Re: Dave Dave Addresses The Hoax

by Red Velvet Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:28 am

ok read the thread, deleted repeated nevermind Laughing

by 4evermichael71 Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:28 am

WanaBstartnSthn wrote:
ishealive wrote:
gigi wrote:Sorry if this offends anyone, but does anyone think the fact it was posted today - Halloween - might be relevant
i.e. MJ in disguise as Dave Dave

Halloween is MJ's favourite holiday

I definitely think it's got something to do with Halloween! think about it, "Dave Dave" was on LKL Almost 3 months ago, the date of the "burial", and we've been talking about this possible Michael as Dave Dave on LKL thing ever since then, and he's JUST NOW choosing to address the issue of the hoax? Why today, on Halloween? Why not a month ago? Last week? Yesterday? Tomorrow? Why October 31st? Hmmm....

This reminded me of an interview Michael did where he said he LOVES Halloween. He loves dressing up and going trick-or-treating and no one knows it's him. I wonder if he went last night Wink

by 4evermichael71 Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:33 am

Butterfly J wrote:Someone is holding us exat the middle of confusion. It´s not the time jet to prevail the truth so they have to keep us confused, we can not lose hope but we also cannot know the thruth. That´s why so many contradictional statements - they all may come from one source - MJ.
Hope you know what I mean:)

I agree, and ok, maybe I'm paranoid and still spooked from the ghost walk I went on last night LOL but..did you ever notice when we get so close, as if we're almost there, something is thrown at us. something to make us second guess ourselves and wonder if we're even headed in the right direction...There was a song out years ago "Things That Make You Go Hmmm" This is one of those things LOL It wasn't a Michael song, C&C Music Factory I believe but I digress LOL..

by ydnask1 Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:29 am

Did anyone take into consideration what I had written? Did anyone compare the eyeliner? The eyebrows?
Just curious
He is alive because no other entertainer had this kind of fall out.
When they died everything moved on as ususal.
But not Mikes death...oh no...
This is something like he would do....Drastic yes, but still Michael has very good reason to do this.
To keep it going if...only if he is alive is just more proof.
Love this site

AND....................its not just DD either...its hundreds of other things like the man in the Fedora...........

Please respond someone or am I writing to the wind?

by ydnask1 Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:31 am

Could someone give me Dave Dave's myspace url? I would appreciate it.
Thank you all.

by hAZZELY Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:54 am

ydnask1 wrote:Could someone give me Dave Dave's myspace url? I would appreciate it.
Thank you all.

http://blogs.myspace.com/daevdaev

by WanaBstartnSthn Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:59 am

ydnask1 wrote:Did anyone take into consideration what I had written? Did anyone compare the eyeliner? The eyebrows?
Just curious
He is alive because no other entertainer had this kind of fall out.
When they died everything moved on as ususal.
But not Mikes death...oh no...
This is something like he would do....Drastic yes, but still Michael has very good reason to do this.
To keep it going if...only if he is alive is just more proof.
Love this site

AND....................its not just DD either...its hundreds of other things like the man in the Fedora...........

Please respond someone or am I writing to the wind?

Dont worry I read what you said. Your words havent fallen on blind eyes lol. You're right about the eyeliner I havent gotten a chance to examine the eyebrow situation but the eyeliner just sticks out at you so much during the LKL interview. You could clearly tell he's wearing it. I hate when ppl say "Michael would never pretend to be Dave Dave" because I've already said it before-we do not know what Michael is capable of doing! We just don't! Period!

by GirlSaturday Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:19 pm

The erroneous claim could be the MJ disguised himself as DD. Dave Dave Addresses The Hoax - Page 2 Icon_scratch

Rach wrote:
ilprincipe wrote:I don't get the intension...English is not my 1st language....
Dave Dave denies the hoax, right?
and Illusionist makes some kind of smiley after his link....
so it's a good sign?

Can anybody explain more exactly? Thank you

He said that there has been speculation of a hoax and that it isn't true and Michael is really gone. He then said that he lost a great friend and the children a Father and we need to be respectful of this.

