Michael's message...

juliet wrote:Hey LIZ. I'm sorry I had to log out for a while (meds). Did I miss anything?

Great work with what you've done with Michael's messages in the TII Movie.
I love you more now (med's effect) so than ever. You do him proud really for getting all these messages out to people.

I'm sooooo proud of you. By the way, did you get any rest? The way I see it, you haven't even eaten. Go and have a proper meal, I don't want you getting sick or something.

Again, thanks LIZ 'Jackson' Sounds good?

Awww!!! I love you more now than ever too!!! And I'm not takin any meds. Hehe.


Thank you. I was hoping someone else would see this. <3
It's not much but it's something you know? And I know Michael wants all of his fans to know what's going on.

Nope, no rest yet. I've been on here since you left. Hehe...really, I'm just addicted to Michael. I had a hot pocket if you now what those are. It was yummy. That's it though.I bet I'm going to lose some weight because I haven't been that hungry these last few days. Maybe it's all the excitement from MJ.

Thank you my love for the sweet wishes.
Aww...LIZ JACKSON!! So cute!!! I really wish. <3
Juliet, do you have a youtube or myspace? I would love to add you. You are so sweet.

juliet wrote:No LIZ, I never subscribed to YOU TUBE because it's controlled by Sony and Time Warner. I just go and watch/browse through.

I was never to FACEBOOK or TWITTER or MYSPACE either because they can all be monitored or manipulated. I guess I'm really set on my principles not to give in to the manipulators.

Sooooo love the thought, though. Tempting to break my principles.

Aww...that's to bad. It will be okay though. I will continue to love you. Lol.

speechlessornot wrote:Hi everyone! I really appreciate you talent in finding all kind of clues. My eyes are not so good as yours....unfortunately...i am not good to be Sherlock Holmes . But...please don't blame me if i say that those words Michael said at the end seems to refer to the stage direction...what moves he has to do , how and when. Don't forget it's just rehearsals and during rehearsals all kind of stage indications are given.

4evermichael71 wrote:@Liz- I just wanna say that except for my daughter who is around your age, you are the coolest, sweetest, kindest young lady ever! Ok, you even out-do my Alyson Your parents should be so proud of you! Thank you for your insights in Michael's message, I think you're right! Never stop being you and Liz Jackson..very nice

Aww...thank you so much. You made me smile. But I doubt I out-do your daughter. You are so kind, cool, and sweet too.

Liz Jackson. Lol. I like Elizabeth Jackson. I think it's pretty and so so sweet. <3 Lol.

My parents...hmm...not sure they're that proud of me.

My mom especially...hehe. She is kinda an MJ hater so she doesn't know anything about this site(which I spend hours on each day.) Hehe. I told her i wanted to go see TII again and she thought I was crazy. Lol. Your daughter is very blessed to have a mom that loves MJ.

Take care and God bless! Keep the faith! You are so so sweet. <3

speechlessornot wrote:Hi everyone! I really appreciate you talent in finding all kind of clues. My eyes are not so good as yours....unfortunately...i am not good to be Sherlock Holmes . But...please don't blame me if i say that those words Michael said at the end seems to refer to the stage direction...what moves he has to do , how and when. Don't forget it's just rehearsals and during rehearsals all kind of stage indications are given.

lou wrote:

speechlessornot wrote:Hi everyone! I really appreciate you talent in finding all kind of clues. My eyes are not so good as yours....unfortunately...i am not good to be Sherlock Holmes . But...please don't blame me if i say that those words Michael said at the end seems to refer to the stage direction...what moves he has to do , how and when. Don't forget it's just rehearsals and during rehearsals all kind of stage indications are given.

Hi! I see what you mean, but the editor chose to insert this scene at the very end of the movie. If it was anywhere else, probably nobody would take it as a "clue".

BTW, LizzieBee, you made a great analysis of the message!

