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Post by bibi Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:52 pm

+ make sure you look towards the bottom of page 2 as well
Ok..I know this may come off as a little weird but in the end, there's a bunch of coincideces between this movie and the clues we hace been given. This was just playing on MTv today, and I decided to watch it again..it's an interesting movie.
We all know V for Vendetta is mostly about revenge...getting to justice, freedom and truth. The movie is about a totalitarian government, which I think is very similar to the press/media these days that brainwash people and make what they want out of celebrities, mostly bs. Plus, the setting of the movie is in LOndon!!!!!!!!
I have a couple of screen captures to show you what i mean:

1) This was the first thing I saw...behind V, there is a picture of a man dressed in red, with a strap going across his chest. I remember seeing a picture of MJ from a photoshoot, in an identical pose and suit( although i dont remember is it was red or not)Look:

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2) This was near the end of the movie, showing a statue of children...and it looks exactly the same as one that MJ had at Neverland... he also had statues of children flying, of Peter Pan, etc. As soon as I find the pic from NEverland I'll post it on here...but here's the one from the movie:
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3) Next, SHOCKING! I was freaking out when I saw this:
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*v FOR vENDETTA* FYTGUH
Looks familiar?? This man looks exactly exactly like the man we suspected to be MJ in disguise at his own memorial back in July. Note the cane..the Fedora..the glasses...the hair...the mustache/facial hair...he even wears black gloves... *v FOR vENDETTA* Fresse I was left speechless after this!! *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid Here's the one from the memorial..to refresh your memory
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Also...
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Next...When I saw this...it reminded me of the coffin at the memorial..the exact same flowers!!!! I remember the flowers were a clue back then as well, but I dont remember what they meant ..sorry *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_biggrin

And...here he looks like Mj from the back :


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And this is the main quote of the movie, although I'm not sure whether it is relevant to MJ..except for the plot part LOL



Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot...



TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK??AM I NUTS?? *v FOR vENDETTA* Lol


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Post by annieisnotokey Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:14 am

I don't think you are crazy. Far from it.
I'm actually shocked at the similarities you've found.
I've not watched the movie, but I think I'll be renting it first thing in the morning now! lol!

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Post by DreamsComeTrue Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:17 am

OMG!!!

Good find!

Gosh, I will see again that movie, in HD!!!!

OH MY!

Thanks for this!
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Post by Guest Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:18 am

Ive already wacthed this movie. Its cool
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Post by just_friend Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:48 am

WOOOW!!! *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_bounce
SUch a great find, bibi! *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_cheers I am just speechless of the similarities!

Sorry, but why did you pay attention to this particulat movie? Who is directing it? MJ?
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Post by EarthAngel90 Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:07 am

V... for Vendetta ?!?! .... A Revenge Movie ?!?!?! ... I think M.J. would use something like this for his plan .... sounds like him in a way .....
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Post by bibi Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:56 am

YAY!! I feel accomplished!hahha
I had no particular reason for watching it...I was just doing my work and flipping through the channels and I found this on MTV. *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_biggrin
It is by Warner Bros Pictures, direcetd by JAmes MCTeigue
HEre's all the info: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/
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Post by GirlSaturday Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:04 am

WOW! Your discovery is absolutely amazing. Great Job!

bibi wrote:YAY!! I feel accomplished!hahha
I had no particular reason for watching it...I was just doing my work and flipping through the channels and I found this on MTV. *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_biggrin
It is by Warner Bros Pictures, direcetd by JAmes MCTeigue
HEre's all the info: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/
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Post by dontmakeitfactual Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:09 am

What a Face

Wow! That was shocking! Great find, bibi.
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Post by sapatito Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:48 am

wow great find , i never had a chance to watch that movie.i'm going to try to rent it this weekend.there's a lot of similarities affraid
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Post by illusionist Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:02 am

Great flick. Seen it a zillion times.

bibi - are you talking about this statue that's at Neverland?

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I took this picture a month or two ago. It's the same one that at Neverland.

