Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange.

by See Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:03 am

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/the-helicopter-body-moving-in-helicopter-airlift-to-ucla-hospital/video-showing-that-the-body-is-not-moving-inside-the-helicopter-its-being-moved-by-a-man-in-orange-you-can-clearly-see-it-in-this-vid-check-it-out-and-tell-me-what-you-think/

Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter.
It's being moved by a man in orange. You can clearly see it in this vid.
Check it out and tell me what you think!

Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Sf-smile

He's not dead, just saying:
Someone in orange is moving "the body" at around 0:06sec and at 1:18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMfX5L-gCeU&feature=player_embedded#

Credits go to Five from MJDH...

by Eva R Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:24 am

I never believed that Michael was moving in the helicopter. The guy in the orange is moving it. But it is not Michael, the body. Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Fresse

Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Fresse

by emo_pinkt Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:34 am

Why in the world is the man moving the body lol

by amy Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:43 am

Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Affraid

wth he is moving the body

by Grace Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:53 am

To release the safety belts

by IndonesianGirl Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:56 am

sooo ...
hmm ....
i think michael was NEVER in the helicopter ...
that's my opinion

by mjssoulmate Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:56 am

Why is he moving the body? Why wasn't orange guy seen after the helicopter landed? Not even a glimpse of him.

by Harleyblonde Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:02 am

What makes me suspicious about this is when I saw the film before the guy in orange moving the body was not there, now it is so obvious no one can miss it. maybe is a long shot but has someone added the orange suited guy in the film and posted the video to substantiate the hoax and to make all who believe MJ is alive to have doubts and look foolish? Don't forget MJ could have been in danger and they will not want anyone to think he is alive. It just seems strange to me that this should just surface when we have had the video without the guy moving the body to watch for over 3 months. If this was indeed true and the guy was moving the body then why didn't we see it before and if is a different video (I don't think it is) why didn't someone post it before? Weird!! Something is most definitely not right.

by emo_pinkt Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:10 am

mjssoulmate wrote:Why is he moving the body? Why wasn't orange guy seen after the helicopter landed? Not even a glimpse of him.

Same thing I'm wondering and why in heavens name would he move the 'body' Upwards..while the helicopter is moving. I must Admit I cried when I watched the video though Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Icon_sad

by ilprincipe Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:13 am

I don't get the purpose of the moving body....

But the body who was transported into the helicopter was not the same like the body
when the heli landed...

It's good to see in this vid from mauramissesmichael
a member of this site...
I think it's part 10

by MauraMissesMichael Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:19 am

HAHAHA WHAT??? Im sorry but im calling bullshit on this one. I guess we see what we want to see, but i just see some weird glob of red, that I never saw in ANY other video of Michael inside of this helicopter. NOT TO MENTION, that nobody in orange EVER enters or exits this helicopter.

Im not just being biased here or anything, but im calling bullshit on this. This video is totally shady, Why is this "orange" figure not in ANY other video???? There are no hands and we dont actually see him moving the body...

Its not clear enough to end the moving body theory. hah.. Nice catch though

by ILuvUMoreMJ Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:20 am

Harleyblonde wrote:What makes me suspicious about this is when I saw the film before the guy in orange moving the body was not there, now it is so obvious no one can miss it. maybe is a long shot but has someone added the orange suited guy in the film and posted the video to substantiate the hoax and to make all who believe MJ is alive to have doubts and look foolish? Don't forget MJ could have been in danger and they will not want anyone to think he is alive. It just seems strange to me that this should just surface when we have had the video without the guy moving the body to watch for over 3 months. If this was indeed true and the guy was moving the body then why didn't we see it before and if is a different video (I don't think it is) why didn't someone post it before? Weird!! Something is most definitely not right.

Good point!

by Grace Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:31 am

Harleyblonde wrote:What makes me suspicious about this is when I saw the film before the guy in orange moving the body was not there.

Harley, same here.
BUT we were always presented very bad quality videos at that time and made (had to make) our minds up based on very blurry pictures.

