icon**
Jokecalmschina: goodbye everyone

What do you think?

Kisses,

EmanViam.

ishealive wrote:@CantStopLovingU why do you think MJHD admin don't want us to find out what happened to MJ?
If he does come back then it's tough s**t for them 'cos the whole world will know.

Pammy wrote:i dont trust MJHD anymore....since they once locked the site and opened it again ---its not the same anymore! Ppl are rude over there and i dont like that .... btw while we are on it...

Remember when the rumor came up that the site been created 2 days before Michaels death? and when we talked about it the page got closed?? i just noticed that i found a screenshot of it that somebody made back then

https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img198/4697/mjhdjun23.jpg[/quote]

OMG! And what the heck was Amy's explanation for that? She just happened to purchase that domain name on the 23rd of June?? Do the forum members know that?

CantStopLovingU wrote:

ishealive wrote:@CantStopLovingU why do you think MJHD admin don't want us to find out what happened to MJ?
If he does come back then it's tough s**t for them 'cos the whole world will know.

It just seems like every single person (and there werent too many remember) that had some type of inside information - Ella, JCC - Admin Amy has banned.

When JCC or someone who claimed was JCC made another appearance, she instantly deleted the thread and said that SHE FELT We had been through enough stress already so she made the decision to delete anything about JCC.

I mean really, what kind of reason is that? Isnt it up to us who we chose to believe or discuss?

And someone else made a really good point. It is all of us, the members of the hoax sites that make them what they are- very popular. Alot of blood, sweat, research and tears have gone into the posts - by the members, not Amy.

OK so it is her site, but we obviously have other wonderful places to go, like this sight (Thanks Rachel!)

Who is she to act like she knows whats best for us - and delete threads just because she thinks we cant handle it?

BillieJean wrote:I've been going back and forth between forums (mostly just listening, not so much posting---I'm shy!)

But I'm not going back to MJHD. EVER. Too much hatred and viciousness. And, sorry to say, but some of the people really seem to have serious mental illnesses. I'm not saying that in a mean way, or trying to make fun...I honestly worry about their state of mind.

MJHD was a really lovely place when it first started...so positive and uplifting and such a sense of community and shared love for Michael Jackson's genius...Much like this place is now! Let's keep it that way! You guys are awesome!

GirlSaturday wrote:WOW! I am now convinced that it was a blessing that I registered for MJHD...could not log in to post and ...ultimately stumbled upon this site. Things do indeed happen for a reason. Believe that!

ishealive wrote:@GirlSaturday MJHD is really irritating me, it's a very diff site since it re-opened.
I don't know if admin knows something or not but they are not allowing freedom of speech, i'd like to know their motive.
If only JCC and all the other clue givers would come over here.

BillieJean wrote:I've been going back and forth between forums (mostly just listening, not so much posting---I'm shy!)

But I'm not going back to MJHD. EVER. Too much hatred and viciousness. And, sorry to say, but some of the people really seem to have serious mental illnesses. I'm not saying that in a mean way, or trying to make fun...I honestly worry about their state of mind.

MJHD was a really lovely place when it first started...so positive and uplifting and such a sense of community and shared love for Michael Jackson's genius...Much like this place is now! Let's keep it that way! You guys are awesome!

just_friend wrote:Hi, Angie!!! This is SO great you are with us!!! Wellcome!!!!

Rach wrote:Welcome to the forum Angie!

It's great to have you with us

Angie777 wrote:

Rach wrote:Welcome to the forum Angie!

It's great to have you with us

thank to u, too. And thats exactly what im talking about, ur just as friendly as the mjhd majesties ignorant.

Grace wrote:

Pammy wrote:i dont trust MJHD anymore....since they once locked the site and opened it again ---its not the same anymore! Ppl are rude over there and i dont like that .... btw while we are on it...

Remember when the rumor came up that the site been created 2 days before Michaels death? and when we talked about it the page got closed?? i just noticed that i found a screenshot of it that somebody made back then

https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img198/4697/mjhdjun23.jpg[/quote]

OMG! And what the heck was Amy's explanation for that? She just happened to purchase that domain name on the 23rd of June?? Do the forum members know that?

Well, I did refrain from following the rumours whether the MJHD site was fishy.
I have the screenshot on pdf on google cache (kind of temporary google archive).
However, the web is not accurate and I do not trust google too far.

