Dave Dave Addresses The Hoax

by illusionist Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:36 am

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by WanaBstartnSthn Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:38 am

I can't make heads or tails of this. Dave Dave Addresses The Hoax Icon_bounce

by ilprincipe Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:48 am

I don't get the intension...English is not my 1st language....
Dave Dave denies the hoax, right?
and Illusionist makes some kind of smiley after his link....
so it's a good sign?

Can anybody explain more exactly? Thank you

by Rach Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:51 am

ilprincipe wrote:I don't get the intension...English is not my 1st language....
Dave Dave denies the hoax, right?
and Illusionist makes some kind of smiley after his link....
so it's a good sign?

Can anybody explain more exactly? Thank you

He said that there has been speculation of a hoax and that it isn't true and Michael is really gone. He then said that he lost a great friend and the children a Father and we need to be respectful of this.

He then mentioned that "erroneous" claims have been made. I don't know what he means by this.

Hope that helps Smile

by mjgirl86 Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:52 am

Yeah... seems he's against the hoax. For him, Michael is gone.. that's how he put it. Hmm..

by illusionist Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:55 am

ilprincipe wrote:I don't get the intension...English is not my 1st language....
Dave Dave denies the hoax, right?
and Illusionist makes some kind of smiley after his link....
so it's a good sign?

Can anybody explain more exactly? Thank you

It's because I'm suspicious of everything and everyone.

Plus I like the sunglasses smilie Dave Dave Addresses The Hoax Icon_cool

by 4evermichael71 Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:56 am

mjgirl86 wrote:Yeah... seems he's against the hoax. For him, Michael is gone.. that's how he put it. Hmm..

If he is in on it, he'll protect Michael at whatever cost. If he's not, then we are lunatics ready for the asylum and he's hurting and missing his friend because he does believe Michael is gone.

by giannip Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:59 am

"This particular hoax is just a hoax". Even if the entire message seems to make us think he's not believing the hoax, this first part of his post could be interpreted as "there is no hoax" but also as "this death hoax is nothing more than a hoax" and so this could mean that the hoax goes beyond the "death part" and there's more...
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by lovelidae Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:00 pm

Ummm...to be totally honest, I really don't understand Dave Dave. He speaks cryptically, he posts strange videos, I just don't really understand him. That's not saying that I dislike him, I don't even know him. I know his story, watched his movie, and my heart goes out to him. So I guess I should stay mum on this.

by Human_nature Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:00 pm

Well, what I understand in his message is Michael is really dead, and the hoax..is the hoax itself. So..the hoax theory is a hoax.

well...hope you understand what I mean and how I see his message....

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by juliet Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:00 pm

Why are these supposed to be friends of Michael all of a sudden coming out and putting us down. It's been a little over 4 months already and they never said anything before, unless it's a paid(IMO) interview. Do they have to carry on their drama all the way.

I don't believe these people, they used Michael before and I don't even trust what they are saying now. Maybe they need their human ATM to remit some $$$$ and they get their resources from some other people in exchange for what?

Doubt comes in when people put down people. As I said Nature has a way with things and when all the truth will come out in the open, which is soon, they should all get ready for making use of Michael and hide because Michael will clean the earth of all the exploiters, mONEYpulators and traitors.

Michael, my prayers are always with you and I know you're Divinely protected because of all your good deeds. I love you Michael and it hurts me that even up to this point, they haven't learned how it is to be human.

by ilprincipe Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:03 pm

Ok I got it..thanks for explaining BUT
this is a kind of justification...why does he think he needs to justify himself about this?!

a guilty conscience needs no accuser

by NYMoonwalker Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:05 pm

I honestly don't think Dave Dave would be in on the hoax. So he must truly think Michael is dead and is upset by the growing belief in this hoax theory. That is just my honest opinion.

by Rach Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:05 pm

ilprincipe wrote:Ok I got it..thanks for explaining BUT
this is a kind of justification...why does he think he needs to justify himself about this?!

a guilty conscience needs no accuser

Don't forget that DD has been drawn into the hoax as well. There are many who believe that Michael was DD on LKL.