Thank you.
I'm glad it could give you guys some encouragement. I really think he's coming back. I don't think he'd leave us like this. <3

LizzieBee wrote:

4evermichael71 wrote:@Liz- I just wanna say that except for my daughter who is around your age, you are the coolest, sweetest, kindest young lady ever! Ok, you even out-do my Alyson Your parents should be so proud of you! Thank you for your insights in Michael's message, I think you're right! Never stop being you and Liz Jackson..very nice

Aww...thank you so much. You made me smile. But I doubt I out-do your daughter. You are so kind, cool, and sweet too.

Liz Jackson. Lol. I like Elizabeth Jackson. I think it's pretty and so so sweet. <3 Lol.

My parents...hmm...not sure they're that proud of me.

My mom especially...hehe. She is kinda an MJ hater so she doesn't know anything about this site(which I spend hours on each day.) Hehe. I told her i wanted to go see TII again and she thought I was crazy. Lol. Your daughter is very blessed to have a mom that loves MJ.

Take care and God bless! Keep the faith! You are so so sweet. <3

speechlessornot wrote:I'm trying to be realistic. It's not useful for anyone to "get drunk with fresh water' ( it's a saying from my country...i tried to translate it and i hope you can catch its meaning ). I'm longing for a sign , a 100% real one, that Michael is alive. That's my wish : to be sure that he is alive, even if he don't come back to us ever. Ok...it could be a question mark here...why those words appear after the credits... I cannot watch the movie because of more objective reasons...and what i know is from what discussed on different forums. So, I don't want to be in contradiction with all of you but I just want to be sure .

It's okay. I understand.
We all want to know the truth.
We all know what it's like to doubt and want something 100% real. A cold hard fact. But I don't think we've gotten any of those yet so we'll just have to keep watching. Thank you for posting your thoughts. And I love the "get drunk with fresh water" quote.
Take care, keep the faith, and God bless you. <3

4evermichael71 wrote:

LizzieBee wrote:

4evermichael71 wrote:@Liz- I just wanna say that except for my daughter who is around your age, you are the coolest, sweetest, kindest young lady ever! Ok, you even out-do my Alyson Your parents should be so proud of you! Thank you for your insights in Michael's message, I think you're right! Never stop being you and Liz Jackson..very nice

Aww...thank you so much. You made me smile. But I doubt I out-do your daughter. You are so kind, cool, and sweet too.

Liz Jackson. Lol. I like Elizabeth Jackson. I think it's pretty and so so sweet. <3 Lol.

My parents...hmm...not sure they're that proud of me.

My mom especially...hehe. She is kinda an MJ hater so she doesn't know anything about this site(which I spend hours on each day.) Hehe. I told her i wanted to go see TII again and she thought I was crazy. Lol. Your daughter is very blessed to have a mom that loves MJ.

Take care and God bless! Keep the faith! You are so so sweet. <3

Thank you
Alyson isn't as into MJ as I am, she's in her hard rock phase at the moment BUT that could change at any time LOL I'd prefer she listen to MJ but you can't have it all LOL
It's ok about your mom...sometimes parents just don't understand..I know there's a lot I fail to get about Alyson's interests and I get the "but mom, you just don't get me at all!" followed by extreme stomping to her room and a slamming of the door LOL
Just keep true to yourself and the rest will fall into place. It took me a long time to realize Alyson and I were not always going to enjoy the same things, so be patient with your mom, she'll get there

I went through that phase too. Actually, I love all music really. I'm so passionate about it. I believe God works through music. So beautiful. <3 Hehe. You're right. We can't have it all. I hope and pray she gets there. It's pretty difficult to live with someone who hates the man you're in love with. Lol. Made myself giggle with that one. Love and blessings from my family to all of yours. <3

Sweet1 wrote:This is great! It seems as though this was just for the fans. I know no one else paid attention. MJ probably had KO put this at the end for us. Thank you for the great post. Keep the Faith!