What if the orange guy is Michael?
I always thought he enjoyed the ride and even thought he would be the guy standing in the door. Wondering about them flying "open-door" - they do seem to like this in L.A. as this video proves. You will find interesting impressions of the functional inside as well. A kid was flown to a hospital - and guess what - not fixed on a stretcher in front of the door since the regular stretcher is NOT in front of the door. I think Michael stayed in the heli and the doll or whatever was taken out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP-F9UQd27Q

And in this one you'll find that such a heli was acquired for 1 $ only - so why not by a hollywood production firm too? Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Icon_wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-osCPV5C7c0

Keep the faith - it's all fine.

by emo_pinkt Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:38 am

MauraMissesMichael wrote:HAHAHA WHAT??? Im sorry but im calling bullshit on this one. I guess we see what we want to see, but i just see some weird glob of red, that I never saw in ANY other video of Michael inside of this helicopter. NOT TO MENTION, that nobody in orange EVER enters or exits this helicopter.

Im not just being biased here or anything, but im calling bullshit on this. This video is totally shady, Why is this "orange" figure not in ANY other video???? There are no hands and we dont actually see him moving the body...

Its not clear enough to end the moving body theory. hah.. Nice catch though

I wrote in the thread on MJDH that I did not see any body..I must admit I see some orange thing in there but it honestly does not look like a person to me

by ilprincipe Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:39 am

Grace wrote:
Harleyblonde wrote:What makes me suspicious about this is when I saw the film before the guy in orange moving the body was not there.

Harley, same here.
BUT we were always presented very bad quality videos at that time and made (had to make) our minds up based on very blurry pictures.

What if the orange guy is Michael?
I always thought he enjoyed the ride and even thought he would be the guy standing in the door. Wondering about them flying "open-door" - they do seem to like this in L.A. as this video proves. You will find interesting impressions of the functional inside as well. A kid was flown to a hospital - and guess what - not fixed on a stretcher in front of the door since the regular stretcher is NOT in front of the door. I think Michael stayed in the heli and the doll or whatever was taken out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP-F9UQd27Q

And in this one you'll find that such a heli was acquired for 1 $ only - so why not by a hollywood production firm too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-osCPV5C7c0

Keep the faith - it's all fine.

this is crazy and brillant equally....never thought of that!!!
If so, an oscar would be more than well-deserved Smile

by Grace Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:43 am

I always thought he was just right in front of our eyes.
However, the guy in the door had a too strong built compared to Michael.
But I liked the idea - and he certainly would have too. Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Icon_biggrin

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:47 am

Actually, I don´t see a man, I just see something red/orange Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Confused

Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Confused

I´m not sure though, never have been either, that there is a movement of the body, I think it´s all shadows and how the helicopter turns.

btw, this was from aftonbladet tv, a swedish newspaper Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Icon_smile

by April-R Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:49 am

This orange -whatsoever- also appears on the videos before, but its
hard to say if this guy moves the body or if the body moved first - i
don't know..

No matter what.. I agree with ilprincipe this body is not the same that was tranported into the coroner's car.

by emo_pinkt Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:53 am

tis_ruthy said:
Heyyy five, its not someone wearing orange/red in the helicopter
pushing …its just part of the helicopter or something in there..if you
look at this video at around 2.12 ..you can clearly see its something
in there but its not a person..its also at an angle so i can understand
why you thought it was someones legs pushing the "body". oops lol
embedded wrong video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp95YX7OEPo&feature=player_embedded

ok this is from tis..Ruthy at MJDH..Now i'm even more confused lol

by Grace Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:00 am

There is an orange box with rescue material inside of the heli.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP-F9UQd27Q

by Eva R Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:21 am

yeah I don't think it is Michael, the guy in the orange. Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Icon_wink