I too think it's strange that he is speaking up now but maybe he feels the time is right?

by Human_nature Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:07 pm

Well, his message is for people who probably asked him if Michael is alive and if Michael was at LKL ....
He write he received many supportive messages from fans, but it's hard for him, he need some space..to grieve..something like that.

by 4evermichael71 Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:10 pm

Rach wrote:
ilprincipe wrote:Ok I got it..thanks for explaining BUT
this is a kind of justification...why does he think he needs to justify himself about this?!

a guilty conscience needs no accuser

Don't forget that DD has been drawn into the hoax as well. There are many who believe that Michael was DD on LKL.

I too think it's strange that he is speaking up now but maybe he feels the time is right?

I agree with you. Personally I think he is in on it mainly because of the LKL thing.

by juliet Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:11 pm

Well, let's give it a few days more and the wind will blow it some other way.

by ishealive Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:17 pm

Human_nature wrote:Well, what I understand in his message is Michael is really dead, and the hoax..is the hoax itself. So..the hoax theory is a hoax.

well...hope you understand what I mean and how I see his message....

Lol I understand perfectly well - crystal clear Dave Dave Addresses The Hoax Icon_scratch

by WanaBstartnSthn Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:18 pm

Rach wrote:
ilprincipe wrote:I don't get the intension...English is not my 1st language....
Dave Dave denies the hoax, right?
and Illusionist makes some kind of smiley after his link....
so it's a good sign?

Can anybody explain more exactly? Thank you

He said that there has been speculation of a hoax and that it isn't true and Michael is really gone. He then said that he lost a great friend and the children a Father and we need to be respectful of this.

He then mentioned that "erroneous" claims have been made. I don't know what he means by this.

Hope that helps

Rach I'm thinking this :

If you ask me, the statement that about the erroneous claims like it could be coming from Michael. Maybe regarding all the recent things that have been said about him? Ie; all these ridiculous lawsuits coming out now that he is "dead"? They are all from his "past". I mean think about it, really, who in Dave Dave's life has been making "erroneous claims" about him that the general public or his "myspace friends" would even know about? Really! Dave Dave doesn't even go into detail at all about what he means by this. He's very vague. "CLAIMS" think "CLAIMS" like "LAWSUIT CLAIMS"…like TMZ says, I'm "just sayin"….

by lonelynation Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:23 pm

I really don't know how to feel about this.
I had this overwhelming sadness when I started reading this thread - that Dave Dave was denying it so adamantly. So either..

1. Michael was dressed as Dave Dave on Larry King, and Dave Dave is denying it.

2. Dave Dave was never filled in on the hoax (I don't see why MJ would.. he can only tell so many people and I don't think Dave would have anything that would help MJ)

3. He really is gone and Dave is tired of hearing people like us saying otherwise.

by Rach Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:26 pm

WanaBstartnSthn wrote:Rach I'm thinking this :

If you ask me, the statement that about the erroneous claims like it could be coming from Michael. Maybe regarding all the recent things that have been said about him? Ie; all these ridiculous lawsuits coming out now that he is "dead"? They are all from his "past". I mean think about it, really, who in Dave Dave's life has been making "erroneous claims" about him that the general public or his "myspace friends" would even know about? Really! Dave Dave doesn't even go into detail at all about what he means by this. He's very vague. "CLAIMS" think "CLAIMS" like "LAWSUIT CLAIMS"…like TMZ says, I'm "just sayin"….

LOL @ the TMZ quote!

I never looked at it that way before but I think it could indeed be possible. Maybe have said that Murray's message was from michael to us so this could be as well.

My first thought was that he was addressing the LKL issue but you may be onto something here Smile

by WanaBstartnSthn Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:29 pm

lonelynation wrote:I really don't know how to feel about this.
I had this overwhelming sadness when I started reading this thread - that Dave Dave was denying it so adamantly. So either..

1. Michael was dressed as Dave Dave on Larry King, and Dave Dave is denying it.

2. Dave Dave was never filled in on the hoax (I don't see why MJ would.. he can only tell so many people and I don't think Dave would have anything that would help MJ)

3. He really is gone and Dave is tired of hearing people like us saying otherwise.

I have to respectfully disagree with you my friend. Do not lose hope that Michael is alive. Dave imho is fully aware of this hoax. He has been vague, evasive, and cryptic from the very beginning. Like everyone is saying, if that was truly Dave Dave @ LKL, why for the love of God, won't Dave just come out on his blog or something and say "Yes ppl that was ME not MJ" Why does there have to be so much dancing around and clues and etc ? It could all be so simple. He doesn't even seem to take offense with ppl thinking that wasn't really him. He doesn't seem to be bothered at all with ppl picking the video apart and all that. Think about it, if he didnt know that there are so many hoax believers out there, why else would he write this latest blog?? He knows we are watching him-->he's watching us too

by MJaliveMJ Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:31 pm

What I'm really not understanding here, is why dave dave is saying that he doesn't believe in the hoax, yet he added TNZ as a friend on myspace. TNZ dedicate their myspace page to the fact that MJ faked his death. So the question is, why is dave dave friends with the death hoax people, then says that he knows MJ is dead?

