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Post by MJsSuperflyPYT on Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:36 pm

http://derekclontz.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/michael-jackson-sends-message-to-fans-hints-hell-come-out-of-hiding-next-june/

Hey, guys!

I was browsing the 'net when I came across this. Not sure how reliable and trustworthy this site is but found it interesting considering the tribute is being pushed back for 2010, possibly June.

Would like to know your thoughts?

Not sure what to think myself...
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Post by MiaPaparazzi on Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:51 pm

Wow interesting. OK I googled her name but not much came up... can we all kind of see where the connection is with him and this Cassandra Gretchen-Sims?
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Post by marsheliamorgan on Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:53 pm

OMG,i hope this is true,what would she have to gain by lying?is there anyway to research her name and see if she was openly connected to michael in anyway?this does make sense with coming back next june,isnt that according to what he had listed in the so-called journal that was found?but,if this is the truth and the case,then how are the rest of his family going to continue to pull off the hairbrained money schemes and such?
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Post by yaya on Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:53 pm

i googled her too and didn't find much, except for the link to this article. not saying she doesn't exist. the article is interesting but i'm definitely taking it with a grain of salt.
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Post by marsheliamorgan on Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:54 pm

are u thinking they were possibly lovers at one time or now?
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Post by yaya on Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:56 pm

IF she is real and an actual friend of michael's and what she says is true, we probably can't find any info on her cuz she's not a famous person. kinda like if you googled my name, you wouldn't find much.
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Post by Human_nature on Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:56 pm

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by MiaPaparazzi on Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:56 pm

I am not sure about the article either, but it is another name to add to our list of possible connections...

*LIGHTBULB MOMENT*

Hey maybe we should make a thread about just that so we have everything compiled in one place for easy reference? IDK if this has been mentioned before, if it has sorry! Just popped into my head. I don't know about ya'll but I have so much info I need to find a way to sort it all... I love you
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Post by marsheliamorgan on Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:59 pm

wait a minute the article says"i love my fans" and tell them all the love they send to me,i send it right back, wouldnt he have said, i love them more?or most? i dont know just a thought
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Post by marsheliamorgan on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:01 pm

AND if he is resting and recouping,why would he have someone announce it RIGHT NOW,when they press would be scouring (as per usual)until they do find him and make him go thru all this misery again?he cant be trying to get well,if he has to be looking over his shoulder being afraid of being found or found out,i dontknow this one is tough
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Post by neverlandprincess on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:06 pm

hmmmm...I have a problem with people who "are or were close to Michael" that no ones ever heard of that come out to feed on frenzies-seriosly if Michael is in hiding-and everything fro memorials to burials to tribute books are being played out..would he be sending messages-VERBAL ONES? And yeah he was so private and gentlemanly about sex I dont think he would really appreciate the comments on their love life-no matter how wonderful they are-and also like marsheliamorgan noted "I love you more" "I love you most" "From the bottom of my heart...you have to know that"...those were always his words. Love the thought but IMO it is too soon...for sending messages about next year.
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Post by mjssoulmate on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:09 pm

Some friend! Telling the world that he is alive and in contact with her. BS.
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Post by Harleyblonde on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:11 pm

My goodness, I smell BS!! I think people are cashing in on his death and trying to appear "special" to such as this silly woman. Why would they go to all the trouble to host a really expensive memorial, funeral, hire ambulances etc or whatever they had to do in this hoax for MJ to phone this woman and give a message that he is ok. Is she close to Jermaine and Latoya??? they are all idiots who think we dont have a brain. Hiding out in Russia, Eastern Europe etc where he will not be seen??? He is world famous and will be known in outer mongolia. In the small village in Kenya where I lived no one had heard of Elvis or Marilyn Monroe but they all knew who Michael was.
Is really sick for someone to get the hope up of his many bereaved fans, in fact she is more to be pitied and am glad I do not have a mind like that. This cannot be true at all. SICK & PATHETIC.
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:12 pm

Well , She isn't a Real Friend if she is talking out to a Tabloid Website !!!! Seriously , I was fooled for a moment ... but reliazed that pretty quickly - NOT A REAL FRIEND.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:14 pm

