A NEW PROOF

Why not laught? He didn´t had to go through the agony so long as we, he was just happy and laughed. It says that this video is recorded 17th of july 2009. Not that believe it 100% but... I live the door open;)

yes your right. But I hope it is Michael, but if people think it was really Michael, wasn't it already on the news?

why not? Maybe he's just happy....

hm....if you stop the vid at 0:09 he doesn't really look like the make up Michael would use, or at least maybe using so much make up is trying to hide is not him... I don't know.....Michael is naturaly beautiful and this guy is just........something is not right about him, I think his head is too big or something..

Please go back and look at whole the "Michael Jackson Funeral 2" clip and pay attention to the trash cans and the tree behind Tatiana when she arrives at the funeral. And tell me what you think?

Eva R wrote:yes your right. But I hope it is Michael, but if people think it was really Michael, wasn't it already on the news?

I think the news can´t use a clip from Youtube;) Maybe something to do with copyright or so. Don´t know either.
Michael used sometimes quite much make up, so it would not surprise me if he´s done it again - remember when he used fake eylashes?

oh yeah! I hope it is Michael. Just those eyes at 0:34. it looks like Michael. but at something like 0:09 it really doesn't looks like Michael

Wow! Is it possible?? Faced with so much evidence I do not doubt anything. Everyone should be aware of everything!

I wish I could do this, but I don't know how...

Would someone be able to post the shot of his eyes from the video and put it next to ButterflyJ's signature? Both sets of eyes are roughly at the same angle and his left eyebrow (from video) is uncanny to the signature, and the right eyebrow is very similiar as well. And those eyes...Very, Very close to Michael's!

Butterfly J wrote:@andrea:
I´ve seen it long time ago and I´d like to believe that it is him. Pause it 0:34 when flah lights his eyes, so you can clearly see his eyes...hmmmm
I don´t know what to believe, my heart or mind
...and tead the comments of guy who posted it

nope, that's not him.

His eye are not the same as michaels

I don't think it's him....

BUT ....we never know, and.....

Where's the better place to hide ?

How many impersonators are everywhere ?

So, do you think it's possible to hide someone , right in front of you ?

Food for toughts

expect the unexpected with Michael

I tried to copy that part where you see his eyes but I don't know how :S

I just took photos with my mobile Haha! Yeas I really want to show you

de first one doesn't looks like Michael but the second photo I think looks a bit like Michael. What do you guys think?



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Like I wrote above, I don't think it's Michael, but can be a real good disguise for ...Michael LOL

haha yes

That aint mj IMO

OK that person has really big eye lashes!

Nice disguise, but the bridge of his nose isn't like that, and his eyes and eyebrows are different

mjgirl86 wrote:Nice disguise, but the bridge of his nose isn't like that, and his eyes and eyebrows are different

yeah I noticed that too!

What if it is Michael dressed to look like a bad Michael Jackson look alike..

yeah, that is possible. But why would he be outside if he 'died'? Why would he be outside and look like himself?

Eva R wrote:yeah, that is possible. But why would he be outside if he 'died'? Why would he be outside and look like himself?

Because he can;)
He could jump in the middle of the street and yell "i am Michael Jackson!" everyone would just laugh, maybe take few pics and bye. No one would believe it:) It was one of his dreams to go outside as himself like regular person. ...or maybe he just want mess with people - believers - not believers...?
Actually I don´t know

How can people fall for that one? They havn't looked inot his eyes, they would have known it was a "fake" MJ then


Like Michael would just jump out of nowhere and say" Ehh, im sorry if I scared you guys, but I had some issues I needed to solve. I hope it's alright. By the way, now that I am here, would you mind taken a picture of us?

Comeon!!!

See wrote:What if it is Michael dressed to look like a bad Michael Jackson look alike..

He would probably lose the lookalike competition like Charlie Chaplin didn't win a Charlie Chaplin lookalike competition. Imagine that!
Can't quite get my head round the fact that a Charlie Chaplin lookalike looked more like Charlie than Charlie did....... but it happened!

Butterfly J wrote:

Eva R wrote:yeah, that is possible. But why would he be outside if he 'died'? Why would he be outside and look like himself?