I think there is more to that message and there is certainly more to Dave Dave.

by WanaBstartnSthn Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:34 pm

MJaliveMJ wrote:What I'm really not understanding here, is why dave dave is saying that he doesn't believe in the hoax, yet he added TNZ as a friend on myspace. TNZ dedicate their myspace page to the fact that MJ faked his death. So the question is, why is dave dave friends with the death hoax people, then says that he knows MJ is dead?

I think there is more to that message and there is certainly more to Dave Dave.

EXACTLY!!!!! Dave Dave Addresses The Hoax Icon_biggrin

I seriously feel this is some type of message from Mr Michael

by Grace Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:34 pm

They still are buying time for Michael.
That's why they are acting not straight but confusing.
That's their role - support Michael in not allowing anybody to trace and nail him down.

by hAZZELY Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:40 pm

Rach wrote:
ilprincipe wrote:I don't get the intension...English is not my 1st language....
Dave Dave denies the hoax, right?
and Illusionist makes some kind of smiley after his link....
so it's a good sign?

Can anybody explain more exactly? Thank you

He said that there has been speculation of a hoax and that it isn't true and Michael is really gone. He then said that he lost a great friend and the children a Father and we need to be respectful of this.

He then mentioned that "erroneous" claims have been made. I don't know what he means by this.

Hope that helps

Maybe the threads about the speculation of Michael being Dave Dave at LK?

by Harleyblonde Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:43 pm

I think the erroneous claims he mentioned may be the fact that when he appears on film there are those who say it is Michael in disguise, he must be well aware of this and if I were him I would be deeply hurt. Why on earth would Michael appear on film in disguise of a dear friend who he had known for years who was a burns victim? What would be the point? This is not some game or prank.I think this is something Michael would not even consider.
I also think that Dave Dave will not be aware of the hoax. How many people had Michael befriended years ago and they stood by him? Not a great number but quite a few and for the hoax to be effective the least people in on it the better and in order for him to pull it off people would have to be hurt. Imagine MJ thinking "well it must be a secret but I will just tell Mcauley, Dave and Liza Minnelli, oh and yes there is David Guest and LMP will be upset so I better tell her, oh and there is David Blaine etc etc." See what I mean? he would have to draw the line somewhere. I think Dave is grieving deeply which is what we would be doing if we didn't believe in the hoax.

by giannip Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:53 pm

Harleyblonde wrote:
I also think that Dave Dave will not be aware of the hoax. How many people had Michael befriended years ago and they stood by him? Not a great number but quite a few and for the hoax to be effective the least people in on it the better and in order for him to pull it off people would have to be hurt. Imagine MJ thinking "well it must be a secret but I will just tell Mcauley, Dave and Liza Minnelli, oh and yes there is David Guest and LMP will be upset so I better tell her, oh and there is David Blaine etc etc." See what I mean? he would have to draw the line somewhere. I think Dave is grieving deeply which is what we would be doing if we didn't believe in the hoax.

By not considering DD part of the hoax we are (I think that too) also sayng that there were no staged funeral. If you remember Dave Dave was there too and if something would have happened there he now would know about it.
However I agree. It'd be too risky if even simple friends would know the truth (the hoax). If a hoax is, is just known by the family and a few more.

by city.gal1 Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:57 pm

[quote="WanaBstartnSthn"][quote="Rach"]

ilprincipe wrote:
Rach I'm thinking this :

If you ask me, the statement that about the erroneous claims like it could be coming from Michael. Maybe regarding all the recent things that have been said about him? Ie; all these ridiculous lawsuits coming out now that he is "dead"? They are all from his "past". I mean think about it, really, who in Dave Dave's life has been making "erroneous claims" about him that the general public or his "myspace friends" would even know about? Really! Dave Dave doesn't even go into detail at all about what he means by this. He's very vague. "CLAIMS" think "CLAIMS" like "LAWSUIT CLAIMS"…like TMZ says, I'm "just sayin"….