Harleyblonde wrote:My goodness, I smell BS!! I think people are cashing in on his death and trying to appear "special" to such as this silly woman. Why would they go to all the trouble to host a really expensive memorial, funeral, hire ambulances etc or whatever they had to do in this hoax for MJ to phone this woman and give a message that he is ok. Is she close to Jermaine and Latoya??? they are all idiots who think we dont have a brain. Hiding out in Russia, Eastern Europe etc where he will not be seen??? He is world famous and will be known in outer mongolia. In the small village in Kenya where I lived no one had heard of Elvis or Marilyn Monroe but they all knew who Michael was.
Is really sick for someone to get the hope up of his many bereaved fans, in fact she is more to be pitied and am glad I do not have a mind like that. This cannot be true at all. SICK & PATHETIC.

wow dang girl-seen hiding in Europe one to many times huh? But I thought the same-like where could MJ hide? Especially in this day and time-not only that he ALREADY has live in Europe when he was just chillin.
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Post by darkfeather on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:15 pm

I got the impression it is made up, not saying I don't believe he will come bac it's just the article. It is stating the drug abuse again which I don't buy 'cause it's from the media, although I know Michael admitted it. But I think he did that because it was part of his plan.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:16 pm

darkfeather wrote:I got the impression it is made up, not saying I don't believe he will come bac it's just the article. It is stating the drug abuse again which I don't buy 'cause it's from the media, although I know Michael admitted it. But I think he did that because it was part of his plan.
What Michael admitted was years ago though.
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:20 pm

EarthAngel, I too was fooled very briefly by this. Isn't funny how this article comes around the same day the announcement comes that the tribute is postponed til June 2010? Obviously, they kno we speculate about MJ possibly showin up at the tribute so of course the article states MJ plans to come back in when? June 2010. Gimme a break.
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Post by Harleyblonde on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:21 pm

Yes we are too clever on this site to believe such as this- I really hope she is reading our messages. If she thinks she is believed what will she be saying next I wonder??? The mind boggles but we have to prepare ourselves for saddo's such as her as many more will be crawling out of the gutter. I think Michaels Mother is a good person-does she want to read stuff like that?
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Post by phyli on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:56 pm

Come on, I seriously doubt MJ would use someone other than 1) himself, 2) his mother, 3) another family member - most likely Janet, or 4) his lawyer to deliver a message to anyone!
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Post by emanviam on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:58 pm

Sorry. I don't believe this...
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Post by justafan on Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:37 pm

marsheliamorgan wrote:OMG,i hope this is true,what would she have to gain by lying?
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your attention (and so she succeeded)
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Post by dunno_it on Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:44 pm

It's not a reliable site at all. Derek Clontz is notorious for writing about BS, like UFO. Besides he quotes the some metaphysician as Weekly World News, the most shitty tabloid in the world. Both sites, DerekClonz and Weekly World News might be cooperating. Do not believe in that. DerekClonz also suggests MJ might be frozen like Walt Disney! "He''ll be back!  That's a guarantee!" Suspect And in his previous articles he said that a MJ hoax diary had been found, according to which MJ was soppoused to come back during Christmas 2009. It's 2010 now? wow. he feeds gullible people with what they wanna hear...


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Post by marsheliamorgan on Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:52 pm

your attention (and so she succeeded)
yea,good point and i figured that out as you can tell by my later posts,just got too excited too quickly,it happens
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Post by MJfan777 on Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:54 pm

blargh, again this site "He''ll be back!  That's a guarantee!" Icon_rolleyes
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Post by Pammy on Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:21 pm

Well IF this is true...(what i doubt) then i´d like to see a REAL sign from Michael .... not via this site Rolling Eyes
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Post by MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs on Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:34 pm

I'm with you, Human_nature...

Human_nature wrote:It's very hard to believe, sorry.... "He''ll be back!  That's a guarantee!" Icon_scratch
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Post by nlb on Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:42 pm

"He told me to make a statement, and
he specifically told me to make the statement to Your World Report
because ‘they are the only ones who have gotten the story right from
the beginning. They care about me and they care about the truth.’

This
right here makes no sense IMO in terms of the hoax. LAPD, the DEA, and
other agencies are investigating a death, well a homicide. Why oh why
would Michael tell anyone to take this to the press? Doesn't he think
some invesigators might see this?