He then mentioned that "erroneous" claims have been made. I don't know what he means by this.

Hope that helps

by GirlSaturday Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:24 pm

Let the church say...amen. Dave Dave Addresses The Hoax - Page 2 Icon_lol

WanaBstartnSthn wrote:
ydnask1 wrote:Did anyone take into consideration what I had written? Did anyone compare the eyeliner? The eyebrows?
Just curious
He is alive because no other entertainer had this kind of fall out.
When they died everything moved on as ususal.
But not Mikes death...oh no...
This is something like he would do....Drastic yes, but still Michael has very good reason to do this.
To keep it going if...only if he is alive is just more proof.
Love this site

AND....................its not just DD either...its hundreds of other things like the man in the Fedora...........

Please respond someone or am I writing to the wind?

Dont worry I read what you said. Your words havent fallen on blind eyes lol. You're right about the eyeliner I havent gotten a chance to examine the eyebrow situation but the eyeliner just sticks out at you so much during the LKL interview. You could clearly tell he's wearing it. I hate when ppl say "Michael would never pretend to be Dave Dave" because I've already said it before-we do not know what Michael is capable of doing! We just don't! Period!

by WanaBstartnSthn Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:35 pm

Update: Dave Dave just changed his Myspace quote back to "follow the yellow brick road" Hmm...

by ydnask1 Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:36 pm

Thank you my friend.
I know you are busy....Awesome you wrote me back.
Hugs to all

by ydnask1 Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:39 pm

Thank you for the address.
Hugs
Love you Michael

by 4evermichael71 Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:00 pm

WanaBstartnSthn wrote:Update: Dave Dave just changed his Myspace quote back to "follow the yellow brick road" Hmm...

by tyffanny Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:02 pm

Hey I just have a question regarding Dave Dave ... Does anyone ever got a private message from him or tried to contact him on myspace and did have an answer?
Thankyou soo much for your help Smile

by Sweet1 Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:42 pm

This is getting more bizzare everyday. Since LKL interview he hasn't said a word now suddenly he feels the desire to speak. I wouldn't believe anything he said anyway. He's playing on words. I agree that he must be feeling guilty. Keep the Faith!

4evermichael71 wrote:
Rach wrote:
ilprincipe wrote:Ok I got it..thanks for explaining BUT
this is a kind of justification...why does he think he needs to justify himself about this?!

a guilty conscience needs no accuser

Don't forget that DD has been drawn into the hoax as well. There are many who believe that Michael was DD on LKL.

I too think it's strange that he is speaking up now but maybe he feels the time is right?

I agree with you. Personally I think he is in on it mainly because of the LKL thing.

by lonelynation Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:53 pm

Update: Dave Dave just changed his Myspace quote back to "follow the yellow brick road" Hmm...

The Wizzzzz

Pick your left foot up, when your right foots down
Come on lets keep moving and don't you lose the ground
You just keep on Keepin' on the road that you choose
Don't you give up walking cause you gave up shoes

Ease on down, Ease on down the road (come on)
Ease on down, Ease on down the road
Don't you carry nothing that might be a load
Come on
Ease on down, Ease on down, down the road

Cause there may be times when you think you lost your mind
And the steps you're taking leave you three four steps behind
But the road you're walking might be long sometimes
You just keep on stepping and you'll be just fine (yeah)

Ease on down, Ease on down the road (ease on down)
Ease on down, Ease on down the road (ease on down)
Don't you carry nothing that might be a load
Come on
Ease on down, Ease on down, down the....

For there may be times, when you wish you wasn't born
And you wake one morning just to find your courage gone
but you know that feeling only last a little while
you just stick with us we'll show you how to smile (yeah)

by nellyka7 Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:14 pm

can someone please post the link of Dave Dave on LKL?

by lonelynation Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:28 pm

by lonelynation Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:32 pm

QUESTION
Interesting comment I read posted on that Dave Dave video..

I called yesterday morning at Forest Lawn. I said call from a Michael Jackson fan club in Spain and we want to send a bouquet of flowers to the tomb.lady who answered said it was not Michael Jackson's tomb there.