Thanks so much. I really want as many people to see this as possible. I hope it gives them a little more faith to keep going.
"All you need is faith, trust, and a little pixie dust." Lol. Love you guys so much. I love you Michael. I'm tellin' ya! Hehe. <3

LizzieBee wrote:Okay, so everyone is wanting to know what exactly Michael said at the end of TII after the credits rolled and IF it was a clue.

I got my braces tightened yesterday and so my teeth are HURTING. I haven't eaten all day because it hurts to much. I just went downstairs to fix something to eat and MJ's message popped into my head. Let's see if I picked this apart enough.

MJ said,

"Let me breathe in my own time like I...I'll unbutton my shirt. My jacket...waist. I'm gonna move around a little bit, play with em. Snap my signal ready to begin and BAM." Now this is all I could make out from the clip below. I'm going to see the movie for the 2nd time tomorrow and I'll be sure to write it down this time.

Now you guys...I'm really excited about this!!! My interpretation of what MJ is saying goes like this:

Let me breathe in my own time = Let's let Michael step back and breathe. I really think he's coming back guys!!

I'll unbutton my shirt = He's going to relax...we unbutton our shirt to take it off and get into something more comfortable right??

I'm gonna move around a little bit = Dave Dave? Maybe I'm wrong but he's going to move around a little bit like as in go places? Disguises? Making us curious?? Remember, he looked left and right as he said this...like he is going to look out and has to be SNEAKY. Muahh hhahahhhha...*laughs evilly*

Play with em' = He is playing with everyone!! Except us of course. Hehe. I believe Michael is just sitting back and watching the media. Like he said...he is gonna play with them. Gosh I love Michael!!! <3

Snap my signal ready to begin and BAM = MJ will come back when he's ready. On his signal...and it is going to be BAM!! Can you guys think of a bigger surprise than MJ "dying?" I can! MJ coming back to life!! A hoax!! I really feel deep deep deep down in my heart that the love of my life is out there somewhere. He is not gone. I feel it. And I think he's coming back you guys.

Ch'mon...you don't think KO would put this in the film if there was no possibility. That would be cruel. He KNOWS MJ's fans are trying so hard to make sense of this. And MJ knows we are here too. That is why the clip was played at the very end. MJ knows only his truest fans would KNOW something was up and not wanna miss a thing. It was his message to US!! I truly believe it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uY_9y79I8M

P.S. Here is what Michael once said,

"I've been through hell and back. I have. And still, I'm able to do what I do. And uh, nothing can stop me. No one can stop me. No matter what. I'll stop when I'm ready to stop."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_X0d1WgVLs

I'll leave it at that. You guys can make what you want of it.
Keep the faith! I love all of you so much!

And especially you Michael. If you ever get the chance to read this, KNOW that I LOVE YOU MORE! <3