Because if he knows he faked his death (ofcourse he knows Razz

) then he would feel bad about it. Yes, he knows that he had to do it, but he doesn't really liked it. He also knew that if he would do this, maybe people will do suicide.. So that is why i don't think Michael is the guy in the orange. He wouldn't just be with the 'dead body'

by marsheliamorgan Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:35 am

ok, so now i am even MORE confused than before as i was already rethinking things this am
i cant figure any of this out and things just seem to get more and more debunked,however i am still with harleyblonde, WHY JUST SEEING AND THIS BEING POINTED OUT NOW?yea,ok,orange has ALWAYS been there,however,we or least I dont see any hands,etc. and why would they be moving body?doesnt make sense to me, i am completly and utterly confused

and ready to pull my hair and go running thru the house screaming other than it would totally convince hubby at this point he should have me committed.

by emo_pinkt Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:48 am

marsheliamorgan wrote:ok, so now i am even MORE confused than before as i was already rethinking things this am
i cant figure any of this out and things just seem to get more and more debunked,however i am still with harleyblonde, WHY JUST SEEING AND THIS BEING POINTED OUT NOW?yea,ok,orange has ALWAYS been there,however,we or least I dont see any hands,etc. and why would they be moving body?doesnt make sense to me, i am completly and utterly confused and ready to pull my hair and go running thru the house screaming other than it would totally convince hubby at this point he should have me committed.

The orange guy theory was supposedly debunked a while ago on the other forum, But I'm still confused.

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/the-helicopter-body-moving-in-helicopter-airlift-to-ucla-hospital/maybe-some-proof-that-the-guy-in-the-orange-in-the-helicopter-isnt-actually-a-person/

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/the-helicopter-body-moving-in-helicopter-airlift-to-ucla-hospital/video-showing-that-the-body-is-not-moving-inside-the-helicopter-its-being-moved-by-a-man-in-orange-you-can-clearly-see-it-in-this-vid-check-it-out-and-tell-me-what-you-think/

by marsheliamorgan Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:59 am

so,if body WASNT moving doesnt this hurt our hoax theory? i know this is where i REALLY started looking at ALL the stuff,and this has stuck in my mind above all,now,its not true?

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:09 am

This is just my opinion but I don´t think MJ would "play" dead to fool the world. So my hypothesis is either someone died instead of MJ (annies theory)and he was really dead (meaning noone moved in the helicopter, just shadows etc.) or noone died and it´s all make believe show for the media from day one. No body, just a stretcher. Possibly a doll.

by tink.I.am Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:29 am

I cant see any orange "man", what i can see is a orange plastic rubbery thing behind "MJ". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp95YX7OEPo (added 25june)

by dancer1792 Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:07 am

What I see in the video is that at 0:03 the sheet starts raising up and in the background you see an orange blob which looks it is too far away to be moving the sheet. If you pause the video at 0:05, the orang blob starts to look like a person's leg, but it is still to blurry to be positive.

If you look closely focusing on the orange blob, it looks like it doesn't move at all and looks too far away to affect the body. Plus, at the angle in which the body raises up, you would think that you could see hands lifting the body up which you don't. That's just my opinion.

by rowdyangel Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:20 am

IMO Michael was not even in the helicopter. Why would he be in there at risk of being seen? There is no logical reason for him to be in there. I reckon he was gone days before 25th June.

The orange is not a person, it looks like a medical bag/box.

by Eva R Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:24 am

rowdyangel wrote:IMO Michael was not even in the helicopter. Why would he be in there at risk of being seen? There is no logical reason for him to be in there. I reckon he was gone days before 25th June.

The orange is not a person, it looks like a medical bag/box.

What do you mean? I reckon he was gone days before 25th June? Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Icon_eek

you mean you think he was already dead?

by dancer1792 Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:26 am

Eva R wrote:
rowdyangel wrote:IMO Michael was not even in the helicopter. Why would he be in there at risk of being seen? There is no logical reason for him to be in there. I reckon he was gone days before 25th June.

The orange is not a person, it looks like a medical bag/box.

What do you mean? I reckon he was gone days before 25th June? you mean you think he was already dead?