Is there anyway someone on this forum could do the same?? To double check?

by nellyka7 Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:26 pm

@ Rach.. I think you're right. after seeing the movie I looked at Murray's message again and it does sound like something Michael would have said to us. Some have even stated that Michael is Murray- but thats a whole other story.

WanaBstartnSthn wrote:

I kinda find it hard to comprehend how DD can be talking about the erroneous claims being about him not really being at LKL because he says "There have also been some people who are out there from my past that are making all sorts of erroneous claims." What people? So far, the only ones that have been discussing the possibility of MJ being DAVE DAVE @ LKL is the hoax believers. We aren't apart of Dave Daves's "past".

But who did have lots of people from their "past" coming forward making "erroneous claims" about him?

Mj's old lawyers
Mj's former manager
Mj's former hairstylis
Mj's former security
Mj's former choreographer
Mj's old accounting firm

I think you get the idea.

So I'm sorry but that just doesnt really make much sense to me. Like I said, I feel like this is sort of a message coming from Michael just like some felt Dr Murray's youtube video was a message from Michael. That's just my opinion.

I couldn't agree more! Now that really makes sense especially with all these suits and body guards coming out and claiming that Michael owes them money. Also, ]if Dave Dave is active on his blog, it would make sense for him to come out on his own and say that, that was truly him and not MJ and that MJ is dead. However, if he did that may make things a little obvious. Like Maybe he would be trying too hard to convince us- and I don’t think that’s what MJ wants. I think he wants us to figure out the truth about his death, but all in time- not right away.

Oh yeah, something just went off in my head. Does anyone remember hearing that a clue was supposed to be shown on November 1st, the day after Halloween? I am not exactly sure where I read about it (probably on MJHD forums) but they stated MJ was going to be present at some type of gathering to help promote something with children but in a disguise and that it would be 8 letters. And the fact that this video was released on the 31st just clears everything up. I have searched and searched and I don't believe TMZ has reported it because it was right in front of our faces. Dave Dave=8 letters! What do you all think?

by infinitylady Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:13 pm

4evermichael71: That song is by C & C Music Factory. You were right. That dude had a nice body. LOL! Dave Dave Addresses The Hoax - Page 2 Lol

<--- I just thought I would have to throw that in there.

by infinitylady Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:25 pm

lonelynation:

Interesting comment I read posted on that Dave Dave video..

</SPAN>
Quote:
I called yesterday morning at Forest Lawn. I said call from a Michael Jackson fan club in Spain and we want to send a bouquet of flowers to the tomb.lady who answered said it was not Michael Jackson's tomb there.

Is there anyway someone on this forum could do the same?? To double check?

WHAT????!!!

by Eva R Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:29 pm

OMG!! Well, I wanna call but I am bit younge and I am dutch so I don't think that is a good idea Razz

someone else?? Smile

by nellyka7 Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:29 pm

infinitylady wrote:lonelynation:
Interesting comment I read posted on that Dave Dave video..

</SPAN>
Quote:
I called yesterday morning at Forest Lawn. I said call from a Michael Jackson fan club in Spain and we want to send a bouquet of flowers to the tomb.lady who answered said it was not Michael Jackson's tomb there.

Is there anyway someone on this forum could do the same?? To double check?

WHAT????!!!

well, one, she could be told to say that so the company is not in any danger regarding fans or two, it could be true. i hope its number two. [:

by infinitylady Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:31 pm

Speaking on Dave Dave why would he wait all this time really to talk about this? Look how long this has been going around at this point?

by lonelynation Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:35 pm

I really think someone should call..
Is there someone in that area?
It would charge me an arm and a leg to call from Vancouver

by infinitylady Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:39 pm

lonely nation:

Interesting comment I read posted on that Dave Dave video..

</SPAN>
Quote:
I called yesterday morning at Forest Lawn. I said call from a Michael Jackson fan club in Spain and we want to send a bouquet of flowers to the tomb.lady who answered said it was not Michael Jackson's tomb there.

Is there anyway someone on this forum could do the same?? To double check?