This is an interesting take on it, possible.

by gigi Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:57 pm

Sorry if this offends anyone, but does anyone think the fact it was posted today - Halloween - might be relevant
i.e. MJ in disguise as Dave Dave

by MJFOREVER Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:03 pm

I dont know why he posted that little story,

He want poeple to respect all that has happend but you are starting with the story yourself?
I mean if it's not true why would you give it attention and write about it??
Now more people are gonna read it and maybe gonna do some research and believe this is realy a HOAX? CAUSE THE WHOLE STORY DOESNT FITTTTTTTTTT Wink

by ishealive Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:05 pm

gigi wrote:Sorry if this offends anyone, but does anyone think the fact it was posted today - Halloween - might be relevant
i.e. MJ in disguise as Dave Dave

Halloween is MJ's favourite holiday Wink

by gigi Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:11 pm

ishealive wrote:
gigi wrote:Sorry if this offends anyone, but does anyone think the fact it was posted today - Halloween - might be relevant
i.e. MJ in disguise as Dave Dave

Halloween is MJ's favourite holiday

Interesting ishealive! I wondered about the timing of the release of TII over Halloween weekend. I wonder if we will have any other 'messages' from other sources today!

by WanaBstartnSthn Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:11 pm

ishealive wrote:
gigi wrote:Sorry if this offends anyone, but does anyone think the fact it was posted today - Halloween - might be relevant
i.e. MJ in disguise as Dave Dave

Halloween is MJ's favourite holiday

I definitely think it's got something to do with Halloween! think about it, "Dave Dave" was on LKL Almost 3 months ago, the date of the "burial", and we've been talking about this possible Michael as Dave Dave on LKL thing ever since then, and he's JUST NOW choosing to address the issue of the hoax? Why today, on Halloween? Why not a month ago? Last week? Yesterday? Tomorrow? Why October 31st? Hmmm....

by MJFOREVER Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:13 pm

So this weekend it's Halloween??maybe a dumb question but we dont have halloween in holland so Embarassed

by WanaBstartnSthn Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:16 pm

I say we'd better keep our eyes peeled tonight and not let the all the Halloween hype and candy cloud our judgement and get in the way of our investigative senses because I think we may get a lot of clues/info today....

by Harleyblonde Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:16 pm

giannip wrote:
Harleyblonde wrote:
I also think that Dave Dave will not be aware of the hoax. How many people had Michael befriended years ago and they stood by him? Not a great number but quite a few and for the hoax to be effective the least people in on it the better and in order for him to pull it off people would have to be hurt. Imagine MJ thinking "well it must be a secret but I will just tell Mcauley, Dave and Liza Minnelli, oh and yes there is David Guest and LMP will be upset so I better tell her, oh and there is David Blaine etc etc." See what I mean? he would have to draw the line somewhere. I think Dave is grieving deeply which is what we would be doing if we didn't believe in the hoax.

By not considering DD part of the hoax we are (I think that too) also sayng that there were no staged funeral. If you remember Dave Dave was there too and if something would have happened there he now would know about it.
However I agree. It'd be too risky if even simple friends would know the truth (the hoax). If a hoax is, is just known by the family and a few more.

Yes, I do not what you are saying and I dont want to appear disagreeable as I like your posts but just because Dave Dave was unaware and attended the funeral doesn't mean it wasn't staged. I dont know what you mean by "staged" as I think in order for the hoax to work there would be a funeral as we saw but a great many of the guests would think the body of Michael was in the casket. I cannot explain the moving trees etc, i think only the Jacksons can explain that as they only released what film of the funeral they they wanted us to see and no more, in fact they were acting as if the safe that held the crown jewels and the combination lock was not to be revealed. I think apart from a handful of mourners at the funeral, (the family and possibly Elizabeth Taylor and Kenny) then all would have been unaware of the hoax. They had to have a realistic seeming funeral as part of the hoax, I could be wrong but I think the burial film was edited.

by EarthAngel90 Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:20 pm

Dave Dave is trying to fool us ... I am not buying that mess for the life of me ... seriously ....

by giannip Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:39 pm

Harleyblonde wrote:
giannip wrote:

By not considering DD part of the hoax we are (I think that too) also sayng that there were no staged funeral. If you remember Dave Dave was there too and if something would have happened there he now would know about it.
However I agree. It'd be too risky if even simple friends would know the truth (the hoax). If a hoax is, is just known by the family and a few more.