Here's my description I have when you look at this pic via my Flickr account:

Little known Michael Jackson sculpture residing in Addenbrooke Park - Lakewood, CO
You can read about it here:
www.denverpost.com/entertainment/ci_12717724
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Post by LoveisMagical Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:04 am

WOO bibi, this is one of my favorite movies...and you are right V(the man from the movie) is looking for revange...of what the goverment have done to him!!
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Post by YveLoVesMJ Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:16 am

Great find bibi! V for Vendetta , M is for Michael Jackson lol
That movies is one of my favorites. You're right, there are so many similarities, Again, it can't be just a coincidence.
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Post by emanviam Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:28 am

Oh boy....GREAT CATCH!

I think we will find a gazillion clues on our HOAX investigation!!!

Great JOB!
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Post by White_Orchid Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:32 am

Awesome catch, excellent work, Bibi! Thanx and will check out link as never saw movie.
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:37 am

Great find! I´ve stoped believing in coincidences.
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Post by mjssoulmate Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:43 am

I'll be watching this V for Vendetta this weekend. Great find!
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Post by just_friend Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:43 am

I def need to watch the movie
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Post by Loree Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:54 am

;O I really haven't watch this movie but after this
I'm soo going to watch it !
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Post by Angel Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:16 am

V for Victory
Also remember during the same time as this movie who was always flashing that V sign.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51124 Something related?

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V for Vendetta is the first listed movie that this James McTeigue directed. He has three more in production right now. Two interesting titles are:

  1. The Raven (details only on IMDbPro)
  2. Revelation (details only on IMDbPro)
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Post by Karrwinkel Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:43 pm

good..... !!! I'm very impressed! *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_cool
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Post by bibi Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:48 pm

[quote="illusionist"]Great flick. Seen it a zillion times.

bibi - are you talking about this statue that's at Neverland?

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I took this picture a month or two ago. It's the same one that at Neverland.

Here's my description I have when you look at this pic via my Flickr account:

Little known Michael Jackson sculpture residing in Addenbrooke Park - Lakewood, CO
You can read about it here:
www.denverpost.com/entertainment/ci_12717724[/quote]
That's a pretty statue..but the one I'm talking about is just like the one from the movie...a circle of children holding hands *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_smile I think there was a picture of it from that exposition when everything from Neverland went into auction


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Post by bibi Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:52 pm

Very Happy I might consider detective investigation as a career hahaha!
Just watch out..it seems to me that clues come to us when we least expect it!
I wasn't thinking of MJ while watching the movie, but once those things came up... This was me *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid X 1000000!
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Post by GirlInTheMirror1 Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:56 pm

Oh boy, bibi, good eye. I didn´t watch the movie, yet, but great you noticed that. Thanks. That would be so cool...like revenge for everything the media put him through by ridiculing them as much as possible... *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_smile
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Post by annieisnotokey Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:57 pm

bibi wrote:
That's a pretty statue..but the one I'm talking about is just like the one from the movie...a circle of children holding hands *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_smile I think there was a picture of it from that exposition when everything from Neverland went into auction

I think this is the Neverland statue you're talking about:

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Post by MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:04 pm

Bibi, GREAT FIND! I too am going to have to watch the movie again.

Angel, thanks for posting that! Very interesting...those titles! *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_biggrin

MJforeverandalways, there are NO Coincidences! I agree....

Everything happens for a reason....!!



(I too have been experiencing over and over and over and OVER, w/ the TV on in the background, soooooo many things are relating to Michael! Even when I'm out and about......music on the radio.......) (....and Disney....and Space....and MLB....) (These things keep popping up for me over and over and over.......)

Oh, also the song "Somewhere Over The Rainbow"...........Blue Birds fly...(Twitter?!)

..........to be continued............ *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_lol
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Post by MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:06 pm

(....Just a Note: I am thinking we'd all make a GREAT DETECTIVE TEAM!!) *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_cool


:~ *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_cheers ~:
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Post by Gabriel Walker Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:22 pm

You are SERIOUSLY on to something very important here.