What?!!

by lonelynation Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:46 pm

Ya it's on the page if you don't believe me!
SOMEONE NEEDS TO CALL NOW!

by lonelynation Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:13 pm

well, one, she could be told to say that so the company is not in any danger regarding fans or two, it could be true. i hope its number two.

Well there is one way to solve it... someone needs to call! PLEASE I'M BEGGING!

by giannip Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:31 pm

I can't find a "Forest Lawn" related message there. I think that nobody called there from Spain...
Could you link it here?

by flory24 Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:35 pm

I called yesterday morning at Forest Lawn. I said call from a Michael Jackson fan club in Romania and we want to send a bouquet of flowers to the tomb.lady who answered said it was not Michael Jackson's tomb there.

That is what i do....not spain....is romania....and I made the call on 3th november
here is the link were i post this before https://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-burial-the-body-forrest-lawn-f46/family-not-visiting-forest-lawn-resting-place-t3196.htm?highlight=forest+lawn

by GirlSaturday Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:36 pm

If the number is provided, then the phone call can be made. Dave Dave Addresses The Hoax - Page 2 Icon_wink

by flory24 Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:40 pm

http://www.forestlawn.com/About-Forest-Lawn/Contact-Us.asp here is the number

Phone
1-800-204-3131

International
1-323-254-3131

Email
info@forestlawn.com

Mail
Forest Lawn Memorial-Parks & Mortuaries
1712 South Glendale Avenue
Glendale, CA 91205
Attn: Information Office

by lonelynation Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:41 pm

1712 S Glendale Ave
Glendale, CA 91205, United States
(800) 204-3131

by giannip Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:41 pm

Hmm.. i can't see this post on DaveDave's Myspace.
If it's not DD maybe we can't talk about this somewhere else or it could be misleading...

by GirlSaturday Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:51 pm

"Hello, I am interested in sending flowers during the holidays to Mr. Michael Jackson's tomb"

There was neither a denial or confirmation that his tomb is there.
The lady that answered the phone transferred me to the florist shop. I repeated my script and she responded the same way. Technically no unusual response when I said the name "Mr. Michael Jackson". The only difference is that she said that the flowers could be ordered from their shop and they would see to it that the flowers are delivered to the private tomb.

by lonelynation Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:03 pm

Hmmm, so what do you think that means...
They aren't saying it's not their because then it would prove something is up?
Or it's their and they just put you through to the florist

by Stephanie Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:16 pm

I for one don't like this. They are not denying him to be there... I kinda hoped they would Sad

by lonelynation Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:20 pm

I for one don't like this. They are not denying him to be there... I kinda hoped they would

But think about it..
if people were calling, and they said "no he's not"
it would be a media circus and this way by neither necessarily confirming or denying, it's left up in the air - maybe that says something in itself

by lonelynation Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:25 pm

I'll call and record what is said..
is there anything you guys want to make sure I say?
to make sure we can somehow get our own clear answer

by icy55 Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:37 pm

hi guys! I was doing some research on what Dave dave meant by "follow the yellow brick road".

The yellow brick road is actually a part in Wizard of Oz, "it is the path that Dorothy is instructed to follow from Munchkin Country to the Emerald City in order to seek the aid of the Wizard of Oz."
Following any stretch of the yellow brick road is a hazardous journey,
as there are many obstacles as well as hostile creatures such as Kalidahs roaming its lengths.

Apparently! In 1973, Michael Jackson (during his motown years) also starred in a film called The Wiz as the scarecrow. So I think there might be a coincidence here!