Looks to me that the Your World Report is looking for a way to sell more papers and cash in on the name Michael Jackson.
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Post by mjthelegendlives on Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:51 pm

marsheliamorgan wrote:AND if he is resting and recouping,why would he have someone announce it RIGHT NOW,when they press would be scouring (as per usual)until they do find him and make him go thru all this misery again?he cant be trying to get well,if he has to be looking over his shoulder being afraid of being found or found out,i dontknow this one is tough

Because everyone thinks we're insane and only the believers will look at this with an open mind...no one will believe her or us either.
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Post by Sweet1 on Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:56 pm

Human_nature wrote:It's very hard to believe, sorry.... "He''ll be back!  That's a guarantee!" Icon_scratch


I am in agreement on this one. Keep the Faith!
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Post by DreamsComeTrue on Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:36 pm

I don't think Michael would hide in East Europe...He will be very close to his kids...
IMO his in Las Vegas...where his children can visit him easily!

By the way, I have derek clontz as friend on my space and one I talked to him...he really believes Michael is alive...but that's no excuse to come out with this stories!

If Michael is somewhere, he definetly is in USA!
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Post by MJsSuperflyPYT on Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:38 pm

Thanks for the input you guys. I haven't been here long but, I knew if anybody could sort this out it was ya'll...I guess I got a little excited when I seen this "He''ll be back!  That's a guarantee!" Icon_redface .

I guess I should pay attention to my signature more often "He''ll be back!  That's a guarantee!" Icon_geek "He''ll be back!  That's a guarantee!" Lol
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:00 am

Who is this derek guy?
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Post by Harleyblonde on Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:21 am

I think Michael will be in a remote part of the world, not in a busy city. dont forget you can talk to anyone anywhere in the world via the internet so he will be in touch with his children every day, also the eldest two are quite grown up now and will go their own way very soon as is part of growing up, they all rebel. Most teenagers (even celebrity children) at some point become monsters! and we are all human. If you do a massive thing like this you have to do it properly, you cannot do anything by halves with a big operation like this and sacrificies will have to have been made. When he was travelling round for a good while (Dubai etc) was he looking for somewhere for the hoax? It is probably not known all the places he went to-dark windows in cars etc and he will have had easy access staying with Royal family. Maybe just maybe it was the planning of the hoax.
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Post by pumpkin on Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:23 am

At the risk of being jumped on Derek Clontz takes the p--- out of Michael Jackson Hoax Death and others and is not for real. Take a look at some of the archives.
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Post by marsheliamorgan on Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:23 am

If Michael is somewhere, he definetly is in USA!

i dont necessarily agree dreams come true,it would be harder to stay hidden in the us than other places,look how london tabloids are different than us with the kids being able to fly anywhere he is,i think he would definatly GET OUT of the U.S. as he only came back to do rehearsals etc. i dont think he had ANY intention of staying in the U.S. after the concerts,look how he went to ireland,and etc. anythng to be out of US because of how the media did him.i think if he were resting and getting help it would MOST DEFINATLY not be here in U.S. too many gawkers and gossips,and money for story.
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Post by marsheliamorgan on Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:24 am

pumpkin, can u list the links please?i am coming up with nothing, thanks
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Post by MJFOREVER on Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:07 am

That website is full off crap Razz
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Post by Guest on Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:11 am

MJFOREVER wrote:That website is full off crap "He''ll be back!  That's a guarantee!" Icon_razz

no its not
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Post by MJFOREVER on Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:16 am

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
MJFOREVER wrote:That website is full off crap "He''ll be back!  That's a guarantee!" Icon_razz

no its not

If im correct that website posted a story that michael sleeped in the oxygenchamber, that he wanted to buy elaphantman's bones Rolling Eyes im sorry but that's all BS story's
And if that isnt that website im sorry then I DIDNT SAY ANYTHING lol! but i think it was that website
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Post by Guest on Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:41 am

trust me i know that... I know thats, BS
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Post by See on Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:48 am

Clonz is full of BS... Have you seen what he conciders news
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Post by Guest on Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:54 am

LMFAO OMFG HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
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Post by DaduXLoveMJEver on Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:12 am

does somebody know if this was posted on that blog after or before they decided to push back the tribute for 2010, June??
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Post by 2000watts on Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:07 pm

I don't believe anything this fool has on his website..why do we even bother going there? We all know he is a BS maker..

I'm guessing there is no such woman. He made the name up..

And yes, very convinant about the "world tour" for 2010 the same day the tribute gets cancelled..

Garbage is what this is..total rubbish.
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Post by hungry on Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:27 pm

I don't believe it.
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Post by Guest on Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:18 pm

Ofcause he will be back, I could have told you that Smile
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