I did not follow this up for the following reasons: 1) the site was first published on June 26 with layout and content. 2) the site was modified as to layout many times and started really small as a private project. 3) a professional set-up would have been perfect right from the start as a web design agency would have been doing strategy, layout and content to be ready for the start all together. 4) Amy was to be found in other web appearances at that time. 5) Amy did some "slips" out of not being thoughtful in the beginning and because she really did not expect the impact she might face: she did register the site with her name and address in Australia first. She changed her data many many times afterwards in order to hide and get stalkers off of her tracks. She had a lot of trouble in doing so and there was one person distributing her personal data in another blog (after being banned) in order to make her stalkable for the world.
This was the moment the forum was closed and Amy did seek lawyer's advice - and she did right. I had proposed to her to get some official features around the project to stop the "suspicious" minds and get protection from this which she did not put into action.

More and more people signed up for the forum - most likely since it represented the key resources of news on MJ as other resources would stop reporting on MJ. Now it has become a mess again and this was predictable and I am really sorry that Amy did not follow the protections many proposed. This chaos situation as such tells me more than anything else that this forum is private and not run by anybody in the plot. They are desperately trying to keep it running and get back to normal.

So Amy is not in the picture for me at all.
You may argue over her rules and actions but it's definitely her house where we are guests in and rude and stiring up people should be banned immediately. There was many times a language and a behaviour to be noticed where I would have closed the forum as such in her place. I think she is really patient and letting a long way go. Given her age, Amy is wise in many matters. Souza, tell me if I am wrong please.

Btw, be prepared to face parts of the mess here. We are only 10% of them but more and more people are hanging out here anyway. We will need more mods for sure - and a strategy to handle trolls and trouble seekers. Rachel and Souza, discuss it please. If we can be of help, let us know.

mjfan wrote:

Angie777 wrote:

Rach wrote:Welcome to the forum Angie!

It's great to have you with us

thank to u, too. And thats exactly what im talking about, ur just as friendly as the mjhd majesties ignorant.

Before you badmouth the mods of MJHD (I have resigned by the way), you might want to take a look at what was really going on behind the scenes:

http://mjtruth.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/the-truth-about-mjhd/

Rach wrote:@ mjfan

I appreciate where you are coming from 100%!

I know how hard it is to MOD a forum and this one isn't half as big as MJHD. I think you guys did a great job but the blame has to fall somewhere and the MODs are the first port of call. Believe me, I know!

I would respectfully ask all members to keep the bad mouthing of MJHD to a minimum because we are mature adults who are better than that!

aamj07 wrote:Wow...I haven't been to MJHD in a long time, I knew things got crazy over there & that's why I stayed away but I had no idea all that was going on!! I won't bad mouth the site or anyone over there but it sounds like there are a lot of issues and it makes me even more appreciative of what we have on this forum. I really hope that if MJHD self destructs (which seems inevitable at this point) that the trolls & haters don't make their way over here. The mood on this site is so much more friendly & positive, we don't need them bringing us down. We are FAMILY over here, and I mean that!

mjfan wrote:The difference is, over here trolls and haters would be immediately IP banned.

Rach wrote:

mjfan wrote:The difference is, over here trolls and haters would be immediately IP banned.

That is very true. Why doesn't Amy ban them if they causing so much trouble? I read your blog and I am guessing that what you stated on there is the answer to my question!

Rach wrote:

mjfan wrote:The difference is, over here trolls and haters would be immediately IP banned.

That is very true. Why doesn't Amy ban them if they causing so much trouble? I read your blog and I am guessing that what you stated on there is the answer to my question!

ishealive wrote:@mjfan, I knew things had gotten bad over there that's why i'm here all the time but I didn't know admin/amy was so twisted. Thanks for filling me in.
This site is far nicer and more welcoming and that's thanks to the Moderators, Rachel & Souza.

I hope you won't get too bogged down by Amy's manipulative behaviour, stay over here with us. I always loved your posts when I first signed onto MJHD all those months ago...

mjfan wrote:

ishealive wrote:@mjfan, I knew things had gotten bad over there that's why i'm here all the time but I didn't know admin/amy was so twisted. Thanks for filling me in.
This site is far nicer and more welcoming and that's thanks to the Moderators, Rachel & Souza.

I hope you won't get too bogged down by Amy's manipulative behaviour, stay over here with us. I always loved your posts when I first signed onto MJHD all those months ago...

haha thanks! Someone made a post on the MJHD forum linking my blog post and it started a big drama over there. Souz posted that she'd delete the post but she can't cause she's been fired lol. And well, since I'm not a mod, I can't delete it either. Oh well.