I think that rowdyangel means that MJ had left days before June 25 so he was not in the helicopter, he was far away.

by rowdyangel Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:32 am

dancer1792 is correct. Sorry if my thread was mis-leading. I meant that he had left days before - I certainly do not think he is dead and never will until I see proof of the fact. Very Happy

by Diana.. Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:33 am

well it is possible that Michael had left days before 25th June ...the familly said a lot of lies ..

by Makea Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:36 am

Diana.. wrote:well it is possible that Michael had left days before 25th June ...the familly said a lot of lies ..

Not only days, I think he left months before Rolling Eyes

by Diana.. Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:38 am

Makea wrote:
Diana.. wrote:well it is possible that Michael had left days before 25th June ...the familly said a lot of lies ..

Not only days, I think he left months before

wow..months... Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Affraid

..well i don`t know what to say but..i hope that someday we will know the true

by Grace Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:14 pm

No, I don't think he left months or days ago - there were always his children and he needed someone of his trusted friends to care for them when he left.

This 6/25 was a special day - the yard full of SUVs - IMO that was the family taking over the situation from him, it was handing the keys over.

I always wondered why they said they got informed only by media or family members and ran to UCLA. I always felt that was a lie and that the family was there at Carolwood with the ambulance. Who else would sit in the SUVs and why would they need two SUVs to follow the ambulance to UCLA? Only for the bodyguards to hold up their jackets to prevent from pics shot by paparazzi? That's ridiculous.

And how did the family get into the house after the staff was fired - without any keys? But claimed they were hindered from entering the ground and house before? Ridiculous as well.

Remember the "marriage celebration" of his parents?
The last opportunity for the family to meet ALL members officially for the public? I imagine that some decisions were taken that day as this usually happens at huge family events.

by Diana.. Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:17 pm

Grace wrote:No, I don't think he left months or days ago - there were always his children and he needed someone of his trusted friends to care for them when he left.

This 6/25 was a special day - the yard full of SUVs - IMO that was the family taking over the situation from him, it was handing the keys over.

I always wondered why they said they got informed only by media or family members and ran to UCLA. I always felt that was a lie and that the family was there at Carolwood with the ambulance. Who else would sit in the SUVs and why would they need two SUVs to follow the ambulance to UCLA? Only for the bodyguards to hold up their jackets to prevent from pics shot by paparazzi? That's ridiculous.

And how did the family get into the house after the staff was fired - without any keys? But claimed they were hindered from entering the ground and house before? Ridiculous as well.

Remember the "marriage celebration" of his parents?
The last opportunity for the family to meet ALL members officially for the public? I imagine that some decisions were taken that day as this usually happens at huge family events.

well, maybe you`re right..

by tinkerbell72 Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:20 pm

can i tell my personal opinion? hope you won't think i'm crazy...
that's nothing but sunlight and shade. as the helicopter turns we see sunlight going inside the helicopter. there is something of the same color under the "bed". as sunlight gets inside the helicopter, we can see the inside of the helicopter, or somthing that's inside that's orange/red like under the bed. that's why we can't see 2 legs or any arm or hand. that's why this red/orange person never came out and had strange clothes on. because there is nobody there!
I'll apoligise enough for my english, lol! hope you'll understand anyway.

by neverlandprincess Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:35 pm

ok ok ok ok...I cannot see this link yet-BUT I have watched the video that Maurramissesmichael used in hr theory video a jillion times and I really did look and never saw anybody. I rally looked b/c I did not want it to be a fake video lik the one where he is getting out of the ambulance. NOW my questions are. A. why were they moving the body? B. If to relase safety belts then why were they "lifting" the body? C. If they did HAVE to lift the body to release said belts then why was ONE guy behind the body to lift it in a sitting position to "release the belts"...why did he not have help? C.Why release the safety belts in the middle of an AIRLIFT? why would they not wait until the helicopter was landed? Makes no sense. D. Why do we not see a guy in orange ever again?

by maria-c Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:22 pm

Yo no si se trasladan o no, lo que si veo es que lo que subió en este helicóptero no es el mismo que bajó, basta con ver el video que ponen, en este Vido parece que el doctor Tohme subir a el helicóptero, pero al llegar no baja.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OjJf02CBtk

by MJonMyMind Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:48 pm

rowdyangel wrote:IMO Michael was not even in the helicopter. Why would he be in there at risk of being seen? There is no logical reason for him to be in there. I reckon he was gone days before 25th June.