Yes, I do not what you are saying and I dont want to appear disagreeable as I like your posts but just because Dave Dave was unaware and attended the funeral doesn't mean it wasn't staged. I dont know what you mean by "staged" as I think in order for the hoax to work there would be a funeral as we saw but a great many of the guests would think the body of Michael was in the casket. I cannot explain the moving trees etc, i think only the Jacksons can explain that as they only released what film of the funeral they they wanted us to see and no more, in fact they were acting as if the safe that held the crown jewels and the combination lock was not to be revealed. I think apart from a handful of mourners at the funeral, (the family and possibly Elizabeth Taylor and Kenny) then all would have been unaware of the hoax. They had to have a realistic seeming funeral as part of the hoax, I could be wrong but I think the burial film was edited.

Sorry for not being clear. I am italian and english is not my first language. Sometimes, when in a hurry, I also miss some commas Very Happy

What i meant is just that if DD is unaware of the hoax, nothing that we suppose it would have happened at the funeral (all the people addressing to micheal as the old guy with the hat or the ladies waving at him, the others calling him etc..) have really happened: DD, that was there, would have noticed everything. I hope that the message is clearer now: if DD is really thinking that MJ is dead, well there was no hint of the opposite at the funeral (as he was there and would have noticed) and part of our theory and all the videos referring to the funeral as a collective acting, are wrong.
But I am happy as if DD is not part of the hoax and nothing was shown at the funeral that's good, because it means that a lot of friends and important people are officially unaware of it and MJ's secret can be considered safe enough to be true, while with more people being involved his secret (the hoax) would be at high risk.

by Butterfly J Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:50 pm

Someone is holding us exat the middle of confusion. It´s not the time jet to prevail the truth so they have to keep us confused, we can not lose hope but we also cannot know the thruth. That´s why so many contradictional statements - they all may come from one source - MJ.
Hope you know what I mean:)

by WanaBstartnSthn Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:54 pm

Remember this one thing guys: Michael is handling this. He knows what he is doing. If he wasn't carrying out this hoax properly, we would have discovered the truth by now! What happens? We go back and forth depending on what day it is. Some days we are convinced he's here other days we can't be sure, we don't know what to think. Then we come up on something new and we believe again! That's what a good hoax does. Michael is always a step or two ahead of us. He has to be. When he wants this to be revealed completely, it will be...Michael said at the end of TII, "Give me all your endurance, patience and understanding..."...Trust in him.

by WanaBstartnSthn Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:05 pm

Harleyblonde wrote:I think the erroneous claims he mentioned may be the fact that when he appears on film there are those who say it is Michael in disguise, he must be well aware of this and if I were him I would be deeply hurt. Why on earth would Michael appear on film in disguise of a dear friend who he had known for years who was a burns victim? What would be the point? This is not some game or prank.I think this is something Michael would not even consider.
I also think that Dave Dave will not be aware of the hoax. How many people had Michael befriended years ago and they stood by him? Not a great number but quite a few and for the hoax to be effective the least people in on it the better and in order for him to pull it off people would have to be hurt. Imagine MJ thinking "well it must be a secret but I will just tell Mcauley, Dave and Liza Minnelli, oh and yes there is David Guest and LMP will be upset so I better tell her, oh and there is David Blaine etc etc." See what I mean? he would have to draw the line somewhere. I think Dave is grieving deeply which is what we would be doing if we didn't believe in the hoax.

I kinda find it hard to comprehend how DD can be talking about the erroneous claims being about him not really being at LKL because he says "There have also been some people who are out there from my past that are making all sorts of erroneous claims." What people? So far, the only ones that have been discussing the possibility of MJ being DAVE DAVE @ LKL is the hoax believers. We aren't apart of Dave Daves's "past".

But who did have lots of people from their "past" coming forward making "erroneous claims" about him?

Mj's old lawyers
Mj's former manager
Mj's former hairstylis
Mj's former security
Mj's former choreographer
Mj's old accounting firm

I think you get the idea.