Love always,
Elizabeth <3

Butterfly J wrote:Credid goes to Kindness from michaeljackson.com. I believe she´s ok with showing it here too. She is member here too but unfortunately keeps quiet.
I think that Cassandra may be right after all and we will find our 33 clues Wht do you think?
Sweethearts, I have already seen THIS IS IT two times! (yesterday and today)).
I am excited! 100% Michael is alive, this is my opinion.
So So So many clues!
Here is the list of clues from Hoaxdeath site:
33 Clues
1. No R.I.P., no In Memoriam, no mention, no nothing.
It was as he was alive. A lot of movies has "In Memorian of…". This has nothing about it.
2. The Heal The World message at the end.
for me it's right at the end 'cause MJ knew only believers would see it till the end and would understand what he was talking about That’s a message of Hope and an Order!
3. "This is It" song at the end of the movie.
Beyond the fact that fits perfectly to the end. It give us a "flying" feeling, isnt it? It's like take a weight out of our shoulders. Then He sings "I'm the light of the world", which connects with "Light Man at the beginning" . Michael was the light, this is it, he loves us and now is our time to show him love, and be the light of the world as well.
4. Smooth Criminal movies.
The 1st is Gilda about a man who faked his own death and comes back to the revenge. And the second one is The Amazing Dr Clitterhouse a doctor who commited crime for scientific reasons (Murray!?). The song Gina sings "Blame on Mame", fits with the other movie perfectly and w/ Murray.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilda
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazin … itterhouse
5. Penguin step dance
I wondered a lot why MJ would create something so silly. Typing "penguin and love", Google comes out with this: "When a penguin finds it's mate, they stay together forever. Thus, it's the Penguin Love." Maybe MJ way to show that he loves us and that we (michael and us) will be together forever!?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p … uin%20love
6. "Let me breath in my own time"
We’ll have to wait, he must this time for him and for us. He’s preparing something big, but he has to gather strength first.
7. KO quote: "Make sure somebody will be there waiting for Michael with a flashlight".
The light at the end of the tunnel, in the darkness. It’s us. We are the ones with the flashlights showing him the way he must go so he can comeback.
8. Michael quote: "This is why we rehearse".
I think that he’s saying that this all was a rehearsal, the real thing is going to start from now…
9. Michael quote: "I have to protect my voice"
But he was always trying to give his best. The thing is, he had to protect his message, not his voice. He didn’t protected his voice, literally, but he did protected his message, leaving the Heal the World clip at the end.
10. The opening text of the movie says nothing about his death, just that "the concert never happened".
A great proof that he’s alive! No asks needed, right!?
11. Special thanks from Michael at the end.
How can a dead man make special thanks? Unless he did it before die, but why he would do special thanks for a concert? He’s alive, this is it!
12. 2012 Trailer
As I saw, everyone is talking about it. It seems that the trailer was shown all around the world (I’m on Brazil, and 2012 Trailer was there too). Only explanation: 4 years, the reason for the hoax.
13. "I’m taking you to a great adventure. There’s no need to be afraid"
Yeah, it has being a great adventure, we were scaried sometimes, and maybe will be scarier (does this word exists? ), but as great adventurers, we’ll win this and have a great and happy end.
14. Dancer quote: "I need something to shake my world and this is it"
He’s really shaking our world. We all needed that, and he did it. This is it, this woke us up and now we just have to keep ourselves awake and with wide open eyes.
15. Michael quote to Orianthi: "This is your time to shine"
Maybe just something to give her confidence, but think about "This is It" song and the Light Man at the beginning. He really meant: "This is OUR time to shine", our as believers. It’s our time to be the light of the world.
16. Michael statement about playing with audience at the Human Nature clip at the end.
He’s playing with us, but it’s for a good reason. I’m starting to believe for real that Kenny’s twitters with T.O.Y. are really meaning that we are toys. (Love 2 be Michael’s toy, though)
17. The tractor kills the little girl and MJ (at stage) and then they return at the end.
No explanations needed, does it?
18. The girl with the whole world at her hands.
Right now, Michael has the whole world at this hands. The media is the world. They say what we should wear, eat, talk, have prejudices about. When Michael comes back, he’ll bring the media down. After this, people won’t believe in anything they publish without researching. He’ll rule the world, we’ll rule the world.
19. High quality of the footages.
It was clearly pre-planned. The best way for him to spread his world more effectively than with concerts and at the same time come back later as a movie producer-director.
20. No R.I.P., no In Memorian at the CD.
Again, as if he never died! (Don’t know if this counts as Movie clues, but since it’s part of the movie…)
21. The Light Man.
As mentioned at 15, it reaffirms that "he’s the light of the world" and that we can be it too, as those showed before the light man appears were.
22. Michael quote: "We are going to show things that were never showed before"
Just can think about: there’s more to come, if it’s good or not, don’t know, but there’s something more. It couldn’t be just about the Concert or the movie.
23. Michael quote: "Be Patience".
We have to be patience, it will be hard sometimes (it has been), but he’ll be back. Faith, hope and patience, it’s all I say folks!
24. Ghost getting down the sky at Thriller end.
I dunno why only 24, but there are many more I guess... Continue searching)
And yes, please who hasn'e seen the very end of the movie, go to see THIS IS IT one more time. You'll like the scenes you'll see in the very end))
God bless you girlies))
Maria