Plot of The Wiz: Dorothy is happy also, but at the same time she is scared, she wants to
go home. With advice from the Munchkins and Miss One, they tell Dorothy
to go visit The Wiz. (He's The Wiz!) The Wiz will help her with all her problems. Miss One says that the only way she will meet The Wiz is if she follows the Yellow Brick Road. Dorothy starts to look for the Yellow Brick Road and on the way, she sees a Scarecrow, who gets tormented by a group of Crows (You Can't Win).
Dorothy scares off the Crows and saves the Scarecrow. In return the
Scarecrow goes with Dorothy on her trek to see The Wiz for a brain.
They both try to find the Yellow Brick Road and they do! (Ease On Down the Road). Soon they meet the Tin Man and The Lion
and they all meet the Wiz. Soon they realize that they don't need The
Wiz's (who happens to be fake) magic. Because everything they need was
in them all along. (If You Beleive)

The Wiz: Act 1
Ease on Down the Road – Dorothy, Scarecrow and Yellow Brick Road (clue?)

My interpretation is that the yellow brick road is very significant to MJ. It depicts the terrible and painful journey he had to go through, all the obstacles! But now, he is now seeking for aid. He MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT be on drugs, but he is now seeking for help and thus the death hoax. This is what I see in what dave dave typed!

References:
http://oz.wikia.com/wiki/Michael_Jackson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wiz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_brick_road
http://oz.wikia.com/wiki/Yellow_Brick_Road

by lonelynation Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:40 pm

Ya I posted lyrics to the song Ease On Down The Road, when they find the yellow brick road. 2 lines stood out to me

Pick your left foot up, when your right foots down
Come on lets keep moving and don't you lose the ground
You just keep on Keepin' on the road that you choose
Don't you give up walking cause you gave up shoes

Ease on down, Ease on down the road (come on)
Ease on down, Ease on down the road
Don't you carry nothing that might be a load
Come on
Ease on down, Ease on down, down the road

Cause there may be times when you think you lost your mind
And the steps you're taking leave you three four steps behind
But the road you're walking might be long sometimes
You just keep on stepping and you'll be just fine (yeah)

Ease on down, Ease on down the road (ease on down)
Ease on down, Ease on down the road (ease on down)
Don't you carry nothing that might be a load
Come on
Ease on down, Ease on down, down the....

For there may be times, when you wish you wasn't born
And you wake one morning just to find your courage gone
but you know that feeling only last a little while
you just stick with us we'll show you how to smile (yeah)

by icy55 Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:47 pm

I'm just wondering whether "follow the yellow brick road" might be for dave dave himself, he is actually just encouraging himself? because he had been though tough time too.

by MJhunny Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:07 pm

maybe DD is referring to check out Diana Ross cause if anyone gets a trophy for staying silent it will be her Dave Dave Addresses The Hoax - Page 2 Lol

by lonelynation Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:25 pm

I'm just wondering whether "follow the yellow brick road" might be for dave dave himself, he is actually just encouraging himself? because he had been though tough time too.

That's definitely plausible..
I just know personally whenever I update my facebook status or my personal status on msn, I never write anything to remind myself of something, I always write it for other people to read about me..

What I'm trying to say is that if I wrote what Dave Dave did, it would be with the intention of someone to read it - not to reflect on myself. Which is why I think he's telling us something in that..

by 4KB Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:31 pm

I saw this the other day and I felt sick.....

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=38746353

I hate to post this ... but feel that I should.

by mjssoulmate Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:53 pm

ydnask1 wrote:

I have never heard that version. He always said pain.

We all said the same thing. However, recently there was a video posted, in which Michael did say painS with an S. that was the first time I had heard him say that.

by illusionist Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:26 pm

4KB wrote:I saw this the other day and I felt sick.....

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=38746353

I hate to post this ... but feel that I should.

Man. Find A Grave was sure quick to add him Dave Dave Addresses The Hoax - Page 2 Icon_lol

Maintained by: Find A Grave
Record added: Jun 25, 2009
Find A Grave Memorial# 38746353

by 4evermichael71 Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:26 am

I know this is morbid, but I'm a contributor on findagrave.com I didn't do the Michael obit, but when I went to the site, there were already 3 up. It often happens with multiple contributors. The owners usually delete the ones with the least info or if it's the same info..etc.
I've been on there a few years now and it is an interesting site, just not official...mainly for fans to go leave virtual flowers and messages.

by maya Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:09 am

I just find this site for explanation of yellow brick road.
WIZARD OF OZ and the ILLUMINATI MIND CONTROL

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