So I'm sorry but that just doesnt really make much sense to me. Like I said, I feel like this is sort of a message coming from Michael just like some felt Dr Murray's youtube video was a message from Michael. That's just my opinion.

by Eva R Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:07 pm

I think he is just helping Michael. Maybe Michael doesn't wants to come back YET, and that people already are believing he is alive. Maybe Michael doesn't want people to think he is alive already, maybe he really wants to surprise people. Like in the movie after the credits: Snap my signal ready to begin and BAM!

Or it is just the king himselve at Myspace Razz

by p92gr33n5 Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:26 pm

i may be able to explain the people from the past bit ,4 days ago someone called davesfriend1 left a comment on lkl dd on you tube he said he was dave daves friend he met him in 97 vacationed with him this year he said that dd used to talk on the phone all night to michael and that he had michaels old cell phone .the funny thing is he said he thought all this hoax stuff was bull s but after phoning dd a funny voice answered and he felt like he was talking to michael because he can do these machine voices.so i went to his channel because i thought he was lying but on his channel was a photo of him dave dave and another guy ,i left him a message and asked for dave daves phone number .that was 4 days ago if you want to see his comment scroll down on the lkl dd vid on youtube 4 days and look for davesfriend1 .the funny thing now is he has deleted his account in the last day or so .click on his name and you'll see.i'm sorry i don't know how to do links and stuff, i really feel that daves daves message is refering to this guy.

by WanaBstartnSthn Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:39 pm

Ok, so lets say you are right about Dave Dave talking about this ONE guy. Why would Dave say "people" from past are making "claims" if in reality, only ONE guy is making A claim? Why is Dave Dave acting as if his character is suddenly being attacked if only one person had says something about him, which many of us have probably not heard of btw?

by p92gr33n5 Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:09 pm

do you know what i only come on here to let you know whats going on ,you may not of heard of this guy on here but i know a few people on you tube that know of this guys account as i spread it to the people i write to on you tube days ago,like you we have our own little crowd too on there.You probably havent even gone and read the message so you don't know everthing it's claiming,i can see that this is somekind of clan site and obviously what i say don't matter so i think i'll stick to my own. I thought this forum was for everyone trying to find out whats happened to michael .i try to help and all i get cockyness so i'll stick to my own BTW.

by WanaBstartnSthn Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:16 pm

p92gr33n5 wrote:do you know what i only come on here to let you know whats going on ,you may not of heard of this guy on here but i know a few people on you tube that know of this guys account as i spread it to the people i write to on you tube days ago,like you we have our own little crowd too on there.You probably havent even gone and read the message so you don't know everthing it's claiming,i can see that this is somekind of clan site and obviously what i say don't matter so i think i'll stick to my own. I thought this forum was for everyone trying to find out whats happened to michael .i try to help and all i get cockyness so i'll stick to my own BTW.

Ok don't get snippy ok I wasn't calling you a liar and I'm not implying that you can't be onto something. The whole point is to challenge ideas if we question something. If you can't handle it then I'm sorry for you but I wasn't trying to come off as cocky and no one here said you can't post your findings and for your info I did look at what you were talking about on youtube and I am entitled to my own opinion as you are entitled to urs.