Everyone DOES need to see this movie, he did.

Lots of love to you all
Gabriel xx
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Post by neverlandprincess Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:43 pm

hmmmnever have seen this movie
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Post by Gabriel Walker Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:55 pm

*v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_wink Oh it's a MUST
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Post by neverlandsfairy Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:01 pm

LoveisMagical wrote:WOO bibi, this is one of my favorite movies...and you are right V(the man from the movie) is looking for revange...of what the goverment have done to him!!

I could not agree more... *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_cool
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Post by bibi Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:51 pm

Angel wrote:V for Victory
Also remember during the same time as this movie who was always flashing that V sign.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51124 Something related?

*v FOR vENDETTA* R390511_1825408

V for Vendetta is the first listed movie that this James McTeigue directed. He has three more in production right now. Two interesting titles are:

  1. The Raven (details only on IMDbPro)
  2. Revelation (details only on IMDbPro)

nicee!! i didnt even think abt that!!! I guess it has a double meaning...victory and peace
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Post by swan Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:13 pm

This has just hit me like a brick. I got goosebumps when I saw this thread because during this whole time looking into MJ's 'death' This film (which I have seen more times than i can remember) has kept on popping into my head, and I had no reason why. I'm still not entirely sure why.
But i'm really going to think about it now.
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Post by GirlSaturday Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:30 pm

Someone help me out. I have never seen the movie so I am clueless as to the importance of the movie plot to the whole MJ hoax. Give me a summary...please. Right now, I am feeling a bit...see below...

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Post by swan Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:48 pm

@GirlSaturday - here's the synopsis.

The movie is set in Great Britain in the near future. Under the guise
of several terrorist acts, a totalitarian government is elected to
Parliament under Chancellor Adam Sutler (John Hurt) to save the country
from these terrorists. The only problem is the people must give up a
lot of their freedoms for being safe. The government eventually becomes
cruel, corrupt, and oppressive to the people. Driven by a personal
vendetta, a mysterious individual William Rookwood (Hugo Weaving) comes
to the forefront to take up the cause of freedom. He wears a mask of
Guy Fawkes to cover his face, and changes his name to only V. V's
mission is to kill all the doctors who had tortured him at the
detention center, and bring back justice to the country. On November 5,
in the process of blowing up his first building, V rescues a young
woman, Evey (Natalie Portman), from the secret police. V takes over the
TV station and broadcasts a message to the country condemning the
oppressors in Parliament. V invites all the people to join him in one
year on Guy Fawkes Night to see him complete what Guy Fawkes couldn't,
blow up Parliament.
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Post by GirlSaturday Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:03 pm

Thanks!

Now it makes sense.

swan wrote:@GirlSaturday - here's the synopsis.

The movie is set in Great Britain in the near future. Under the guise
of several terrorist acts, a totalitarian government is elected to
Parliament under Chancellor Adam Sutler (John Hurt) to save the country
from these terrorists. The only problem is the people must give up a
lot of their freedoms for being safe. The government eventually becomes
cruel, corrupt, and oppressive to the people. Driven by a personal
vendetta, a mysterious individual William Rookwood (Hugo Weaving) comes
to the forefront to take up the cause of freedom. He wears a mask of
Guy Fawkes to cover his face, and changes his name to only V. V's
mission is to kill all the doctors who had tortured him at the
detention center, and bring back justice to the country. On November 5,
in the process of blowing up his first building, V rescues a young
woman, Evey (Natalie Portman), from the secret police. V takes over the
TV station and broadcasts a message to the country condemning the
oppressors in Parliament. V invites all the people to join him in one
year on Guy Fawkes Night to see him complete what Guy Fawkes couldn't,
blow up Parliament.
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Post by icy55 Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:08 pm

bibi wrote:
Angel wrote:V for Victory
Also remember during the same time as this movie who was always flashing that V sign.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51124 Something related?