AND IN "I JUST CANT STOP LOVING U" THERES A PART THAT ENDS WITH LOVE AND HE SAID LIES
IN BILLIE JEAN HE DIDNT SAY THE VERSE:" BECAUSE THE LIES BECOME THE TRUTH" HE JUST JUMP THAT PART BEEING QUIET.DID U NOTICE THAT?
I NOTICED THAT HE DIDNT SING ALL LYRICS IT WAS SOME PARTS HE DIDNT SING AND OTHERS CHANGE THE WORDS.
And here is an article about 33 clues:
http://derekclontz.com/2009/10/27/this-is-its-33-clues-that-prove-mj-faked-his-death-help-us-find-them/
God bless you L.O.V.E.s
Maria

city.gal1 wrote:@ lizziebee , thank you for sharing your analysis. (I missed this part of the movie, I thought the credits ended and I had to go to the bathroom so bad). I appreciate your taking the time to go through it.



Hope you feel better soon.

Thank you love. I am feeling much much better today. I ate something! Yay!! Lol. Lucky charms actually.

Thank you for reading. I appreciate it. I want to give a little hope to people. I really believe MJ gave so many messages to us in TII.
And this...at the very end? What other reason than a clue? I mean really? If it's just a few seconds of extra blabbing about the stage and music then why put it at the very end? Why make sure it is separated from everything else? You know what I mean? Gosh...this excites me so much. We love you Michael. And we are patiently and anxiously awaiting your return. <3

But...please don't blame me if i say that those words Michael said at the end seems to refer to the stage direction...what moves he has to do , how and when. Don't forget it's just rehearsals and during rehearsals all kind of stage indications are given.

lonelynation wrote:

But...please don't blame me if i say that those words Michael said at the end seems to refer to the stage direction...what moves he has to do , how and when. Don't forget it's just rehearsals and during rehearsals all kind of stage indications are given.

I guess to me I think.. if they were just stage directions, why would they put that as the 'surprise' at the end? I don't think that's some huge surprise - it's just like the rest of the movie.


Also the 33 clues part - so cool!! Thanks for posting


I totally believe he's alive, and BEG him to come back, but is it possible? Legally I mean.
I remember reading something about the Balloon boy and how they're being sued for faking legal papers or something... couldn't MJ go to jail if he were to come back? I really don't know how that part would work.

I don't know either. That's the same thing my friend was asking me last night. She said, "Why would he fake his death? You could get in trouble for that. Wouldn't he go to prison or something?" I told her I don't know. Lol. Because I really don't. But I do think he will return. And I believe he already has this planned out. It's Michael. He's always one step ahead. We need not worry. We just have to be PATIENT like he told us to do.

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But...please don't blame me if i say that those words Michael said at the end seems to refer to the stage direction...what moves he has to do , how and when. Don't forget it's just rehearsals and during rehearsals all kind of stage indications are given.

I
guess to me I think.. if they were just stage directions, why would
they put that as the 'surprise' at the end? I don't think that's some
huge surprise - it's just like the rest of the movie.

The Little White Bird wrote:

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But...please don't blame me if i say that those words Michael said at the end seems to refer to the stage direction...what moves he has to do , how and when. Don't forget it's just rehearsals and during rehearsals all kind of stage indications are given.

I
guess to me I think.. if they were just stage directions, why would
they put that as the 'surprise' at the end? I don't think that's some
huge surprise - it's just like the rest of the movie.

I completely agree. It most definately is 100% just stage direction.
"Let me breathe in my own time
(music plays, dramatic pause, takes deep breaths whilst freeze framed) like I...I'll unbutton my shirt. My jacket...waist.(thats where he puts his arms on his waist and flicks his shirt back) I'm gonna move
around a little bit, play with em.(slow-mo dancing) Snap my signal ready to begin and
BAM. (music kicks in full pelt. starts singing and spinning)"
The fact it was stuck right at the end after the credits though, is another matter altogether.