by Janet77 Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:01 pm

Handsome evening,I I think,that perhaps select be true to type opinion unchanging.Somebody me said,that Michael anorexy and that Sony cosh-boy.I I don't know,but in film looked absolutely healthy,but all is possible.It,he should she wanted Sony kill Michael Jackson those would also believe,but up so much flight vengeance?Somebody again says,that Michael slain long way once,but those would then discredit at all,because yourself I cannot present,he should children live with double and they doesn't know his father's.Up look down upon film be taken aback.I seem,that film was largely wind like demonstrative gesture and in songs which sings it indicate also finger,when him turn round round about and has such pressing expression in cheek,withal Michael it there also says and I think,that us wanted communicate message and at the end Michael says,that largely is film for his little ones.Why with leave-taking with families in songs I´II´Be There-enumerate there all family member,but in originalu songs pronounce other names except his brother.Originally MICHAEL practise on concert as far as I know,he yet couldn't know,that with will wind some film,so why of such speech?this me just at the moment recruit into thereof,that had to forge death from capital reason,but is me peliculiar,that here let children,well he'd without they ,but again is truth,he should was suspected,if children were him,when is official declaration under dead.It'd with paparazzi after that,where they are children and everything would crack.Suppose too,that those what knows,that Michael lives and it is only family,children,Kenny Ortega and Elizabeth Taylor have from Michael Jackson instructions what a interwiu do and what there speak and alike.Children,which us they are yourself I think,that they are MJ,that it there're not double.In film me stop it date from taking,how there Ortega says:"make light and what is today at at that we've everyone day-light?"then catch on cameras and was there date 4.September ,whether am then well vision and at once with there discover Michael,indeed perhaps it wasn't double.When Michael dance so be the side he was at once A and B double,but it was cut,but in one moment went Michael from wonder down and at once there went double,so it couldn't exist cut.Then am yourself notice another date 10.November,when camera occupy beyond seat.Then there something Michael I think he said about air-hostess and pronounce always Gottem.What me embarrass how there Michael talk of rock 2012 and that thereon we've 4 years.It is perhaps in continuity with our planet land?I reading,that doomsday has set in 21.12 2012 base Nostradamuse,somewhere writes,that already 12.12 2012.And when missis Taylor speak,that we've take Michael Jackson lyric really so it with like on our land drive asteroid and or it is thought so,that Michael lie heavy like boulder at heart?Go to him then about life? and or about what it then go?
Too is special I yourself buy books about Michael Jackson and there on parties 135 is photo from memorialu,where on wonder state everyone brothers MJ and doesn't know they state person in white shirt and before them is coffin,in which would had lie Michael?And then another photo,where Jarmane sings Smile and be the side on step,up which with it's getting wonder,sit too some man.who it is?it is perhaps in both case Michael?Respond me somebody, or hallucinate?:-)

by neverlandprincess Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:07 pm

Rach wrote:
ilprincipe wrote:I don't get the intension...English is not my 1st language....
Dave Dave denies the hoax, right?
and Illusionist makes some kind of smiley after his link....
so it's a good sign?

Can anybody explain more exactly? Thank you

He said that there has been speculation of a hoax and that it isn't true and Michael is really gone. He then said that he lost a great friend and the children a Father and we need to be respectful of this.

He then mentioned that "erroneous" claims have been made. I don't know what he means by this.

Hope that helps

He probably means the claims that some hoax believers have made that Michael is in disguise as him?

by ydnask1 Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:29 pm

If you look real close to Dave Dave you will see faintly eyebrow arches under that make up. Dave Dave eyebrows are rounded. Look at the eyeliner around his eyes. Exactly where Michael had his tattooed. Matches perfectly. Michael said "um" alot and so does Dave. Check out his lip color.
Something isnt right. Why would Dave be hanging out with Miko? Why does Larry King only show two pics of Dave over and over.
If Michael and him were such good friends then wouldnt there be more pictures? Look at his eyebrows and eyeliner. Look good.
The voice matches pretty darn good.
I have been a fan of Michael for 42 years. I am 52 and I'm not stupid. Any true fan of MJ knows his face, body movements and voice.

Why would Dave Dave come on Larry King anyway? Why now? Why not someone a little closer...like Miko did?
I feel Michael is alive for so many reasons. One is the lyrics to too many songs like 'Privacy' and 'Threatened'...
Things are just to wierd with this case. Too many oddities.

Michael is the Master of Disguises. He's a genious and tough. He had the courage to stand up against Sony etc and I just cant see Michael being gullible enough to let someone kill him. He didnt want to die, but he did want his Privacy.

No one saw a body...thats a fact. So until I see a body I will forever believe he had the power to disappear. Giving the media a really good story.
Who was the guy in the hat at the memorial? Was the cane he held a microphone so he could say the spoken words of 'Will you be there'?..afterall he did say pains instead of pain. Did he say that on purpose? Was it prerecorded earlier sometime? I have never heard that version. He always said pain.

I believe
There is just too much in his songs lyrics to make me not believe.
I didnt see a body. Even Joe Jackson was asked by Larry King "do you know where Michael is? (this after he was supposedly put in Forest Lawn), and Joe said he didnt know?

Very odd
Well we should have hope instead of putting Michael out so soon. Too many clues. All of them probably from Michael for his fans.

If he is gone....RIP Michael...I love you.
But if he isnt gone...Greatest show on earth. Best Final Curtain Call of all time. We are still here Michael. I will be there.

Maybe June of 2010 in London..............We just wait and see if he surfaces.
A fan.....

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