The orange is not a person, it looks like a medical bag/box.

I agree 100% MJ was long gone...Its MJs double that either died or played the part

very well...Enough said! Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Icon_flower

by jenn77 Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:01 pm

Ok, I have to say something here that has been bothering me since the beggining. Someone here mentionned that MJ would suspect people would commit suicide over the hoax. Well I am sorry, but I never for one minute thought that people would commit suicide over the death of their idol who was not litterally part of their lives. So I dont see how MJ could have suspected this, sure if he did hoax it I AM SURE HE IS REALLY REALLY FEELING TERRIBLY BADLY ABOUT IT. I really dont want to sound harsh but I think that if someone commit's suicide over the death of an icon, eventually there would have been another reason down the road to commit...IMO.

If I offended anyone here, I am terribly sorry but I think nobody is adressing this out of fear to hurt someone's feelings who may know someone who did do such a thing but I believe we need to free michael of the burden HE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR FANS SUICIDES.

by NYMoonwalker Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:12 pm

jenn77 wrote:Ok, I have to say something here that has been bothering me since the beggining. Someone here mentionned that MJ would suspect people would commit suicide over the hoax. Well I am sorry, but I never for one minute thought that people would commit suicide over the death of their idol who was not litterally part of their lives. So I dont see how MJ could have suspected this, sure if he did hoax it I AM SURE HE IS REALLY REALLY FEELING TERRIBLY BADLY ABOUT IT. I really dont want to sound harsh but I think that if someone commit's suicide over the death of an icon, eventually there would have been another reason down the road to commit...IMO.

If I offended anyone here, I am terribly sorry but I think nobody is adressing this out of fear to hurt someone's feelings who may know someone who did do such a thing but I believe we need to free michael of the burden HE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR FANS SUICIDES.

Completely agree. If you love Michael that much, then you should know that he would NEVER want you to do something like that. Michael would want us to celebrate his life & help make him immortal. But that would apply if Michael was dead, which I don't want to accept or believe. Nonetheless, R.I.P to those fans that took their own lives.

by jenn77 Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:18 pm

TY NYMOONWALKER Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Icon_cheers

I was nervous about saying anything but I could not take it anymore.

I did fail to say that I am truly sorry to anyone who knew a person who has taken their life over this, I dont mean anything mean or such towards those people and it truly saddens me that some have done so.

by mj's badest B!-tch Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:11 am

Hey guys I just want to add that didn't they say that MJ "died" earlier that morning? well if that's so then even if and do mean "if" someone did move the body then wouldn't it be difficult to move the body especially when we all know that rigamortis has set in way before the time the world had seen him? I mean that body was something kind of wiggly and agile up under that sheet for a corps that had been dead all that time don't you think?...... Laughing

by Butterfly J Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:45 am

Why move the body?
To remove the safety belts is no need to lift a body...and why release the safety belts at all?

by Eva R Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:48 am

rowdyangel wrote:dancer1792 is correct. Sorry if my thread was mis-leading. I meant that he had left days before - I certainly do not think he is dead and never will until I see proof of the fact.

ooh oke! I understand! Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Icon_biggrin

by Kirsche Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:27 pm

For me it looks like the body is wiggling himself out of the straps, not been lift by a hand

by infinitylady Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:40 pm

jenn7:but I believe we need to free michael of the burden HE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR FANS SUICIDES.

Me: Thanks for sharing this. I don't feel that MJ should be at fault for someone else to make a decision to take their own life. I am not trying to be cold here.

by neverlandprincess Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:58 pm

@Mjs baddest ----- That was my thoughts as well-also why move the body and undo the straps period? Especially in the middle of a flight?

by Eva R Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:00 pm

neverlandprincess, I LOVE YOUR MOVING PICTURE!! soo cute! Love that concert! Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Herz

Video showing that "the body" is NOT moving inside the helicopter. It's being moved by a man in orange. Herz

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