Exactly. Lol. That's probably why I did not catch it the first time while watching it in the theater.
I thought it was just another cute clip of MJ doing his thing. And a few people laughed at the way he talked about unbuttoning his shirt. But the fact that it was at the very end...empty theater except for a few people...is really strange. Like did KO watch this clip and think, "Hmm...this could mean something to somebody." or was it Michael that decided to put it there?? Either way, something is up.

LizzieBee wrote:

The Little White Bird wrote:

Quote:

But...please don't blame me if i say that those words Michael said at the end seems to refer to the stage direction...what moves he has to do , how and when. Don't forget it's just rehearsals and during rehearsals all kind of stage indications are given.

I
guess to me I think.. if they were just stage directions, why would
they put that as the 'surprise' at the end? I don't think that's some
huge surprise - it's just like the rest of the movie.

I completely agree. It most definately is 100% just stage direction.
"Let me breathe in my own time
(music plays, dramatic pause, takes deep breaths whilst freeze framed) like I...I'll unbutton my shirt. My jacket...waist.(thats where he puts his arms on his waist and flicks his shirt back) I'm gonna move
around a little bit, play with em.(slow-mo dancing) Snap my signal ready to begin and
BAM. (music kicks in full pelt. starts singing and spinning)"
The fact it was stuck right at the end after the credits though, is another matter altogether.

Exactly. Lol. That's probably why I did not catch it the first time while watching it in the theater.
I thought it was just another cute clip of MJ doing his thing. And a few people laughed at the way he talked about unbuttoning his shirt. But the fact that it was at the very end...empty theater except for a few people...is really strange. Like did KO watch this clip and think, "Hmm...this could mean something to somebody." or was it Michael that decided to put it there?? Either way, something is up.

Exactly. Lol. That's probably why I did not catch it the first time while watching it in the theater.
I
thought it was just another cute clip of MJ doing his thing. And a few
people laughed at the way he talked about unbuttoning his shirt. But
the fact that it was at the very end...empty theater except for a few
people...is really strange. Like did KO watch this clip and think,
"Hmm...this could mean something to somebody." or was it Michael that
decided to put it there?? Either way, something is up.

lonelynation wrote:

But...please don't blame me if i say that those words Michael said at the end seems to refer to the stage direction...what moves he has to do , how and when. Don't forget it's just rehearsals and during rehearsals all kind of stage indications are given.

I guess to me I think.. if they were just stage directions, why would they put that as the 'surprise' at the end? I don't think that's some huge surprise - it's just like the rest of the movie.


Also the 33 clues part - so cool!! Thanks for posting


I totally believe he's alive, and BEG him to come back, but is it possible? Legally I mean.
I remember reading something about the Balloon boy and how they're being sued for faking legal papers or something... couldn't MJ go to jail if he were to come back? I really don't know how that part would work.

Kirsche wrote:

lonelynation wrote:

But...please don't blame me if i say that those words Michael said at the end seems to refer to the stage direction...what moves he has to do , how and when. Don't forget it's just rehearsals and during rehearsals all kind of stage indications are given.

I guess to me I think.. if they were just stage directions, why would they put that as the 'surprise' at the end? I don't think that's some huge surprise - it's just like the rest of the movie.


Also the 33 clues part - so cool!! Thanks for posting


I totally believe he's alive, and BEG him to come back, but is it possible? Legally I mean.
I remember reading something about the Balloon boy and how they're being sued for faking legal papers or something... couldn't MJ go to jail if he were to come back? I really don't know how that part would work.

but why should he be sued for that? He did nothing illegal. It was not Michael Joe Jackson on the death certificate, it was Michael Joseph Jackson...No doctor signed this it was la toya. He did not fraud the insurance or the state because the memorial and the funeral were paid by his "estate". So...nothing illegal, right?

Hmm...I guess you're right. See, that's what I was thinking. I know MJ would already have something planned. Hehe. He's so smart. Smarter than the world thinks. He would have made some type of loop hole or something. Planned it so that no one would end up in trouble.