Because he can;)
He could jump in the middle of the street and yell "i am Michael Jackson!" everyone would just laugh, maybe take few pics and bye. No one would believe it:) It was one of his dreams to go outside as himself like regular person. ...or maybe he just want mess with people - believers - not believers...?
Actually I don´t know

LOL why not...ppl think he is dead anyway and everybody knows about his look alikes...
BTW that´s not Michael...look at the eyes!

See wrote:

Butterfly J wrote:

Eva R wrote:yeah, that is possible. But why would he be outside if he 'died'? Why would he be outside and look like himself?

Because he can;)
He could jump in the middle of the street and yell "i am Michael Jackson!" everyone would just laugh, maybe take few pics and bye. No one would believe it:) It was one of his dreams to go outside as himself like regular person. ...or maybe he just want mess with people - believers - not believers...?
Actually I don´t know

LOL why not...ppl think he is dead anyway and everybody knows about his look alikes...
BTW that´s not Michael...look at the eyes!

haha yes your right! Nobody would believe it!

@see I look at his eyes ... thous are gorgeous

Butterfly J wrote:@see I look at his eyes ... thous are gorgeous

LOL yeah they are so dreamy, and that smile awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww....

I think Forest Lawn wouldn't want to damage it's "highest degree of integrity" image.

His hair doesn't look like Michael's and I think he's taller than Michael.

About the funeral, there had been 2 different funerals. One of them was in The Forest Lawn and the other was at the film studio. I'm going to give you the links, so you can watch the vids yourself and see the differences btw the 2 locations

You can see the differences between the helicopter and the ground shootings! Look at the path, the trees and the building at the background. Wish I could know how to post pictures here so I could tell you in details! The ground shootings are from the Forest Lawn. Forest Lawn is in the mountains of LA and that's what you see in the background. And it's on a hill. But the studio is in the center of the city and you can see the houses close to it. Just compare the two vids guys and you will see it.

You can watch this video to see the difference in the path, the bushes, trees etc...
First watch this one to look at the path and trees. A ground shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlnGWwU7_8&feature=related

And this is a helicopter shooting. Watch them both and compare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LoTWVvGl6I

The hair isn't an issue as it's been written that MJ was wearing a wig (?).
Thanks for the links, I'll try to compare.

About comparing you tube videos: I've took the liberty to openly ask those who've been at Forest Lawn recently and they confirm both views are one and the same location. Read here: http://www.michaeljackson.com/fi/node/396912#comment-397175
I had my doubts but an aerial is just...different.
I don't feel better about it - just the opposite.

MjJProduction wrote:HELLO EVERYBODY.... today my friend and I have discoverd something please take a look. we know that Mike have reharsed at cluver studios..... culver city.... let's take a look of the official site

official page


"cluver city the heart of the screenland" a movie city!and now.... let's take a look of the wikipedia page wikipedia


The Culver Studios is a historic Colonial-styled movie studio.




it seems like FOREST LAWN!!!and..... if the funerl was filming in these studios??????? let's take a look of this map photo, but first you must see this video



and then look at this picture





this is the view of the cluver studios!!! the same place as the funeral!!!!! MICHAEL HAS STAGED THE FUNERALE INTO THE CLUVER STUDIOS!!!
one last thing.... forest lawn ins't into Los Angeles... it is on the mountain near LA... and the Cluver Studios are into LA!! also in the video we can see the city that sorrund the studios!

The colonial house is actually the gone with the wind set, in culver studios. That's where the dome project was filmed. Anyway i've said this many times, study the paths on the funeral video, and compare them to the aerial view paths. Completely different.

Thank you for your effort, I really appreciate!
I'm sorry but I couldn't match much of anything.
Well, people were at the Forest Lawn gates and saw those who were invited to the funeral, arriving. So were attendants and Forest Lawn employees who confirmed the funeral.
Why would anybody have two funerals at two different locations if any at all?
Why would they film one at the studio and why another one at Forest Lawn? It just does not make any sense.