*v FOR vENDETTA* R390511_1825408

V for Vendetta is the first listed movie that this James McTeigue directed. He has three more in production right now. Two interesting titles are:

  1. The Raven (details only on IMDbPro)
  2. Revelation (details only on IMDbPro)

nicee!! i didnt even think abt that!!! I guess it has a double meaning...victory and peace

I personally thinks that he just meant peace... Really.
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Post by beachgirl Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:24 pm

Great find bibi.
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Post by Human_nature Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:32 pm

Gabriel Walker wrote:You are SERIOUSLY on to something very important here.

Everyone DOES need to see this movie, he did.

Lots of love to you all
Gabriel xx

Yes ! Right ! *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_smile

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Post by bibi Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:14 pm

OK!!! I know there has been a lot of controvery on here about the kids, and I hope nobody minds that I post this picture (the picture was atken before Mj "died")...it's really nothing major, you can't even see their faces...but the picture pertains to the V for Vendetta thingy...no words for it.. *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid now I truly believe this hoax has something to do with the mobie..or at least the idea of the movie..
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Post by ishealive Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:23 pm

Wooooow Bibi you're freaking me out this sounds way too familar!!!
Well done brilliant find and Prince has the same mask on!!!!
Excellent find Bibi!
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Post by ~StarLight~UK~ Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:29 pm

OMG Bibi........ *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid *v FOR vENDETTA* Icon_eek *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid *v FOR vENDETTA* Affraid Amazing find......!!
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Post by GirlSaturday Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:40 pm

Bibi ...your detective skills are amazing.

Vendetta is definitely one key motivation for the hoax.
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Post by mjssoulmate Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:18 pm

I just finished watching the movie for the first time. I must say the similarities are uncanny. One of the lines that stood out to me is this: Artists use lies to tell the truth. The movie came out in 2006. Is it possible that Michael came up with a hoax based in part on this movie?
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Post by bibi Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:31 pm

mjssoulmate wrote:I just finished watching the movie for the first time. I must say the similarities are uncanny. One of the lines that stood out to me is this: Artists use lies to tell the truth. The movie came out in 2006. Is it possible that Michael came up with a hoax based in part on this movie?
wow! that fits in very well with the hoax.
I've seen this movie a couple of years ago and I have to watch it again too!! When those images grabbed my attention, I was not really watching the movie..it was more like peeking up at the TV, from my work Very Happy And then...bye bye work haha
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Post by GirlSaturday Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:44 pm

www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/quotes

This link is for V for Vendetta movie quotes. I haven't seen the movie yet so they don't have any firm meaning for me yet. Perhaps those of you who have seen the movie will see additional clues from the quotes.
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Post by bibi Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:06 pm

I found the picture from the Neverland exhibit...that is exactly like the one in the movie...maybe they used this one in the movie??? Since Mj's trials were in 2005 and the movie was released in 2006...who knows??
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Post by GirlSaturday Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:07 pm

This is one of V's quotes. Are there any world history majors present? What historian is he referring to? What is the significance of Nov 5th?

"More than four hundred years ago a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives. So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you then I would suggest you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot."
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Post by mjssoulmate Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:09 pm

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Post by bibi Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:10 pm

GirlSaturday wrote:This is one of V's quotes. Are there any world history majors present? What historian is he referring to? What is the significance of Nov 5th?

"More than four hundred years ago a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives. So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you then I would suggest you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot."
British) anniversary of the discovery of the Gunpowder Plot.

The Gunpowder Conspiracy of 1605 (also known as Powder Treason or The Gunpowder Plot), as it was then known,[1] was a failed assassination attempt by a group of provincial English Catholics against King James I of England and VI of Scotland. The plot intended to kill the king, his family and most of the Protestant aristocracy by blowing up the Houses of Parliament during the State Opening on 5 November 1605. The conspirators had also planned to abduct the royal children (not present in Parliament)[2] and lead a popular revolt in the Midlands.
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