To create an illusion, perhaps? I mean we have concrete proof that there were two "funerals" that took place, based on the footage taken. Perhaps it was done to show us (his TRUE fans) how silly the press really is and how they can't see anything, even when it's right in front of their faces?

I look at it this way: if there weren't more than one 911-call, ambulance video footage, funeral footage, of which are completely different, might I add, we wouldn't be questioning anything.

The fact that there is more than one version of everything just means, to me, that we are meant to be questioning and not just trusting everything that we hear in the media.

Michael is a genius. He is all about illusions (look at the lean), so it makes perfect sense to me!

Well, we might just imagine things when we are not physically around to see happenings and even if we might be present, illusions happen.
I wouldn't trust more ore less some pictures or press releases on the internet than my own eyes & ears - everything is media manipulation.
And some real crazy stuff is shown on daily basis just for fun or for getting attention.
Something that would really convince is do real field investigation like talking to people who worked with the MJ on many different occasions, like legal papers, like official authorities and family releases.

I have no concrete or legal proof for nothing that happened whatsoever and that, my friend might be the best thing.

Good heavens what a good find! I can't believe that Michael staged his own Funeral at Culver Studios! Well at this point anything is possible!

So you think, that MIchael staged his Funeral at culver studios and the entrance of the guests at the gates was a fake or has been staged too, to make the people think, that this funeral is real?

I can't imagine that, too, unless the media was told to tell the public that this material was filmed at forest lawn but that would make no sense to me

though i can't get my head around the media and fan presence that day
i have been going over the funeral 1 video (ground footage live footage feed from the Jacksons) with a magnifying glass and with a frenzy
here's what i've found so far and i'm only 15 seconds in you might want to copy this over or print it out so you can keep up ok here we go
press play and watch through to 15 seconds
go back and look till 0:10 now freeze video
-see "usher-dancer" standing on border of drive up and notice there is nothing directly behind him all trees are way back behind him
-at 0:12 our usher is still standing in the same place as the usher to his right moves forward behind dame in pink frilly dress(sheesh funeral attire...NOT)
notice behind her large bush at ground level by building and large tree to the left of this bush
-at 0:13 at left edge of frame our usher is still seen to be standing in same place. Notice the loudspeakers on tripod to his right and further to the right another tripod
-at 0:15freeze and notice tree trunk behind our ushers legs, as lady with orange shawl walks past him, notice large tree( from 0:12 next to the bush)
above and to his right side
Now where did the tree BEHIND his legs on left side suddenly come from???
And why does it look so flat???For it to be seen like that,just the trunk and no upper leaves , it would have to be one very large tree, remember or go back and look at the beginning , evrything behind him is far off to the back AND it's all much lower i don't see a tree that big in the area. Now if you say oh thats because of the camera angle changing then WOW for it to be standing that far back from him yet we still only see it's trunk then it would have to be a huge, giant, humongous, garganticly high tree... JMO

come on people work work work

About the video, I saw that video long ago and I dont believe if it is MJ.

I am convinced that they made two burial ceremonies, the one where all the press knew, the people knew, etc, and the other one that was made at culver city, I think that Souza wrote something very interesting about it.

I might be narrow minded but I just don't get it.
I just can't see any similarities between the two locations and the aerial, then,
why would he have two burials at all?

- If he is alive, the burial at Forest Lawn was more than enough for a hoax.

What would any other ceremony at Culver (if there was any there, which I very much doubt) help?

lyl wrote:I might be narrow minded but I just don't get it.
I just can't see any similarities between the two locations and the aerial, then,
why would he have two burials at all?

- If he is alive, the burial at Forest Lawn was more than enough for a hoax.

What would any other ceremony at Culver (if there was any there, which I very much doubt) help?

I agree with you on all these points. They would not want to draw attention to the hoax by having two venue's and it would not be wise and not likely to have many in on the hoax.

Right to the point, Harleyblonde.

paulinah79 wrote:I am convinced that they made two burial ceremonies, the one where all the press knew, the people knew, etc, and the other one that was made at culver city, I think that Souza wrote something very interesting about it.

but should they do a second burial ceremony then? That makes no sense to me